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Serg

17:05

yeah, my home router is the same, b and g. Netopia 3000

i just was wondering if i should take it and play around , maybe install dd-wrt

chili555

I could have $3 worth of fun with it!

Anwar

close as too broad askubuntu.com/q/167256/61218

and hi....

Zacharee1

can we stop closing really old questions unless they're unanswered?

Anwar

that one is outside of the project and I think it is really too broad. And it attracted another answer

Zacharee1

@Anwar ahh

the newer answer part is a validation

someone's been seeking old questions out lately to close as too broad or unclear

Anwar

17:12

We had an agreement of closing IDE suggestions to that one fat question which was also closed as Too-Broad...ironically :)

Zacharee1

@Anwar just don't seek them out

Anwar

@Zacharee1 It came in my view...

Zacharee1

@Anwar it's all good then

Serg

Epson x330 or Canon mg2522 ?

or canon mg3022 ?

Anwar

How were you doing?...

Videonauth

17:14

@Serg check the sited where you can get replacement ink

take the one where you get cheaper replacement ink

Serg

epson has cheaper black and white ink, 13$

Zacharee1

ehh, just buy blood; it's cheaper than ink

4

Serg

@Zacharee1 i have some saved after satanic sacrifices

Zacharee1

go R&W

none of this B&W crap

Serg

epson color ink cartridges are separate though, 3 cartridges

and more expensive

Anwar

17:18

@Zacharee1 you don't even have to buy it...

Serg

Canon is one piece and tiny bit cheaper

Zacharee1

@Anwar lol

@Serg Canon's printers aren't great though

I got a $40 one. It may have been counterfeit (not sure), but it was broken OOTB

wouldn't print anything correctly; streaks through everything

Serg

If my scanner wasn't so old and crappy, i wouldn't buy one. Besides it works good enough for me.

plus i need to save money . . .

gaaaaa, I dunno what to do

Zacharee1

why not both?

:p

Serg

@Zacharee1 you get a printer and you get a printer , everyone gets a printer !

Zacharee1

17:26

ohai Oprah

Serg

ok, well . . . I need to make up my mind somehow, so . . .

Zacharee1

17:39

christ askubuntu.com/questions/852621/…

Kaz Wolfe

so... um... "would you like to update? [Y/y]"

Zacharee1

@KazWolfe it's probably another Suprfish :p

Kaz Wolfe

probably.

(and now that the warranty on this thing is dead, it starts to break. stupid lenovo)

Zacharee1

@KazWolfe sounds like a certain fruit corp

Kaz Wolfe

(who rejected my job app)

Zacharee1

17:49

me

Serg

I think im gonna skip buying new scanner. It works ok, and on high res its perfectly acceptable. ill just write a script to scale down my scans to necessary size

Or should i get one after all ?

Zacharee1

lol

Serg

18:07

Im bad at shopping

Mark Yisri

18:36

could I have some reopen votes please?

-4

Q: Implementing a simple filesystem in C

I want to implement a simple filesystem in pure C (no FUSE, or anything). How do I do this? It needs directories, and files that can grow. Specs of embedded system I want to use it on: 128KB of flash 64KB of RAM RTOS available for threading, queues, and fixed-size memory allocation No mall...

c filesystems

Kaz Wolfe

omfg.

i just found some access tokens for a project from 3 years ago for someone else.

they're still valid ;-;

i can literally permanently destroy a network because some idiot forgot to rotate access keys.

Byte Commander

Do it. Most effective way to teach them.

(it will also teach you what happens to evil hackers though...)

Kaz Wolfe

that's why i'm not going to do it

Byte Commander

Then write them a mail describing what you would do.

Kaz Wolfe

(also, it's not "hacking". i legally bought the code from a project three years ago, and they included the keys because they're dumb)

Anwar

18:44

anyone uses powerline here?

lots of completion not working after installing that ..

Byte Commander

I have a Powerline adapter (to use AC power wires for networking), but it sounds like that is not what you mean...

Zanna

@MarkYisri hmm I wonder if anyone here has >3k on SO

Anwar

@ByteCommander No.

Byte Commander

@Zanna around 2.6k only...

Anwar

this instead github.com/powerline/powerline

Byte Commander

18:48

Nope, never seen that before.

Nathan Osman

Someone might want to tell the VirtualBox folks that 8 GB is no longer a large enough default size for a disk drive that will hold an Ubuntu install...

Byte Commander

Always assume that "if (someone != you)", it will never happen...

Nathan Osman

Well, I don't have time right now.

Anwar

switched back to .bash_it...curses powerline

Kaz Wolfe

@NathanOsman Bug assigned to: KazWolfe

It'll be done in 15-900 years.

Or more accurately, it'll be the day Oli and Rinzwind both accrue enough downvotes to reset themselves to 1 rep each.

Zanna

18:57

@ByteCommander hey that's impressive :)

Nathan Osman

TIME TO DOWNVOTE OLI.

(Just kidding.)

Nathan Osman

19:29

Let's give Unity 8 a shot...

Hmmm.

LightDM just locks up.

RPi Awesomeness

\o/

:P

Serg

<.<

Nathan Osman

@RPiAwesomeness What are we celebrating?

RPi Awesomeness

@NathanOsman I was sarcastically celebrating Unity 8 being frozen

Zanna

@Zacharee1 it's a lot cheaper - printer ink is the most expensive liquid, even more costly than the most outrageously priced champagne

Nathan Osman

19:36

@RPiAwesomeness One commenter expressed frustration over the way Unity hides information from users... and then proceeded to praise Gnome 3!

The humanity!

RPi Awesomeness

>.>

Gracious me, what a word

querulous

Meaning: Given to complaining; peevish.

#YayLiteratureAssignments

Serg

@NathanOsman wat ?

Nathan Osman

Lol.

Zanna

@RPiAwesomeness that's in SAT HotWords

RPi Awesomeness

@Zanna \o/

Serg

19:46

I am not quite sure what to do. Should i go mess with python on my rasperry ? Try to actually learn matlab ? Do some homework ? Maybe watch a movie ( though also unsure which to watch )? Maybe play with ruby or perl?

Videonauth

lol @serg :)

SmokeDetector

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Videonauth

you could peer review my python code :D and play it a bit too

Serg

Sure ! Link ? @Videonauth

Videonauth

paste.ubuntu.com/23521900

Serg

19:49

eh, i don't have pygame module . . . installing

Videonauth

pygame is fun if you want to virtualize things

or having a go making a game like i did last evening and this morning

RPi Awesomeness

898 words, just within the three body paragraphs. Granted, that has a few larger quotes, but that's still without the introduction and conclusion. Man I'm wordy.

@Videonauth I actually haven't ever used Pygame much myself. How easy is it to use?

I've messed a bit with Qt and Gtk+ stuff, but never Pygame

Videonauth

kinda easy

the website and documentation is great

theres ton of info on SO as well

not dabbled into 3d graphics yet with it but in worst case i use sdl or glfw for that

Nathan Osman

I wish Ubuntu had a pygame package for Python 3.

Videonauth

took me about 4 hours all in all to write that snake code from scratch and making it work

@NathanOsman huh ? im using it with python 3 ??

works wonderfull

RPi Awesomeness

19:53

I use pip for everything anyways :P

Simpler and more up to date

Nathan Osman

@Videonauth Right, but did you install from pip?

@RPiAwesomeness slight correction, pip and virtualenv :D

Videonauth

i think yes installed it with pip

RPi Awesomeness

@NathanOsman True.

Nathan Osman

And these days I tend to use Docker for isolation.

Serg

ok , game started, pressed s, but dots didn't move

Videonauth

19:55

@serg wsad get you moving but once your moving the snake wont stop

that standning still is just grace period

the snake grows with each apple (red dot) eaten and touching the borders or yourself is game over

Serg

Hmm, restarting game bugs out

RPi Awesomeness

Ugh, I have too many different things I want to do ;(

Videonauth

@Serg ah i see

dangit forgot to reset the variables

RPi Awesomeness

I have 4 separate projects I want to work on, one of which I'm a part of a team on so I have to actually do that. And they're all in different languages too. Plus I want to learn Go, C++, and Julia. Oh, and be social IRL too.

Videonauth

@serg corrected version here

paste.ubuntu.com/23523979

tomorrows challenge i set for my self is doing a nice conways game of life with pygame

pong i have here on my list as well

Serg

20:05

@Videonauth well, that works now. The only thing i could say is make the linse a bit shorter or at least within 80 character margin. Just for the sake of readability

Videonauth

and space invaders :D

the lines are all within the 80 chars margin

most i have broken down already to multi line commands

Serg

48 def render_message(display, message, color=color_black, position=(0, 0), centered=None):

Videonauth

or at least i think this is where i have set the margin line with pycharm

Serg

This one is out of 80 chars , border_collision function, too

Videonauth

mhmmm

ok then my editor is screwed up

weird yes ok youre right this line i got in my editor is pointing at about 100 chars or so

wonder if this can be set in pycharm

Zacharee1

20:12

@Zanna maybe I should print with wine....

Videonauth

@serg this is the longest line i got in the programm

and its not exeding that marker line so i though i was fine

:)

Serg

What I personally would do is make a list and then expand that list

Videonauth

?

for the function parameters ?

Zanna

@Zacharee1 careful, there

Zacharee1

:P

Serg

20:19

@Videonauth yes, and maybe for that tuple too. Hold on a sec, i'll show you

140             blk = (block_size,
141                    block_size,
142                    display_width - 2*block_size,
143                    display_height - 2*block_size
144             )
145             pygame.draw.rect(display,color_white,blk)

what do you think ?

Videonauth

yes this could do

I now have broken down all lines with \

Serg

it's not always necessary. Lists, tuples, and dictionaries don't need \

Videonauth

and to be honest your aproach is nicer because it keeps the readability

will have to refactor the code i guess

Serg

hmmm, my unity settings daemon frequently crashes, i've no idea why

Videonauth

20:34

@Serg but to be honest this 80 char rule is so unnecessary somehow i craket up the font in my editor alot and still have room for about 300 chars on my screen

Serg

@Videonauth I used to think it's unnecessary too, because today monitors are way wider than in the past.The main reason is because old terminals were only 80 chars in monitor width. But I personally started to like it, because reading vertically down is a bit easier than horizontally, at least for me

Videonauth

yes makes sense i try to optimize it and stay within my editor marking which seems to be aparently 120 chars

so i can read down as well without scrolling left right

as you can see on the screen plenty of room that in sthe screen is the longest line i got in my program

Serg

what's the IDE you're using ?

Videonauth

pycharm

Serg

ah, ok

Videonauth

20:43

before i tried eric6 but to be honest its too cluttered

Serg

I just use plain vim

Videonauth

its sometimes really usefull

Serg

I use it all the time. All the scripts I write are done in vim

Videonauth

for example if i build modules and use them in a code, and renaming one gived you the option to check all files in your project for occurences and fixing them accordingly

Serg

that's a nice feature

Videonauth

20:47

or even search and replace in the whole project, i often use when renaming vaiables

up to that support for git included

you can push/pull commit etc from within the ide

(which takes a while to get used to, got a few times detached HEADs at the start)

IanC

good evening!

Videonauth

o/

IanC

how are you doing @Videonauth?

Videonauth

fine so far

Serg

he Ian

IanC

20:54

cool IDE btw

hey @Serg, all good? :)

Serg

same old, nothing special. Was trying to decide whether i should buy a new all;-in-one scanner/printer but I don't wanna spend money

I dont understand, how some people are so productive

Android Dev

@Serg I got this for $199 a while back. staples.com/…

Videonauth

@Serg hope you dont speak about me, im nowhere near being productive lol

IanC

I'd probably waste more paper then I should if I had a printer, I usually like to have hard copies of books to read them on work, street, so I think I'd end up printing tons of manuals, programming books haha

@Videonauth same here, damn, I lost the whole day sleeping

graveyard shift screws with my biological clock

Videonauth

:)

Serg

21:03

speaking of books, you know what's the advantage of knowing foreign languages ?

You can buy books for cheaper price

Bought python network programming in Chinese yesterday for 5$

:D

i think same book's English version costs like 30$

IanC

nice! :D

but can you read fluently in chinese?

Android Dev

@Serg But do you have to use Google Translate to read it?

Serg

@AndroidDev that's a big-a$$ printer ! Still works well ?

@AndroidDev @IanC I can read simple stuff. I'm not entirely fluent, but that's also a learning experience. See, there's a two-fold purpose : learn programming AND learn new vocab

Android Dev

@Serg Yep. It takes a while to warm up, but for $199 it was a smoking deal...

@Zacharee1 Uhhhhhhhh....

Serg

I'm currious if there are going to be any printer deals for Black Friday

IanC

21:07

@Serg you have a point there, heard chinese is a really hard language to speak, maybe less for reading?

Android Dev

@Serg My local staples had a Brother color laser (display model) for $135.

Serg

@IanC it's actually not hard in the grammar aspect. Chinese grammar is far easier than other languages, like Korean or Japanese, or IMHO even easier than English grammar. What's difficult for a lot of people is the tone - same syllable can mean different things with tone, so you have to get used to listening AND speaking with right tone

IanC

yeah, that's what I heard

Serg

As for reading . . . meh, it's just recognizing chars and their combinations , so it's all about memorization there

IanC

is it true that ma can mean mother and horse?

Serg

21:10

yes, it's true

妈ｍｏｔｈｅｒ，马ｈｏｒｓｅ

IanC

I can see some awkward situations with that haha

Serg

hehe , actually because Chinese words can mean different things with different sounds, some words are intentionally pronounced with incorrect tones to hide curse words

cao ni ma , for example

it can mean "grass mud horse" ( llama ) or . . . fsck yo mama

IanC

lol

man, sometimes I accidentally run into the right musics in youtube

Lilium - sleep inside

►

IanC

21:26

man, is it just me that gets lost when I open an Android project?

Serg

I've never even played with android projects

IanC

me neither, maybe I'll decide to learn it one day

for now, I only know android runs programs in VMs

someone from this chat told me that haha

Serg

I have Genymotion emulator for android, which i use to run some apps, but that's it

Android Dev

@NathanOsman - Quick question for you - I'm going to follow this guide for setting up an OpenVPN server on my home network: digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/… Which ports do I need to forward on my router?

Nathan Osman

I don't think you need to forward any.

You'll be connecting PC => VPN.

Android Dev

21:38

@NathanOsman Whoa! You are an expert lurker!

@NathanOsman Actually, it's going to be PC--> Internet--> My home IP --> my server

@NathanOsman - So I think I would need to forward a port(s)...

user136984

21:53

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user136984

When is Unity 8 going to be the default by the way?

Seth

when it's ready

Serg

@ParanoidPanda when it works on majority of hardware

user136984

How's it doing at the moment?

Serg

TIL that python makes it easy to do reverse dns lookup

>>> socket.gethostbyaddr('216.58.217.46')
('den03s10-in-f46.1e100.net', [], ['216.58.217.46'])

user136984

21:56

I mean, are we looking at 18.04 or will it likely not even be ready for that?

Serg

@ParanoidPanda see, that would have to be asked from devs and maybe even Mark Shuttleworth. So far, I couldn't even get Unity 8 to work in virtualbox. The actual hardware is far more complicated, too. There's tons of graphics cards that need to be supported.

user136984

@Serg: Unity 8 works under MIR doesn't it as opposed to X?

Serg

iirc , yes, it uses mir

TheXed

22:18

hello...

Mateo

@ParanoidPanda they have started working on the dash omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/11/ubuntu-1704-zesty-unity-8

user136984

@Mateo: Well that is good news.

user136984

Anyway, goodnight folks! :)

Zacharee1

@AndroidDev it's true

TheXed

So I have a server, that was used for a file server at work...

the raid failed (HD failed)...

So I moved the data to a newer server (faster, more storage, blah blah)...

reset security/share settings..

but the original server is only about 4 years old...

so I am going to retire it from its original use...

but I wonder...if it is worth the time to rebuild the raid array, and utilize it for something else that isn't system critical...

Serg

22:26

A far more interesting question would be this : will Unity 8 be backwards compatible ? Im sure a lot of devs would be interested in that

TheXed

I hate to throw out a $10k server away because a HD failed, and there is a server that is a better home for what it was being used...

Serg

They say it all will be snaps and unity 8 by 18.04, so will we still be able to use debs ?

Seth

@Zacharee1 Honor 8 is going for $300 on black friday/cyber monday.

TheXed

or I could install Windows 10 on it and have a really big ass expensive desktop machine muahahah...

can anyone hear me??

Serg

No not really. Its just text here so cant hear

TheXed

22:31

@Serg okay fine :P can anyone see my text?

Serg

@TheXed yesh

ACK

TheXed

@Serg maybe I will just give the server to you @Serg then you can find something to do with it.

Zanna

@ParanoidPanda I want to close your question because it's unanswered and now unanswerable in the same way that EOL questions are unanswerable. See last para meta.askubuntu.com/a/9026/527764

Serg

@TheXed I don't even know what to do with my raspberry right now :/

I have it sitting on my network so far, doing nothing

TheXed

@Serg pi-hole.net

IanC

22:37

@Serg, are you busy atm?

Serg

@IanC not really, I was about to wash dishes. What's up ?

IanC

it can wait, when you come back can you hit me on utox?

Serg

@IanC I can get there right now

Zanna

@ParanoidPanda even Oli said you can close unanswered version specific EOL questions meta.askubuntu.com/a/10449/527764 and your Q is proven version specific as the problem went away in newer release

Zacharee1

@Seth where? Hi Honor?

Seth

22:41

not sure. just heard about it in a michael fisher video

Mark Yisri

hey guys. I need 60 rep. Can someone tell me how to earn it, quickly?

Serg

@MarkYisri post a couple good questions, and answer a couple. Maybe do a couple reviews

Mateo

23:01

@Serg yes you can still use x apps, I once installed regular solitaire from the archives on my phone

TheXed

Is it wrong to hack into someones wifi to change their wireless channel to a different channel so it doesn't interfere with your wifi?

Seth

yes..

change your channel?

TheXed

I have tried...

the problem is...

one side of the house, channel 11 is the best...

Serg

@TheXed still counts as unauthorized access :/

TheXed

but if i go to the other side of the house that channel is saturatred...

so it needs to be like channel 2

then there are some random HP printers that are also clogging things up...

I have a 5g network, but not all my devices are 5G...

but i need one of the neighbors to change their channel to something further away from mine..

but closer to neighbor 1 or 2

so I can be on the farther range...

Mateo

23:06

Which would probably mess them up for the other side of their house ;)

TheXed

Don't care...as long as my wifi works :-P

Mateo

get some wifi dampening paint

Serg

get etherwebs, no semper wi-fis required

TheXed

see the root of the problem is...that I literally live at the central point of a cul-de-sac. So my house literally is getting bombarded by 10-15 networks...

Serg

serg.exe: core dumped, derp detected, wheeeeeeeeeeee

TheXed

23:11

all on similar channels. because they are not affecting each other...

makes me wonder what people do in apartment complexes...

Mateo

23:24

Ours works fine, there has to be like 20 in the list...

Serg

23:38

@TheXed plant more trees. Seriously. Wavelength of wifi signal is sufficient enough to be blocked by tree leaves. Or just put aluminum foil everywhere

IanC

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