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DoR

00:32

Yay! Another Unity Customization question!

1

Q: About 11.04 Desktop Unity customization and more.

Possible Duplicate: Will Unity be more customizable? There was mostly nothing customizable in Netbook Unity and nothing adapted to desktop version, so here I brought my questions: Will Unity be customizable? Will the Unity Launcher stay on bottom? Will it be able to reposition? Will ...

@MarcoCeppi ^^^

Marco Ceppi

00:46

@DoR Is it a dupe?

if so just flag it, going bowling

George Edison

I've just safely removed a HD... how do I remount it now? :)

Is there a way other than just plugging it in again?

DoR

@GeorgeEdison What do you mean "Safely removed"?

George Edison

I right clicked the drive and hit "Safely Remove..."

So it was unmounted.

...and apparently, the drive shuts off when I do that.

DoR

Internal or External?

George Edison

External.

DoR

00:50

I guess you just have to plug it in again

George Edison

Okay, now it gets weirder. I've plugged it back in and started gparted.

Now it says "Unable to find mount point."

"The following list of software packages is required for ntfs file system support: ntfsprogs."

DoR

strange

George Edison

And I checked - that package is installed.

Argh.

DoR

Oh so it's NTFS formatted

George Edison

Yup. It's a 1 TB USB HD.

All NTFS formatted. I need to reallocate some of it to an EXT2 partition.

DoR

00:53

Is there any reason you can't reformat the whole thing to something else?

George Edison

Ya, there's about 40GB of stuff on it.

And I still want most of it to be formatted with NTFS.

DoR

Why?

George Edison

Because, it's used by other people.

(And other operating systems...)

garbagecollector

hello everybody

George Edison

I just need to get a bit of space to do some work - and the work happens to require a non-NTFS partition.

garbagecollector

00:55

anyone have a couple minutes to talk about an issue i am having with setting up gitweb

George Edison

Never used it, but sure.

garbagecollector

would like to enable the url

git.example.com

lovinglinux

:11849 Is this over already?

DoR

@lovinglinux Is what over?

lovinglinux

The AskUbuntu session on UDS?

DoR

00:57

Yeah it was over hours ago

garbagecollector

I have setup apache2 and git web

follows the instructions listed here

second answer

4

Q: How to set up Gitweb

I have set up Git on a server, using gitosis to control commit access. I would like to configure my Git system so that anyone inside our firewall can have read access to the Git repository, and I would like to set up Gitweb as well. I have found several Gitweb setup tutorials on various blogs, ...

apache git perl

no mas! ideas?

lovinglinux

:11886 Hahahaha, I guess I'm late. How do I get the video, audio or transcript?

George Edison

Nautilus: "Preparing to delete 87,000 files... 8 minutes left"

Time to sit back :)

DoR

@lovinglinux I don't know if there are any videos or audio up yet, but you can check out the notes using gobby

uds.ubuntu.com/participate/remote

Look at the Taking Notes section

George Edison

@DoR: I think I figured out the problem: the drive has a volume label with spaces in it.

DoR

01:01

@GeorgeEdison So you just renamed it with gparted?

George Edison

Not yet - it's deleting 87,000 files... see above :)

DoR

Did you copy them over first or what?

George Edison

No, I extracted a large archive... and discovered that I need to delete the files.

lovinglinux

:11897 Thanks. According to @marenostrum it wasn't made available at the end of the session. meta.askubuntu.com/questions/631/…

DoR

@lovinglinux I got these notes from gobby: pastebin.com/pKzyh9gX

garbagecollector

01:07

alright/

lovinglinux

:11904 Thanks. Please post at meta.askubuntu.com/questions/631/…

lovinglinux

@DoR I wish it was recorded.

DoR

@lovinglinux It's not still hosted on gobby.ubuntu.com?

lovinglinux

:11908 To be honest, I haven't tried.

DoR

I didn't save it, I just connected to gobby.ubuntu.com just now and grabbed it.

lovinglinux

01:19

:11910 It doesn't want to connect and I have a headache, so I'm going to be afk for a while.

DoR

@lovinglinux Are you using gobby 0.4 or 0.5?

lovinglinux

@DoR 0.4.12

DoR

@lovinglinux Use 0.5

Okay answered the question on meta:

meta.askubuntu.com/questions/631/…

@lovinglinux FYI the reason both 0.4 and 0.5 are installed is because they use different and incompatible protocols. So there must be some people/servers who are still using 0.4

garbagecollector

guys

can someone help me create this site on my server

blah.example.com

DoR

I am no expert on creating subdomains

There has to be an example on serverfault

marenostrum

01:37

Hi @DoR. Apperaently, we were writing at the same time on Meta. Some kind of dublicate answer, but both has a little bit different taste.:) I also made a comment. For your info.

:11916 That pastebin way is nice. It is what I should do as well. This is a lesson for me. BTW, aren't they delete those pastebin things after some time?

There's no expression in English as "aren't they delete". Grr. This sytem lets to edit chat post just for 2 minutes. Make an exception for me.

George Edison

02:03

How do I change the volume label on an external USB hard drive?

garbagecollector

@GeorgeEdison

wtf?

George Edison

Why? That's a real problem I have.

marenostrum

02:24

@GeorgeEdison Right now I havean external USB disk mounted and seems that I can change the label. Are you looking for a command line way, a sophisticated way or will the ways we mortals use be usefull?

George Edison

Any way :)

I tried Disk Manager, but the box is disabled.

marenostrum

It seems me impossible that you don't know that way if I know it. In fact its gparted way.

George Edison

I can't do it in gparted either.

marenostrum

What does it say?

George Edison

In fact, that's the reason I need to change the label - gparted won't let me do anything to the drive until I change the label.

The label has a space in it - not a good thing apparently.

marenostrum

02:27

Hmmm.

I don't know that much. You know, I'm just an "end user".

George Edison

Me too :P

marenostrum

:11941 Your reputation says something else.:)

George Edison

Well, thanks - but I've only been using Ubuntu for the last 5-6 months.

Before that, I was a Windows programmer.

marenostrum

:11944 But as a programmer it might be easy to adopt quickly. Anyway, I'm not a coder, programmer etc. at all.

@GeorgeEdison What is the filesystem on that drive?

George Edison

02:43

NTFS - I figured it out though.

It's ntfslabel which is part of the ntfsprogs package.

After manually unmounting it and running the command as root, I was able to change the label.

marenostrum

:11947 Hmmm. Nice. No problem now?

George Edison

Nope - not yet at least :P

marenostrum

:11949 Congrulations. Very nice.

George Edison

I'll be back, I need to boot Windows for a sec.

George Edison

03:04

I'm back.

DoR

@marenostrum Pastebin lets you choose whether or not your paste expires or not. I deleted my answer on meta, yours was more thorough.

George Edison

I just read it 2 seconds ago :)

So, I guess my work is cut out for me.

I have to make a way to convert the data dump into a CD tool.

marenostrum

:11955 pastebin: I see. The other: Thanks for your compliment.

DoR

@GeorgeEdison What are you talking about?

marenostrum

:11956 ???

@GeorgeEdison Is there a problem with the disk?

Roger Pate

03:27

@MarcoCeppi: you need to remove [featured] from the stub so it doesn't appear in that list on the main site

good merge, btw

DoR

HP makes some good quality software for linux :)

for printers at least

Marco Ceppi

:11963 Fixed ;)

George Edison

Sorry, everyone - had to boot Windows :P

Boy, everything is as slow as a turtle here.

Even Qt Creator is slow!

marenostrum

@GeorgeEdison Is everything OK there? Except that other OS.

George Edison

Other than that, it's fine... why?

marenostrum

03:39

:11972 Some lines above you've said...

George Edison

What...?

marenostrum

:11972 "I have to make a way to convert the data dump into a CD tool." I didn't get it.

George Edison

One sec...

DoR

►

George Edison

13

A: What was discussed, and what was the outcome of the Ask Ubuntu UDS-N session?

This post aims to provide two documents related with the session. 1 - The written short record of the session taken during the session: Publicly available source as of 30.10.2010 01:00 UTC via collaborative text editor Gobby, with server: document ubuntutheproject/ubuntutheproject-community-n-...

Towards the bottom, it mentions a "Wikipedia CD".

That's what I'm referring to.

DoR

03:42

@GeorgeEdison So you are planning on making an offline CD version of AU?

George Edison

Well, if I can find the time, yes.

It'll involve creating a tool that allows browsing of the SQL database.

marenostrum

:11980 Ah, OK; I see.

DoR

ubuntuone.com/p/Mvn

Now, that's what I call a GUI.

@GeorgeEdison BTW, Stackapplet should use the XDG directories to store files: standards.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/basedir-spec-latest.html

George Edison

What do you mean?

Where should it store files?

marenostrum

:11986 No need for great expectations. It shows that black and colour cartriges are fine. And they even use black-and-white dashes for blach, colour dashes for colour cartriges. :)

DoR

04:02

@marenostrum I know I actually like it :)

marenostrum

:11991 :)

George Edison

One small problem...:

It's being mounted as read-only AND look at the "Contents" section.

"some contents unreadable"

I just created the partition 2 minutes ago.

Wait a minute! It IS being mounted as read/write.

It's a permissions problem.

I fixed it.

marenostrum

:12000 Another good news from your front.:)

George Edison

04:19

Still learning :)

marenostrum

04:36

Bye for now @GeorgeEdison I'm going to rest some.

matt wilkie

05:30

I've a question that's nearly identical to this one: askubuntu.com/questions/7805/…, though I'm willing to add more detail and driver details etc. Should I ask a new question or add to that one as a comment? (likely won't fit everything in one comment)

Roger Pate

it's likely your specifics are different from that user's; I'd say a new question is appropriate

@matt: it would be worth linking to the other

tbh, this is unknown area for SE sites, to me

though many almost-duplicate questions do stay open on SO, where I have the most experience; it just feels a little different (so far) for tech-support than programming

matt wilkie

@Roger, thanks. That's pretty much what I thought but I haven't used askubuntu much yet so wanted to get a feel for how things work here. Looks like it's new for 'most everybody; definitely different from SO. :)

Roger Pate

yup ;)

matt wilkie

06:07

fyi, here's the post askubuntu.com/questions/10384/…

Roger Pate

10:10

don't suppose anyone with edit privileges is available to fix askubuntu.com/questions/10410/…?

needs a code block mostly; but also titled and tagged 10.10 instead of just "10"

fluteflute

:12013 On to it

:12013 Done

Roger Pate

10:48

thanks

marenostrum

15:31

@fluteflute I have good news. I managed to make Unity work on my Maverick. No more "speed" issue. I'll write a short report for you on what I did and upload it as a file somewhere and give its link here for your attention. Just for info. I'm writing this message on Unity at the moment. See you! :)

fluteflute

15:54

:12019 great!

marenostrum

:12020 I'm trying to write the short report on Unity but its so hard for me at the moment because I want to see some other places, some old documents etc. etc. and its hard.:) probably I'll write it on the "normal" GNOME interface! :)

fluteflute

:12021 Yeah Unity takes some getting used to :)

marenostrum

:12022 I'll learn!

fluteflute

I like your attitude :D

txwikinger

16:22

I need 79 more questions

Octavian Damiean

hello

txwikinger

@OctavianDamiean: hello

muad

hello :)

Marco Ceppi

17:01

Hello all

fluteflute

:12025 79 questions?

George Edison

Hey!

fluteflute

Hi :)

Actually I'm off to troubleshoot something....

0

Q: Keyboard causing freezes

My problem started on Windows XP: a computer (that was working fine for many years) had a problem, that I can't quite remember (may have been to do with the startup process) - but I solved it by swapping the keyboard with one on another machine. Now for several years the problematic keyboard has...

ubuntu windows-xp boot keyboard freeze

the person there had a very sensible suggestion :)

George Edison

Man, compiling Mingw-w64 is nothing to sneeze at.

txwikinger

@fluteflute: for 3000 questions

Octavian Damiean

17:19

:12032 What keyboard do you have there?

I've managed to freeze up my system once with my keyboard but that was just me playing around with the g19daemon

it's a bit sad to have such a nice and expensive piece of hardware in front of you and just have it display the Logitech logo

fluteflute

:12040 it's a super cheap dell keyboard ;)

I thumped my function keys and suddenly it's working

I'm typing this from natty (yes typing!)

Octavian Damiean

hmm interesting

fluteflute

not sure if it will persist after a reboot

Octavian Damiean

ew thats a good idea! lets update my natty vm :D

George Edison

That reminds me... time to update my ReactOS VM :D

fluteflute

17:28

natty is quite boring at present...

other than freezing keyboards :(

Octavian Damiean

does anyone know how I can tell natty to accept a decent resolution on VirtualBox OSE?

fluteflute

Nope....

Everyone go mark my bug report as affecting them... ;) bugs.launchpad.net/gwibber/+bug/668815

Octavian Damiean

800x600 drives me crazy ...

fluteflute

:12054 Ouch!

Octavian Damiean

:12055 What would you propose as a fix for that "bug" you mentioned? Reword the second "Add" button to "Done" or something?

fluteflute

17:33

:12056 Probably when you press "Add" then the account is "created", and then anything you enter in the boxes is automatically added to the account (hopefully that makes sense)

George Edison

Ha! A 'potato-powered web server': d116.com/spud

Octavian Damiean

:o

wow that is quite impressive

fluteflute

alternatively something with "panes", you click in the left pane on a type of account. then a right hand side pane has the actual options. and then you click done.

wow it is. except it's dead....

Octavian Damiean

:12061 It would be cool to select a type of protocol from the list which automatically "selects" it and thus displays the available fields/controls

fluteflute

:12063 Yeah I think you are talking about the same idea as me :)

Octavian Damiean

17:39

kind of yea the only difference is that you would position it as a separate pane on one side and I'd leave it as a list

hmm your idea would require even less clicks (one) but take more space

George Edison

Too bad the data dump isn't available for AskUbuntu yet :(

fluteflute

Do you think SE are worried we'll run away to Shapado? ;)

Octavian Damiean

why or better what do you mean by that?

added my proposal

George Edison

I don't think so - Shapado is ugly :)

fluteflute

:12070 "why or better what do you mean by that?" - are you talking about what @GeorgeEdison said about data dumps, or something I said?

:12070 Thanks for adding that idea :)

Octavian Damiean

17:45

yes

fluteflute

well you know how all the site content is licensed under a creative commons license

every month on the bigger SE sites they release all the questions and answers in one big file (the "data dump")

but that hasn't yet been done for Ask Ubuntu

although the content is still under the CC license, it's just not easily available in that form

Octavian Damiean

ah yea I know what you're referring to now :)

George Edison

@flute: I don't know... what are we talking about?

Octavian Damiean

the data dumps

George Edison

Oh yeah... where are they?

I don't think they've come out yet.

Octavian Damiean

17:56

does anyone know why launchpad doesn't use Git but Bazaar, CVS and Subversion?

fluteflute

It uses only Bazaar

more or less

dv3500ea

Launchpad uses bzr because bzr is cool

George Edison

yeah.

Octavian Damiean

and git isn't?

George Edison

I love Bazaar!

dv3500ea

17:57

I don't know much about git

George Edison

@Oct: I've never used it - so I don't know.

dv3500ea

AFAIK its pretty similar to bzr

Octavian Damiean

yea its not that far away from it

dv3500ea

I don't really know the advantages of one vs other

Octavian Damiean

hmm very interesting decision by Canonical to just develop their own vcs

dv3500ea

18:03

They like just developing their own things :D

fluteflute

I think the alternatives have matured since bzr was first created

Octavian Damiean

oh it makes perfect sense why they made their own

Linus started to develop git in April 2005 and Canonical was already developing Bazaar since February 2005

dv3500ea

Yes, that makes sense.

fluteflute

Okay.. time to restart natty and see if my keyboard still works...

Octavian Damiean

gl

dv3500ea

18:11

:O tabbed browsing has its downfalls:

Default "Post message..." text in MeMenu should disappear when message field gains focus

The default "Post message..." text in MeMenu session applet should disappear when message field gains focus. Otherwise users must manually delete the text, which is rather annoying. Also, the way message field gets focus is a little weird. The cursor gets inserted _before_ the default text, making removing it even harder (must use del instead of backspace). OS Information: Description: Ubuntu maverick (development branch) Release: 10.10, Latest RC

The Me Menu

Undecided / New

adding accounts is confusing (requiring two clicks of "Add")

Binary package hint: gwibber Gwibber's add accounts is very confusing. I added a twitter account, authorised it with twitter, and closed the window - despite the reality being my account had not been added. You have to click "Add" twice to add an account. I think this behaviour is confusing. See the screenshots attached. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.04 Package: gwibber 2.32.0.1-0ubuntu1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.36-1.7-generic 2.6.36 Uname: Linux 2.6.36-1-generic i686 Architecture: i386 Date: Sat Oct 30 18:21:50 2010 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.10 "Maverick Meerkat" - Release i386 (20101007) PackageArchitecture: all ProcEnviron: LANG=en_GB.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: gwibber

gwibber (Ubuntu)

Wishlist / Triaged

embarrassing...

George Edison

Does anyone have access to a Win64 machine?

dv3500ea

Does Vista count?

fluteflute

:12104 Oopsy :)

Octavian Damiean

:12108 Yes Win7 64bit

it's one meter away from me

fluteflute

:12104 That other bug you were looking at is incredibly annoying though

It makes the Me Menu practically unusable in my opinon

dv3500ea

18:18

I wonder how many people have posted 'Post to: facebook, twitter...' as a status update...

fluteflute

:12115 The colour of the text is horrible too

dv3500ea

Grey on black is not the best for readability

Actually that is another bug

fluteflute

I filed it earlier

dv3500ea

"Post message..." text in MeMenu is unreadable with default Ambiance theme

Binary package hint: gnome-panel "Post message..." text in MeMenu is being displayed in black making it completely unreadable against a dark gray background. Description: Ubuntu maverick Release: 10.10

light-themes (Ubuntu)

Undecided / Confirmed

fluteflute

or maybe I didn't report it... just meant to

dv3500ea

18:21

:) just mark yourself as affected

fluteflute

bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-me/+bug/668705

let me report myself as a duplicate...

fluteflute

18:33

-6

Q: ubuntu unity is the worst idea that canonical ever had.

If the next LTS has that interface, i will make have use windows as my servers because I think unity is ugly, slow, non-responsive a lot of things are wrong with it and I'm pretty sure that i won't be the only person leaving Ubuntu. So canonical i suggest you guys to re-think about that decision.

ubuntu-desktop 11.04

^ Ouch

DoR

@fluteflute I just saw that too

@_@

JanC

@fluteflute: just saw that one too

fluteflute

vote to close...

and I left a comment

George Edison

@Oct: Oh great.

dv3500ea

'ubuntu unity is the worst idea that canonical ever had.' is the worst question Ask Ubuntu has ever had...

3

htorque

18:36

:>

Octavian Damiean

:12133 tell me; how I can help you with win64?

George Edison

Thanks, but I'm not quite ready yet - I was hoping you might be able to test something, but I haven't compiled it yet.

Octavian Damiean

ah k just tell me when you're ready

:12126 lol at that dude. Unity isn't even out yet for desktop and he is complaining about having to switch to Windows as a server distro.

that made me laugh quite a bit :D

JanC

not to mention that running the netbook edition on a server is somewhat eccentric ;)

Octavian Damiean

yea

well that's mostly people migrating from Windows world to the linux world. They have to use some kind of UI even for their servers

dv3500ea

18:43

All Linux servers have a UI...

A CLI!

fluteflute

CLUI ;)

Octavian Damiean

sorry I meant a GUI

dv3500ea

I didn't even know servers could have a GUI.

Octavian Damiean

sure install gnome/kde/lxde/xfce

fluteflute

well you can run a server from an Ubuntu desktop install

Octavian Damiean

18:45

in fact you'll have a desktop then but people will call it a server

of course you can but I don't see the advantage

dv3500ea

I suppose a GUI is just a waste of resources for something that will just be sitting there

and serving

fluteflute

agreed

Octavian Damiean

yes and yet another part which might break your server

JanC

19:02

ow, right, summer time ends tonight

JanC

/me had almost forgotten that

dv3500ea

Extra hour in bed :)

Octavian Damiean

wait what?

dv3500ea

Clocks go back tonight (In UK).

Octavian Damiean

oO

JanC

19:25

in Belgium too (all of the EU I think?)

Octavian Damiean

yes

I'm just surprised

as always

elzapp

In Norway as well... I guess most of Europe

elzapp

Which means that it'll just be almost pitch black when I go to work on Monday, as opposed to completely black

elzapp

19:41

And it'll be dark when I go home from work. You just got to love it...

Octavian Damiean

for me it just means that I'll need about two months to accommodate

great

:12151 does the keyboard still freeze?

fluteflute

:12174 I'm on lucid again now

but when I rebooted earlier it was certainly working better, though I did have the odd glitch

Octavian Damiean

odd glitch?

elzapp

@fluteflute did you use unity?

fluteflute

:12178 no, normal gnome in natty was giving me strange freezes

Octavian Damiean

19:47

:12178 Unity isn't default on natty at the moment

elzapp

My keyboard hangs for a second every three seconds or so when I have unity installed

fluteflute

:12177 well I had one freeze, but after that it was fine

elzapp

Yeah, but were unity installed?

fluteflute

:12181 Ah right. Unity works fine on Maverick for me.

Nope not installed at all on natty

elzapp

I had yo uninstall it on Maverick, the system were unusable with it installed

elzapp

19:49

Lots of IO interrupts

fluteflute

I'm not judging Unity until later in the cycle when we actually see it!

Though I'm quite excited, because I do like Unity as it stands at the moment

It seems most of the concerns are hardware support type bugs (like yours) which I'm confident the port to compiz will address

elzapp

I like some of it

elzapp

And as you say, it is not ready

elzapp

I would like a way to hide the sidebar.

fluteflute

:12193 The "launcher" will have an option for auto hide by the time 11.04 is released :)

Octavian Damiean

19:55

I won't judge until I see it in action

JanC

for me it also often takes 20 seconds for unity to register/acknowledge a click and that sort of things

JanC

and sometimes it just starts to do something (lots of disk I/O, mouse pointer moves very erratic and clicking does nothing) and never stops with it until I power down hard :P

htorque

my hardware/driver (nvidia blob) combination and mutter don't like each other and it thrashes the cpu like mad (no i/o though). with 3d-enabled nouveau drivers everthing's smooth.

George Edison

@Oct: Here it is: files.quickmediasolutions.com/SampleApp64.exe

It's a basic app that displays a window.

I compiled it with Mingw-w64 on Ubuntu and I hope it works.

fluteflute

I guess up until now the main usecase for Unity has been on machines with it preinstalled - it's been a contained environment they can test on far better.

Octavian Damiean

20:04

:12199 I may trust you?

George Edison

Yes, if you have any doubts, scan it first.

htorque

canonical becoming the new apple? only working on selected hardware? :P

George Edison

But it will turn up clean :)

Octavian Damiean

nah it's ok

fluteflute

:12205 not anymore.... (but to a certain point yes with the 'old' unity)

Octavian Damiean

20:06

:12206 It gets me a window with a black command line like interface

George Edison

Perfect! Thanks!

Now I know that Mingw-w64 is compiling things properly.

Soon I'll start porting some of my apps to Win64.

Octavian Damiean

cool

I was already wondering when someone would actually post such a thread ... ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1609612

the most pointless thread ever ...

debate and discuss something which didn't even happen yet

very productive

fluteflute

I like the lulz.ro/pics/1260654052470.jpg

Octavian Damiean

yea

that pretty much sums it up

htorque

+1

fluteflute

20:19

Forums mockup includes Ask ubuntu link! mikesplanet.net/2010/10/coming-soon

htorque

thanks god, they got rid of the purple and aubergine bars

JanC

20:36

@fluteflute: seems like we just posted about the same comment with 18 seconds difference :P

fluteflute

:12224 Indeed. Very strange though. Two reports of the same thing across all browsers

JanC

uhu, just what I was thinking

fluteflute

:12224 just deleted mine

JanC

but OTOH, most people have no issues

htorque

i'm getting the same from time to time

JanC

20:37

I wonder if they have the same provider or use same DNS servers or something...

htorque

on kernel.bugzilla.org or gnome.bugzilla.org

JanC

or have the same crappy home router

fluteflute

:12231 but your issue is happening occasionally, on the odd site, on the odd browser

the reports seem much wider. though I wonder if they are experiencing the problem on our site....

JanC

I only have that if I restart my browser after it crashed on flash or something, and it has to reload 200 tabs or something like that :P

htorque

hm, i will reboot and check if i'm getting this too with windows

JanC

20:41

LP tends not to like that for example :P

fluteflute

kernel.bugzilla.org and gnome.bugzilla.org don't want to load for me...

I think you meant bugzilla.kernel.org and bugzilla.gnome.org

htorque

rque

htorque

phew, windows boots slow :P - yeah, you are right - my memory sucks

fluteflute

not that many releases ago windows booted faster than ubuntu for me :-o

htorque

seeing the same in opera, windows 7 and bugzilla.gnome.org

fluteflute

20:45

I'm glad things have changed!

:12243 interesting

:12243 you don't happen to be Moldova?

htorque

nope, sitting in germany right now

fluteflute

Hmm still some (limited) geographic connection between you and the person who "reported" that question today (who is in moldova)

actually that's very limited

Octavian Damiean

about 3000 to 4000km limited

fluteflute

I wish we knew were askubuntu.com/users/5026/kellen who reported the other one is

I need to be off for a bit

(you'll probably do better without my very tenuous links..)

George Edison

21:02

Argh... now I can't get make to give me the line number of an error!

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