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@WinEunuuchs2Unix well, links in the first place probably could be considered spam. But if someone mentions that they watch porn - it's fine. It's not our job to judge or criticize person for their preferences or habits. As long as it's about Ubuntu , it's perfectly fine here
@Serg That's not necessarily true if it was about "How do I make a pipe-bomb software isn't working properly in Ubuntu 16.04" wouldn't be valid.
In life there are limits on everything.
@Hizqeel ah, sorry, was uploading food....
Damn now I'm getting hungry :(
@WinEunuuchs2Unix That's vastly different from a question "I want to watch porn but my flashplayer not working".
@Serg Yeah ok... you win AGAIN! :p
Back to original question, flagging it as spam was indeed better than flagging it as rude/abusive.
But smoke-detector may have been off-base pointing out it was flaggable...
18:07
@WinEunuuchs2Unix Smokey only reports things it thinks are spam based on some common patterns. It's up to humans to decide whether it is or not.
It's not intended to be a 100% accurate "this is spam" indicator.
@ArtOfCode I understand... I as the human screwed up :(
Oh well being overly-protective of children as a human failing isn't as bad as some other human failings I guess :)
@ArtOfCode hey, how's it going ? That mod diamond still shining ?
@Serg polish polish
omg, so much sparkle :p
hands shoe polish bottle to @ArtOfCode
18:15
shoe polish? I'm trying to make it shine blue, not black :P
Oh.
gets shoe bottle and puts it away
In other interesting news, Smokey's autoflagging has cast 2000+ flags, of which only one was a false alarm.
Which was the false alarm?
Awesome.
@ArtOfCode Well that's a pretty good ratio and a great success ! Congrats ! :) Hi ! :)
@MarkYisri hahaha Hi Mark ! :)
18:19
Hmmm, I wonder which of my old questions I should rework. I've plenty of old bash scripts, maybe I could port them to python, but . . . struggling to decide which
@WinEunuuchs2Unix Um. Gimme a moment to find it
@Serg I have a great python app indicator idea for you but I have to run now and I'll float it by you later today to see if you are interested :)
@WinEunuuchs2Unix this post
@WinEunuuchs2Unix I'm always interested in indicators ;)
Ty Art, I know Serg... See you all later :)
18:30
@WinEunuuchs2Unix see you ... :)
@WinEunuuchs2Unix bye
That file is not going to be standard to all systems. Also, what version of Ubuntu are you running? Please also edit in your existing file. Thanks. — Seth ♦ 19 secs ago
3,2,1 to OP reply with 1 answer to both my questions, and in a comment.
I love how the raspberry pi 2 can run ubuntu but people close vote it anyway without evidence.
@Seth Weelll, I did think of that fact after I vtc'd, but didn't have a chance to go back and clarify before you made this comment. ;)
19:27
@Seth @chaskes OP is back with another one, which looks essentially the same: askubuntu.com/q/882362/295286
19:39
gparted works on wayland now
hello guys
lucio!
Eric :)
what exciting project do you have going?
19:48
oh well,
it is yet another angular project
but this time it includes a ticket to Europe!
whoa. that's the right angle for angular.
lol
how are you doing my friend?
not bad. nothing special happening
and what are your projects nowadays?
re-learning java for work (which I haven't used since 1.4) and looking at what frameworks I should learn like dj3 and angular
19:53
wow that must be exciting!
it's a Lucio! hi!
@chaskes current frameworks in the web are components oriented, even though I use angular 1 daily I wouldn't recommend it to start with since it would become obsolete for new projects.
Hey Seth, how is that going?
not that great, but I'm hanging in there :)
Hopefully you're doing better.
@Lucio Ok good advice. Where to start then?
@Seth sorry to hear that pal, things will go better don't worry
19:56
@Lucio thanks! I'm really impatient though :P
can't complain, I am happy at this start of year but there are always high and lows
@Seth If you need to talk about your problems, I am here. =)
@chaskes React is dead simple to get started with and there is deeper logic behind it.
Ok, thanks
Has anyone tried out ReactOS?
19:58
does that wiki bot still exist?
no, I haven't
@chaskes no worries
BTW, how is the weather over there?
I am waiting to see if Ubuntu will have an official Cinnamon derivative.
I tried out the Budgie desktop recently, and it was terrible. Extremely buggy.
I will be just a week in england, otherwise would have been great meeting you over there Eric.
@JasperLoy what OS do you use daily?
@Lucio I now use Windows 10.
It's pretty stable and you almost forget how awful was window previous.. that's good
It must be my cheap hardware then. It crashed three times in the last three months.
20:03
hum yea, is it a laptop?
It's a Lenovo Ideapad, extremely cheap, which is why I bought it.
well, sorry to hear your bad luck
Even worse, the optical disc drive seems to be damaged. I need to put in the disc five times sometimes for it to be readable.
just a tip, enable bootable usb before is too late
@RobotHumans any recommended place to visit on Milan?
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Q: How to shorten the Long Code output in questions and answers and display scrollbars

L. D. JamesThere are some questions and answers that have very log output that is condensed with scrollbars. Is there a formatting method to control how much is displayed between the scrolling. I believe some post appears to be easy to skip the formatted sections and view the descriptions and details of t...

20:14
@Lucio That would be great, but I'm in the US!
20:32
@cl-netbox Sometimes when I press 'shutoff' or type sudo shutdown, the computer reboots instead! Do you know why? I have 16.10
20:49
Yay, someone finally figured out the mysterious glitch that caused permission issues with QHttpEngine.
@Lucio never been to Milan. Have been to italy though
21:03
So I found the Windows batch file equivalent of "set -e":
 || exit /b
....on every single line.
It's a tough call, but I think Unix wins this one :P
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Interestingly, I found out that batch files don't terminate on error when test cases in my unit tests were mysteriously failing yet the build was passing.
So two bugs for the price of one: figuring out why the test failed and then figuring out why the build still passed.
might be easier to troubleshoot the build passing first
21:23
I think I overcomplicate things quite often. I just found a bug in my files-indicator, was thinking about it for 30 minutes, before realizing that I can simply make a simple one-line if statement to fix it.
What happened with this question?
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Q: Compass compatibility: Can I use my US compass in Australia?

Christian DeckertBackground I bought my compass in the US last year. Next week I'm going to travel to Australia. Question Is my US-compass compatible with Australia? or do I need a special compass? Do I need an adapter?

The question, some of the answers, and some comments are all by deleted users.
And it was asked a few hours ago...
Oh /facepalm.
It was migrated.
I didn't see that at first :P
21:39
questions like that are always interesting, because it gets at stuff people take for granted but never really thought about
Indeed.
I can't click on the OP's name.. did they ban him?
oh, it was migrated ;) I see..
@RobotHumans I'll close by. lol
this is not quite the same thing, but it is related in that there is an unexpected twist or connection between different things... I found out a while ago that GPS is used by the New York Stock Exchange for time adjustments
so if GPS were to go down, it could mess with the stock markets
@chaskes cool! Did you move over there or am I having a bad memory? :P
21:49
@Lucio Bad memory ;) I've always been in the US.
oh lol
it must be because your avatar
That's because I wish I were an Icelander.
randomly appears in a burst of darkness
How goes it.
lot of darkness here all of a sudden
this is not new when I randomly appear :P
22:28
Saw that one.
The ending is hillarious.
ALSO: I found the original bug - Qt doesn't ship with OpenSSL libs, even though it uses them at runtime, so the unit tests that used SSL were failing.
It has now been fixed.
Hey, I'm trying to cross-compile some C (from Linux to Windows, 64 bit) using Clang. Looks like Clang's not finding the header files, though. Any ideas?
Hmm... I have never tried cross-compiling with Clang, only Mingw-w64.
Clang is supposed to be natively a cross-compiler
although their page on it isn't too enlightening
Tried asking on SO, not much traffic. A similar question had been asked before but the answer was rather vague
@NathanOsman - I pointed Rogue at you. Thought you might have some idea
I'll see what I can come up with...
...since this would interest me as well.
22:35
I'm thinking I might need LLD for it to work properly
(llvm's experimental linker)
-ccc-host-triple i386-pc-win32
what headers are missing?
stdio.h
standard headers are missing?
22:36
What builds system are you using? Makefiles? CMake?
Just plain Clang
fair warning, it's on archlinux - that's why i pointed him at chat not opening a question on main - and yes
In theory, that shouldn't make a difference.
I'm not groovy with all this make stuff.
I prefer to just write a perl script that does all my stuff
22:37
Let me see if I can come up with something that works.
I was using --target x86_64-win32-
although I don't know what ABI windows uses.
and the last part of the triple is the abi
I think at least. haha
I think you can just drop the final "-" if you don't need to specify an ABI.
But let me see...
When you don't specify an ABI or specify one that doesn't exist, it defaults without any sort of message, which kinda sucks
Do you have a sysroot for Windows?
mmm... hope
nope
22:42
Aha.
So you will need to obtain or create one.
This will contain the headers and libraries needed to compile link a Windows application.
Aha, exactly what I was thinking
Although, where would I get that?
That is a good question. Let me see.
You'd think, claiming to be a cross-compiler, Clang would come with a sensible default sysroot for windows
This is one of the reasons Go has had so much success - the compiler will produce cross-platform executables out-of-the-box.
But anyway, back to Clang...
22:48
I mean, I suppose I could get the sysroot from my own windows system somehow?
well nevermind
I don't think uncompiled code would be hanging around
Still reading...
Hmm...
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A: Clang C++ Cross Compiler - Generating Windows Executable from Mac OS X

bames53Clang can in principle be used as a cross compiler: unlike most compilers clang/LLVM includes components (such as the codegen, assembler, and linker) for different platforms in the same binary. However you'll run into a number of problems trying to use it as such in a production capacity: You ...

ah "from an installation of Visual Studio"
Although I recently reloaded windows
so I'd have to go through the god-awfully long process of getting that
I feel your pain. VS is a real pain to install sometimes.
Although it got better with VS2015 since they let you pick components to install.
Oh and it looks like I do need LLD
Been having trouble compiling that
not sure what exactly
Oh right, it uses CMake
ugh. What would the target name be?
` llvm-config failed with status Permission denied`, and I'm running it as root.
Backticks don't do monospace on here? dang
they do, but they are fussy. It has to be all on one line, if you have a multiline message, all formatting is immediately killed
22:58
Site says put it in LLVM's tools directory, but I don't know where that'd be. Not in /etc/llvm
23:11
^^^ This just a .gif test... please do not readjust your TV set.
@Seth It works ^^^^ THANK YOU :)
@WinEunuuchs2Unix quite impressive
Hi @Zanna don't see you around very much.
@Serg That is the idea I had for your Python indicator... allow access to bash.
I'm posting the code to do it using Sysmonitor Indicator soon but it is text only and I thought you could allow icons via a similar utility of your own written in Python @Serg
@WinEunuuchs2Unix Icons sure can be used, but for animations, it probably would have to be an svg image of sorts, which i don't know how to make, or a batch of png images and manually switch between them
Welp, it's 4:16 PM , another day , nothing done really
Well not really . . . no homework has been done, but at least I've started picking up a new programming language
@Serg I wasn't thinking of the animation part with text-spinner... I was thinking of just being able to display in unity systemtray from Bash.
@WinEunuuchs2Unix you mean the other way around ? display bash stuff in system tray ?
23:18
@Serg YES :)... I thought I said that... that lemon slice must have spiked my second beer! I better have another beer to dilute the effect.
So uh... anyone familiar with compiling lld
It says to put it in llvm's tools directory.... does that mean I need to manually compile all of LLVM?
Because I used the package manager to get LLVM, and there is no tools directory anywhere.
So I'm assuming it's something that has to be compiled along with the rest of LLVM's stuff
I love it when a show goes in hiatus to produce more episodes, and then I forget about it, and come back with 6 extra episodes
oh lol
@WinEunuuchs2Unix hmm maybe my sleeping patterns lately or being busy with the Vegetarianism beta
forgot they left it on a cliffhanger for 6 months
I've been causing trouble while you were sleeping @WinEunuuchs2Unix XD
23:28
@Zanna Well mainly you are on-line when I'm at work I think. Don't understand that vegan thing... I had Beef & Shrimp thingy from Edo Japanese fast-food restaurant at mall today... YUM :)
@Zanna Yeah you are a Ubuntu Rebel when it comes to causing problems ! :p
@Zanna aha, I knew it was you ! ( jk )
@Zacharee1 who left what where ?
@Serg Fox left Bones on a cliffhanger (a time-sensitive one) for 6 months
they're pretending no time has passed
Hyping up the public to want to watch it
doesn't really need the hype
@Zanna I know your love for tag cleanup here is a little something to get you invigorated: and :)
I just used both of them on this Q&A: askubuntu.com/questions/882419/…
I could have only used one of the tags but I was thinking of you when I used both on purpose ;)
@Serg so I've documented the Sysmonitor Indicator which I think you could write a better equivalent of and only focus on letting people update systray from Bash but add support to display an icon: askubuntu.com/questions/882419/…
23:58
@WinEunuuchs2Unix very kind of you haha I will have a look tomorrow if my memory serves me
Sleep time zzzz
Yup it's midnight there in 1 minute :)
no sleep for you
NONE
**steals all the sleep in the planet
^--- new comic for George :D
No sleep for the wicked
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