Ask Ubuntu General Room

Bruno Pereira

00:01

We are at 77%!

Jorge Castro

\o/

Oli

@BrunoPereira iwatch

Bruno Pereira

@Oli <3

Brallan Aguilar

00:18

hi. I need help!!!

Oli

@BrallanAguilar Have you asked your problem in a question on the main site? Not trying to be rude but there are a lot more people on the site than in this chat room.

Brallan Aguilar

ok, I'll try it. Thanks!

rlemon

00:33

is anyone here good with 'fixing' up images?

rlemon.com/blog/fp-interface/themes/esh/esh/imgs/bgc.jpg the gradient is all messed up

Oli

00:45

@rlemon That can't be fixed easily unless you have the original. You either want to export that as a 24+bit PNG or a less compressed JPG

rlemon

yea i managed to fix it up a bit

Marco Ceppi

heh, jpegs

Oli

That almost looks like it's been compressed with something 8bit and then exported as JPG

four OH 4

rlemon

nvm kept it a jpg apparently.

still... is better :P

stupid templates.

i liked it but not really. so i'm ripping it apart and remaking it. :<

Bruno Pereira

gn peeps

George Edison

00:49

WebP totally blows JPG out of the water.

Marco Ceppi

PNG blows JPG out of the water

JPG is the new BMP :)

William

I come into the Ubuntu chat and wer'e talking about... JPG?

A FILE EXTENSION?

An IMAGE FORMAT?

Cool.

ANd yet - random.

And yet- whenever I come into the room all goes silent.,

Marco Ceppi

whistles

Oli

We're just wondering if we turn our backs for 10 minutes and come back whether the entire room will be filled with you talking about you and your dad's latest ventures into ASP.NET et al.

Like last night.

William

Hey, I got bored.

Oli

00:57

Well that's twice now. Started writing an answer and the question gets deleted >_<

William

And like JPG is any better.

Why don't I ever see @fossfreedom in chat?

George Edison

@MarcoCeppi: PNG is terrible at compressing pictures with a lot of detail.

PNG shines at compressing images with a lot of solid color.

William

Of all things to argue about - image formats?

George Edison

WebP tends to produce slightly better results than JPG.

@William We're not arguing. We're discussing the technical merits of image formats.

Marco Ceppi

You might not be, BUT I AM ;)

William

01:00

So, anyone here going to submit a picture for the 12.04 countdown banner?

@GeorgeEdison OK, I mistakenly took it as so. My bad.

George Edison

@MarcoCeppi You mean you think PNG is better than JPG for photos?

Time to fire up the Gimp for an example.

William

Oh, "discussing"! That is a lot better then "arguing".

rlemon

rlemon.com/blog

i like the design.

:P

George Edison

@Marco:

The JPG quality is set to 100% and I have full compression turned on for the PNG.

Identical image in both cases.

And...

There's the WebP version. Notice the difference in file size.

Here is the full version: dl.dropbox.com/u/31080052/garden.webp (Chrome only).

Not bad quality-wise eh?

William

@GeorgeEdison Yes, but who uses webp? It's a relatively new format.

George Edison

01:15

Chrome supports it out of the box.

William

And HOW DARE YOU POST A WINDOWS SCREENSHOT IN THE ASK UBUNTU CHAT?! YOU SHALL BE PUNISHED!

George Edison

...and I wrote a plugin (in C no less) that adds WebP support to the Gimp.

William

Now that I have ranted, I apologize for using all caps. I know it's rude. But, sometimes, I feel I have to shout.

George Edison

@William Does that mean the Ubuntu users can't post screenshots in a Windows discussion room?

Marco Ceppi

@William Dude, give it a break. People use Windows it's not the end of the world. We're tolerant, not jerks :)

George Edison

01:16

@MarcoCeppi Any more invites today?

Marco Ceppi

5 more going out in about an hour

William

That, right there, my dear penguin, was sarcasm.

I, personally, can't get WIndows 8 to work on virtualbox for the life of me.

@MarcoCeppi I was trying to be sarcastic, I apologize for any confusion I may have caused. That's the problem with internet chat, you can't see people's expressions as the post stuff or the tone of voice in which they are saying it in.

BTW, what invites?

Goes over possible conspiracy theories

29

A: How can I reduce or increase the number of workspaces in Unity?

The options for the number of workspaces can be found in compizconfig-settings-manager under General Options. Do not set horizontal workspaces below 2 or the workspace switcher button won't work.

@JorgeCastro Don't look now... it's CCSM!

So, what was the final decision on that anyway?

Is it going to stay or go in the 12.04 repos?

Doh. I'm alone again.

/me gets the feeling that he is not wanted here

Jorge Castro

01:31

@William Three people submitted fixes to make it suck less

which is awesome

William

That's good.

@GeorgeEdison Stack Alert has died. An error has occured. Details:.

George Edison

@William It only works if your CPU has hardware virtualization.

@William Just click OK and it should be fine.

Okay... what did I do wrong... I am trying to install Gnome 3 on Oneiric and I'm getting a configuration page for GDM...

rlemon

not enough unicorns.

George Edison

I hope I installed the right package...

...we'll find out in a minute.

rlemon

sudo apt-get install -u nicorns

George Edison

01:42

@rlemon Doesn't that conflict with the kitten package?

Allan

@rlemon sudo apt-get install -u nicorns -a

all the unicorns

George Edison

Okay - why is Evolution getting installed???

rlemon

@GeorgeEdison no the kitten package ties into libpony

jrg

Ok, that wasn't as lengthy and painful as I expected.

George Edison

@jrg Do you remember the name of the package that installs the Gnome 3 Desktop?

I'm not sure I've got the right thing installing...

jrg

01:47

@GeorgeEdison You mean the gnome shell? gnome-shell

George Edison

Yup - I'm installing the wrong package.

@jrg Thank you.

jrg

No problem. :

George Edison

Lol... Unpacking libclutter-1.0-0

libclutter is the last thing I need on this VM :P

@jrg Oh by the way - StackApplet 1.6 is built for Precise now.

jrg

@GeorgeEdison Sweet, I'll get on that ASAP

Dangit, I go on a forced 2 day vacation, come back and i've got 30 spam, just under 200 unread emails that I need to reply to, and 184 packages to update on my precise install. this next few hours are going to be fun.

3

Need to get 165 MB of archives.
After this operation, 1,686 kB disk space will be freed.

Like that's going to really help much... :D

George Edison

@jrg Hey, I'm installing nearly 200MB just to get Gnome 3 going here :)

jrg

01:54

@MarcoCeppi DUDE HIGH RES BOOTSPLASH!!! JUST WHAT I ALWAYS WANTED!!

@GeorgeEdison 200MB? This a precise install or an oneiric install?

George Edison

@jrg Oneiric... but over a 1Mbps connection...

jrg

I only ever do 50MB for gnome-shell and its friends....

George Edison

Yeah, I accidentally installed the package gnome :P

jrg

oh, thats right - you didn't do the desktop install, did you?

George Edison

So now Evolution is installing...

@jrg Yes and no.

I used the Mini CD ISO to get the basics installed.

Then I hand-picked the packages I needed to form a functional desktop.

jrg

01:56

Gotcha.

George Edison

I learned a lesson - don't do that.

Even though the packages may be in a consistent state, you end up with this: askubuntu.com/questions/72023/…

...and other strange things.

jrg

Tossed my hat in the ring for that logo design thing - meta.askubuntu.com/questions/2624/… :P

I hope it meets the trademark restrictions. :P

George Edison

It's cool.

Why??? Why are you installing gnuchess, Ubuntu???

jrg

@GeorgeEdison heh, you screwed up your package manager, big time.

George Edison

All I wanted was Gnome 3. Sigh.

George Edison

02:26

Inkscape???

Jorge Castro

hey so what's the problem

George Edison

I installed the wrong package :P

I wanted the Gnome 3 desktop and so I ran:

sudo apt-get install gnome

Silly mistake, huh?

Since this is a VM, it's taking forever to install all of the packages.

Roland Taylor

02:46

Hi everyone

George Edison

@RolandTaylor Hi.

What's up?

Roland Taylor

Nothing much

Just doing some blending and about to do some updating :)

Questions Feed

Can you answer this? Installer Reboots at "Detecting hardware" (disks and other hardware) on all ... http://askubuntu.com/questions/103689/installer-reboots-at-detecting-hardware-disks-and-other-hardware-on-all-rece #installation

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on February 23, 2012 at 2:38 AM

George Edison

@RolandTaylor Your post sparked quite a debate over on G+ :)

Anyway - I gotta run now. I'll try and catch you later.

Roland Taylor

@GeorgeEdison cool :D

@GeorgeEdison yeah I tend to get a lot of those debates :(

It's good and bad, because while some people may get questions answered and the record set straight, the open fighting goes no where in the end :(

One Zero

04:42

@rlemon thanks , i have updated

@ajmitch yes i m planning ..

Questions Feed

06:00

How to change the ubuntu code http://askubuntu.com/questions/106818/how-to-change-the-ubuntu-code #source

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on February 23, 2012 at 5:38 AM

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

07:36

0

Q: Is there a way to have a web browser while no KDE or GNOME is installed?

I'm running an ubuntu machine (server actually) that does not have any user interface installed, only a command line. I was wondering if it'd be possible to have a web browser, say Google Chrome, run on this machine without having to insall the whole GNOME or KDE environment. Can this be done?...

Questions Feed

08:43

Can you answer this? Network Computers Missing Ubuntu 11.10 http://askubuntu.com/questions/102384/network-computers-missing-ubuntu-11-10 #networking

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on February 23, 2012 at 8:38 AM

Octavian Damiean

@BrunoPereira LOL! Just LOL! :D

jokerdino

Link?

Octavian Damiean

I couldn't stop laughing for at least five minutes. :D

In a second.

Rock

Why? What happened/

Octavian Damiean

You know that he has sent me a hard drive right?

jokerdino

08:46

Yeah.

Rock

yeah, who send hard drive ?

Octavian Damiean

It just arrived and I've unpacked it.

jokerdino

Oh cool.

Octavian Damiean

4

phahaha ^^

jokerdino

LOL :D

Octavian Damiean

08:48

Oh both sides!

jokerdino

heh

Rock

Lol.

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

09:25

0

Q: PXE boot with NFS: /sbin/init: No such file or directory

I'm trying to set up PXE boot with an ubuntu client. Created the dhcp-boot on my tomato router Added a tftp daemon on my FreeNas box Added a NFS mount on my FreeNas box Debootstrapped Ubuntu 11.10 to the NFS mount I've generated the vmlinuz and initrd from the debootstrap image and copied them...

ubuntu nfs pxe netboot

fossfreedom

@William ... maybe our paths dont cross...are we in different timezones...? :)

fossfreedom

10:02

@jokerdino - some excellent cleanup spots you have found... keep up the good work! cheers

jokerdino

Thanks sir. :)

Amith KK

11:01

3

A: Google+ Fan Page Logo Competition

512 by 512 without transparency,with ring,coloured background, PNG 200 by 200 without transparency,with ring,coloured background, PNG 48 by 48 without transparency,with ring,coloured background, PNG I will add other versions later. Transparents 512 by 512 with transparency,with rin...

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Hello all

htorque

11:16

i want such a hard disk too!

where do questions about linux tools go? unix.SE?

Amith KK

@htorque gnu?

htorque

whut?

Amith KK

@htorque Is it a gnu tool?

htorque

no, it's dot

or better: a graph in dot format and i want some graph info from that file

Amith KK

11:31

U&L

Oli

@htorque We take any Linux question as long as it's not irrelevant to Ubuntu. Ie if you want to ask about a random application, that's fine... If you want to ask about a random application on Fedora or specifically across multiple distributions, U&L might be a better bet. If you're asking something over multiple platforms (outside just Linux distros) SuperUser (desktop) or ServerFault (server) are better bets.

htorque

yeah, i'll probably go to unix.SE

Amith KK

Questions Feed

11:53

Bounty offered: How to go about trying to access files stored on mobile phone (via USB)? http://askubuntu.com/questions/43701/how-to-go-about-trying-to-access-files-stored-on-mobile-phone-via-usb #usb

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on February 23, 2012 at 11:38 AM

Bruno Pereira

12:12

@OctavianDamiean glad you liked it ;)

htorque

12:24

dude, i'm blind... tried to merge graphs using a tool for disjoint graphs... GNAAA

Amith KK

12:55

BBL

Alvar

@BrunoPereira How do I install Ubuntu? is this an OK question to ask? (I intend to answer it myself...

Moderator?

@jrg I am about to do something you used to do :P

Octavian Damiean

13:17

@Alvar Are you sure we don't have that question already?

Caesium

13:31

Am I out of order here, or is this guy getting unecessarily rude when I try to suggest his question could be terser? askubuntu.com/questions/106796/…

Alvar

@OctavianDamiean can't find it

jokerdino

4

Q: How to install Ubuntu?

I would like to know a full how-to

10.10 installation

Alvar

@jokerdino I'll answer that one then..

jokerdino

Good luck.

Add a lot of screenshots.

Alvar

@jokerdino I will, and a lot of arrows!

Oli

13:38

@Caesium I'm nuking both of your comments (there's no flag or penalty) because it's got a bit unpleasant. You do have a valid point - it's a lot of text to describe something that isn't that complicated. I'll add a summary.

Caesium

Yeah I think that sounds fair

My last comment was entirely unnecessary but he was starting to wind me up

jokerdino

If anyone wants to try an awesome to-do app, try taskwarrior. (sudo apt-get install task)

Jorge Castro

is it me or does it feel like we're as busy as we've been in a long time?

man we're going to get wrecked on release, heh

jokerdino

@Caesium I feel TLDR comments a bit on the rude side.

@JorgeCastro I promise to show up on release day.

Jorge Castro

heh

I feel all comments are on the worthless side

>_>

<_<

Octavian Damiean

13:47

Beta 1 in a week. \o/

jrg

@JorgeCastro Except on meta.

Jorge Castro

@BrunoPereira woo 77%!

@jrg heh yea

jrg

@Alvar I used to do a lot of things... which one is this?

jokerdino

@Jrg I got a number of questions unclosed. Would you like to take a look?

jrg

@jokerdino Toss 'em in regulators.

I'll be right over. :)

Alvar

13:51

@jrg I planned to ask a question and then answer it myself, but then it was already asked..

jrg

@Alvar ah, i never stopped doing that. :P

Alvar

haha :P

it was already asked :(

Jorge Castro

@jrg I'm going to combine our answers on the GLobal Jam thread.

@OctavianDamiean want to do the same thing for your post?

jrg

Cool, go for it.

Jorge Castro

I'd like to have one "todo" list for teams that want to get started on AU.

Alvar

13:56

pichars.org/XfILb

Octavian Damiean

@JorgeCastro Huh?

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

0

Q: How to install Ubuntu on vnware?

I have to install ubantu on my windows machine. i have installed vmware and trying to install ubantu on it. I am facing trouble to install ubantu on it.

ubuntu vmware

Octavian Damiean

It is my tasks section of the answer.

Tasks
Go through an ambiguous tag and replace the ambiguous tag with a more descriptive tag which will be provided.
Go through the higher voted and higher viewed questions and try to gather a list of canonical questions.

Jorge Castro

Oh ok, so I can just steal those, put them in jrg's answer?

I guess you should CW your answer @jrg

jrg

CW'ing now.

jokerdino

14:00

Properly tag questions with 1k+ views.

Octavian Damiean

@JorgeCastro I can do that. Sure. :)

Jorge Castro

I just need to have the TODOs to Mike today so he can put them on the global jam page

Oli

@Caesium is that better? Not sure I've ever done such a ruthless edit :)

Jorge Castro

It's going to be like "Want to contribute on ask ubuntu! Check out these easy beginner tasks!"

Octavian Damiean

@jokerdino I would say >= 5000 views.

jokerdino

14:03

I was just proposing, you know?

Caesium

@Oli, that's MUCH better imo :)

jokerdino

BB after supper.

Octavian Damiean

We have 4093 questions with >= 1000 views and 376 questions with >= 5000 views.

Oli

@Caesium And yeah - I know how that feels. It's especially tough as a moderator because we can just go "HAHA YOU'VE CROSSED ME FOR THE LAST TIME PERMABAN IN YOUR FACE!!!" but it's frowned upon...

Caesium

@Oli, I started with the best of intentions :/

anyway sorted now, it was just getting a bit out of control, thanks :)

Octavian Damiean

14:05

@JorgeCastro Added them. Want me to delete my answer?

Jorge Castro

sure

I'll work on making it better over the course of the day

Octavian Damiean

Done.

Caesium

@Oli, also while I have the rep to edit his question I didn't really dare, I can only guess what his reactions to that would have been

jrg

@Caesium relax, you did the right thing from what I can see.

Oli

@Caesium Yeah I was initially going to suggest that but I think it probably would have just started an edit war. You did the right thing bringing it up.

jrg

14:07

Because you went and brought it up. :)

Octavian Damiean

Permabans are not as fun as hellbans. :D

Roland Taylor

14:45

1 hour ago, by Jorge Castro

I feel all comments are on the worthless side

I used to leave comments, but then I took an arrow to the knee.

jokerdino

@RolandTaylor I used to take an arrow to the knee, but then I took an arrow to the knee.

jrg

@RolandTaylor waves

Octavian Damiean

Ok, what's about this comment thing?

Roland Taylor

@jrg hey

jrg

@OctavianDamiean Jorge said all comments are worthless, and hes right.

Octavian Damiean

14:54

Ubuntu frisbee accessory idea

It would be nice to have an Ubuntu frisbee. Could be used in Ubuntu face-to-face events in summer. Paul Sladen asked me on IRC how much I would pay for such a frisbee. I would say something between 15 to 25 US Dollars.

ubuntu-branding

Undecided / New

3

YAY :D

jrg

Want. :D

jokerdino

@OctavianDamiean Just a random fact. Frisbee is a brand name. The object you are referring to is flying disc.

jrg

@jokerdino ignore the facts, JUST GIMME A FLYING UBUNTU SAUCER MAN!!! ;D

Octavian Damiean

Oh, didn't know that. :/

Mark yourself affected if you want it! :D

rlemon

@GeorgeEdison you around boss?

jokerdino

14:57

@jrg Flying saucer. :D

rlemon

I want an Ubuntu Hacky Sack

That way I can Kick It with my Favorite Distro!

Octavian Damiean

That is a nice idea!

jrg

drools at the thought of all the ubuntu merchandise I still need to buy my natty narwhal shirt before they are all gone....

Jorge Castro

cloud.ubuntu.com/2012/02/…

Questions Feed

Can you answer this? Ubuntu Randomly Stopped Booting http://askubuntu.com/questions/102343/ubuntu-randomly-stopped-booting #boot

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on February 23, 2012 at 2:38 PM

Roland Taylor

15:04

@jrg sorry that's patented

jokerdino

Flying disc

A flying disc is a disc-shaped glider that is generally plastic and roughly in diameter, with a lip. The shape of the disc, an airfoil in cross-section, allows it to fly by generating lift as it moves through the air while rotating. The term frisbee, often used uncapitalized to generically describe all flying discs, has been a registered trademark of the Wham-O toy company. Though such use is not encouraged by the company, the common use of the name as a generic term has put the trademark in jeopardy. Flying discs are thrown and caught for free-form recreation and as part of many dif...

Caesium

@QuestionsFeed voting to close, asker has abandoned it

William

@fossfreedom Yep, very different time zones. You go online exactly when I go to bed on a late night.

jrg

@Caesium its not abandoned, a question isn't abandoned until its been 3+ months.

William

OMG! Frissbee!

Caesium

15:07

@jrg, sure, but he says so, see "edit 3"

he gave up and reinstalled so we'll never know the cause

William

I come in at the randomest moments.

rlemon

quick everyone leave

William

Which question are you taling about now?

jrg

Oh, true.

William

@rlemon lol

rlemon

15:08

:P

William

Whenever I talk the room goes silent within 5 minutes.

WHOA! 15 to 25 US DOLLARS!

U R RICH!

(now that's coming from a kid, but still...)

See? Silience!

And I can't even spell silence right!

jrg

SILENCE.

William

OR I KILL YOU.

Octavian Damiean

Without the OR.

William

google.com/…

jrg

15:10

its "KEILL", no "KILL"

William

I KEILL YOU.

jrg

and no OR

William

There. Got me meme straight.

jrg

@William There we go.... now you've got that meme down pat.

Octavian Damiean

heh

William

15:11

I feel like a meme pro.

@jokerdino I would really like an Ubuntu hacky sack.

/me is on a mac

Roland Taylor

Turn off the game console...

TURN OFF THE GAME CONSOLE NOW!

William

I hate how the /me command doesnt work in here.

TURN OF!

Octavian Damiean

It does with a userscript.

William

OK.

Theres a userscript for anything and everything.

Roland Taylor

Yeah I remember the script but I don't have it anymore for some reason.

Octavian Damiean

15:12

Yup.

Because they are awesome.

William

/me is disappointed in the number of votes he got for his logo.

jrg

I wish I could get stuff from the canonical store from amazon.com.... :\

William

/me probably spent the most total time. I created logo from scratch.

Octavian Damiean

I did the same thing.

William

I am now going to convert my logo into an Ubuntu 12.04 countdown banner.

Octavian Damiean

15:13

I have recreated it from scratch. ;)

William

@OctavianDamiean, Sure, but I have multicolor dots!

jrg

Mine is beast, I broke out the crayon box. ;)

Roland Taylor

pff

mine has a cloaking device

Octavian Damiean

@William Right, too much detail. ;)

Roland Taylor

@nitstorm :D

jokerdino

15:18

me and my roommates are fighting against a cockroach here :D

nitstorm

@jokerdino :D sanniyatha adichi nasukungada :D

Octavian Damiean

Is the cockroach winning?

jokerdino

Killed it! Woohoo

http://askubuntu.com/questions/67543/missing-launcher-top-panel-without-icons-an-ati-driver-problem
http://askubuntu.com/questions/78770/no-empathy-notifications-with-gnome-shell-3-2
http://askubuntu.com/questions/67410/problem-upgrading-11-04-to-11-10

Questions to close.

nitstorm

15:40

@jokerdino YAY! :D

@jokerdino Voted :D

Check out the Ubuntu Regulators room as well, linked a question there to close as well

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Q: How to make a disk image and restore from it later?

I'm a new Linux user. I've reinstalled my Wubi from scratch at least ten times the last few weeks because while getting the system up and running (drivers, resolution, etc.) I've broken something (X, grub, unknowns) and I can't get it back to work. Especially for a newbie like me, it's easier (an...

partitioning backup image disk

Octavian Damiean

I should totally go install that hard drive I got ...

nitstorm

does a Mac OS have a /etc/passwd file?

I am guessing it does, just want to make sure

Octavian Damiean

Absolutely no idea.

rlemon

Real programmers don't comment their code. If it was hard to write, it should be hard to understand.

Octavian Damiean

lol

nitstorm

15:48

@rlemon :P

Octavian Damiean

Right, even for themselves.

rlemon

ProTip: Weeks of programming can save you hours of planning!

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Amith KK

Heya Guys :D

nitstorm

@AmithKK Heya Amith :D

Roland Taylor

@AmithKK hi

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