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Nathan Osman

00:12

I'm having a hard time deciding on a camera...

edwinksl

00:43

@Zacharee1 lel "You want to run Windows programs in Windows by running them under Wine under Bash?"

Journeyman Geek

00:54

maakes sense

Nathan Osman

01:11

Inception at its finest.

That exceeds even nested virtualization when it comes to awesome points.

edwinksl

@NathanOsman feel free to chip in :P askubuntu.com/questions/816933/…

Zacharee1

01:32

@edwinksl but, like, why

Nathan Osman

Arg. SourceForge is down.

Remind me again why they are still relevant?

Bonus points - their "status dashboard" is down too.

James Tobin

02:04

@anwar I'm back

Nathan Osman

02:40

SMB on OS X. Ugh...

Nathan Osman

02:57

Chat died?

It was gone for a few moments there.

edwinksl

it was fine for me. just quiet as usual on a thurs night :D

Nathan Osman

It wasn't loading for a few minutes there.

Zacharee1

04:54

I JUST LOVE INSOMNIA

Anwar

05:11

@JamesTobin are you there still?

How do I find a question recently gone from featured tab?

I found a solution for it

Zacharee1

Use your history function?

Anwar

like this one

people keep saying, You can install multiple DEs and it's just same as using 1 DE based dist

which is totally wrong.

@Zacharee1 Thank you. found it :)

this question bountied and tweeted

@jokerdino hi!

jokerdino

05:39

hi

Anwar

yay! \o/ it works for another question!

Zanna

@Anwar thanks for your comments on the systemd question :) I can't find a service my system considers non-critical enough to allow me to mask, if that's the reason

I might end up asking a question about it. I have spent a looooonnnng time reading

Anwar

good. i can learn something i wanted to learn without spending much time

Zanna

hehe :)

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

06:05

Hello

Anwar

hello

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: Ipsec client configuration for ubuntu

Error log while connecting ipsec client to server Aug 26 11:39:56 Laptop-4 kernel: [ 5599.706851] AVX instructions are not detected. Aug 26 11:39:56 Laptop-4 kernel: [ 5599.754943] AVX instructions are not detected. Aug 26 11:39:56 Laptop-4 kernel: [ 5599.775752] AVX instructions are not detecte...

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Anwar

06:28

[this question ](askubuntu.com/questions/762535/…) can be removed from unanswered queue

Zanna

nice work

Hahahaha I can't believe this is a real question askubuntu.com/questions/816933/…

No doubt I missed @Zacharee1 and @edwinksl cackling over it a few hours ago

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

06:55

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Q: A Distro project built on Ubuntu, but way out there from what is known today

To the editors! I am looking for some bored programmers. Forgive me, I miss DOS, and I am hopelessly lost in qbasic. I've messed with C++ recently and I find it horribly different :( anyways... Omnios. This is an OS proper, built on the kernel, but with a different plan. Methinks that there ca...

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Zanna

07:45

I found some services I can mask & unmask after all

What's the easiest way to find out what module your touchpad uses?

Journeyman Geek

I'd guess lsusb or lshw?

assuming its working now

Zanna

neither of those shows it, checked already, and yes it's working

I know the module on my own device, I'm trying to help someone else

I can sort of find it by reading /proc/bus/input/devices to get a clue and then doing ls (find /lib/modules/4.4.0-34-generic -type d -name "mouse") and matching the information from the first to one of the options in the second, with a bit of imagination, but that's a bit awkward

can't get anything to just give me the line "touchpad blah blah kernel thing in use: elan_i2c.ko"

Journeyman Geek

08:14

ah

that actually smells like a right way to do it.

Zanna

haha thanks :)

grep -iA 2 touchpad /proc/bus/input/devices... I guess it's not bad

well gradually I am beginning to understand systemd and its mysteries... I think I know why I can't unmask a masked service

Serg

08:34

Gaaaaah, i can't remember a song . . . . . i remember the tune, but not the name . . . .so i can't find it . . .

Zanna

that always happens for me

once I was dumb enough to search YouTube for a song I didn't know the name of based on a snippet of the lyrics which was "sexy girl" >_<

Serg

^_^''' yeah, the search results probably were more than just songs

Journeyman Geek

loool

that sorta thibg happens to me a lot. Finding songs by snippets of lyrics that is

Zanna

Let's just say the search results were not what I wanted

Serg

Well, this one is in Japanese . . . and I don't speak Japanese yet . . .

Journeyman Geek

08:38

oh, that's worse

search history?

Serg

It's been forever ago , i don't think it's in my history anymore

I think i know the artist name . . . . but not 100% sure

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: Install docker 1.9+ on ubuntu 14.10

I need docker networking capabilities, which are only supported in 1.9+ version, but the best I can get on my Ubuntu 14.10 server is 1.7 I tried installing by hand as described here, also via docker script wget -qO- https://get.docker.com/ | sh

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Zanna

where are the tray icons in Unity?

Serg

@Zanna you need their location ?

There's /usr/share/icons/

Zanna

Thinking about this askubuntu.com/questions/816059/…

Serg

08:55

@Zanna do you have chrome installed ?

Zanna

no I don't use proprietary stuff if at all avoidable...

I don't wanna answer that question, just give a clue shrug

Serg

I already gave, left a comment there

Zanna

oh thanks :)

Serg

dammit where's that song

Zanna

hums the tune unhelpfully

Anwar

09:11

noon

Serg

Hi, Anwar

Anwar

hi serg!

Arronical

That's always fun!

Anwar

Nooooooooooooo

frustrating ...

Serg

@Anwar Just leave a comment saying "If my answer has solved your problem please leave an upvote" Something along these lines

terdon

09:14

Remember that new users can't vote.

Anwar

Serg, did it. hope they won't leave the question.

the OP wasn't that new. anyway, I better forget it :)

terdon

@Anwar True. On the other hand, they said they'd test your answer and get back to you. That seems reasonable. They shouldn't upvote, let alone accept, before they know whether it works.

Arronical

Breathe deeply...

Anwar

@terdon Oh. good point :)

mod magic in work i guess

Serg

gosh, there's tons of anime songs. I cannot find the one

terdon

09:17

@Anwar Not really :). You said you left a comment, so I just looked at your recent comments (those are accessible to everyone) and located the answer.

Anwar

oh. I didn't know comments are accessible for everyone

Serg

Yup

Well, not sure about 2012 - 13 , but they changed profiles a year ago or so , so now there is "all actions" menu there

Anwar

I see... thank you

Serg

It's actually pretty useful if I wanna locate a post where i commented but dont recall the name

Anwar

yeah. I leave a comment when I can't favorite a question

terdon

09:26

:31919811 Pretty sure it was, yes. I've been active on SE since 2012 and I always remember them being accessible.

Anwar

@Terdon thank you :) That means either I forgot it or was too lazy to explore all settings

terdon

Yeah, it's hidden in the user page tabs. It's easy enough to miss.

Anwar

fair point

Serg

@grooveplex somehow I doubt my question on security se will get many more answers . There's still 2 days till bounty expires . . .

Anwar

this and this are duplicate of each other i think

Serg

09:47

what do you guys think?

i wanna apply , doesn't seem like they have too high requirements

Jacob Vlijm

@Serg If you like it, I would apply. Doesn't seem like a very exciting job though, Could be that you get bored :)

Serg

@JacobVlijm Eh, my previous job wasn't exactly exciting either. Right now I'd love to find something to put on resume as "relevant experience" and get some money :/ Insurance would be nice too

Jacob Vlijm

@Serg Then I think you are better capable of doing the job than some administrators I know :)

Anwar

@Serg Applying is always good in my opinion

terdon

@Serg just a heads up, -exec du -c {} + won't work either. I don't think you can do this with find.

SmokeDetector

10:07

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Get Slim And Shaped Figure With Exoslim Garcinia Combogia by bresahouk on askubuntu.com

Serg

@terdon yes, that one wont work. That's why i use \; , I just run du on per-file basis

terdon

@Serg Fair enough. The + was my first thought, that's why I mentioned it.

Serg

I think this question is a dupe . . .I recall some time ago me and kos we're figuring similar thing out

terdon

Yeah, it does seem familiar.

Serg

gosh i can't find anything tonight , not even related dupe

Jacob Vlijm

10:16

Anyone knows what happened with Kos btw? He disappeared at once.

Serg

No one knows , really

Anwar

oh. found him in AU by searching kos in question.

He's mentioned in multiple answers :)

Serg

yeah, he was one of the top command-line question answerers

We got command-line gold tag about the same time :/

Anwar

I see.

congrats for them!

Jacob Vlijm

...Feel kind of sorry, I liked the way he worked here

Anwar

10:22

he can be contacted via launchpad i saw.

Serg

Yeah, he was definitely one of the top guys here

Anwar

@Serg his profile shows command-line silver!

Serg

@ParanoidPanda here's another version of Yoshiwara Lament, by Yurica , she's pretty famous online singer : youtube.com/watch?v=eEBNbJ4bk_8

@Anwar yeah, because after the great purge a lot of people lost rep and with rep we lost badges

i lost mine too

But I'm about to get it back soon . . . .soooooon . . . .. :p

Anwar

you didn't contact SE?

Serg

It's a bit more complicated than that

Anwar

10:29

i see...

how do i override an environment variable in graphical session without logging out?

is there a way?

Serg

What variable ?

Anwar

a qt variable QT_STYLE_OVERRIDE

Serg

Ah . . . You could do something line $ QT_STYLE_OVERRIDE="new value" my_program

so pre-pend new variable value to the program

Anwar

I know. I can't do it for whole session right?

for example it's set already in my KDE session

I can run individual application using your suggested method.

but I want to remove it from session

Serg

No, I don't think there's a way to do that

Anwar

10:35

Ok. thanks.

apt complains about weak hash algorithm. how do you create stronger key using sha256? I didn't get any option in gpg.

Serg

11:09

well, what shall i do? stay up or should i go get more sleep? i slept whole day yesterday though

Anwar

I found this one about gpg helpful ekaia.org/blog/2009/05/10/creating-new-gpgkey

you can sleep :)

Serg

sleep is a bit problematic topic for me, my clock is up side down unlike most people

Anwar

my internal clock almost cracked!

Rinzwind

11:49

just got a notice of a 4th company infected by a cryptolocker :D

James Tobin

12:11

hey @anwar

I'm up at a hotel :)

cl-netbox

12:56

Hello everybody ! :)

James Tobin

hey

cl-netbox

@Serg : Congratulations my friend ! :) You've made it into the international press -> omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/08/… ... well done - really well done ! :)

10

@JamesTobin Hi ! :)

James Tobin

welcome!

luchonacho

Hello ppl! Quick question. Is it worth replacing a HDD in a laptop? Or a new laptop is the way forward?

Mine just died today

cl-netbox

@luchonacho depends on how old your laptop is ... Hi ! :)

edwinksl

12:59

this is an opportunity to change to a SSD

luchonacho

@cl

@cl-netbox 3 years.

James Tobin

@lunchonacho replace every wd with seagate

luchonacho

@edwinksl you mean a new laptop with SSD?

cl-netbox

@luchonacho If everything else is okay you can replace the HDD ... it is way cheaper than a new notebook ! :) But I would recommend to replace it with a SSD ! :)

edwinksl

@luchonacho nope i mean keep everything the same and just swap the HDD for a SSD

luchonacho

13:02

Mmm, interesting. Never heard of SSD nor seagate

Having in mind that I've never opened a laptop, could I change it myself?

(can't find embarrassment emoticon)

Orphans

Have you never heard about SSD (Solid State Disk)?

luchonacho

@Orphans :(

cl-netbox

@luchonacho replacing disks is easy ... open the laptop ... the disk should be fixed with one or two screws ... :)

Orphans

simple.ripley.cl/computacion

I do not understand spanish thou, but you should be able to find a SSD there

luchonacho

@Orphans ahahahah nice. thnks. I'm in the UK atm.

Orphans

13:11

@luchonacho
Alright, visit this link instead

amazon.co.uk/Samsung-inch-Solid-State-Drive/dp/B00P736UEU/…

luchonacho

@Orphans omg! they are as expensive as a new laptop! store.hp.com/UKStore/Merch/List.aspx?sel=ACC&ctrl=f

edwinksl

@cl-netbox lol someone just wrote 3 answers based on that link :P someone really likes serg's stuff

Serg

@ParanoidPanda in case you're into nu-metal style of music, like korn and slipknot, check these guys out. youtu.be/7EBGGosuNTI Russian band, Amatory.

luchonacho

@Orphans but I need an internal SSD, not an external one.

cl-netbox

@edwinksl unbelievable ... who does something like this ? hopefully they place a reference to @Serg ? ? ?

Orphans

13:13

@luchonacho well, if you buy a 500GB.

@luch

the link I sent is an internal SSD

edwinksl

@cl-netbox don't think he/she did that, probably didn't know our own @Serg wrote it :P

Serg

haaaaa

and he even posted a link to omgubuntu article

cl-netbox

@Serg Hello famous man ... SIR ! :D

Serg

Not exactly famous, but hello

:)

I knew it's going to show up in omgubuntu eventually

luchonacho

@Orphans Thanks. Will take a look. Did you recommend Samsung for any reason or it's the one that just came up?

Serg

13:17

How did they even find me though ?

terdon

@edwinksl Sadly, they're not actually answers. They just give a link to Serg's github page.

cl-netbox

@Serg without any joke ... you really did a great job with that thingie ! :)

Serg

@cl-netbox thanks. It was really fun to make it too

cl-netbox

@Serg : You even made it into a PPA -> webupd8.org/2016/08/switch-between-multiple-lists-of-apps.html !!! :)

terdon

Yeah, @Serg since those three questions are now closed in favor of this one (thanks, by the way, @JacobVlijm), you might want to post an answer showcasing your script.

cl-netbox

13:21

@Serg as I always say : one of the greatest scripters of AU ... our Serg ! :)

Serg

@terdon yeah, that's probably a good idea, before people start spamming with more links. . . . .

cl-netbox

Hi terdon ! :) Good afternoon ! :)

Orphans

@luchonacho Well, you can take a look at vendors like Adata, Kingston, Crucial etc. I do have a Samsung SSD in one of my laptops but I can't the any performance difference between the vendors actually. I sent the link to a samsung SSD because I thought that you would recongnize the name of it, and therefore feel more secure about the answer I provided

terdon

Hey cl-netbox

luchonacho

@Orphans Clear then! thanks! will try that.

Serg

13:25

@terdon the link however asks different question from what my indicator does though. There's another question that may be more suitable for my indicator.

anyway, I'll figure this out in a minute

terdon

@Serg Hmm. Yes, I guess you're right.

Serg

HA, I found Ian

Zacharee1

2

Jacob Vlijm

13:51

@terdon you're welcome! I ran into it.

Rinzwind

boxy!

stop stuffing feathers up serg >:-D

Serg

OK, I've added an answer to this : askubuntu.com/q/118332/295286

@Rinzwind What else I could stuff up ? I've ran out of snacks :D

Jacob Vlijm

@Serg excellent post to post it on.

Serg

14:07

@JacobVlijm yup, that post is quite suitable for what OP asks. Pity is that OP won't come back to accept any post there

Rinzwind

@Serg cannonballs!

Jacob Vlijm

@Serg ...but it still is the best answer to the question, it will gain it's votes

Serg

14:20

omg people already discussing it with fiery passion in the comments

edwinksl

lol that comes with popularity

Rinzwind

@Serg if that is your audience I wish you luck >:-D

Serg

^_^ ' ' '

It's just the way people work - some like one set of features, others don't

jokerdino

14:35

You might consider making a PPA or something

Serg

yeah, that would be good . . . I need to learn to make deb packages and PPAs first

edwinksl

@jokerdino wait i just noticed you are back to the one and only jokerdino (even with the correct avatar)

jokerdino

@edwinksl lol I actually had a dino-joker gravatar before this one.

@Serg unpack webupd8 PPA and figure it out?

Anwar

@Serg how do i run it? double clicking did nothing. from terminal a blank screen

Serg

@Anwar are you on Unity first of all ?

Anwar

14:41

yeah. of course!

lol

jokerdino

Are you using Ubuntu really?

Serg

OK, so from the directory you're in, run this command : python3 launcher-list-indicator

It will start

Anwar

@jokerdino why the doubt?

jokerdino

Did you turn your computer on?

Serg

@Anwar by the way, did you allow running the file as application from the right click menu in the file manager ?

Anwar

14:43

nah. I'm using it without turning on

jokerdino

@Anwar Thought so!

Anwar

Good

nothing appeared!

I've installed several DE here. may be that's creating problem.

Serg

This article gave me a good idea . . .I might want to add a way to refresh the config file

Just in case anyone needs inspiration, here's some jacksepticeye youtube.com/watch?v=BJPc49z57bU

Nathan Osman

15:01

Every few weeks I get a private email from someone asking if I can backport CMake 3.5 to Trusty.

I practically have a pre-written response now :P

Serg

@NathanOsman are you even the maker of CMake ?

Speaking of weird emails, a few days a go there was a guy asking me for work, basically he listed shiz ton of programming languages there

paste.ubuntu.com/23093462

That's the text ^

edwinksl

"I would like to talk with you in detail about the project in Skype."

"Nope, if you use Skype, I am not talking with you."

Serg

@Rinzwind so, how do you want me to make it work for each workspace ? I am just currious what's your vision there

Nathan Osman

@Serg no, just a maintainer of one of the most popular CMake PPAs.

Serg

oh, that explains it

Nathan Osman

15:15

If the questions keep up, maybe I will try to backport some of the dependencies.

It all boils down to time.

Severus Tux

15:32

hello everyone :)

Serg

Hi

Anwar

hi

Severus Tux

Hi :) nice avatar

Anwar

thanks

edwinksl

@SeverusTux long time no see

Severus Tux

15:40

yeah :) holidays...studies...projects...

nice to see you all :)

edwinksl

15:57

@SeverusTux good to see you back in action

Severus Tux

what did I miss ?

thanks :)

actually.. not much action

;P

Using only arch Linux from past 2 months. so.. less questions to ask and less answers..

@edwinksl

edwinksl

the area 51 proposal for arch is dead btw

Severus Tux

:( yeah

Serg

@SeverusTux you missed my indicator for Unity :D

Severus Tux

what indicator ? link..

Serg

16:00

@SeverusTux omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/08/…

Severus Tux

Ohwwow...

on OMGUbuntu!

nice :) congratulations

Serg

and on webupd8 too !

thanks

I'm really excited abou this

Severus Tux

wow! ppa... nice

Serg

@SeverusTux well, not mine. It belongs to webupd8 owner. But eventually I'll make my own

so far i only have github

Severus Tux

I wish I gets selected to main repos

defaults

*It

webupd8 is well trusted. Could you please give me link to source code ? @Serg

Serg

16:10

@SeverusTux sure, here it is github.com/SergKolo/launcher-list-indicator

sorry, i am having breakfast :D

Rinzwind

@serg when you change viewport change launcher to a new launcher. Nothing fancy

Severus Tux

Hi Rinzy :)

Serg

@Rinzwind and you want it to have a specific profile to be assigned to specific viewport ?

Rinzwind

Hey on mobile at sushi restaurant

Serg

i mean, profile from indicator . . .

@Rinzwind cuz jacob already has this . . . askubuntu.com/a/608295/295286

Rinzwind

16:19

@serg hnmm you could match workspace name probably?

-- viewport :P

Serg

Yeah, im thinking of making like a menuentry where you like connect each profile to viewport , click OK , and it will run

it should call a GUI with drop down boxes

Rinzwind

Is it possible to switch from a gesture? That would be even more universal

Serg

@Rinzwind what do you mean by gesture ?

I can make scroll action. Middle click action is already taken for "save current"

Rinzwind

Like go left up right with mouse and the it would go to the next launcher

Serg

eh . . . never seen anything like this done, so probably no

edwinksl

16:23

@Rinzwind sushi again lol

Rinzwind

Every week @edwinksl

edwinksl

@Rinzwind good stuff

you are truly a sushi fanatic

Rinzwind

Na the view is very good

3 sisters run it

Serg

I see

@Rinzwind hopefully 3 Japanese sisters?

Rinzwind

INope Chinese

edwinksl

16:26

it is rare to see a lot of japanese running japanese restaurants outside japan

it is almost invariably the chinese

Rinzwind

Yes and Koreans

Serg

Mmmm, i approve

Rinzwind

Japanese consider it an insult working in a restaurant in Europe

Terrance

Really? Someone upvoted a Windows question here? askubuntu.com/q/817160/231142

Rinzwind

Is there anywhere a Japanese town like China town? Or Korea town?

edwinksl

16:30

@Rinzwind San Francisco has a Japantown

New York City has a Koreatown

Rinzwind

There commented

If

SF has one? Cool

edwinksl

yup my favorite part of SF

Terrance

When I go back to SF, I am going to have to visit that. Especially take my oldest son since he is infatuated with Japanese culture. =)

Rinzwind

I watch anime daily . All the fantasy and sci-fi series at least

Terrance

Anime is cool. When I was younger it was Robotech (Harmony Gold version) that got me into it. =)

edwinksl

16:34

@Terrance :) think you and your kids will like it. to be clear, it is not super immersive, but it has a lot of jap things and food

Mudit Kapil

very tired of day's work

Terrance

@edwinksl Cool! Thank you for the advice! =)

Rinzwind

I started with the gutter and Laura

Eh

Serg

Denver supposedly used to have large Japanese community but i don't see it. There's lots of Chinese and Korean folks. Vietnamese are like 3rd most common group.

Rinzwind

Wtf

A k I r a

It automatically changed that to Laura

Serg

16:36

@MuditKapil come relax with us

@Rinzwind and that's why i dont use autocorrect

edwinksl

@Terrance then again, if you are going to be in SF, then you could also fly across the pacific and visit japan itself :P

Terrance

@edwinksl Good point! :) Probably cheaper for me to visit SF though. ;)

Serg

@Rinzwind so is it OK if we do it as scroll action ? hover over indicator and scroll , it will go to next profile with each scroll

cl-netbox

16:58

@SeverusTux Hello my friend - nice to see you ... has been some time since I saw you here ... in case you wanna use the indicator from @Serg - ask him to rewrite it for arch ... :)

Jacob Vlijm

@Serg maybe we should merge the lswitcher and your launcher profiler into a new launchpad project?

Serg

@JacobVlijm that could be a thing :)

@A.B. hey, good friend ! Nice seeing you in chat again

@cl-netbox it doesn't have to be arch - as long as the user has Unity, it will work :)

Terrance

@A.B. \o

A.B.

17:28

@Serg @Terrance \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/

Terrance

@A.B. Welcome back! =)

A.B.

Thx @Terrance :)

How are you guys?

Terrance

@A.B. I am doing well. Just working away! :) How are you?

A.B.

great, I love my job :)

and Docker is greaaaaaaat =)

Serg

@A.B. Yeah, Docker is pretty cool. I've used it a bit on my raspberry, nothing fancy though

A.B.

17:38

In the meantime I have three servers, one is only a docker registry.

Terrance

Not using Docker yet, but I am really wondering if I need it.

A.B.

I have dockerized postgres, mariadb, moodle, gitlab, wordpress, humhub and so on

GitLab is the CI system

hey and mediadrop, mediagoblin :)

Serg

Sigh . . . . People apparently like monochrome icons for some reason

I'll probably add an option to let them use their own icon

A.B.

@Serg link?

Serg

@A.B. to what?

A.B.

17:48

your app :)

> I'll probably add an option to let them use their own icon

Serg

github.com/SergKolo/launcher-list-indicator

@A.B.

I've more apps there, check my full profile

A.B.

github.com/SergKolo/magic-button-indicator is empty!!! :)

Serg

@A.B. yes, I still haven't finished it. It basically will be a click app. Middle click once, launches one app, middle click twice - launches another

IanC

18:54

afternoon!

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