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12:00
witcher 3 took 32 GB
gty V takes near 50 GB
why is that actually
because windows programs install their own dependencies independently?
loads of videos and graphic source files
and that comes up to it
wouldn't the same apply to linux
videos and graphics
well for the aaa titles which got converted this applies too
civ 5 takes with all add ony 12 GB
cities skylines is at about 8 Gb
@Videonauth Booting to the Live USB - laptop goes to inittrams. Do you know why?
12:02
takes about 1 gb more on windows on both titles
@vid that's interesting, i am still curious about the significant difference in size for linux vs windows
they all installtheir third party libraries in their own folder, sometimes you find the same library 10 times on your machine
same i think will happen if the snap packages get rolling for linux
while windows had fixed dependencies as well like .NET and visual c runtimes etc rest ist always being a backpack load on the installed software
Asker provided info in an answer, despite having previously edited their own post with more info
@Videonauth I opened the thread here unix.stackexchange.com/questions/290727/… Any idea how to troubleshoot?
@Videonauth good thing you moved from windows to linux eh? :D
12:10
depends actually i use dualboot because i have many games on steam which wont run under linux, and im to lazy to look into wine7playonlinux right now :)
@Masi sadly no
@Videonauth that's very reasonable, games is the only reason for a windows partition :P
Why not a VM
I don't play games, and I think it's been an year or so since booting Windows. Should I just delete it? Or should I keep it for any 'just in case' situations?
@BharadwajRaju why should i put two strains on my machine? running the underlaying linux and the windows will consume already 6 GB ram and i only have 8 so gaminig will become almost a dia show
then rather booting up my previous windows installation and run the games native there
@Videonauth Initrams problem is just associated with the Persistent Live USB.
@Videonauth Not with normal live USB. You have never got such a problem?
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@Serg: Have you set up your Tox profile yet? :)
12:13
@BharadwajRaju don't think using a vm to run a game like civ 5 is a good idea :)
posted on June 19, 2016 by Masi

I did some mistake in /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/us so keyboard does not work at the login. Starting my Live USB goes to Initrams. I cannot get to Grub so not to recovery mode because Macbook Air. Alt at the startup lets me choose which disc to boot only. Connecting external keyboard - no lights on it, even, not working at the login. System accepts only button

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Q: Why are software recommendations on topic?

Andrea Lazzarotto Background: this question originates from a flag I raised and that was recently denied. The question asked about an alternative to a Windows software. This topic has been discussed previously but the answers there do not seem any reasonable to me. Maybe they were in the past, before the Soft...

@masi i never experienced a problem like yours and i never hat a problem with my live USB stick before either, so im really really clueless how to provide help for you
@byt o/
12:21
How to run sudo in normal live USB?
I do sudo cat file > file2 but I get permission denied.
cat file | sudo tee -a outfile
or if you as well need sudo to cat the file put a sudo in front as well
or you use a subshell sudo bash -c '( cat infile > outfile )'
or you simply use copy .... sudo cp infile outfile
@Videonauth that youtube video is not even related to ubuntu lol
it was rather entertaining nonetheless
@Videonauth sudo cp infile outfile gives Permission denied.
@Videonauth sudo bash -c ... does not work.
@Videonauth How to do it as root? I can go root but I cannot then mount and find the file there.
ok I apparently found something
How to find live session's file on Desktop in root?
Found /home/ubuntu/...
Done!
Root is the only thing which works here. The problem with persistent live ubuntu is with Apple's hardware.
It works elsewhere great but Apple sucks often. I think you need to make specific USB stick for Apple for such cases.
I think we do it if we have the time
the OP can always edit your translation if he/she doesn't think it is a good translation
i had the time, but that comment is meaningless for me really
how does it offer an improvement?
i will just ignore the comment
The Google-translated version is near-nonsense, by the way
Any French speakers?
@Bakuriu well, this is not stack overflow, and here we do that if we have the time as it helps others to understand and react on it properly if it goes into review queue. Also I don't see any improvement on it if it was left as it is. — Videonauth 1 min ago
12:47
@vid yeah SO is stricter about the english language thing than AU is
yes i can understand that because SO is a massive community
and also it is true that english is the de facto language for writing code
while AU deals with more than just scripting issues
@StefanoPalazzo can i bring a little cleaning job to your attention? The comments here could use a little cleaning love askubuntu.com/questions/788573/…
I already transferred the comment editions to the question
13:06
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Q: Why changing One Line in Xkb complicates?

MasiI do which just add a ralt_switch to English(Dvorak-US) keyboard sudo sed -i "249i\ include 'level3(ralt_switch)'" \ /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/us sudo dpkg-reconfigure xkb-data Restart and you get a non-functional keyboard at login where you cannot type anything. You have to fix...

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Q: Baby-sitting bash script using DVD drive

user3620828This is the script I wrote to make an automated POC baby-sitter in 5 lines. I first found this on a GIF or meme site and thought of making a POC script that does the same. #How Linux users babysit while : do eject eject -t done I don't know aything about bash. So, I want improvemen...

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thats worth a star lol
He just posted it on 4 channels
He's sitting on a chat suspension for a bit
@JourneymanGeek oh didn't know that im just linger around in this room :)
I popped the ones on SR and DMZ
13:17
i mean the script itself is a hilarious idea :)
dat meme doe
creates compatibility between baby buggys and linux
QUite
posting a question on multiple channels... without any context seems.. spammy
and I've never seen him on root access before
@JourneymanGeek you are in too many chats man
13:21
classic kiasu sillyporean
Anyone mess around with exagear? Got the general arm one to try running 32bit programs on my Ubuntu phone
@edwinksl you complain too much
This is the install script running: paste.ubuntu.com/17536658
@edwinksl lets see, SU x2 and AU, security (cause I'm technically a forensics person, even if my last job was tech support) the comms room (Used to be there to learn system admin stuff by osmosis) SR, cause I used to be a mod there, the the rec centre since I'm the #1 user on hardware.se
@jokerdino national hobby, i am sure you understand
@JourneymanGeek that's quite the number of chats
13:34
Some of them are quiet
and some typically explode when I sleep
Then this suggests an error in the preinstall script
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Q: dpkg: new pre-installation script returned error exit status 1

Petteri HietavirtaI ended up dealing with a software meant to be deployed using dpkg. The .deb package works fine on the test env but fail on staging. Both are running the same version of Ubuntu but I am not 100% sure of the rest of the configs. How to debug this dpkg issue further? The installation fails like th...

And this is the preinstall script
@Videonauth I do sudo cat outfile > /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/us in root (sudo -i) in live system. Is it correct?
For some reason, it does not work now second time.
13:56
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Q: How to Restore Xkb of Ubuntu in Live USB?

MasiI do sudo -i root@ubuntu~# sudo cp /home/ubuntu/Desktop/file /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/us Output: no change. Expected result: replacement of the file. This method worked first time but not anymore. Doing gedit .../us shows the original file, not the new one. 3rd iteration i.e. 3rd start...

Hello and good afternoon Cristiana
Baby sitting scrypt ? I use to joke with my friends that a good mobile phone walks your dog!
Looks like I am not the only one.
Although there is a delay of ~2 seconds between ejects on my system
What if 'ejecting' a USB drive would physically throw it out of the computer?
That'd be hilarious
I'm thinking of making a Rube Goldberg machine that automates something out of that script
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@ByteCommander: Thanks for the great answer by the way! :)
14:12
@Videonauth I translated it
thank you
so i wasn't the only one thinking this
@Videonauth No, Bakuriu was being an ass. If you want to provide a translation, you are free to do so. It's just never expected or required. It is the OP's responsibility to post in English, but anything you do that improves the content available on the site is a good thing.
Sure, it would have been better if the posts were originally posted in English but that doesn't mean you're wrong to fix it.
just sad i have no skills in french, iso i was only able to provide a google translation
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Does anyone know how to get started with making a Firefox add-on?
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What language are they in? JS or something?
14:19
That said, @Videonauth, it is usually not worth the effort to translate. You could just flag as NAA. I sometimes translate if I happen to speak the language well enough to do so easily, but I won't go out of my way if I don't.
well providing the google translation took me about 4 seconds
but i guess French isn't one of google translators strengths
@ParanoidPanda XUL for UI and JS for code
@Videonauth Nothing is. Google translate, like all automatic translators, is only good enough to give you a vague idea of what the text means. It always produces crappy translations.
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14:36
@BharadwajRaju: Ah, thanks! :)
@ParanoidPanda I must thank you for the great question :)
@ParanoidPanda you might also want to look into gpm. That lets you use the mouse in the tty and you can select->middle click to paste.
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14:55
@terdon: Yes, I know about that, even did a Q&A on it once or similar I seem to remember! Just it's not working on Xenial for me for some reason so can't use it for this.
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@ByteCommander: Ah, what are pandas for? ;D
:D
Saving mankind from bamboo with world domination plans maybe?
15:13
Where is the original /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/us file online?
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Oh my god... Facepalm... I nearly sent something to someone where my auto-correct had turned the word "Possessive" to "Perversive"... :D
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And I was complaining about their grammar so that would not have looked good... :D
#FirstWorldProblems
@Videonauth Can you run apt-get commands for broken Ubuntu with Live USB?
@Videonauth I need this command sudo apt-get install --reinstall xkb-data for my broken installation. I am now in Live USB.
@Masi Mine, on PasteBin: pastebin.com/NFUKpC5b
15:23
@BharadwajRaju Thank you! I hope it does the same, than running the reinstall thing.
@BharadwajRaju Still broken. I replaced the file. But my keyboard is still without response. I think I have to be able to run the sudo apt-get ...
@Videonauth Do you know how?
chrott is your answer
You can chroot ito your installation from the live system.
@Videonauth What is that?
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When is that guy asking about software-recommendations ever going to give up?
@ByteCommander Can you give a workflow?
15:28
sudo mount -o remount,rw /dev/sdX
@Masi Yes. Use the proceedure in section 3 of my answer here: unix.stackexchange.com/a/112358/22222
What after chroot?
Once you've set up the chroot, run your apt command.
After chroot, just run that sudo apt-get ... command
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Why can't he just get the idea of a more generalised site and a more specialised one and that they can both share on-topic things?
15:30
@terdon thnks saves me a lot of typing :)
@Masi The "Update Failure" section of that site should describe all necessary steps. help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery
@ParanoidPanda You're joking, right? You have 43 separate questions asking for software recommendations!
Sorry man, but I am not the same as that other guy.
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@terdon: No, I am not joking... I think maybe you misunderstood me though because I'm arguing for them being on-topic, not off-topic...
@ParanoidPanda Ah, OK. I thought you were complaining about someone who kept asking software-req questions.
Which seemed passing strange coming from you :)
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15:36
@terdon: No, I'm having an argument with someone on Meta... :D
@terdon I get mount: /dev/sda1 is write-protected, mounting read-only
when trying sudo chroot /mnt/foo
ok solved; I need to be in TTY1
doing again
What is default ubuntu username and password in live ubuntu?
ubuntu and empty password
It does not work
ok it works
Hello friends :D
I get also the same error "write-protected, mounting read-only" in TTY1 @terdon
Do you know how to proceed now?
Ok, solved, wrong portion; verified by lsblk
15:47
sounds reasonable
Oh... man :( I didn't know this :'( . As told by some friends, I think Severus Tux is batter than Vishwa, but I cant change it back now :(
@jokerdino Could you help me ? (I wont change it again. ever)
@Vishwa I think you can, there's just a time limit.
Just wait a while and you'll be able to.
30 days
15:50
@ParanoidPanda helped you out.
@terdon I cannot get internet in TTY1. Only USB tethering possible with Macbook Air.
@terdon Cannot fix anything without internet.
@terdon Thats the real problem. "30 days" omg ! , by then everyone will know me as Vishwa. Again changing to severustux will mess up everything.
@Masi Huh? Why? If you have internet in the GUI, you should have it at the tty too.
@terdon I have internet in GUI, but it does not work in TTY1.
@Vishwa Done.
15:52
@terdon Do you have any idea why?
@jokerdino Wow!! :D :D thankyou very much :)
@Masi none, doesn't make sense to me.
It's your one time offer. Don't expect.
Can't you use an ethernet cable?
@jokerdino :D I wont change it again.
15:54
Ah, hang on. @Masi do you not have internet in the TTY in general or only in the chroot environment? And why are you using a tty anyway? You can do all this from a terminal emulator in the GUI
Audio isn't working :( how do I troubleshoot it?
@terdon No.
I have no adapter for it.
@terdon I did the change in GUI. Thank you! IT worked. Everything back normal now :)
hmm.. its not changing here !
I logged out and in two times
@Masi Yay!
@Vishwa Caching.
ah..
okay
15:59
$ cat .config/pulse/efbf8b851382bd3778f1cc7654a81191-default-sink
alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1b.0.analog-stereo
$ cat .config/pulse/efbf8b851382bd3778f1cc7654a81191-default-source
alsa_input.pci-0000_00_1b.0.analog-stereo
@SeverusTux No, wait. I changed something, try again.
There you go.
Yay :D it changed now :D
Ah tuxie is back :)
@SeverusTux
How do I fix my audio?
16:00
what did you do ? @terdon
@AaronHall we don't know, we have no idea what's going wrong. Ask a question on the main site, explaining the problem. Tell us if it is new and what changed. Tell us if your audio works from a live system or another OS. Tell us what hardware you have. Mention if it works when using headphones or not.
Hi Video man :P
@SeverusTux Magic mod stuff
nearly-a-mod stuff
Ah... I thought only guys with wands could do magic ;P
16:02
Well it's worked forever. It's just stopped working. Advice here doesn't work: askubuntu.com/questions/462503/… But I haven't rebooted...
@SeverusTux I suppose you could do magic, too., Severus <s>Tux</s> Snape
Headphones don't work, speakers don't work.
@AaronHall OK, put all that in your question.
@BharadwajRaju No, mod stuff. I'm already a mod, just not here. All SE mods are chat moderators as well. That's why my name is blue.
Yeah ;P , But guys with diamond can do better magics ;)
@SeverusTux What is that ? Changed your name again ? :D
16:04
Can you download .patch of dvorak-de.diff from Github? Here gist.github.com/sergeykish/650839#file-dvorak-de-diff
@cl-netbox See ? magic :P
Hello :)
It's this kind of advice that makes me want to switch to debian.
@SeverusTux Hello ! :)
@SeverusTux Your name itself is a reference to magic
the advice to ask a question?
16:05
You're encouraging dependency, and I just want to learn how to troubleshoot my Linux myself.
I don't want the answer, I want to learn how to get the answer.
hehe :D
@AaronHall As if we never explain procedures in our answers
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@terdon: Ah, I see, yes, thank you. :)
Oh, and trust me, the Debian Forums are a lot less friendly.
@AaronHall Great. Ask for that then. Chat is not for technical support. Primarily because if we help you out here only you benefit, while if you post a question every user on the site. both current and future would benefit.
16:07
@BharadwajRaju This guy can do even better magic : albus-dumbledore
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I need to just test something, someone please ping me. :)
@ParanoidPanda
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Thanks
I any case, I can't help you since I don't know much about sound. I am giving you the only help I can: directing you to the right place to get help. @AaronHall
@ParanoidPanda
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16:07
Right, ping me again.
@ParanoidPanda @ParanoidPanda @ParanoidPanda @ParanoidPanda
@terdon pretty much this @AaronHall. We do some technical support here but most of the time we will tell you to ask a question. Asking how to troubleshoot something is perfectly acceptable :)
OK, here you go: @ParanoidPanda
Chat doesn't lend well to troubleshooting and fixing complex problems..
but maybe, if you ask nicely and he is around, @Takkat could point you in a few directions
Takkat is the man.
But it's weekend and he is probably jacuzzing around.
16:10
Takkat is the power (you'll get this if you can speak Hindi)
@jokerdino I want a jacuzzi.
Ah... @BharadwajRaju ताकत्
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Testing...
@Seth Who doesn't?
@jokerdino Cats.
16:13
All the more reason to get jacuzzi.
lol
I'd settle for a pool right now. It's around 35 degrees Celsius and muggy outside. And it's 19:15!
do I just need to, like, read debian docs instead of ubuntu?
@AaronHall Shouldn't be much difference in this.
ok, looks like I'm already learning. thanks!
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16:24
@terdon @jokerdino @Seth: This reminds me of a quote from Raj:
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> Oh yeah. The guy who lives next to me is always like, I have a jacuzzi on my balcony, I have a jacuzzi on my balcony. But wait until I tell him, I've got a time machine on my balcony. Stuff that in your speedos, Jacuzzi Bob!
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:D
o_O
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From the US sitcom "The Big Bang Theory", don't tell me you haven't heard of it?
I've heard of it.
16:35
guess what, reboot fixed it.
@AaronHall that doesn't count as fixing thats a windows fixing method ;D
:D
I still don't know how audio works. :(
@AaronHall It's complicated.
Ask Lennart Poettering.
^^^^ I'm going to read this first.
@AaronHall Few people do. It's one of those things that for some reason I've never understood is ridiculously complicated on Linux.
anybody know how can I get details about my webcam ? I already tried lspci , sudo lshw , dmidecode .
Nowhere mentioned O_o
Its working properly . tested it on Cheese. But I don't see its details anywhere.
@cl any Idea ?
@SeverusTux lsusb
If it's a USB cam
Nope :(
Then it should be in lshw, look more closely or post the output somewhere
Its not a usb cam.
ok
16:48
Man, I hate it when it gets so hot my CPU throttles itself. Look what I have to do to be able to use my laptop:
Ah... got it :D
hehehe :D
If I turn off the fan, the CPU gets throttled and everything lags :(
Might be time for fresh thermal paste, I guess
One of my friends, built a setup : Ice cubes in a box, and a small fan above it.
16:52
Liquid cooling?
@terdon How do you upload images to i.stack.imgur.com ?? I usually go to asking Q --> attach the image --> Get the link --> abandon the Q ;P , Same method ?
Its not illegal right ?
@SeverusTux There's an upload button in chat as well.
Oh.. Silly me O_o I totally forgot that
I use the above method to add image links in my comments :D
And if you use shutter for screenshots, it has a button to upload to imgur as well.
That will be i.imgur.com then though, without the stack.
wow :D
I'll try that
17:06
I don't think BBT should be called SitCom anymore.
sudo lshw ... you find it under usbhost ->
*-usb:1
description: Video
product: BisonCam, NB Pro
vendor: Generic
physical id: 8
bus info: usb@3:8
version: 6.05
serial: 200901010001
capabilities: usb-2.00
configuration: driver=uvcvideo maxpower=500mA speed=480Mbit/s
@jokerdino Why? Has something changed? I haven't watched it for a while.
@cl-netbox That's for a USB cam though, right?
@terdon no - built-in (notebook)
@terdon Comedy means funny, right? Yeah nope.
Stopped watching it quite a while back.
@jokerdino Ah well. That describes almost all sitcoms anyway.
17:09
I am more likely to watch Nikita than BBT.
I used to enjoy BBT but I haven't seen any episodes in a couple of years now
I liked IT Crowd. Shame it's over.
Oh? I never really got into that. Watched a few of the first episodes, smiled a couple of times, never laughed. I found the overacting annoying.
Of course, on the matter of interests, it's what I like.
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Q: Required info for Wireless-tagged questions

Android DevI propose that any questions tagged with wireless are REQUIRED to contain the output of: lsusb | grep Wireless #For USB adapters lspci -knn | grep Net -A2 #For built-in adapters As in, unless the system finds lines like, "Output of" in the question, you aren't allowed to post it. An...

I checked it on another notebook : sudo lshw ... built-in webcam information ->
*-usb
Beschreibung: Video
Produkt: Laptop Integrated Webcam
Hersteller: OmniVision Technologies, Inc. -2640-07.07.20.3
Physische ID: 6
Bus-Informationen: usb@2:6
Version: 1.00
Fähigkeiten: usb-2.00
Konfiguration: driver=uvcvideo maxpower=500mA speed=480Mbit/s
@Zacharee1 And when you click 'View Answers', you're redirected to StackOverflow...
Clever name, though -- Forum Array, Stack Overflow
It is a scraper. The link has a no-follow
17:49
Good meowning
Serg Hello! :)
Did anybody notice @kos is missing did he quit askubuntu where is @kos I miss @kos?
@HenryWHHack good morning . kos , like many of us, probably is busy with work outside of AskUbuntu
@Serg Good morning ... aaannnddd ... Goodbye ! :)
So programmer really copy and paste from stackoverflow youtube.com/watch?v=FBi3S97R60k? WOW! :O
Well , hello and good bye , netbox ^_0 My laziness didn't allow me to showup earlier today
17:53
@Serg lazyness ... don't believe a word ... hahaha ... bye Serg - see you my friend ! :)
@Serg tsk tsk tsk ;)
Goodbye all ! :)
@Videonauth printf("Hello Work");
@HenryWHHack Of course. The whole point of SO is to provide answers to programming questions, so of course you'll copy code from it.
@Videonauth I was going to make the same edit for askubuntu.com/questions/789009/…. >:(
17:55
@Serg so what email issue you had with my mail ?
@Videonauth I was having issue with your public key, for the most part it was the same , but in the mail last two lines had "3D" string stuck in few places, so gpg was complaining about that. I had to look it up on launchpad - that one got imported with no issues
I would say you can close this as not reproducible (error caused by dying disk) askubuntu.com/q/788949/367990
Or do you disagree?
@ByteCommander check the edit history :))

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