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WinEunuuchs2Unix

00:00

I'm confused why this closed question made the reopen list: askubuntu.com/review/reopen/645588 because it's never been edited. Nor does it say who voted to reopen it and why??

@Zacharee1 ^^^^^

edwinksl

is it an audit

WinEunuuchs2Unix

So I voted to close it in the first place... they should have used a different question?

Anyway... thanks for the audit answer it explains a lot :)

Terrance

Woot! Completed my answer! Yay! askubuntu.com/a/852446/231142

WinEunuuchs2Unix

When I read that question this morning my "comment" was going to be 8GB but min 20GB and happy with 30GB :)... Your answer looks very nice BTW!

@Terrance If you don't mind me asking, why use XTerm instead of plain terminal?

Terrance

That's what it installed. I didn't tell it to do anything.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

00:09

ah ok... so it's a Ubuntu server thing then?

Terrance

That would be my guess. When I press the Ctrl+Alt+T, that's what comes up.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I have an extra laptop doing nothing... It would be cool to install Ubuntu Server on it except I have no clue of what practical application I could have it run.

Thomas Ward

randomly spawns

Terrance

I run desktop at home and I run my video server of Plex out of mine.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Yeah I don't have any videos, so that option is out :(

Terrance

00:13

Just easier for my DVD collection is all.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Hmmm... that sounds interesting. I do have 60 GB in music I could throw on a server. Not sure what good it would do though...

Terrance

Your own cloud type server where your player could play it all. I know Plex supports that too, but I haven't tried it yet.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Well that's a good idea... People at work ask me about various songs I have... so I could make my own cloud accessed by me or them or anyone else? Then again I guess that is illegal.

Terrance

There's a convo going on here about that sharing with others: forums.plex.tv/discussion/175424/…

WinEunuuchs2Unix

00:30

@Terrance I'm doing my review queues right now but I'll check it out later.

Terrance

@WinEunuuchs2Unix Sounds good. :)

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Ugghhh I posted a comment that a user's first answer was great! I failed the audit because they said I should have up-voted it!: askubuntu.com/review/first-posts/645594 The audit is flawed if it thinks every comment is negative and possitive ones can't be made.

Thomas Ward

tsk tsk :P

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I wish you could see my comment and retract the fail :p

Seth

@WinEunuuchs2Unix yeah that doesn't seem right.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

00:40

@Seth Well thank you for that.... I should have clued in though because the answer was posted by a no-name with a shadowy icon of a human.

Zacharee1

01:08

@Seth did you get it?

Seth

Get what?

Zacharee1

bootloop

Seth

oh. no.

or at least, not yet.

wrt the 5X people are reporting them after the OTAs. Apparently there is no temperature control during an update so it is easy to overheat the devices and break cheap internal components (thanks LG)

Zacharee1

hmm

@Seth all three of those phones have the 808 though

so that could have quite a bit to do with it

probably some of the same components other than the processor

Seth

is that the processor that had the overheating concerns?

Zacharee1

01:12

@Seth that was the 810

808 was purposely used on the V10 because of that

Seth

ah

Zacharee1

I'm thinking that, since the V10, G4 and 5X all use the 808, they probably also share some other things, like that "loose connector" or whatever

The V20 and G5 have 820s, which are really efficient. I was streaming Spotify, using Maps navigation and charging all at once today, and the phone barely got warm

Seth

well you can hope.

Zacharee1

why the downvote? askubuntu.com/questions/834030/can-i-run-ubuntu-on-this-setup/…

Seth

The connector, as far as we know (LG never made a helpful official statement) has to do with the processors 2 "big" cores.

If you disable 1/both of them the bootloop stops.

Or at least that was the G4's case.

Zacharee1

01:17

well that would support my hypothesis

Seth

it would.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Haha I tried to post a comment: "This question is being flagged as "too broad" but based on comments the knee-jerk reaction would be "EOL" as reason." and the queue review says "THIS IS AN AUDIT"... to this link: askubuntu.com/review/close/645605

Nathan Osman

02:00

@Zacharee1 Dash charge is awesome, BTW.

Zacharee1

how fast

Wafie Ali

@Zanna sorry for asking this dummy questions, but I saw some of the questions in SE sites starts with "So I'm", "So I've been" etc. Is it rightly according to Oxford standard or just used for spoken or chatting only. thanks =)

Nathan Osman

@Zacharee1 I can usually recharge from empty in an hour - while continuing to use it.

Zacharee1

0-100 in an hour????

Nathan Osman

I told you it's awesome.

Although I never run it to completely empty.

More like 10%-100%.

Zacharee1

02:06

how low

ah

well that's still really fast

how hot does the phone get though

Nathan Osman

It doesn't.

Zacharee1

o_O

what sort of voltage/current?

Nathan Osman

The circuitry for transforming the voltage is in the charger instead of the phone.

@Zacharee1 4A, IIRC.

Zacharee1

@NathanOsman Isn't it usually?

@NathanOsman that's... a lot

Nathan Osman

No. At least I don't think so...

Zacharee1

02:08

@NathanOsman do you mean the 5V -> 4.4/3.8,etc conversion?

Nathan Osman

> "By shifting the power management system and heat dispersion elements to our Dash Power Adapter, very little heat ever reaches your OnePlus 3T."

Zacharee1

hmm

why isn't this a standard?

Nathan Osman

You have to use their special AC adapter though.

Zacharee1

although, can you even charge it with another power supply?

Nathan Osman

But it's a fair trade-off.

@Zacharee1 Yes, but then you run into the usual problems.

Slower charge, heat, etc.

Zacharee1

02:09

normal charging, ugh :p

So why isn't Dash Charge a standard? Is it proprietary?

Nathan Osman

I'm not sure. Good question.

Zacharee1

I mean, QC 3.0 is nice and all, but it doesn't seem to compare

wonder what QC 4.0 will be like

supposed to introduce some nice safety features

oh wait, Dash Charge probably uses 9V too

that might be the conversion

Nathan Osman

> "Oppo has its own quick charging technology called VOOC, which you'll find in the likes of the Oppo R9 and the Oppo F1 Plus. Dash Charge is essentially a licensed version of that, but with OnePlus's own name attached."

Interesting.

Oppo is their parent company... I think?

Zacharee1

yup

why would OP need to license from its parent?

Oppo is a subsidiary of BBK

Nathan Osman

Probably more to do with paperwork than anything monetary.

Zacharee1

02:14

hmm

VOOC is such a derpy name

"hang on, lemme just use my vooc charger"

Apparently QC 4.0 can do 5 hours charge in 5 minutes

and 50% in 15

but I have no idea what size battery

Seth

why can't anything ever be simple

Zacharee1

ah 2750mAh

@Seth money

Seth

use configure, make, make install they said. there is no configure file or makefile IN ANY OF THE DIRECTORIES

Thomas Ward

lol

@Seth is there an autogen.sh?

Seth

nope

Nathan Osman

02:17

@Seth Make doesn't always need a Makefile.

Thomas Ward

^that too

Seth

@NathanOsman regardless it has no targets..

Nathan Osman

Create a file named test.c in a directory with the contents "int main(){}" and then run make.

Ravan

hello all :)

Seth

there is a configure.ac file, so I assume that generates configure.. but it won't run.

I might be missing a directory.

Nathan Osman

02:18

@Ravan Hey, how's it going?

Seth

hi @Ravan! :)

Nathan Osman

@Seth Do you have autotools installed?

Seth

@NathanOsman I have build-essential installed.

Thomas Ward

that doesn't install autotools if I remember right

Nathan Osman

Let me see which package you need...

Seth

02:19

stupid fresh installs haha

Nathan Osman

I think autoconf is the package you need.

Seth

I may have just found more detailed instructions

Zacharee1

here's a question

why do I have read access to /etc/hosts without root on my phone?

ES says it's writable too o_O

well time to try AdAway

Nathan Osman

02:34

It needs to be readable for DNS resolution.

As for writable... that's a bug.

Zacharee1

well it doesn't save :/

says it does, but no change

time to install AdClear I guess

Thomas Ward

02:51

@Zacharee1 Read access is needed for DNS in genera. Writable is a 'bug' but perhaps the kernel/system is overriding the file

Seth

seth@tanager:~/Downloads/tilp2-1.18$ autoreconf -i -f
aclocal: warning: couldn't open directory 'm4': No such file or directory
libtoolize: putting auxiliary files in '.'.
libtoolize: copying file './ltmain.sh'
libtoolize: putting macros in AC_CONFIG_MACRO_DIRS, 'm4'.
libtoolize: copying file 'm4/libtool.m4'
libtoolize: copying file 'm4/ltoptions.m4'
libtoolize: copying file 'm4/ltsugar.m4'
libtoolize: copying file 'm4/ltversion.m4'
libtoolize: copying file 'm4/lt~obsolete.m4'
configure.ac:53: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_PROG_INTLTOOL

Zacharee1

@ThomasWard usually the directories are blank

so /etc/ wouldn't have read at all

Thomas Ward

it may still have read rights even if the dir is blank

just sayin, there's nothing preventing read perms ;P

Zacharee1

I was more surprised that I could see it

duh the file has read rights

but the folder?

Thomas Ward

necessary for system to traverse probably.

Zacharee1

02:59

it isn't possible on other Androids

at least since 5.0

Seth

yay

found an install script on their website that worked

@ThomasWard isn't that the execute bit tho?

Thomas Ward

@Seth execute bit lets you go into the folder. +r is still needed for a dir listing

Seth

ah

WinEunuuchs2Unix

03:20

Interesting wiki thingy: "When a directory's sticky bit is set, the filesystem treats the files in such directories in a special way so only the file's owner, the directory's owner, or root user can rename or delete the file. Without the sticky bit set, any user with write and execute permissions for the directory can rename or delete contained files, regardless of the file's owner. Typically this is set on the /tmp directory to prevent ordinary users from deleting or moving other users' files.

Jacob Vlijm

07:16

@Zanna, narrowed down, but still pretty much unanswerable. "and understand the source code of Dia." Is not true I am sure :) askubuntu.com/questions/852132/…

Videonauth

@JacobVlijm he simply wants to know whow to compile dia, he hshall RTFM

and good morning all together :))

Jacob Vlijm

@Videonauth Hi, Good morning! He's got a funny way to ask that.

Videonauth

:D

Zanna

07:33

morning || afternoon || evening

Videonauth

btw is there a better option for autopep8 ?

Zanna

@JacobVlijm yeah idk if it's answerable but my interpretation is that they just want someone to tell them how to compile it

final aim: understand source code, not our responsibility hahaha

Videonauth

@Zanna even to braod fro ultra-patient users, there is only one option to understand source, reading it and having enough knowledge to folow the coding along

Zanna

07:55

@Videonauth yeah indeed, and testing it out for yourself... teachers can help with explanation along the way though :)

Videonauth

@Zanna to make steam run in most of the cases :

#!/bin/bash
mv ~/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/i386/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgcc_s.so.1{,.disable}
mv ~/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/i386/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6{,.disable}
mv ~/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/amd64/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpcre.so.3{,.disable}
mv ~/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/amd64/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpcre.so.3.12.1{,.disable}
mv ~/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/amd64/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libtinfo.so.5{,.disable}

but that diesnt fix the libGL error

Zanna

hey nice expansion

Videonauth

just looks more clean and prevents me from having to type alot :D

fact is that steam brings along all the needed libraries instead of using the optimized ones from the OS

so renaming them forces steam to use the ones the OS has

edwinksl

i am curious why i didn't have to do all that when i run steam

Videonauth

bad thing is, if you ever go and verify any game cache or steam is updating you have to redo those commands

@edwinksl you propably installed the one from the repo

edwinksl

08:08

oh that's right

why would people not install it from the repo then?

Zanna

@Videonauth yeah same as the LD_PRELOAD thing

Videonauth

but if you go and use the one from steams website you'll most likely to run into errors

@edwinksl they come from windows where you go to a website, download the installer and run it

and steam doesnt say hey theres a repo for your system

edwinksl

classic windoze

Zanna

(@Videonauth I was trying to dupe it to the question I answered haha)

because it looks like the same error

Videonauth

the swrast error hangs together with drivers for the GPU

Zanna

08:11

when folks say "that didn't work" I always wonder if they made a typo...

good to know the repo version behaves properly! maybe we should just suggest that folks install that instead hahaha

edwinksl

well i have been telling people to do that whenever i can

Zanna

smart

Videonauth

http://askubuntu.com/questions/614422/problem-with-installing-steam-on-ubuntu-15-04
or
http://askubuntu.com/questions/654566/steam-doesnt-start-libgl-error
or
http://askubuntu.com/questions/771032/steam-not-opening-in-ubuntu-16-04-lts

or google again google.de/…

edwinksl

i might have mentioned this before, but steam is such a PITA that it is the only stickied post in r/archlinux reddit.com/r/archlinux

Videonauth

lol

Zanna

08:15

hahaha

yeah I think I included the suggestion from that post in my answer

edwinksl

smart

Zanna

thanks to you!

edwinksl

:\\\

Zanna

same as @Videonauth's suggestion, only it says to rm the libs instead of gracefully mving them

Videonauth

yeah i did that just in case it becomes incompatible with the OS libs

so i can revert back if i have to

which is most unlikely but you never know

i hope they make it better when they update their client for steamOS 2.0

which is based on 16.10

Zanna

08:19

better not to burn things imho

Videonauth

the old steamOS was based on 14.04

so a much needed update

Zanna

I will edit my answer since we're on the subject

Videonauth

fact is this swrast.so driver question pops up again and again

there are so many already here on the site that merging them all into one would be a moderators nightmare

Zanna

hmmm... I remember cleaning up the git-all posts and the c-state bug posts with jokerdino :) :)

edwinksl

@Zanna why does your "Arch forum post" point to meta.askubuntu.com/questions/1137/how-do-i-accept-an-answer

Videonauth

08:26

eds you used numpy before? does it have support for verctors and vector math?

Zanna

hmm why does "below" annoy me as in "run the below commands" or "error as below"? I always change them to "these commands" "this error" if I am editing the post anyway... I mean, obviously the thing is below where else would it be

@edwinksl wth?! hahaha

edwinksl

@Videonauth yes and yes

Videonauth

cool thanks then i might have a read into

edwinksl

@Zanna yeah not sure what happened there... i blame lack of sleep

Videonauth

gah -.- now to find a way how i can get the usable size of a window with pygame

Zanna

08:34

@edwinksl haha that link has been there for months!!! I can't even find the post it was meant to point to!

anyway I edited

oh the link is in the comments o.O

you're right @edwinksl i should just go back to bed and stay there until Spring

edwinksl

no that is not how it works, you are supposed to be here

Zanna

haha <3

Nathan Osman

09:07

@Zacharee1 okay, I finally got something hooked up to my chat script server. Next time the script stops working, the monitoring service should immediately notice and restart the server.

If at any point, you see my script not working, feel free to ping me.

Because that should never happen.

@ThomasWard interesting discovery - OpenVPN can be insecure if you aren't aware that the default configuration doesn't forward IPv6 traffic. I have it up and running on my desktop but it is only forwarding IPv4 traffic through the VPN.

I wonder if the Docker container could be made to forward IPv6 traffic as well...

Looks like it is, but not stable yet: github.com/kylemanna/docker-openvpn/blob/master/docs/ipv6.md

SmokeDetector

09:38

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body: Paravex Male Enhancement Trial Reviews by ramseyhillips on askubuntu.com

blade19899

09:56

A blog post webiste anyone can edit: telegra.ph/Really-11-23-2

telegra.ph

Also, anyone has experience with mail security and shared servers?

0

Q: Mail security on a shared server

I have a shared server with multiple user on it. I'm trying to secure their E-mail connection with a wild card certificate. I added the key in /etc/exim.key and the certificate bundle in /etc/exim.cert. Restarted Exim and dovecot. And on a [email protected] everything worked fine. But, th...

Videonauth

@blade19899 crazy indeed

David Foerster

@Jakuje: Hi, can we talk about askubuntu.com/review/suggested-edits/645685? ;-P

I hope that was a fluke. If not, please don't approve edit suggestions that remove information provided by the author of a question (unless they're unrelated or duplicated).

Videonauth

haha funny i reviewed this just this moment

Zanna

10:14

"Zanna has approved 608 edit suggestions and rejected 235 edit suggestions and improved 261 edit suggestions" hmmm @Videonauth you are a lot kinder than me haha

Videonauth

@Zanna huh ?

Zanna

@DavidFoerster I think that ping will not work as Jakuje hasn't been in chat?

stats:

Videonauth has approved 1147 edit suggestions and rejected 115 edit suggestions and improved 44 edit suggestions
David Foerster has approved 4063 edit suggestions and rejected 867 edit suggestions and improved 768 edit suggestions
Jakuje has approved 294 edit suggestions and rejected 35 edit suggestions and improved 4 edit suggestions

David Foerster

@Zanna: Maybe but that is my best way to reach him or her.

Videonauth

maybe this is simply that i had good edit sugestions to review, for example from a user called @Zanna

Zanna

haha <3

I was going to say maybe you are luckier with the suggestions, but thanks for that! :D

Jacob Vlijm

10:26

...Slowly finding out that maintaining 11 ppa's could easily make a day's job :)

Zanna

shall I edit out the version askubuntu.com/questions/852624/… ?

edwinksl

i don't understand why OP would want to do such a thing lol

Zanna

hahaha the world is full of such mysteries...

@DavidFoerster they won't get a notification @DavidFoerster so they will never know you mentioned them? You need a mod to super-ping them...

terdon

@edwinksl Are they just looking for a boot splash?

David Foerster

@Zanna I know. I just hoped that Jakuje might have visited the chat. Otherwise there's nothing I can do.

terdon

10:35

@Jakuje :

31 mins ago, by David Foerster

@Jakuje: Hi, can we talk about https://askubuntu.com/review/suggested-edits/645685? ;-P

Zanna

@DavidFoerster I think if the tab completion doesn't find them then it doesn't work

terdon

29 mins ago, by David Foerster

I hope that was a fluke. If not, please don't approve edit suggestions that remove information provided by the author of a question (unless they're unrelated or duplicated).

David Foerster

@terdon: thanks

terdon

There you go.

np

Zanna

:)

David Foerster

10:36

@terdon No, I don't think so since they want the image for exactly 3 minutes.

Videonauth

reject or accept ? --> askubuntu.com/review/suggested-edits/645735

David Foerster

@Videonauth Looking at the tag descriptions – reject! They're either unrelated or too generic

Videonauth

not sure how to feel about just adding tags as an edit

thanks

terdon

@Videonauth Why? There's even a shortcut button that lets you edit the tags without editing the rest of the question once you hit a certain rep level.

In this case, I quite agree that the tags were kind of useless, but in general, edits that fix tags are fine.

Jakuje

@DavidFoerster Sorry, my bad. Thanks for the notice.

don.joey

11:43

any of you network gurus want to help out a poor dev? askubuntu.com/questions/852666/…

oh, already solved it... man

Zanna

12:03

@don.joey nice :)

Videonauth

12:18

ha, finished it :D

paste.ubuntu.com/23521900

Zanna

@Videonauth :D

Videonauth

took me about 4 hours from scratch

but most was bug hunting

Mark Yisri

0

Q: ELF loader for Cortex-M processors

Note: before you say it, this is not a duplicate of this. I want a specific library. I want an ELF loader that can relocate PIC (Position Independent Code) on Cortex-M processors. There is no MMU and relocations on Thumb/Thumb-2 code are required. Traditional ARM won't work.

open-source c

help please

Videonauth

12:49

no clue here @MarkYisri

Mark Yisri

yeah, I can't find anything

edwinksl

13:30

@SmokeDetector lol wut

Videonauth

one post got deleted and he was able to span in another one lol

terdon

Not anymore.

Videonauth

@terdon I bet lol

terdon

That's my mouse finger. The one I use to destroy spammers.

Videonauth

ouch that must hurt :p

Jacob Vlijm

13:33

@Videonauth He is also playing the guitar

edwinksl

smokersworld.info huh

yeah one hell of a fuzzy guitar too

Videonauth

oh @JacobVlijm since youre here, do you have a moment? would love you to peer review my code and tell me if i did any major mishaps python wise paste.ubuntu.com/23521900

Jacob Vlijm

@Videonauth I'd love to, but would you mind if I look tonight? I want to finish something and have to teach this afternoon :)

Videonauth

@JacobVlijm no rush mate

i rushed to get it done from scratch to have a test go at pygame

Jacob Vlijm

@Videonauth cool :)

Videonauth

13:36

took me from zero to programm around 4 hours

Thomas Ward

@NathanOsman Considering I don't have IPv6 configured at all and my DNS only returns v4 results right now that's not a huge issue.

Jacob Vlijm

@Videonauth That' s not too bad! while programming, the clock seems to turn faster :)

Thomas Ward

but you aren't wrong. that applies to a lot of VPNs right now though

Videonauth

@JacobVlijm indeed, this is why i timed it with a stopwatch

Jacob Vlijm

:)

@Videonauth I am slow usually. neurotic compulsive, but slow

Videonauth

13:40

well i wanted to know how i can adapt to a given problem (create a snake game)

its very basic but functional

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of body: Flash video not playing in any browser under Ubuntu by Thushyanthan Rasanathan on askubuntu.com

Videonauth

not sure if this is really spam or simply a clueless user

Zacharee1

@Videonauth the linked site is pretty slow... I could believe it's a Flash site

Videonauth

yeah it didnt even load on me properly, maybe because of the fact i have turned of JS execution for unkown sites

terdon

13:55

@Videonauth I don't think that's spam, no. For one thing "Does your browser correctly display flash on all sites? Well, come try this one, it doesn't work!" isn't very good advertizing :)

Videonauth

good then that i didnt flag it :p

Zacharee1

@terdon since when do spammers make sense though? :p

lol, I can't even complete a speedtest with 5 bars of 2G

CDMA definitely wins for 2G speed

at least it's .1Mb instead of .05

edwinksl

14:18

apparently steam sales today?

Videonauth

seems so

Alex

14:40

Hello guys.
I am using a VPS on Amazon WS. To access ftp I need to use the ubuntu user. I was wondering if it was possible to create another ftp user which would have access to the /var/www/html folder only

Mark Yisri

Can I have some help here?

David Foerster

15:06

@edwinksl: Thanks for your notification. You can remove your comment now.

edwinksl

nice, done

Mudit Kapil

15:43

@Fabby hi

where is fabby

anyone here?

@Zacharee1 Are you aware what will happen next?

Zacharee1

what?

Mudit Kapil

that timeline and you said something

It has become a dust storm here

life is on stake

Zacharee1

??

Mudit Kapil

do you know where is fabby? means when he could be available for a chat?

Zacharee1

no one ever knows

Rinzwind

15:54

@chili555 askubuntu.com/questions/852548/… ;-)

Mudit Kapil

@Serg hi

Serg

16:38

hullo

found interesting looking router

and 3 bucks only

also found a book "Inside Unix", comes with floppy disk that has all the scripts in the book

Zacharee1

@Serg WRT-54G?

why does everyone have those

chili555

@Rinzwind I'm on the case, but I regret that nobody is going to like the answer.

Serg

16:53

@Zacharee1 GS actually but yeah. I wasn't aware everyone has them. I'm smoking in the car actually. I decided not to take it. Sigh. I wanna yet i don't wanna spend money

chili555

@Rinzwind Answered.

Zacharee1

@Serg same thing

Serg

I'm so indecisive

chili555

@Serg I have one of those with dd-wrt firmware and it's solid and reliable. Of course, it only does 802.11B and G and its ethernet is only 10/100, but it always works without drama.

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