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Anthony

00:02

Hey, why is it that less requires a file as input but you can redirect output into it?

Isn't that weitrd?

Sorry, you can pipe input.

nvm it makes sense

SmokeDetector

00:22

[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of answer: Trouble Installing Ubuntu on an old PC with USB stick by CarlNiemann on askubuntu.com …

Zacharee1

@Serg nagnag

@SmokeDetector Never actually seen you show up in the user bar before

Zacharee1

01:18

OK, since I have to study, I'm doing a refresh on my Windows install. Wish me luck

And of course it bluescreens

Luckily I made a partition holding the Windows 10 installer.

"There was a problem resting this PC"

What a Descriptive and helpful answer

Gah

i can't even go back a. Build

Let's see what happens if I try starting it from within Windows

"Getting things ready. This won't take long." 10 minutes later

"This PC was recently upgraded to Windows 10." If recently means 6 months ago, then yeah

At

least it's doing something

And BSOD

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

01:48

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Q: help understand /var/run/systemd/sessions/2 file / or hacked?

I have a ubuntu box and found this "2" file in /var/run/systemd/sessions. First thought was that I have been hacked because I don't recognize this IP address and have not explicitly configured this file as far as I know. 57.36.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com Note, my non-root user is rsmit. ...

Mateo

02:56

lol

I think I'm going to push that for fun ;P

Zacharee1

Wat

Mateo

03:17

huh, it dosn't like it

ah, it uses that name more than just there it seems

I'll still do the matrix background

oh got it I think

oh my, that is too funny

Serg

04:36

@NathanOsman I remember stumbling accross some form of scripts or macros for stackexchange, among which was a statistics script ; Would you happen to know where's that on stackexchange ?

Serg

04:47

@MAteo nice "Alien" background there :)

Serg

04:57

@NathanOSman found it, nevermind :)

user139252

05:12

@Serg Do you the opposite of the opposite of a staple remover's partner?

jokerdino

hi

OK, I am still a mod.

user139252

Why wouldn't you be?

jokerdino

I couldn't see who deleted that spam user.

Serg

@TheBrownOne The opposite of staple remover's partner ? so . . . stapler's partner . . . paperclip ?

@jokerdino do mods have power expiration dates or something ?

jokerdino

I don't expire.

I do panic.

Serg

05:17

@jokerdino considering that you're a dino, and dinos are already extinct , you might be a fossil so technically you do not expire :)

my sleep deprived brain can only come up with a joke on this level of lameness right now

jokerdino

it's ok. I liked it.

user139252

I've got a free slot on my server rack if anyone wants a website

jokerdino

Free?

I've no penny to pay for a website.

user139252

As long as you don't want a mail server.

Serg

Free as in free beer ? free as in GPL free ?

user139252

05:20

GPL free.

jokerdino

I only want a server to host my lame stuff and maybe a domain.

Serg

I've already a server on digitalocean. But I still have no idea what to do with it.

At some point i need to start working on it. I have wordpress there, but that;s about it. I have an idea for a blog where I'd post random shell scripting stuff and chinese learning stuff . . . If only my energy levels were that of a highly caffeinated bunny in heat . . . .

jokerdino

I have a wordpress.com blog but I dont intend to move it elsewhere.

Serg

06:59

@jokerdino still around ?

Mkay . . .

@Seth or @Oli Need a bit of moderation help here. JacobVlijm has accused me of basically plagiarizing his answer. ( he uses gsettings, I'm using dconf ) . Now, from reading a bit online in the last 5 minutes, it does seem that dconf provides backend to gsettings, which I wasn't aware of. Personally, I don't mind deleting the answer. But I do see it as valid one as well; by analogy , software center answers should be just as valid as apt-get answers, right ?

Link to answer : askubuntu.com/a/739805/295286

jokerdino

07:14

~~yeah, gsettings is lower key than dconf.~~

gsettings is the preferred way to alter settings.

Serg

@jokerdino OK, it's not very clear , but the point being dconf and gsettings are related. Now, does it make my answer a plagiarism then ?

jokerdino

It doesn't really.

dn-ʞɔɐq ɹW

@Serg He suspects plagiarism...

jokerdino

I have seen plenty of competing answers with the same core idea but using different tools.

dn-ʞɔɐq ɹW

Jacob's a good guy: if you explain it to him here in chat, he'll back down...

Serg

07:19

@dn-ʞɔɐqɹW I did post a comment. He seems to be cranky lately.

dn-ʞɔɐq ɹW

If I wouldn't know both of you, hey I'd suspect plagiarism! :D :D :D

jokerdino

I believe gsettings is the API to alter dconf.

dn-ʞɔɐq ɹW

@Serg Just invite @JacobVlijm into chat to discuss things on-line!

:P

@jokerdino so dconf is one level higher then gsettings?

jokerdino

the other way.

dont confuse me.

dn-ʞɔɐq ɹW

(I know gsettings is installed by default)

jokerdino

07:21

dconf is already there

dconf-editor not so much

dn-ʞɔɐq ɹW

Ah, thanks for telling me that.

Serg

If that's the case, why use two essentially similar tools ?

dn-ʞɔɐq ɹW

I like to use the lowest possible tool to get things done.

one is gnome and better known?

I thought gsettings was the lowest-level tool!

Serg

I don't understand why gsettings and dconf aren't combined or something . . . or one is removed in favor of the other

jokerdino

dconf is the lower level.

gsettings provides a means to alter dconf schema

dconf is the replacement for gconf.

hold on, Oli probably wrote something.

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Q: Gconf, Dconf, Gsettings and the relationship between them

I'm trying to understand how Gconf, Dconf and Gsettings works and what the relationship is between them. All I know is: Gconf - XML based database (backend system). The older one. Dconf - BLOB based database (backend system). The newer one. Gsettings - CLI tool to edit settings. Looks like it ...

gconf dconf gsettings

Serg

07:25

You know . . . I'll deal with Jacob later . . . I'm too tired to spend my mental energy on random plagiarism accusations . . . He might be a nice guy and nice python coder, but he seems to jump the gun too much lately . . .

I'm out for a smoke . . .

jokerdino

ok, I will be here.

dn-ʞɔɐq ɹW

Ah Application developers and end-users are recommended to use Gsettings, not Dconf directly.

good! so I'm staying with what I know.

jokerdino

I think dconf modifies binaries or something.

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A: What are the differences between gconf and dconf?

gconf typically uses an XML backend, while dconf uses its own binary blob. From that change alone you can draw up some points: Binary read access is far faster than parsing XML According to dconf's design section, a Gnome login consists of thousands of read operations and only a few writes. To ...

Serg

@jokerdino well, dconf stores stuff in binary file (database). Isn't gsettings an xml thing ?

Ah . . .says right there

Maybe i should delete the answer. That question is a dupe in the first place, which cannot be closed because of the stupid bounty. Second, i don't like arguing with people or getting into conflicts.

jokerdino

07:41

relax, you are doing all right.

Serg

07:51

On a completely unrelated note, today I found another way how login to Unity can be stuck, i.e. when no launcher or dash appears. By a will of accident, OP on one of my answers decided to include the script I wrote into .profile , so Unity waited for .profile to quit, and the .profile waited for my script to quit

Serg

08:14

Alright folks . . . I'm outta here . . . Ya'll stay classy . . . May peace,cookies, and bacon descend upon yall from heavens . . .

Jacob Vlijm

Hi guys, @jokerdino, @Serg, @dn-ʞɔɐqɹW Looking at the time schedule, posting a solution as part of an answer, a long time after a similar solution, be it more elaborated, was posted, makes me frown uppon it. That's all. As far as I know, gsettings is the cli "frontend" to dconf, which makes it essentially the same answer. Mentioning it as "not nice" is not the same as accusing of deliberate plagiarism.

And cranky? Why would you say that? Having an opinion is not the same as being cranky.

I love AU. Many of the people around here I highly, highly value. Their contribution to the site, their "being human", their integrity. On some points, I am trying to get things sharp. Mostly by posting on Meta. Is that what you are referring to?

jokerdino