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Fabby

21:00

@Zacharee1 Ubuntu tag removed.

@ParanoidPanda by removing them and taking a clear colour?

@ParanoidPanda I didn't! I took @ByteCommander's design... But if I would have had to make it from scratch, I would have used Impress to make it...

>:-)

Now it was an existing design, in bitmap instead of vector format.

Zacharee1

@Fabby Not GIMP?

user136984

@Fabby: Well, ok, how did he make them?

Fabby

@Zacharee1 Well, I did as it was an existing bitmap...

So then it's easier to use GIMP.

kos

@ParanoidPanda Microsoft Paint. :D

Fabby

If starting from scratch, I would have used a vector format: easier to resize!

@kos Microsoft paint!!!! :D :D :D

kos

21:05

@Fabby Fixed

Is Corel Draw still a thing BTW?

Seth

yeah, I think so..

user136984

@Seth: Which colour do you think would make the speech bubbles less 'distracting'?

Zacharee1

ugh

something's wrong with my laptop fan

Seth

@ParanoidPanda any solid colour would look better than patterns..

Zacharee1

brb

Fabby

21:10

@ParanoidPanda Seth likes the orange of the Ubuntu site...

kos

Yes it is: coreldraw.com. Didn't heard of it since a while, but that's not really my field of interest.

user136984

@Seth: Ok, right, sorry, I just tried putting a black border which looked ugly, and then didn't further look into making it a solid colour... And then I saw chocolate patterns! :D

user136984

@Fabby: The text is already Orange, you won't be able to see it on an Orange background! :P

Fabby

@ParanoidPanda Oh, the size should be 300x250 or double that... :P

@ParanoidPanda Make the text white or black???

It would actually improve your design...

user136984

There is one problem I'm having though, it's making the size below 40KB while still using png... I can't get it bellow 72KB!

kos

21:17

@ParanoidPanda They increased the limit to 150KB: meta.stackexchange.com/a/273271/302251

Zacharee1

Well I just opened my computer, took the fan out, cleaned the dust from the edge and from the fins, and put it back in

all while my computer was asleep :p

Fabby

small version

Zacharee1

And it doesn't seem to have helped the airflow any

@Fabby what is this logo for?

Fabby

@Zacharee1 Just to get an upload to imgur...

Zacharee1

the whole thing in general

kos

21:20

@ParanoidPanda However I agree with Heather Brown that yours would look better with a solid color(s) in place of the patterns.

Zacharee1

ugh

shutting down

Fabby

@kos Just noticed yours and upvoted that one too!

Zacharee1

Why computer? Why must your fan mess up?

kos

@Fabby Thanks!

Fabby

@Zacharee1 Get a can of compressed CO2 and blow it out...

Zacharee1

21:23

I already manually cleaned the dust. Still weak airflow

Fabby

as in "b l o w i t o u t" not "explode"

Zacharee1

Loll

Fabby

@Zacharee1 how?

vacuum cleaner?

Zacharee1

I opened the laptop, took out the fan, and picked the dust off

Now I'm doing it again

Fabby

@Zacharee1 well now's a good time to get mum's vacuum cleaner, clean it out that way and add a drop of "olio di olive della mamma" too!

Zacharee1

21:25

Why would I put olive oil in?

Fabby

if that fails: replace the fan with another one of a bit better specs...

@Zacharee1 What does oil do to moving parts???

kos

@Fabby *della >:)

Fabby

@Zacharee1 (only use olive oil if you've got no mineral oil handy)

Zacharee1

@Fabby I'm not putting olive oil in a computer. Besides, that stuff congeals and ends up getting sticky

Fabby

@kos corrected... (thanks)

@Zacharee1 well, olive oil is better then no oil!!!

(someone should star that)

Zacharee1

21:27

The fan is spinning fine

kos

@Fabby I like teasing, don't worry about what I say.

Zacharee1

The flow is getting blocked

Fabby

@Zacharee1 Vaccuum clean the entire laptop!

not just the fan!

kos

@Zacharee1 Thermal paste?

Zacharee1

I don't have one!!

None here

kos

21:28

@Zacharee1 Maybe it's better if you buy some before it blows up.:D

Zacharee1

I think I also have to take the heatsink out

user136984

@Seth: Is this at all better?

user136984

Zacharee1

This is a $1000 computer less than 6 months old

Fabby

@ParanoidPanda KISS: stick with one colour...

it still looks too messy... (sorry to say)

kos

21:30

^^ and the orange on the blue kills my eyes a little bit. :P

user136984

Which colour?

Terrance

@Zacharee1 Compressed air is the best for cleaning out the vents on those. 6 months is plenty of time for dust to build up.

Fabby

@Zacharee1 Yeah, I had a 15000$ Lancia Delta 1.6 GT I.e. once and it needed its valves checked every 5000Km... (I.o.w.: "so what? 1000$ machines don't need vaccuum cleaning?)

Zacharee1

@ParanoidPanda @Fabby thinks everything looks bad, but a duller color would be better

@Terrance send me one and I'll use it

@Fabby they shouldn't need new fans

After 6 months

Fabby

@Zacharee1 I'm giving up: you don't listen to me anyway...

Seth

21:32

@ParanoidPanda better, but now it's kind of bright :P

Fabby

It's sound, good advise and if you would have sone what I told you instead of arguing about it, your problem would be gone already! :D ;-) :P

Zacharee1

I can't!

I don't have any of that

Terrance

@Zacharee1 Walmart, Sam's Club, Target, etc. Any of those sell the cans of compressed air.

Zacharee1

@HeatherBrown the form seems to be broken again

Fabby

@Zacharee1 You don't have a vacuum cleaner nor olive oil?

Where do you live? Africa?

Zacharee1

21:33

It's a dorm

Fabby

Use an ostrich feather and palm oil then!

user136984

@Seth @Fabby: And this?

user136984

It would be nice if you could give some colour suggestions...

Fabby

@ParanoidPanda now make the two orange colours identical.

Seth

21:34

@ParanoidPanda that's not bad.

j0h

In some c++ code, on ubuntu systems though, I get unrecognizable characters, for Unicode characters when outputting on the command line. is this a suitable question for ask ubuntu?

Terrance

@ParanoidPanda Colorblind here, so I would be of no use for that. =)

Zacharee1

@ParanoidPanda eyedropper the chat bar color for the bubbles

user136984

@Fabby: The two Oranges?

user136984

You mean the bottom bar?

Zacharee1

21:35

Yes

Fabby

@ParanoidPanda bubble and bottom bar same colour (the one of the bottom bar)

@j0h use a different font for the terminal.

kos

@j0h If the problem is in the charset used by the terminal yes.

Fabby

@j0h I use "Envy Code R"

Seth

you can't see orange? It's kinda the official ubuntu colour..

kos

However mind that the console doesn't support printing UTF-8. Or is this in a terminal?

Fabby

21:36

@Seth He can't distinguish between the two oranges...

j0h

how can I tell the terminal to use a different charset, from a c++ program?

Fabby

He's not a dog that can see only B&W...

Seth

@Fabby Well I can't either FWIW :P

Zacharee1

Text me if you need me (you know my website)

guntbert

@Seth there was a strange post by one "Richard Stallman", (askubuntu.com/review/first-posts/515208) I guess its a fake account. He might intend to post the same "answer" more than only once. Please have a look.

Fabby

21:37

@Seth :D OK then!

Seth

(unless you mean the bottom and the balloons, then I kinda can)

user136984

@Fabby: Like this?

Fabby

@ParanoidPanda like what?

user136984

Fabby

@ParanoidPanda Much better!

I'll even upvote!

(oh, I can't upvote twice...)

;-)

Seth

21:38

@guntbert that's a troll.

j0h

�
these characters.. is this a charset problem?

Seth

So he gets his account removed :)

kos

@ParanoidPanda Clap clap! Personally I don't like the pattern under "YOU!" too much, but overall it looks nice.

Fabby

@j0h By changing the terminal default font from within your program???

lemme look where it's kept.

guntbert

@Seth :-)

j0h

21:39

thanks

kos

@j0h If in a terminal it'd seem like you're outputting an invalid UTF-8 sequence.

Fabby

@guntbert Good catch! (still funny though)

user136984

@kos: Well, I like that, it's a sort of lava colour and it along with the other colours in that image are meant to look sort of dangerous and wanting to be noticed, so unless the community absolutely hates it and can think of something better, it's staying! :P

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guntbert

@Fabby I stumbled over it in 1st post review, flagged immediately as NAA and the realized the trollish name - too late to flag with a custom flag

Fabby

21:42

@j0h here they are...

kos

@ParanoidPanda Well, that was my feature-request. :)

Fabby

Try "Envy Code R" first: it has a full UNICODE character set. @j0h

j0h

Im interested in outputing characters \u16A0 to \u16BF (unicode-table.com/en) to the command line, (from a c++ program) how do I do that?

ok. ill look

so the terminal is UTF-8?

user136984

@kos: What would you replace it with?

user136984

If you can come up with something better then I would be happy to hear your suggestion, or see it if you can make it...

kos

21:48

@ParanoidPanda Can you do a quick mockup of white in place of yellow and orange in place of the "lava" pattern? I.e. the same as the bubbles. Maybe it's too much white on orange, but just to see...

Seth

@AskUbuntuMeta FKJ#$JDFHS@$#$GDF

user136984

@kos: Sorry, I'm not exactly sure what you mean, you mean you want me to remove the black and yellow and the lava pattern and just have an Orange square there with the word "YOU" on it? Or just Orange? Or...?

Seth

I think the pattern YOU is ok

user136984

@Seth: So you think it can all just stay as it is then? :)

Seth

yeah

aww man, I just install the periscope app to ask MKBHD a question when he ends the stream :(

Zacharee1

21:57

So my laptop is supposed to have 4 RAM slots in it

I took off the back and the keyboard and I honestly can't find the other two

I guess they're on the underside of the MB

But taking out the fan and putting it back in twice helped

Seth

Google it?

j0h

@Zacharee1 does it have embeded ram?

whats the laptop?

kos

@ParanoidPanda I mean replacing the avatar's background pattern with a solid orange and to change the color of "YOU" from yellow to white, matching the font color / background of the bubbles, just to see how it looks.

Zacharee1

@j0h no, it has one 8GB stick. It's an MSi GP60 2QF

@Seth me?

Seth

yeah

I'm sure Google will show where the others are.

Or get the repair manual.

What machine?

Zacharee1

22:00

I'd like to see you find detailed docs on an MSi laptop :p

Fabby

@j0h here's a copy-paste of my terminal

$ echo ᚠ
ᚠ

Zacharee1

Few massages up @Seth

@Fabby I see rectangles

Fabby

@j0h Runes??? Really? Why?

Zacharee1

Norse?

Seth

MSi? o_O

Zacharee1

22:01

@Seth cheap (comparatively)

Fabby

@Zacharee1 bad font in your browser: change it to one supporting the full UNICODE map.

Zacharee1

@Fabby How in Chrome?

user136984

@kos:

Fabby

@Zacharee1 Change to FF... :D (Meaning: I don't use Chrome/Chromium, never will)

j0h

I wrote a cypher program, and I though it would be neat to add runes

user136984

22:02

Zacharee1

@Fabby I don't like FF anymore. It's gotten really slow and buggy

Fabby

@ParanoidPanda in-line, please???

Zacharee1

@Fabby STOP EDITING

pls

@ParanoidPanda I like it!

Seth

@Zacharee1 From the manual:

> Memory
Memory DDR3L 1333/ 1600 MHz SO-DIMM x **2 slots**

Fabby

@Zacharee1 Huh? WTH are you talking about?

Zacharee1

22:03

@Fabby you kept editing your ping to me

user136984

@Zacharee1: Really? It's just getting worse and worse now! :P

Fabby

@Zacharee1 Ah! Sorry...

Zacharee1

@Seth huh. Every program I've downloaded tells me four

@ParanoidPanda wat

Seth

@ParanoidPanda Honestly, I did like the pattern in the YOU part.

kos

@ParanoidPanda No, doesn't look good. Maybe then black as the background of the avatar, but then maybe you can just keep the pattern. :D

j0h

22:04

when I try to copy paste echo ᚠ in, I get echo ?

Zacharee1

@ParanoidPanda do you want me to take a 1080p screencap of the send/upload buttons?

Seth

@Zacharee1 it's possible there's some soldered in or something? Or there's a bug somewhere..

Zacharee1

@ParanoidPanda it'll be less blurry

j0h

I can do it with raster fonts or something I bet

Zacharee1

@Seth maybe

Fabby

22:04

@Seth I actually like the Black-and-yellow surrounding YOU: looks like "Work in Progeress!"

Zacharee1

@Seth the laptop does feel a bit unfinished

Fabby

@ParanoidPanda -----^

Zacharee1

@Fabby agreed

Seth

@Zacharee1 Can't be worse than what I have..

user136984

I think it's fine as it is...

kos

22:05

@ParanoidPanda However upvoted already, it was just to see how it would have looked.

Zacharee1

@Seth what

Fabby

@j0h Have you changed to Envy Code R already???

Zacharee1

@ParanoidPanda It's good! The buttons just annoy me :p

Seth

@Zacharee1 I have a Lenovo G510. The disk drive is loose and shakes when you move the machine, the back cover and corners creak when you pick it up, the display bends pretty easily..

Zacharee1

@Seth lol

Fabby

22:06

@j0h That's very complex...

Seth

but it was cheap, and what I could afford.

Fabby

(but if that's what you like: go for it!) @j0h

Zacharee1

The drive on here is pretty loose too, but the whole thing is plastic so..

@Fabby do I want UTF-8 or UTF-16LE?

Fabby

@Seth Duct tape!

@Zacharee1 I've never needed UTF-16LE yet, but YMMV...

Zacharee1

Neither works

YMMV?

Fabby

22:07

@Zacharee1 BRB

kos

@j0h printf("\u2603");

(or \uwhatever)

% cat foo.c
#include <stdio.h>

int main() {
	printf("\u2603");
	return 0;
}
% gcc foo.c -o foo
% ./foo
☃%

user136984

@Zacharee1: I don't know, no matter what I do, I can't seem to fix the buttons, but I don't think it's such a big deal...

kos

The terminal must support it though.

Zacharee1

@ParanoidPanda zoom way in, then screencap

@ParanoidPanda what's this for anyway?

Fabby

@Zacharee1 lmgtfy.com/?q=define+YMMV

Zacharee1

22:15

@Fabby I looked it up already, and CONNECTION_REFUSED

Fabby

3rd and last edit

user136984

@Zacharee1: Immediately as I take that and resize it so it's the right size it goes down to that quality I have in my current image... Doesn't seem to be anything I can do...

Zacharee1

@Fabby ARE YOU DOING THAT ON PURPOSE

@ParanoidPanda hmm

Fabby

No, that's why I've got sound turned off in my browser:

(and I'm typing in the dark)

user136984

@Zacharee1: I'm trying to get it as a community ad here, if it gets more than 6 upvotes it will be displayed as one of those ads on the right on the AU site. :)

Zacharee1

22:17

ahh

GeoMint

@ParanoidPanda +1 for you and @Fabby 's post

Fabby

I don't like the browser playing a sound whenever @ParanoidPanda pings me, nor starting to play Christmas carols in the background...

user136984

@GeoMint: Thanks! :)

Fabby

@GeoMint Thanks!

user136984

@Fabby: I thought you had the sound off for that sort of thing? :D

Fabby

22:18

@Zacharee1 Do you understand now why I don't even go to sites that force me to use JavaScript??? :D

Zacharee1

no

Fabby

@ParanoidPanda Yes, that's what I was explainging: sound is turned off by default.

@Zacharee1 Well, for one: I'm less annoyed when people edit their pings...

>:-)

Zacharee1

that's not an incentive

Fabby

@ParanoidPanda why did you even star the send and upload?

It takes away space from better stars... >:-)

@GeoMint Oh wow! I'm top of the bill now! (well, mathematically @NathanOsman still is, because he has two ads)

Jeremy

why does the chatroom need/want an ad?

user136984

22:23

@Fabby: I didn't star it and have been wondering the same thing! :D

GeoMint

:P

Fabby

@Jeremy Because lots of people can't find the small button that leads them here...

@Jeremy Took me 1000 rep before I found it!

Zacharee1

lol

Fabby

:26959755 in-line!!!! (and I believe you anyway...)

user136984

@Fabby: See? Not me! :D

Zacharee1

22:24

@Fabby same here

@Fabby NO

GeoMint

i can make a darktable ad

darktable.org

Fabby

No need to remove it! Just put it in-line...

@GeoMint Go ahead!

Zacharee1

@Fabby well the message is technically inline now...

user136984

Do you guys see the odd way it put my message?

Zacharee1

wat

Fabby

22:26

@Zacharee1 well, not in Brirtish English until it gets published as a separate word in the OED...

Zacharee1

@Fabby UTF-16LE, still can't see what you typed up there

@Fabby what?

Fabby

@ParanoidPanda Nah, with your posts my IGNORE_ODDITY mode in my brain gets switched on by default...

@Zacharee1 Let me look up my default font.

it's the font you use...

it needs a full UNICODE character set.

@Zacharee1 FireFox built-in apparently...

I have an answer about this here on the site...

lemme look

user136984

Ok, well, I've filled a bug report for what I saw anyway... :)

Fabby

@Zacharee1 Here it is (cc @j0h) unicode terminal

user139252

@Zacharee1 It won't send if the "From: " header is something invalid.

user139252

22:33

For example, if I type "[email protected]" into the "email" field, it won't send.

user139252

But, "[email protected]" will send.

Fabby

@Zacharee1 Please don't approve editing of off-topic posts. Please? Pretty please???

kos

@ParanoidPanda Can you try posting a picure here, wait until I reply to the message and then delete it?

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Few unique characters in answer, repeating characters in answer: After update chrome won't open desktop is read only by Sid Fishes on askubuntu.com

GeoMint

is that ok?

@Fabby @ParanoidPanda

Fabby

22:44

@GeoMint 40KB max size...

user136984

@GeoMint: What is it?

GeoMint

darktable.org

user136984

@GeoMint: Oh, are you making an ad for it?

GeoMint

yeah

its a tool for photographs

user136984

@Fabby: Actually, apparently it can be up to 150KB.

GeoMint

22:45

i have done it for 40KBs, is that ok as image?

@ParanoidPanda darktable is an open source photography workflow application and RAW developer.

Nathan Osman

I tried Darktable once and I agree - it would be nice to see an ad.

GeoMint

meta.askubuntu.com/a/14962/228051 DONE

Absolute limit on file size of 40 KB

at 70KB it has 600dpi, now its at 400dpi

bad resolution

Fabby

@GeoMint too small: it needs to be 40KB max and 300x250 min

Zacharee1

@Fabby I don't even know if it is OT

GeoMint

it is

Fabby

22:51

@Zacharee1 let him try!

GeoMint

it is both

Fabby

We'll see how many upvotes it gets...

Zacharee1

@Fabby what?

Fabby

@GeoMint It is?

Lemme look again

GeoMint

it is 300x250 and 39KB

ooh sorry

Fabby

22:52

@GeoMint it isn't

@GeoMint 200*167

GeoMint

300x250 = 70KB :/

edited post, meta.askubuntu.com/a/14962/228051

i hope i dont get rejected for going over maximum file size

Zacharee1

That size seems way too small for anything good

GeoMint

oohhh We're going to bump the filesize limit back up to 150KB.

its official

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Q: Community ads filesize "cannot exceed 40KB": Difficult with new bigger ads + High DPI (retina)

The filesize limit used to be 150 KB, now for some reason it is only 40 KB. To make the problem worse: Ads are now bigger (300x250 instead of 220x250, 36% more pixels) High DPI (aka retina) means 4 times more pixels As a result, even very simple ads miss the 40 KB criteria. Given that some s...

discussion status-completed advertising community-promotion-ads bandwidth

Zacharee1

@HeatherBrown The reason I said it was broken again is I saw an email from www-data. I sent a test and it worked, but it worries me.

Fabby

@GeoMint Good! and you've got one upvote already!!!

GeoMint

22:57

:D

Zacharee1

@GeoMint yay!

GeoMint

Thank you guys

Zacharee1

Wait, what are the expectations for what ads you can suggest?

user139252

@Zacharee1 Strange, I'll try looking into it

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