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Videonauth

16:06

is there an SE site for hardware recomments ?

askubuntu.com/q/794364/522934 OT <--

edwinksl

this one? hardwarerecs.stackexchange.com

Videonauth

@edwinksl thank you

@terdon the question has found an answer :) askubuntu.com/questions/794262/…

terdon

16:23

Apparently not. Damn.

That looked promising.

edwinksl

OP has kept on adding irrelevant details askubuntu.com/questions/791504/…

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: convert openwrt rules to ubuntu 14

I have the following rule for openwrt firewall & network. Can anyone convert this to ubuntu 14? from /etc/config/firewall (openwrt) to ubuntu 14 command line: config ipset option name 'domain-filter-ipv4' option match 'dest_net' ...

Videonauth

Uhhhmmmm --->

I guess "No action needed"

edwinksl

lol

Jacob Vlijm

@edwinksl doesn't look sane to me...

edwinksl

16:34

@JacobVlijm i agree... tons of supernatural things in that post

Videonauth

@edwinksl Sorry I'm not allowed to look at that, i lost my tinfoil hat

edwinksl

@Videonauth i can give you one ;)

Videonauth

I don't think I should really do that. My answer should've been consist of 13 symbols but as long as the required minimum is 30 I've already spent a decent amount of time to concoct the other 17. — user619271 1 min ago

im speechless

--> askubuntu.com/a/794000/522934

edwinksl

/facepalm

Videonauth

well i didn't down-vote it the first moment only commented, now he has a down-vote

Hashirama Senju

16:48

https://wn.nr/3trALg
There an international is a giveaway of OnePlus 3 :)

edwinksl

@Videonauth looks like the OP deleted his answer after terdon commented on it

terdon

@Videonauth I converted it to a comment and left him a comment explaining that we want more comprehensive answers here.

@edwinksl ^^

edwinksl

oh so that was the diamond's doing

Videonauth

@terdon ah ok, well i wasnt sure what to answer on this comment anyways lol

should have made a screenshot for gems

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: Booting issue with Asus and ubuntu upgrade

I am upgrading from Ubuntu 15.10 everything was going fine then the screen went black and then I got the UBUNTU loading screen. It's been stuck there. When I turn it off and turn it back on I get something like this: fsck from util-linux 2.26.2 /dev.sda2: recovering journel /dev/sda2: clean, 1...

linux ubuntu

terdon

16:52

Ah, that one is coming here.

Videonauth

ok you should give the user a hint that he might need an account here too :) its only grey avatar

terdon

@Videonauth If I understand correctly, that will happen automatically when they next visit the site.

Videonauth

ah ok :) i cant say really im on so many SE sites meanwhile :) mostly reading tho

terdon

I think they just need to use the same credentials (openID provide) to log in.

edwinksl

17:20

good username xD askubuntu.com/users/564231/truen00b

Videonauth

18:09

hey hey @Serg and me are so good were getting copied lol --> enmimaquinafunciona.com/pregunta/40074/…

even translated :p

on the other side someones using my nick -.-

grrrrr

edwinksl

videonauth is a pretty unique nick i imagine

Videonauth

yes it is

edwinksl

look at PR btw :D

Videonauth

most stuff on the first 5 search pages on google is about me only very few other hits

Serg

18:36

@Videonauth people copy askubuntu a lot just to get traffic for their own copycat site, it's all about ad revenue

Videonauth

yes guessed so

Serg

At least they've had decency to translate it :)

I need to decide where to go with my mom for my birthday O_o

edwinksl

o_O

user136984

19:03

Please VTC this question as only relevant to certain time frame.

Videonauth

@ParanoidPanda as you wish

Serg

@ParanoidPanda what time frame is that ?

1971 ?

user136984

@Serg: No, when Shumway was active. They only killed it recently.

Byte Commander

¡Hola chicas!

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Q: Is enmimaquinafunciona.com allowed to provide ServerFault questions in Spanish?

I just spotted the site http://www.enmimaquinafunciona.com/ and it seems to contain only translations of Server Fault posts to Spanish. Are they allowed to do this or should Stack Exchange take action to stop them?

support

@Videonauth They claim I only have around 9k points! Hey! :P

Like here: enmimaquinafunciona.com/pregunta/45387/…

Videonauth

19:26

yeah and i have 1440 :p

LIARS !!!!

Byte Commander

Okay, that was it. Let's take them down! >:D

Serg

i can't find myself there . . .

Videonauth

sure you can

@Serg enmimaquinafunciona.com/pregunta/40074/…

roll down

Serg

17.6k ??? that doesnt seem right

i had much more when i iposted

Byte Commander

@Serg @Videonauth Probably a few k of our points were lost in translation...

Videonauth

19:38

:p

well they provide links to the authors but i dont see any atribution remainder

grooveplex

Is this right? askubuntu.com/questions/794432/…

Byte Commander

@Videonauth And who ensures that the content is still the same after the translation. There might be huge misunderstandings now and they attribute that to me - I don't like that!

Videonauth

as far i clicked through the dupe answers links they miss an seesntial part there and with this dont follow the license given for using SE content

169

A: Is it legal to copy Stack Overflow questions and answers?

Stack Overflow is licenced under Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Generic, which states: Attribution — You must attribute the work in the manner specified by the author or licensor (but not in any way that suggests that they endorse you or your use of the work). I think it is pretty clear that t...

btw if you wanna find more pages who copycat put my name in google search

you will be surprised

grooveplex

@ByteCommander can you help me by telling me if this is right askubuntu.com/questions/794432/…

Videonauth

@grooveplex seems about right, but im not 100% sure so dont nail me down on it

grooveplex

19:47

@Videonauth okay thx but I don't know if it's clear enough that I don't want to scare the OP away

But okay.

And I also voted to close this as primarily opinion-based

Well, I flagged it

Because the only people who really know this are people who work for M$

and they're probably not allowed to discuss this publicly

askubuntu.com/questions/794432/… Wait what

Not doing a 'free Windows upgrade' doesn't mean I didn't use my 'common sense'

Videonauth

common sense is to switch to Linux .... and only this is common sane sense

Byte Commander

@grooveplex I see nothing that looks incorrect to me (that doesn't have to mean anything though)

edwinksl

20:03

looks like the post has been deleted lol

after many negative comments

grooveplex

Woohoo!

Byte Commander

@Videonauth Do you see any license notes on that Spanish site? If not, we can report it to SE.

Videonauth

well i cant portugeese what i think it is, or spanish but i dont see any so far

@ByteCommander nope as far i can see not

Byte Commander

Okay, I'll use the contact form to report that site. Let's see what happens.

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When scrolling down, the "this question has been deleted" bar is partially hidden under the Ubuntu navigation bar: I think the z-index ordering should be done in such a way that the yellow popup bar shows up above the Ubuntu navbar, not below it. This is somewhat related to Menu bar is coverin...

bug design top-bar

Byte Commander

20:31

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CC @Videonauth ^

Videonauth

@ByteCommander Ah cool , at least they will have a look at it

btw github.com/Videonauth/passgen/blob/master/passgen.py

user136984

Did you know that Donald Trump is shown in the Home Alone 2 movie (don't ask why I was watching that video, just got really bored)? :D

Byte Commander

@Videonauth Btw I also added a few features to mine: github.com/ByteCommander/PasswordGenerator :)

Videonauth

hehehe i start the other way around but have nearly a similar functionality just without the interactive dialog, but for that it will get a GUI

what im working on is in fact the library for the GUI module

Byte Commander

20:47

You chose a strange way to evaluate the flags though...

try:
    for i in results.flags:
        if results.flags.count(i) > 1:
            raise ValueError("Flags can occur only once in the statement!")
    count = 4
    for i in ["d", "l", "p", "s"]:
        if i not in results.flags:
            count -=1
    if count < 1:
        raise ValueError("No valid flags given!")

Why don't you just add an optional parameter per flag instead of making them arguments to the -f parameter?

And even if not, you could simply replace the above with this (ignoring multiply entered flags though):

if len(set(results.flags)) == 0: raise ValueError("No valid flags given!")

Videonauth

and what if i give instead od dlps lets say hjkm

then len would be 4

but no valid flag at all and my programm would bug out with div by zero

but making it single options instead of a string i can take into consideration for the cleanup period for the next release

Byte Commander

Right, then add this check:

if any(flag not in "dlps" for flag in results.flags): raise ArgumentError("Invalid flags given!")

Videonauth

21:03

any or all ?

Byte Commander

any.

If you use all here, it would only raise the exc. if all flags are invalid.

Videonauth

thats what i want iin fact

Byte Commander

I would not silently ignore invalid flags. That seems bad practice to me.

Videonauth

its fine if you only want a password made from puctuation characters then you can pass only p

Byte Commander

Yes, but "p" is a valid flag, so it's fine.

Videonauth

21:05

yeah but any would raise then or not ?

Byte Commander

The second line I gave you is just an additional check that all of the given flags are either d, l, p or s.

It does not enforce that all of those flags must been given, it only enforces that all given flags must be one of this set.

Videonauth

mhmmm

well i took a note about it, in fact copy & pasted the past few chat lines in my NOTES file :)

Byte Commander

:)

I'm always happy to give constructive feedback.

Videonauth

:) I just wonder what it gets in the end ;) maybe systemd II :D

Byte Commander

o.O?

Videonauth

21:10

just kidding

Byte Commander

:D

Videonauth

but i often begin like that and end somewhere else

Byte Commander

Keep me updated where you path takes you this time.

Videonauth

well i guess polishing this python module to a point where it can run alone in cli and provide copy to clipboard functionality, and having a GUI module for it which you can call from dash

this is why i didnt do the values check in the function itself

with the GUI i can limit the inputs to be sane anyways

btw:

Rule of Repair
Developers should design programs that fail in a manner that is easy to localize and diagnose or in other words “fail noisily”. This rule aims to prevent incorrect output from a program from becoming an input and corrupting the output of other code undetected.

one of the 17 rules in the unix philosophy

Byte Commander

Yap.

Sounds right.

Videonauth

21:17

Unix philosophy

The Unix philosophy, originated by Ken Thompson, is a set of cultural norms and philosophical approaches to minimalist, modular software development. It is based on the experience of leading developers of the Unix operating system. Early Unix developers were important in bringing the concepts of modularity and reusability into software engineering practice, spawning a "software tools" movement. Over time, the leading developers of Unix (and programs that ran on it) established a set of cultural norms for developing software, norms which became as important and influential as the technology of Unix...

Byte Commander

:O

those beards...

Videonauth

Byte Commander

close votes pls: askubuntu.com/q/794412/367990

Yeah, I know that cartoon.

Videonauth

so a debian user and a fedora user :p

Byte Commander

You?

Videonauth

21:21

no after that chart im not even an ubuntu user :p

Byte Commander

Me is Ubuntu and Arch, as soon as I have enough time and motivation to finally install it on that notebook again.

Videonauth

BUT i have made a LInux from scratch that is running :)

Byte Commander

Not sure though, should I wear the long beard above the short one or the other way round?

;-)

Videonauth

That rule is good and is often necglected :

Rule of Robustness
Developers should design robust programs by designing for transparency and discoverability, because code that is easy to understand is easier to stress test for unexpected conditions that may not be foreseeable in complex programs. This rule aims to help developers build robust, reliable products.

and this one

Rule of Representation
Developers should choose to make data more complicated rather than the procedural logic of the program when faced with the choice, because it is easier for humans to understand complex data compared with complex logic. This rule aims to make programs more readable for any developer working on the project, which allows the program to be maintained

Last one does simply not exist in the windows c++ world really

There it is meanwhile, put all in classes, what you cant put in classes declare as template of a lambda function

Byte Commander

I only ever touched simple C++ for microcontrollers, no GUI stuff, no Windows API, no MFC, no whatever.

Videonauth

21:27

lucky you ;)

Byte Commander

More close votes: askubuntu.com/q/794400/367990

It would be nice if someone asked an interesting question within today. I still did not earn any point yet... (not asking for votes, just expressing my hope for a good question to appear that I can answer)

Videonauth

well i got a few points today, but still it was low on questions i had an idea of

Byte Commander

Same here.

And Oli's baby noise question is also saturated with votes so I don't get any more from that either...

I'm in the mood for a game of Cards against Humanity now. Anybody else?

JonasCz

@ByteCommander Regarding your comment here - what's the reasoning behind recommending a 32-bit Ubuntu even on a 64-bit CPU ? 64-bit is faster, no ?

Videonauth

In some cases ABI 32 can be faster even than 64-bit processing, but on the overall measurements i have done on thaton windows machines and on linux now as well 64 bit excells in overall speed

I would say the casual user wont see much of a difference nowadays

user136984

21:35

Did you guys here that by 18.04 Canonical will not support any 32-bit ISOs?

user136984

In the next releases they are really going to limit it though even though they won't stop it entirely until then, or at least, that is their deadline.

Videonauth

well i saw that point comming for every OS out there

i have to get my a HDD before that and make me a complete source and package archive for i368 architecture for making crosscompilers etc

JonasCz

But Lubuntu and other lightweight variants will still offer 32-bit ISOs, right ?

user136984

@JonasCz: I don't think so...

user136984

The article I read was slightly unsure on that front, but sounded more like it wasn't sure of the impact on Lubuntu from that, not actually not doing it there.

JonasCz

21:39

I think that makes sense though - The heavier versions of Ubuntu (With Unity, Gnome..) don't run well on anything less than a Core2 duo, so there's no point in supporting 32-bit.

user136984

The article's on OMG! Ubuntu!.

user136984

If you want to read it...

Byte Commander

113

Q: What are the differences between 32-bit and 64-bit, and which should I choose?

What is the difference between 32-bit and 64-bit Ubuntu? I've heard the 64-bit platform performs better and can detect more than 4GB of RAM. Also, while some apps haven't ported to 64-bit yet, ia32-libs lets a 64-bit machine run them. If so, why not promote 64-bit over 32-bit?

cpu-architecture

64bit requires slightly more RAM and provides slightly faster performance in some types of computation.

Now if your RAM is already low and you need your swap quite often in normal use, you would benefit more from lower memory resource requirements than from slightly faster CPU computations.

Therefore 32bit is recommended for 2GB RAM or less while 64bit is recommended for 4GB RAM or more (if supported by the CPU, of course!). The range in between is a grey zone.

JonasCz

@ParanoidPanda Thanks, read it. There's little info though. One interesting comment from there:

> I ave a new Acer (2015) with a 64 bit Atom processor, but a only 32 bit UEFI, so I need a 32 bit build of Ubuntu, I also have 2GB of ram soldered on the motherboard, so I can't upgrade it.

Is that 32bit UEFI still a problem these days ?

@ByteCommander Thanks, that makes it clearer. Didn't really realize than 64bt uses 50% more RAM.

user136984

What does one do about a link-only answer which has been accepted with upvotes?

Byte Commander

21:50

@JonasCz About 50%. That's just a rough number, don't take it as fixed truth, please.

edwinksl

i don't know but as the author of the other answer, i find the situation hilarious

JonasCz

@ParanoidPanda You could edit it

Byte Commander

@ParanoidPanda DV, flag as NAA and comment, but all of that seems to have been done already.

user136984

@ByteCommander: Will the fact that it is accepted mean that it gets removed from the review queue or give it some magic status which means our recommend delete votes won't count?

edwinksl

firefox is awesome in allowing one to overwrite the default backspace action

chrome doesn't allow that, so chrome users are stuck with alt+left arrow

JonasCz

21:53

@ParanoidPanda It will get pushed to the mod queue, and mods will decide what to do with it

user136984

Couldn't we just as the OP (of the question) to accept the other one?

Byte Commander

@ParanoidPanda When in doubt, flag for the mods. I honestly don't know, but I can't imagine that our flags go straight to /dev/null just because OP clicked a button.

@ParanoidPanda Sure you can.

JonasCz

The question itself seems to be a duplicate of askubuntu.com/questions/28284/…

user136984

I haven't been to the link in the link-only answer, is it the same solution as the other answer or a different one?

edwinksl

@ParanoidPanda it is the same solution

there is only one solution

but i got to it reading firefox documentation

user136984

21:57

Ok, then I think asking the OP wouldn't be fine. And explaining that one shouldn't accept such low quality answers, but maybe don't mention that bit actually. They might take offence or something. :D

Byte Commander

@JonasCz Right, voting to close.

edwinksl

i think it is fine, accepting an answer is OP's prerogative and he can choose whatever

RPi Awesomeness

Anyone here have any experience with CUPS servers?

edwinksl

but i agree with @JonasCz that it is a dupe

Videonauth

Not really still having two printers here which i not yet made ready to work :)

Zacharee1

21:59

internetz pls

JonasCz

The link-only answer was also the first answer, and was accepted before the other answer was posted, so I wouldn't blame the OP

Byte Commander

@RPiAwesomeness The only experience I have is with the cups on my cupboard, but I doubt this would be of any interest to you...

Zacharee1

lol

edwinksl

@JonasCz how did you know what time the OP accepted an answer? i am not sure where to look for that info

Videonauth

and i have only experience with mugs and mugshots ;)

edwinksl

22:01

@JonasCz doh, mouserover lol. in any case, OP accepted it after both answers were written

JonasCz

@edwinksl According to the timeline, the OP accepted before the second answer was posted - you can hover over the timestamp to see the exact time askubuntu.com/posts/794341/timeline

edwinksl

@JonasCz both answers were written 7 hours ago, but OP accepted 6 hours ago

Zacharee1

@edwinksl Hovering over it I see 7 hours ago

edwinksl

wut

JonasCz

Yea, you're right, OP accepted when the both answers where already there

You need to look in the timeline for the answer to see the exact timestamp

edwinksl

22:07

i wasn't aware of this timeline thing until now

Zacharee1

whoa

edwinksl

n00b = confirmed

Zacharee1

The Note 7 is going to have an iris scanner

@edwinksl I didn't either :p

Byte Commander

@Zacharee1 Insecure.

Zacharee1

@ByteCommander how are irises insecure? Is someone going to steal my eye?

Byte Commander

22:10

Could be an option if your data is worth enough. You would wish to have written down a password on a post-it note on your fridge instead then.

No, but an iris scanner could be easily tricked with a nice portrait photo of your beautiful visage.

Zacharee1

really

is it that inaccurate?

Videonauth

it only checks 5 points AFAIK

Zacharee1

androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-note-7-iris-scanner-700377

Videonauth

a fingerprint scanner checks about 20

Byte Commander

The only thing that currently is deemed pretty secure is a palm vein scanner.

That was at least the case when I checked last time a few months ago...

user136984

22:24

Still no one have any ideas on this?

user136984

2

Q: Problem submitting .crash file using apport

I have done this many times before and it has always worked so I don't know what the problem is now, I even had a look at this but still can't get it working. virt-manager had a crash, it created a .crash file in /var/crash, but it wasn't convenient at the time to file a report so I cancelled rep...

bug-reporting launchpad apport

user136984

What I will never understand though is why this guy accepted this answer over mine...

edwinksl

@ParanoidPanda no clue about apport :/ as for the question, makes no sense, your answer actually address the tree part of the question

user136984

I wish I could force sanity upon all users!

user136984

>:(

user136984

22:33

Anyway, goodnight! :)

user136984

OPs do crazy things! ;P

edwinksl

night panda

user136984

That's what they're for!

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