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I'm using Ubuntu linux with Unity. I've just installed openbox to check it out. Firefox uses GTK3 when run from Unity but when run from openbox it uses GTK2. Why is this happening? Is there way to fix it?

blade19899

01:05

Anybody awake?

Whaaaaaat

@blade19899 yes

awake and upset, but awake nonetheless

blade19899

> NO_PUBKEY....

:)

Whaaaaaat

where?

blade19899

some ubuntu servers and apps

> sudo apt-key update; sudo apt-get update

Whaaaaaat

oh.

blade19899

01:08

Tried the commands above, but didn't work

Also y-ppa-manager

Still the same error

> W: GPG error: http://deb.playonlinux.com trusty InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY E0F72778C4676186
W: GPG error: http://repository.spotify.com stable InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 13B00F1FD2C19886
W: GPG error: http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 40976EAF437D05B5 NO_PUBKEY 3B4FE6ACC0B21F32

Whaaaaaat

mega.nz?

blade19899

yep

50GB of free secure online storage

mega.nz

Whaaaaaat

manually add keys maybe?

sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys <missing-key>

blade19899

Tried that, no luck.

Ill try again, that code looks different

@Whaaaaaat no luck. After apt-get update same error(s)

Whaaaaaat

hmmmmm

blade19899

01:14

Trying out this code:

> sudo apt-key adv --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys E0F72778C4676186

Found here: ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2191269#post_12863274

Its stuck at:

> gpg: requesting key C4676186 from hkp server subkeys.pgp.net
.

> gpg: keyserver timed out
gpg: keyserver receive failed: keyserver error

Ugh

Whaaaaaat

weird

blade19899

@Whaaaaaat -_-"

Annoying, how do I fix this? :(

Whaaaaaat

thinking

@blade19899 Type these commands:

cd /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d
find . -type f | wc -l

and send output

blade19899

> 84

Whaaaaaat

@blade19899 Did this just start to happen?

blade19899

01:23

@Whaaaaaat I noticed it earlier. I think it was after I installed ccsm

Compiz Config Settings Manager

Whaaaaaat

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A: How do I fix the GPG error "NO_PUBKEY"?

apt can only handle 40 keys in /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d . 41 keys and you will get the GPG error "no public key found" even if you go through all the steps to add the missing key(s). Check to see if there are any unused keys in this file from ppa(s) you no longer use. If all are in use, consider r...

May be relevant?

blade19899

I found it easier to just delete all keys from /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d and then proceed to accepted answer askubuntu.com/a/386003/284664 — janot Feb 8 at 18:22

Might, move them to a secure location, and try that

Nathan Osman

I wonder what Nginscript is going to be like.

Also, [Return] doesn't send messages in chat on mobile.

It just inserts a carriage return.

blade19899

@Whaaaaaat It fixed my error. But my /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d folder is empty. Is that bad?

Whaaaaaat

@NathanOsman your userscript doesn't work

@blade19899 It works, so I guess no?

blade19899

01:35

@NathanOsman yeah, I installed the same script it doesn't work om My machine: Ubuntu Trusty Tahr, 14.04,

Mozilla Firefox 41.0.1

@Whaaaaaat Hhhmmm...

You think it should be bad

Next error X,')

> docky
[Info 03:37:32.856] Docky version: 2.1.0 bzr stacks-2.1.0 r1556
[Info 03:37:32.861] Kernel version: 3.19.0.30
[Info 03:37:32.862] CLR version: 2.0.50727.1433
Missing method System.Type::op_Inequality(Type,Type) in assembly /usr/lib/mono/2.0/mscorlib.dll, referenced in assembly /usr/lib/mono/gac/glib-sharp/2.12.0.0__35e10195dab3c99f/glib-sharp.dll

Unhandled Exception:
System.TypeInitializationException: An exception was thrown by the type initializer for GLib.GType ---> System.MissingMethodException: Method not found: 'System.Type.op_Inequality'.

Whaaaaaat

6 chat tabs open

one beeps, check them ALL

blade19899

@Whaaaaaat lol. Why 6?

Whaaaaaat

@blade19899 One slack for the admins of a project I'm in, another for everyone, AU Chat, Arqade chat, and two IRCs.

hmm. Should I get a headset or smartwatch?

FireFaced

Gotta love tabs, right?

blade19899

lol. SPeaking about tabs...

> "We’re all familiar with tabbed UIs. They’re far too common to miss. But, as it often happens, “common” doesn’t mean “good idea”. Let’s take a look at what tabs are, why they were created, how they are used today and why they must die." - OMG! Ubuntu!, Why Tabs Must Die

FireFaced

01:43

steps out of room to look at mom's computer Oh god the tabs

I agree, tabs MUST die

Serg

Critique plz

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A: Renaming bunch of files, but only part of the title

Here's my take at it,using bash, awk, and mv . If we look at the file name from awk standpoint, filename is just a string with space separated fields, and of particular interest is field $3 which has to be padded with zeros. The script bellow does exactly that. Make sure you place the script and...

Did I do good ?

Ask Ubuntu Meta

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Q: Closed source conflict?

Is there an ethical conflict with using a closed source platform for supporting an open source project? Namely, AskUbuntu is part of StackExchange and I went looking for the StackExchange source code. I didn't find it. By the way, I did find some clones. Now, personally, I don't much care either...

discussion

FireFaced

@Serg I don't know if others are looking at that, but I'm personally unfamiliar with awk, so I can't help

KGIII

Eh? My question pops up in chat automagically? Neat...

FireFaced

I still don't understand, since when is "automagically" a thing?

KGIII

01:54

Since forever. I imagine that I've probably used it since the mid 1980s. That's a rough guess.

FireFaced

Huh.

Serg

@FireFaced mkay, but thanks for looking anyway ^_^

KGIII

I kind of doubt that I was the first to use it. I'm sure I heard it elsewhere, first.

FireFaced

Surprised I only noticed it in the past few years

Odd

@Serg BOING. That's an odd notification sound

KGIII

I wonder if it will ever make it into the OED and there will be research done to see when it was first coined?

Whaaaaaat

01:56

tabs are awesome

tabs are love, tabs are life.

Serg

@FireFaced sure grabs your attention ^_^ or scares when you focus on something <.<

FireFaced

@Whaaaaaat TABS TABS TABS TABS

Serg

@Whaaaaaat Too many tabs is a pain tho

FireFaced

@Serg I guess it's supposed to grab your attention, but scare you when focusing? runs

KGIII

The first time I saw tabs in a browser was way back when Opera put them in. I was pleased. The other browsers started doing it not long after as I recall? I'm not sure if they were first or not but of the few that I used they were the first.

Whaaaaaat

01:57

TABS :D

i like tabs in my tabs in my tabs

KGIII

Heh... Had to pay for Opera back then, too. What a time.

FireFaced

@Whaaaaaat Yo dawg, I heard you liked tabs, so I put a tab in a tab in THE TABS in the OTHER TABS

Whaaaaaat

@FireFaced SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY

FireFaced

BOING

KGIII

Had to shovel packets in the snow, up hill, both ways! And we liked it.

Whaaaaaat

01:59

Opera appeals to the Apple crowd: "It costs a lot of money, so it must be good!"

FireFaced

@Whaaaaaat I've been wanting to put a VM in a VM in a VM in a VM in a host

Serg

@KGIII Opera used to be non-free ? oO

KGIII

It was (and kinda still is) good at the time. Firefox hadn't been invented, for example.

Yeah, we used to have to pay for it way back when.

Whaaaaaat

opera used to be so awesome

i loved having email, IM, and web all in one place

but then they inexplicably dropped that.

KGIII

Have you checked into Vivaldi?

Serg

02:00

I have

KGIII

I've got het latest snapshot but it hates every computer (except one) so far and I need to run it with the hardware acceleration shut off.

Serg

I like that Vivaldi is fast, but it's kind of . . .unpolished yet . . .

KGIII

Wow, English is my native language. I just am not good at it.

Serg

English is not my native language and i am not good at it, but i still edit and re-write essays for my friends

because yolo

KGIII

I've tried the copy Google's H.264 files over to my Vivaldi but I've not yet made that work.

Hmm... I've never visited Ubuntu's IRC servers. They any fun?

Serg

02:06

crickets

KGIII

That's an answer... nods

Serg

ugh . . . the choices . . .java homework or sleep

KGIII

Never do today that which can be put off until tomorrow.

The adage was erroneous - I fixed it.

Serg

no sleep it is, then . . .haha

KGIII

If you sleep for eight hours a day then, by the time you're my age, you'll have slept for 20 years.

Whaaaaaat

02:11

@KGIII You're 60?

KGIII

Not quite but I was rounding. I'm 58.

It was shorter than 19.333.

Serg

Nah, something doesn't add up here . . .i think my brain mathes no good

KGIII

60/3=20 24/3=8

Serg

ah . . . mkay

KGIII

19 1/3 * 3 = 58 (close enough)

I guess I could have gone 19.279 as I'm not quite 58 but I didn't feel like being pedantic or explaining all of this. :D

And 19.279 is just a figure pulled out of my rectum. I'm far too lazy to do the real math.

Serg

02:19

I'm an engineering major, so I'll take that - close enough calculations are good

KGIII

That's good. If you tried to do it to it's absolute finite values then you'd not be a very productive engineer, I shouldn't imagine.

Electrical, mechanical, traffic, or?

Serg

Electrical

Though I'm doing EET, so we have to prove we're engineers and not "technicians"

*EET= electrical engineering technology

KGIII

Fun fun... Plan on going for your doctorate or?

Serg

Nah, I've ben in school forever , bachelor is enough

KGIII

Any idea what you plan on doing with your degree?

Serg

02:29

Frankly, none. I need to graduate first, then I'll be applying for jobs. And Frankly I'm kind of drifting off towards IT right now, not having so much interest in circuits; That's why I decided to do minor in CS . . .will see how that works out.

KGIII

It's 22:30, on a Saturday night, I have a girlfriend, and I'm on AskUbuntu and Slashdot. I'm using VNC from a hotel room, connected to my home computer, and breaking stuff just to see what happens. I don't even drink! I need a life-coach or something.

Heh... The market looks pretty good for CS folks right now. Something like 3% unemployment according to a recent article on /. actually.

Serg

@KGIII well, at least you have a girlfriend. I've been having a dark line - basically every girl i meet is either not interested in me or has boyfriend/husband/girlfriend

KGIII

You'd not believe the story but we met, completely at random, because I happened to see her abusing her malfunctioning laptop and happened to have a Lubuntu Live USB in my pocket.

"That's no way to treat an innocent piece of hardware, it didn't do anything to you."

The rest is, shall we say, history.

Whaaaaaat

@Serg You meet girls? Lucky.

Serg

Linux , connecting people since 1991

Whaaaaaat

02:34

or, in my case: Linux, contributing to the introvert culture since 2007.

KGIII

You gotta get out of the house whaaaaaat? (or however many A's are in there)

Serg

@Whaaaaaat well, I kind of try, not that good at it though. I'm still not quite appealing - poor college student ain't got much to offer. And the only girl that would be willing to be around me is miles and miles away . . . in China . . . speaking of her, i forgot i need to help her with a translation

crap

KGIII

And I think it might be the first time Linux has been responsible for getting me nookie @Serg. Ah - @ and tab...

Serg

@KGIII notbad.png :3

KGIII

I'll learn this newfangled webchat stuff if it kills me. The markup at the site is bad enough. :/

Whaaaaaat

02:36

@Serg It can be a lot worse, trust me.

@KGIII Markdown? That crap is just awesome.

‮ugh i cannot type today

KGIII

I'm still learning it. I figured out the URL and naming schemata with [text](url) today. That was good. I still forget how to make the keyboard every time. <kbrd> or something or other.

Whaaaaaat

<kbd>thing</kbd>

KGIII

I'm not sure if it is the same in comments as it is in a reply.

Does that work in replies too?

Whaaaaaat

Comments don't support it

KGIII

Ah - I'll put that in my "crap to remember.txt" thanks.

Whaaaaaat

02:39

really, all you need to know about markdown is:

`*text*` --> *text*
`**text**` --> **text**
`***text***` --> ***text***
`\`text`\` --> `text`

awwww.

KGIII

Don't laugh, my memory isn't the best. :D So, I really do have said text file and that is it's PC name - it's not actually "crap."

Hmmm... The first is italics.

Whaaaaaat

@KGIII dmishh.com/markdown-sandbox

KGIII

code <-- I know that one

Hmm... It ate the formatting but I know the ` one.

Oh! Nice URL - thanks. :D That's so saved.

Serg

what kind of dumba$$$$$ starts drilling sh!t at 8:40 pm ?

and so loud too !

KGIII

It seems like so many have different markdown formats for their sites.

Whaaaaaat

02:40

Sometimes you use _ instead of a single *

@KGIII There are many different "flavors" -- but if you learn core markdown you basically got it down

KGIII

I should probably make a Crap to Remember about AU/SE text document.

Whaaaaaat

markdowntutorial.com

KGIII

Heh, I used to be on the dev team at SMF - it's much different than I'm used to.

Serg

I only use * for italics, ** , 4 spaces for code indentation, ` for code indentation, and . . .<kbd> . . </kbd> That's it, that's what got me 14.9k rep

well, that and some answers

KGIII

And another link saved, thanks again @Whaaaaaat.

LOL Also, why is rep important? I mean, other than stroking your ego? Is there a way to hide that? I honestly couldn't care less about points. I just like helping people.

I find that helping people helps me too. So, I help. I like to break my stuff and see what pokes what and how it works. If I'm not breaking it then I'm not learning.

<-- Breaking stuff since the early 1980s. Still going strong.

Whaaaaaat

02:44

@KGIII Rep is not hidable, it's a measure of how awesome you are.

It gives you more permissions and powers the more of it you have

Here you go!

Serg

For me rep is my progress

KGIII

LOL I looked at those. Meh... I don't really want to do any of those things. I guess I'll vote because I'm expected to but my next one is to edit wiki pages, for example. I don't see me doing that.

Serg

I've learned a lot since i joined the site

KGIII

That's why I'm here. I guess I could use it as a way to measure my improvements. It makes some sense.

My answering questions isn't entirely altruistic. There's some motivation for myself because it makes me learn new and interesting ways to break stuff and then fix it.

Nathan Osman

@Whaaaaaat @blade19899 do you have GreaseMonkey installed?

Whaaaaaat

02:47

@NathanOsman Tampermonkey. Chrome.

KGIII

Oh.. @NathanOsman is here. Do I need to restart chat to have your script work or?

Nathan Osman

Yup.

You'll need to reload the page.

@Whaaaaaat hmm... that's odd. Did you reload the page?

Whaaaaaat

@NathanOsman yep.

a lot

KGIII

@NathanOsman Working here now. Thanks.

Nathan Osman

@Whaaaaaat does anything show up in the console?

@KGIII excellent!

KGIII

02:49

Opera beta if you're curious. ViolentMonkey.

Whaaaaaat

nope

Nathan Osman

@KGIII same for me :)

KGIII

Strange message saying that I could not communicate with the API but it works regardless.

Nathan Osman

@Whaaaaaat if nothing shows up in the console, that's a bug. It should at least say "connected to server" or something.

Sounds like the script isn't loading.

Whaaaaaat

it's not

Nathan Osman

02:52

Hrm... I'll try reproducing with Chrome/Tampermonkey tomorrow.

Whaaaaaat

and i see why

// @include http://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/201/*

currently on HTTPS.

Nathan Osman

Oooooooh.

KGIII

Heh...

Nathan Osman

Yeah, that'd do it.

KGIII

'Tis easy to fix, at least.

Whaaaaaat

02:53

yep, works now.

RPi Awesomeness

Funny @NathanOsman. I don't ever see you typing...

Whaaaaaat

but i see myself typing.

that's dumb.

RPi Awesomeness

^

Nathan Osman

@RPiAwesomeness i'm mobile.

Whaaaaaat

@RPiAwesomeness :D

HAI

RPi Awesomeness

02:53

@NathanOsman Ah

Nathan Osman

You'd see me if I was at home.

I've got a Bluetooth keyboard connected to my phone.

That's why I can still type fast :P

Whaaaaaat

@NathanOsman can we pls not see ourselves typing? We already know.

Ravan

morning :)

Whaaaaaat

@Ravan o/

Serg

Not sure if my baybeh's english has improved, or I'm too tired to notice anything in translation

Nathan Osman

02:54

@Whaaaaaat that will be an option in the next version.

Or at least one of them.

KGIII

@Ravan morning... (or night for me)

Serg

also, is it wrong to call a girl whith whom I'm not even in relationships a baybeh ?

Whaaaaaat

@Serg I SHIP IT!

And yes.

BUT I STILL SHIP IT

Nathan Osman

@Serg YES.

2

That would not be taken well.

Serg

@Whaaaaaat Ship it like amazon yo :D

KGIII

02:55

Hmm... AskUbuntu chat - now for relationship advice! :D

Whaaaaaat

@Serg I found my new OTP

Nathan Osman

Having typed a few messages in here using the keyboard, I have a few bugs to report about mobile chat when I get a chance.

Ravan

@Whaaaaaat VTC EOL askubuntu.com/questions/686826/cant-install-lxc

Nathan Osman

@KGIII it isn't the first time :P And it probably won't be the last :P

Serg

@Whaaaaaat what's OTP ? Remember you are talking to an associal 25 year old ukrainian dude living in the US, so some acronyms must be explained

KGIII

02:57

Heh... I have Lubuntu to thank for my relationship. I can only guess at what chat has had before @NathanOsman. I can only guess.

Serg

@Ravan wasap bro !

Nathan Osman

I do a bit of crypto so OTP means "one-time password" :P

Whaaaaaat

nevermind.

i spend too much time on Reddit/Tumblr.

Ravan

@Serg hello

Whaaaaaat

@Ravan's a guy?

Ravan

02:58

@Whaaaaaat ??

@Whaaaaaat got your gold badge?

Whaaaaaat

@Ravan yep :D

Ravan

congrats

Whaaaaaat

i found the super-offtopic room that nobody cares about

Ravan

whats that?

Whaaaaaat

the room that nobody cares about.

it's supposedly haunted.

Serg

03:08

@Whaaaaaat what gold badge are we talking about ?

Whaaaaaat

@Serg Steward i think.

Serg

Steward - Complete at least 1,000 review tasks. This badge is awarded once per review type

Whaaaaaat

Yep. For VLQ posts

KGIII

VLQ = ?

Whaaaaaat

Serg

03:13

very low quality

Whaaaaaat

@NathanOsman Is a YubiKey worth it?

KGIII

Thanks @Serg.

Still no definitive answer on my meta question. :| Hmm... I've no idea how long it takes before questions get noticed - it's my first question after all.

Whaaaaaat

Oh, the thingy for OSS?

KGIII

Yup.

Whaaaaaat

SE is a company -- they need to make money.

Also, by trading open-source and free, we get access to one of the largest QA networks around, and integration into said network.

More users for us, less work for sysadmins, less cost for Canonical.

KGIII

03:19

Oh, I've no moral qualms with it or anything. Not at all. I'm just curious if there's any official reasoning or whatnot - opinions are welcome too, obviously.

Whaaaaaat

Official reason is because StackExhange is huge and already out there. It makes everyone's life easy.

KGIII

Heck, I don't actually have anything Windows installed or with me but I do still have an MSDN subscription.

It's not like I've anything against proprietary or closed source. :D

Just curious so I figured I'd see how the questions process worked.

Serg

Inherently , closed source is not a bad thing. It's like a recipe for a dish in a restaurant - protecting their market. The issue is when closed source software starts including "poison" in the recipes , goes low quality, or simply over charges

KGIII

Why was this question on the home page if nothing has changed on it? askubuntu.com/questions/482193/…

Serg

It's haunted

Whaaaaaat

03:24

@KGIII The server will sometimes "bump" questions to the top of the list if they don't have accepted answers.

KGIII

I've been a member (and still am) of some communities who are really really fanatics about open source. It seems that Cannonical, and the community, are less serious/fanatical. Which is good, I think.

That explains it @Whaaaaaat. I was awfully confuzzled.

Whaaaaaat

@KGIII stackoverflow.com/users/-1/community

> Randomly poke old unanswered questions every hour so they get some attention

KGIII

Ah ha! Thanks. So, haunted it is, then.

Serg

@GeorgetheDev hello you are here, my fluffy friend ?

Nicotine break . . .and possibly gonna sleep after that or watch youtube. me brain is no good for no homeworkz no morez

Whaaaaaat

[GeorgeTheDev Proxy] Hello @Serg! How are you today?

KGIII

03:31

Hmm... How many of you keep a terminal window open by default?

Whaaaaaat

Always.

Even at my login screen.

6 of them, actually.

KGIII

LOL Yay! I'm not alone.

Whaaaaaat

Always having 6 terminals is such a blessing.

KGIII

I understand.

Whaaaaaat

even when X is broken :D

KGIII

03:33

That's probably the best time. nods

Whaaaaaat

@KGIII: Try pressing Ctrl-Alt-F1.

To get back, Ctrl-Alt-F7

KGIII

Yup. Been there. :D

I seem to recall the arrow key and shift or some such works as well though that might only be at the login screen. It's been a minute. ;)

Maybe alt... Hmm... BRB

Nope.

Serg

@Whaaaaaat combine ttys with byobu or screen and u haz unlimited terminalz

KGIII

Yup. Left alt and arrow key.

Serg

@KGIII alt+arrow switching between ttya

Ttys

Typing on my cell phone is a pai

Pain

See?

KGIII

03:37

Err - right arrow key. Left may have worked too but I'm in the dark and the girlfriend keeps poking me.

Serg

If you are on tty6 and cycling back to tty1 left arrow works

KGIII

Nice.

Serg

Sudo apt get install girlfriend results in error, unmet dependencies degree, job, house ,car , sense of humor

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: Bridged Networking Problem with VirtualBox

I'm running an Ubuntu Linux guest in VirtualBox on a Mac host running OS X EL Capitan 10.11, and the guest isn't connecting to the host's Wi-Fi. It's set to bridged networking, using the regular en0 Wi-Fi (AirPort). And in the VM network settings, there are only two options, wired connection and...

linux ubuntu

KGIII

You need cmake.

Did you install build-essentials? 'Cause you're gonna need that.

The dependencies are pretty complex too.

Serg

03:45

Well im installing degree right now with dpkg , takes forever. As for the others, i probably need newer versions

Lol, i like geek humor. Where do i find a single Chinese gf with linux skills ? Sigh

KGIII

Have you tried GDebi? You might as well leave no stone unturned.

gf says primary dependency is chocolate. She eats like a horse. I've no idea how she stays skinny.

Journeyman Geek

lol

some people just have fast metabolisms.

KGIII

I forget to eat so I'm pretty skinny.

Serg

@KGIII by the way, to answer your question about keeping open terminals, I have it open upon login along with firefox and java textbook

KGIII

Those are good ones. I take it you've a java class or are an aficionado?

Serg

03:52

java class. In fact, it's supposed to be Data Structures class, because we are doing things like implementing stacks and queues , soon will be doing binary trees and linked lists. For some odd reason CS department in my university teaches everything in java . . .

KGIII

Well, java is pretty popular, for better or worse.

Serg

so it is . . . though for introductory programming class they could have chosen something else, like python or C . . . .with CS1 class, which is basically intro to java, i didn't even buy a book, i blazed through with my C knowledge . . . now the whole class/ abstract class/ inheritance thing has been confusing it, but i guess i am getting it, kinda

KGIII

It could be worse. I've written stuff in Perl.

Serg

@KGIII by the way, about your answer here askubuntu.com/a/680735/295286 netstat is installed by default, AFAIK

KGIII

I wasn't positive - I typically use Lubuntu so I didn't know if it was or not. I do believe that I had to install it. I can probably spin up a VM later/tomorrow to check?

Changed the verbiage. "If it's not installed..."

(Thanks)

Serg

04:05

No problemos amigo :D

KGIII

I'm human and make mistakes and can always improve. My ego isn't that frail so advice is always welcome. :D

Serg

Same here. And especially when it comes to Linux, I'm willing to learn and improve. I don't know . . .there's just something magical about it, the community . . .

it really changed me

KGIII

Yeah. I used Linux for a long time when it came out, well, shortly after. I'd come from Unix and Sun/Solaris, etc... So, it was kind of natural but then I went to Windows for a while and then to Mac for a very short time, back to Windows and then I finally moved back to Linux almost entirely and then entirely not too too long ago.

Serg

When I was in middle school, way back in Ukraine, we had old and rusty PCs with windows . . .95 , I think ? or not even that, probably older . . . .we would be learning MS-DOS and Northon Commander on them, then in 9th grade Turbo Pascal . . . I discovered Macs in 2007-ish when moved to the US . . .but didn't quite like them as it was weird after using Windows for some time.

KGIII

I think what is so excellent is the unexpected ways that people use Linux. I see some amazing things just being questioned at the site that it's inspiring. They do things I'd not expect to be seen in the usual PC environment and to have seen the tech get this far is something to appreciate.

Serg

04:13

^ seconded

And . . . .with scripts and stuff I've learned to make my laptop do things that otherwise i couldn't do in Windows

KGIII

I think one of my earliest was a PET, maybe a VIC 20? Then an Apple ][ and then a TRS-80 and, wow... Those are just my own and my memory is kind of fuzzy. It has been a long time.

Back when I was connecting to the "internet" (not the world wide web) it was just dialing in to someone's computer - they might have a network that you'd connect to. We often knew each other by name, in real life, and all that. It's changed, so much.

Serg

Technology changes, yo ! and it never stops. I couldn't have thought to have basically a mini computer in the palm of my hand few years ago, and now lo and behold - androids and iphones everywhere

KGIII

LOL I'd never have dreamed it would get popular but touch screens aren't really (technically) new. They've just advanced and gotten much cheaper. It's kind of neat to carry a full blown PC in your pocket. I hate tablets but I really think I should try to root a cheap one and get Ubuntu Touch on it so that I can poke, learn, and help.

Serg

I should also put that on the list of my projects . . . though me financial situations don't allow a tablet at the moment. But soon enough. Meanwhile, i have a hand-me-down PC to play with, which for some reason doesn't take anything but original processor or RAM.

I'm gonna try to do BIOS upgrade on it, see if that helps

KGIII

I have like ten of them in my quest to learn about tablets and find one that suits me. When I get home, I've no idea when that will be, if you're comfortable enough giving me an address (at that point) then I can send you one. I, literally, dislike all of them.

I have a cheap one with me that I've been poking at just to play with. I'm in Buffalo right now. I've been here hanging out in a hotel for a while just for kicks. I have some y88x thing that I picked up from Amazon for like $50 or something silly.

Serg

04:26

Well, unless you won't find a good use for them after a while, sure, I'll take one :)

KGIII

LOL I'll remember and let you know when I'm back home. I'm out engaging in wanderlust at the moment but I bumped into a female and got slowed down and now have a girlfriend, quite by accident. So, yeah, it's not a problem. I've sent hardware across the globe since the 80s.

I'd rather it get used than sit collecting dust. I didn't even like the iPad.

If you need to know who I am then, well, I'm "KGIII" (David) and would be the same KGIII on Slashdot, for example - but not the one on Reddit - I don't go there.

Serg

Well, I'm Serg , that's short for Sergiy. Nice to meet you :)

KGIII

Same.

Anyone here with mod powers? See: askubuntu.com/questions/683160/…

I flagged it.

(Rude or abusive.)

Serg

flagged and downvoted

KGIII

Heh. I see the downvote. It's neat that it autoupdates like that.

Serg

04:34

OK, i need to get some sleep because i am literally about to faceplant into the keyboard

so . . . adios for now o/

KGIII

Sleep well and nice to meet ya. Buenos noches, hombre.

KGIII

09:11

Heh... Whoops. I'm still in here. Alright. G'night folks.

A.B.

09:37

Cu @KGIII

David Foerster

VTP please askubuntu.com/questions/686842/ubuntu-server-becomes-unusable

*VTC

kos

09:51

@Serg Apologizes. They should serve beer at the university :D

@Serg However I see you're following up on that .basrc sourcing issue, so this ping is quite unuseful. :D

kos

10:12

The chat looks pretty empty, however this deserves more upvotes: meta.askubuntu.com/a/14535/380067

kos

10:31

Please downvote this: askubuntu.com/a/686764/380067. Shamelessly stolen from the linked duplicate.

Ravan

@kos o/

kos

@Ravan o/

user136984

Well, my last night's ls train madness seems to be getting popular... :D

user136984

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Q: Why do I get a train when I run 'ls'?

I have recently noticed something odd that I don't like very much: So why am I getting a train upon running ls? And how can I stop this and make it behave normally? Is this an Easter Egg that I have discovered? I am running Ubuntu GNOME 15.04. Information Update: Running which ls gets me the...

command-line ls animations

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