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Byte Commander

16:00

@Mateo What's that? Why do you post a minesweeper screenshot?

Serg

@Videonauth well, ok , i lists a key . . .gpg --fingerprint lists different fingerprint than in seahorse so that's confusing . . .

Videonauth

mhmmmm

yo you used the key generated by seahorse to register ?

Zacharee1

@ByteCommander he's porting stuff to UT

Mateo

it is an x app running on the mx4 ubuntu phone @ByteCommander ;)

Videonauth

@Serg then you need to export the keys from seahorse into an asc file and import it to gpg

Serg

16:01

@Videonauth ok, how do i do that ?

Mateo

Solitaire works great :)

Serg

i am confused , pretty much

Mateo

but mines didn't resize...

Videonauth

@Serg @ByteCommander should be able to explain that i not use seahorse #

Zacharee1

@Mateo how are you making XP stuff run? WINE?

Byte Commander

16:02

Aaaaha! :)

I once ported minesweeper to a CASIO fx 9750 GII calculator... That was a different kind of work... ;)

Mateo

xdemineur

Videonauth

you guys know that minesweeper poses a seriously problem in mathematics?

Zacharee1

why

Byte Commander

@Videonauth Ok. @Serg open the GPG key pair's properties in seahorse.

Serg

OK, next ?

Mateo

16:04

because you have to guess sometimes ;)

Videonauth

P versus NP problem

The P versus NP problem is a major unsolved problem in computer science. Informally speaking, it asks whether every problem whose solution can be quickly verified by a computer can also be quickly solved by a computer. It was essentially first mentioned in a 1956 letter written by Kurt Gödel to John von Neumann. Gödel asked whether a certain NP-complete problem could be solved in quadratic or linear time. The precise statement of the P versus NP problem was introduced in 1971 by Stephen Cook in his seminal paper "The complexity of theorem proving procedures" and is considered by many to be the...

Byte Commander

Go to "Details" tab.

Click the "Export" button.

@Serg (sorry for delay, unstable wifi.... :-/)

Serg

@ByteCommander where do i export to ?

terdon

@Seth Actually, only 2.5 if we count from the time I started actually being active. Feel free to edit my comment on my nomination page to reflect that if you want. I had miscounted.

Byte Commander

@Serg You get a save-as dialogue. It does not matter where you store the .asc file.

Just place it somewhere nobody else has access to - it's your private key!

Serg

16:06

OK, exported to home dir . what's next ?

Byte Commander

Then later you can gpg --import FILENAME.asc

That should be it. Now you can use the key from gpg.

Serg

@ByteCommander that worked, thank you very much ^_^

ARGV ! I've signed the code, it creates the .asc file and yet an error

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Q: What are the benefits of installing .NET Core RC2 on Ubuntu 16.04?

I read this article, http://donovanbrown.com/post/2016/05/29/Installing-NET-Core-RC2-on-Ubuntu-1604, 10 minutes ago. I was curious what are the benefits of installing .NET Core RC2 on Ubuntu 16.04 versus the status quo where we auto-start Apache Server and XSP on port 9000 at login time. I was...

Videonauth

@Serg did you upload this new imported key to the keyserver ?

Serg

@Videonauth yes, i believe i have

Seth

16:15

sometimes it takes a while for the key to show up though

or update, as it may be.

Byte Commander

@Serg Did you add this key to your launchpad profile?

Serg

@ByteCommander yes , i believe i have

Seth

that was my next question ^

@Serg launchpad profile?

Byte Commander

1 min ago, by Seth

that was my next question ^

;)

Serg

Seth

16:20

@Serg but is that the most recent key?

Nathan Osman

Oh my.

I just saw the news about Orlando.

Serg

@Seth I've no clue, i think i only have one key there

Byte Commander

Yeah, compare whether you signed the CoC with the same key that your registered on LP. Check the IDs or fingerprints.

@NathanOsman What news?

Nathan Osman

It's probably the top story everywhere right now.

Serg

@ByteCommander 20 killed , 40 wounded in Orlando shooting , radical islamist with assault rifle and a handgun

Byte Commander

16:23

Oh.

Nathan Osman

No, no. There are 50 fatalities at least.

The numbers have really climbed.

It's the deadliest shooting in US history.

Serg

wow, damn

Byte Commander

@NathanOsman I do not watch news sites. Too lurid and usually too sad.

Terrance

@NathanOsman It took place at a nightclub in Orlando that was pretty full. Speculation is the shooter had something against gays.

Byte Commander

That probably invalidates the fact that in the US more people are shoot by toddlers than by terrorists...

jokerdino

16:26

Is it night in Orlando?

Terrance

Day time there now

Serg

no day already

Terrance

12:26 PM

terdon

@Serg Do we know that? Last I heard we just knew he had an Muslim-sounding name. How'd we get to "radical Islamist" as opposed to your run-of-the-mill bigot?

Rinzwind

@NathanOsman and now for the 1 million dollar question: is anything going to change regarding gun control in the US?

Terrance

16:27

The problem with gun control in the US is that it takes guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens.

Serg

@terdon that's information released by police and whatever other authorities were working on the spot. In either case, it wouldn't surprise me

terdon

@Rinzwind Sure. Now you're going to be obliged, by law, to be armed when going to night clubs. Because, of course, if everyone there had been armed, the tragedy would have been avoided.

Videonauth

@Rinzwind probably not, the lobby is just to strong

Rinzwind

@terdon more guns does not mean less death. more guns means MORE deaths.

Nathan Osman

@Rinzwind let's not politicize a tragedy just yet.

Rinzwind

16:28

and a follow up questions: if nothing is going to change why the outcry? :-)

Serg

@Terrance problem is not with guns, problem with the society. I've been in China for 3 weeks, walking at night all by myself. Not a single time i got mugged or intercepted by thugs, and there's no such easy way to have a gun there as in the US

terdon

@Rinzwind Yeah, tell that to Trump. He actually made just that suggestion after the Paris shootings. he said that things would have been different if France allowed guns like.

Nathan Osman

We can have this debate some time but now is not the time.

terdon

Bloody idiot.

Not you Nathan!

Rinzwind

yes it is. It is the -only- time you can have this discussion.
well ... maybe not in AU chat but ...

Terrance

16:29

@Serg That is one I understand. All depends on the person. Guns or not, a criminal will still commit crime one way or another.

Nathan Osman

I'm not taking a position, I'm just saying let's wait for more details and give people time to grieve.

Serg

@NathanOsman agreed , but this issue has been going on and on and on and on. How many more shootings do we need in this country ?

terdon

@Terrance Sure. But a toddler is a hell of a lot less likely to kill anyone if there aren't guns in the home. It takes a very special dedication to manage to stab someone when you're smaller than the knife.

Nathan Osman

A rash decision based on raw emotion won't benefit anyone.

terdon

@NathanOsman Oh man, that reminds me of when I tried to treat my skin condition with super glue...

(Let's see if that changes the subject)

Terrance

16:32

@terdon It happened here where a brother killed his adopted brothers with a knife and there were no guns in the home.

Nathan Osman

O_o

terdon

@Terrance Toddler?

Terrance

@terdon Does it matter?

Nathan Osman

Superglue? How'd you get it off?

terdon

@Terrance Yes, I was referring to toddlers specifically.

@NathanOsman Rash decisions...

Serg

16:33

Can we just forget about that toddler crap for a moment ? We're talking about grown up man who walked into a night club and shot up 50 and some more people

and that's not a freakin accident

Nathan Osman

No, it most certainly isn't.

terdon

@NathanOsman And you can safely assume that was an attempt at a joke and not something I ever tried.

Rinzwind

@Serg and wont be the last one.

Nathan Osman

Oh. I thought you were serious!

Serg

@Rinzwind that's the scary part

terdon

16:34

@NathanOsman Good grief! Thanks for the vote of confidence! I was just punning on rash and that was the first thing I came up with.

Terrance

@terdon If you have a toddler in your home and you own guns, they should be locked up in a safe at all times. People that don't show respect for owning weapons are asking for trouble to begin with.

Rinzwind

@Serg don't agree on that one ;-)

Nathan Osman

@terdon we all did really dumb things as a kid.

Rinzwind

@Terrance there should not even be bullets in the gun ...

Nathan Osman

I'm sure...

Terrance

16:35

@Rinzwind One should always assume that there is a bullet in a gun. That is why you never look down the barrel of a gun that you think is empty, etc.

terdon

@Terrance Yeah. Even better if you have a toddler, don't keep a bleedin gun in the house! It's no use for "protection" if it's locked up anyway. Jim Jeffries has a nice skit about that one: youtube.com/watch?v=0rR9IaXH1M0

Rinzwind

@terdon alcoholocaus was amazing

Terrance

@terdon I don't own any guns, but I am not about to take away the freedoms of others to own them at all.

Rinzwind

@Terrance I have one. It is at the shooting range.

terdon

@Terrance Huh? Who said anything about "taking away freedoms"? I'm just talking about common sense: it's not a good idea to have a tool designed for killing stuff in the same environment as a child.

Zacharee1

16:37

Anyone know if it's possible to point DNS records to a hostname?

Rinzwind

@Zacharee1 tsk. go to some other chat >:-D

Zacharee1

or is that a CNAME?

@Rinzwind you guys are talking about guns, at least I'm in the same range as Ubuntu :p

terdon

@Rinzwind I haven't seen that. I've only seen some clips on youtube but I enjoy him a lot.

Terrance

@terdon You sure made it sound like if you have a toddler that you shouldn't own one. If that is a law, then it would be taking away freedoms. To me it is all about responsibility of the person. If you can't be responsible, don't own one.

Rinzwind

@terdon one of the tv channels has 2 of his show running once or twice a week

terdon

16:38

@Terrance I never said anything about law. I, personally, would consider someone who had both a gun and a toddler a person I wouldn't want to have anything to do with. That's me though, I never said it should be legislated. I wouldn't mind if it were, but I doubt it would work. Legislation rarely does.

Seth

You can't legislate morality/

terdon

Unfortunately.

Or fortunately, actually. You shouldn't, anyway.

Zacharee1

whew

Seth

indeed.

well anyway, i'm going to go hike to a waterfall.

ya'll have fun.

terdon

Nice! Have fun!

Rinzwind

16:40

well for the most parts it works in europe.
yes we have shootings. but those are incidents... not the norm, as it seems to be in the US ;-)

Zacharee1

@Seth ya'll have fun too

@Rinzwind sadly, it is the norm :/

Rinzwind

dont jump of it
Or if you meet any of the members of TLC hug'm for me

Zacharee1

We have more shootings in a year than we have days

terdon

@Rinzwind As far as I know, it's legal to own a gun in most countries in Europe if you have a permit. It's just that most people have no desire to own one and choose not to.

Which seems eminently reasonable to me.

Rinzwind

@terdon I have one; it stays at a shooting range. A friend of mine that used to be in the UK service, now living in Holland, has one at home.

Zacharee1

16:41

I have such a complex DNS setup now

Rinzwind

he keeps trying >:-D

terdon

@Rinzwind See? Perfectly legal. Just not considered a point of pride or a fundamental right or anything.

Zacharee1

x-p-w.tk is CNAMEd to xpw.zyns.com, which is a DDNS setup to my DSL modem. mc.x-p-w.tk is CNAMEd to xpw1.zyns.com, which is a DDNS setup to my cable modem.

And that's only two entries

Rinzwind

@terdon yes but ... you aint american >:-D americans go into panic mode when you even try to have a discussion

terdon

@Rinzwind Well, that's what it says on one of my passports :)

Rinzwind

16:43

@Zacharee1 ehm why? :-D I never had to mess with CNAME/DNS for anything here

terdon

And the other is expired so...

Rinzwind

@terdon you aint an american with that stance on guns ;-)

terdon

Nope. And neither, thankfully, is my purebred American Dad.

Zacharee1

@Rinzwind port 80 incoming is blocked on the cable ISP, so I can't use it, but DSL is fine. 25565 isn't blocked on either so I have it on the faster connection. But I can't just point to IPs, because they're both dynamic, AFAIK

terdon

Although, he was american enough to never buy me any gun-like toys as a child: "Firearms are not toys son, here, have a baseball"

Zacharee1

16:45

So I needed a DDNS service for each connection. Luckily, the router is dual-WAN and has built-in support for individual DDNS

Rinzwind

@Zacharee1 I hate your ISP :+) and they probably are dynamic. so hmm yes that would need it

Zacharee1

@terdon Good morning USAAAAAA

Nathan Osman

@Zacharee1 I have a hostname pointed at a dynamic IP address.

Zacharee1

@Rinzwind I think DSL is static, but best to be safe

@NathanOsman I have a hostname pointed to a hostname pointed to a dynamic IP

Rinzwind

@terdon you need to be 21 to vote and can own a gun when you are born. Seems the wrong way around to me.

Zacharee1

16:46

@Rinzwind welcome to the USA

Nathan Osman

@Zacharee1 same. I have a CNAME that points to an A record.

Zacharee1

yesh

Rinzwind

@NathanOsman that sounds more logical ;-)

Zacharee1

But do you have a subdomain of the root domain CNAMEd to another A record? @NathanOsman

terdon

@Rinzwind Even better, you can got into the army at 18 (so you're responsible enough to be given firearms and sent to kill people) but you can't drink until you're 21.

Rinzwind

16:47

@terdon so weird.

Nathan Osman

@Zacharee1 yes.

Zacharee1

@NathanOsman isn't it fun? :D

Nathan Osman

Try running "dig" on home.quickmediasolutions.com

Rinzwind

well.... In england you can drink alchohol from the age of 5...
that seems weird to me too ;-)

Zacharee1

Do you have CloudFlare though? :p

Nathan Osman

16:48

That's not an advantage :D

Wild Man

@terdon I am in the Army in the U.S. and the ago to drink in the Army when I was in was 18, did that change?

Zacharee1

@Rinzwind I hear in a lot of places in the EU people don't even know or care what the drinking age is

terdon

@Rinzwind No you can't. You need to be 16. In Greece, there's no legal drinking age I know of. It's just that nobody will serve you a vodka if you ask for one at 13. We're not that stupid.

Zacharee1

@NathanOsman I use it for the DNS records. I had Dynu, but I decided to do this, since I already have another site managed

Rinzwind

@Zacharee1 true. but there is one thing there: there always needs to be supervision by an adult. and that adult is held responsible.

Zacharee1

16:49

@terdon you aren't?

Wild Man

sorry me darn keyboard is shorting out

terdon

@WildMan You'll know much better than I. I thought the drinking age in the US was 21, is it not?

Zacharee1

>:D

@Rinzwind that makes so much sense

terdon

@Zacharee1 Almost, but not quite.

Zacharee1

seriously

@terdon :p

Rinzwind

16:50

@terdon depends on the state I was told

Zacharee1

@terdon Yes

@Rinzwind Not that I know of

Although

actually yes

Wild Man

@terdon it is for civilians but it is waived in the Army, the thought is if you can fight for your country then you should be able to drink.

Zacharee1

18 for beer and wine in many states and 21 for liquor

Serg

OK, the freakin gpg --list-keys tells me i have two keys

Zacharee1

hah

terdon

16:51

@WildMan Ah, actually that does make sense.

Rinzwind

@Zacharee1 "The states of Washington and Wisconsin allows the consumption of alcohol in the presence of parents."

Serg

how do i use the one on the launchpad ?

Nathan Osman

Speaking of which...

Wild Man

did not make a difference to me because I do not drink but it was scary how many soldiers were drunks at a young age.

Zacharee1

@Rinzwind and in NJ, you can drink underage on private property with parental consent

Nathan Osman

16:51

French government bans alcohol near Euro 2016 venues after violence - AFP http://bit.ly/1UoxsgJ

Tweeted by BreakingNews on June 12, 2016 at 4:36 PM

Zacharee1

These are exceptions

Rinzwind

@Zacharee1 no ;-) that means it depends on the "state" ;-)

terdon

@WildMan Yeah, that's the next question. The idea of inebriated soldiers is a scary one. I'm sure it's common, sadly, but there you go.

Zacharee1

They're called exceptions @Rinzwind

Rinzwind

@Zacharee1 no.. " As of January 1, 2010, fifteen states and the District of Columbia ban underage consumption outright, seventeen states do not ban underage consumption, and the remaining eighteen states have family member or location exceptions to their underage consumption laws. "

Zacharee1

16:53

I'm pretty sure the federal drinking age is 21, but states have exceptions to the law

Terrance

@WildMan That is correct that in the military they can drink younger than 21. They are exempt from State and County drinking laws as long as they are full time or retired military.

Serg

@Videonauth you still around ?

Zacharee1

when you run gksudo nautlius

Rinzwind

@Zacharee1 well it is 17+18 states that do not follow the 21 years minimum ;-)

Videonauth

@Serg yep

Zacharee1

16:54

and we have 50

still less than 50%

Wild Man

@terdon indeed having weapons in the hands of young scared drunks is not a good idea. Of course drunks is not the majority but enough to cause concern

Rinzwind

@Zacharee1 you never run nautilus with (gk)sudo!

Zacharee1

wai

Serg

@Videonauth how do i delete a key from gpg and /or use specific key to sign the code of conduct

terdon

@Zacharee1 Apparently, the federal law simply imposes sanctions on states that allow lower drinking ages.

Zacharee1

16:54

exceptions?

Rinzwind

@Zacharee1 35 out of 50 is less than 50%? since when?

Zacharee1

I thought you were saying 17-18

Rinzwind

@Zacharee1 oh >:-) I forgive you >:-D

now if I had a gun and was near you ...

Wild Man

my wife just told me a we had 50 people killed in an attack this morning

Zacharee1

Sorry, but you're not American. You're not allowed to use senseless gun violence @Rinzwind

terdon

16:56

@WildMan Hence this discussion.

Rinzwind

Sweden O

legal age on alcohol <2.25% is ZERO

terdon

Yeah, @Rinzwind, you can only use sensible gun violence.

Zacharee1

@Rinzwind well that really isn't much alcohol

Rinzwind

@Zacharee1 HOLD ON. That would not be SENSELESS. It would be sensible gun violence

Videonauth

@Serg gpg --delete-key and gpg --delete-private-key

Rinzwind

16:57

@Zacharee1 tell that again after drinking 10 liters >:)

Zacharee1

@Rinzwind I tek ze offenceh

Wild Man

@terdon I missed the reason for the discussion, I have been doing edits

Zacharee1

@Rinzwind If I drink 10L of liquid, I'm going to die from water poisoning, not from the alcohol

Rinzwind

"senseless" is a matter of opinion anyways :P

@Zacharee1 depends on the speed of intake ;)

Zacharee1

@Rinzwind that would explain the general consensus

terdon

16:58

@WildMan No reason why you should have seen it, I was just giving you the context.

Zacharee1

@Rinzwind if it's slow enough you don't die from the water, it's slow enough that you're not greatly affected by the alcohol

Wild Man

it is sad

terdon

That it is.

Zacharee1

except maybe long-term effects on the liver

Serg

@Videonauth deleted but gpg --list-keys still lists it

Zacharee1

16:59

someone give me a favicon.ico

Serg

AHA

Rinzwind

another funny one ...

Videonauth

did you deleted both ?

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