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George Edison

00:08

Another StackApplet translation! This time it's Galician.

JohanSJA

@wisemonkey , that is a great guide

lazyPower

@amith-kk probably. We have had interesting internet outages over the last few days.

jrg

howdy @lazyPower

lazyPower

Hola jrg

jrg

outside of interesting internet outages, how're you?

lazyPower

00:16

Honestly, burnt ;)

Working on putting in another 60 hour week

jrg

ouch.

can you pretend to take it easy for once?

lazyPower

such is life when you have four projects running concurrently. They discovered a way to burn out the developer with rapid speed. After this "hell week" is over i'm taking some time off.

jrg

yeah, do that.

otherwise, you'll be burnt out beyond burnout. :P

lazyPower

I mean... rather.. Nothin jrg. Living life like a beach bum :)

jrg

hehe

lazyPower

00:19

So, i've got half my office rolled over to using MSysGit

i feel like a boss having taught the "unteachable" git.

jrg

YEAH!

hurrah for git Evangelists!

lazyPower

My dodgy slideshow needs some salt. I think i'll do it in HTML/Jquery the next time around

jrg

i only do slideshows in html now. :P

lazyPower

Seems to be the best bet. You dont run into the off-by-one issue when transferring between office applications.

jrg

yeah, as long as it pretends to work in IE with chrome frame you're "OK".

wisemonkey

00:24

@JohanSJA: Thanks :)

lazyPower

Who uses IE? (cough other than a recorded 60% of the internet population cough)

wisemonkey

wats that?

:P

jrg

chrome frame? or IE? :D

lazyPower

in either case, its surely bad mojo

George Edison

@lazyPower Are you running StackApplet?

lazyPower

00:32

@GeorgeEdison havent in a while

I stopped being a helpful community member so there wasnt much point in running it to be reminded that i'm slacking in my AU duties.. it served as an eyesore on my ego :P

George Edison

:)

lazyPower

would you like me to download it and bug-check it?

George Edison

Only if you're not too busy or anything.

It's not that serious.

lazyPower

aww i always got time for you George. buddy of mine

i owe my C++ success to you

do i grab this from the ppa or fresh from launchpad?

George Edison

For Ubuntu or Windows?

(Whatever works for you works for me.)

lazyPower

00:38

solid

George Edison

If you're going with Ubuntu - the PPA please :)

jrg

@amithkk PSA: Server is being dropped, no ETA on when it'll be back

lazyPower

@GeorgeEdison found a bug, when registered in the messaging menu its not reporting any rep at all.

let me run it in debug and see if i can get you a helpful stacktrace

George Edison

It's not reporting rep. in the MM?

lazyPower

no sir

George Edison

00:43

It only displays the # of unread notifications in the MM.

lazyPower

oh

thats not what i expected, disregard then. wow. epic fail on the end users part.

George Edison

So most should be 0.

I can't remember exactly but that might be a limitation of the MM API.

Does the config page display correctly?

lazyPower

Yep, Everything is behaving as expected. I've been adding/removing accounts, moving things around, enabling/disabling options trying to get it to freak out. Seems solid. I'll run it for a few days and see if it acts up. Seems really solid though.

George Edison

Great, thank you!

lazyPower

Anytime

George Edison

00:48

I'm planning to release 1.5 tomorrow.

...so I just want to be double sure everything is solid.

lazyPower

Thats what i'm running :)

George Edison

That's the third and final release candidate.

lazyPower

fantastic

I'm excited to say i've watched this applet grow up

3

jrg

duplicate - askubuntu.com/questions/69857/…

Roland Taylor

01:06

>:)

hi, all.

lazyPower

Allo @RolandTaylor

Roland Taylor

hey

wassup?

jrg

Running VirtualBox on my server, viewing it over SSH, like a boss. :P

Roland Taylor

using hax?

jrg

yup

Roland Taylor

01:10

sweet :D!

pro points awarded!

@GeorgeEdison I want official mention of my dog in the next stackapplet release :)
(I have not forgotten that 1.4 ate my dog)

(and the license window did not disclaim responsibility for: causing harm to me, my property, my dog, my friends, my neighbours...)

(lol just teasing - there was an application I downloaded when I still used windows (a long time ago) that had a license like that :P

George Edison

It didn't?

I'm pretty sure the MIT license does.

Roland Taylor

haha

cool

okay, my dog's spirit can rest in peace

or can it?

lazyPower

01:26

i imagine your dogs spirit can rest easy

Roland Taylor

after... haunting stackapplet's dreams :>

George Edison

Poor thing.

Roland Taylor

muhahaha

jrg

Stackoverflow town hall chat starts in 30 minutes. If you're interested, join me.

lazyPower

too much halloween candy for @RolandTaylor. we should ground him from eating more.

Roland Taylor

01:29

(sorry for the randomness - but I'm in that kinda mood :)

jrg

we should totally troll the SO guys.

Roland Taylor

:>

jrg

change back to our Oli gravatars and all pop in. :D

Roland Taylor

if only I had quit trolling

haha

I want my jrg avatar

OR

1 sec let me grab the pic :D

jrg

.... here goes...

Roland Taylor

01:32

(that's not the one I was looking for - but hey!)

jrg

.... no

just no

Roland Taylor

there we go that's the one I meant

We are horde. All your fear are belong to us.

lazyPower

big difference between that and the back of steve ballmers head, unless ofcourse you're comparing yourself to the back of steve ballmers head O.o

Roland Taylor

:)

I'd be more afraid of Ballmer's head btw :D

jrg

nice

Roland Taylor

01:37

So what are we gonna choose?

jrg

none?

lazyPower

+1 to jrg's answer

Roland Taylor

No problem...

:>

(I used to love killing that emoticon on battleswarm)

jrg

@lazyPower btw, thanks for letting me borrow your gnu screenrc.

worked fine until i discovered byobu, now i'm trying to figure out how to use both...

lazyPower

lol, thats whats its there for mate :)

share and share alike

Roland Taylor

01:46

omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/11/xfce-global-menu-plugin-gets-a-ppa

opinions?

Bruno Pereira

0

A: How to disable X at boot time?

For Ubuntu 11.10 Edit /etc/default/grub with your favorite editor, sudo nano /etc/default/grub Find out this line: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=”quiet splash” Change it to: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=”text” Update Grub: sudo update-grub No need to remove / disable lightdm upstart conf,...

added answer for 11.10, was fixed 6 days ago

Eren Tantekin

2

Q: Is it possible to get a mouse button (not recognized by xev) working?

I am using Microsoft Explorer Touch Mouse and I am trying to get two buttons recognized. Mouse, of course, comes with a custom software for Windows and Macosx to customize the buttons, but not for Linux. Unfortunately, xev just ignores those two button presses. Is it possible at all to get the...

jrg

02:09

wow, nobody can answer my stackoverflow moderator question to my satisfaction. :P

Bruno Pereira

link

jrg

in Town Hall Chat on Stack Overflow Chat, 4 mins ago, by jrg

What is your stance about questions related to development tools, e.g. Notepad++, vim, emacs, eclipse, etc?

in Town Hall Chat on Stack Overflow Chat, 1 min ago, by ircmaxell

@SamSaffron Actually, I'll adjust my answer. Search is the biggest problem. Poor search (both in the ability for search to encompass a problem, and poor ability for users to phrase their real question properly) leads to massive duplication and blurs out good content from great content.

^^ THAT

Bruno Pereira

^^

Questions Feed

Can you answer this? Are there any applications to manage SMS messaging on an Android f... http://askubuntu.com/questions/77480/are-there-any-applications-to-manage-sms-messaging-on-an-android-from-ubuntu #softwarerecommendation

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on November 16, 2011 at 2:19 AM

Bruno Pereira

never noticed it :P

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

02:25

0

Q: How to find a file in the filesystem from the command line?

I'm fairly new to Linux, and I've now found myself in a situation where I'd like to find where a file (with a partially-known filename) is in the file system. I'd like to know how to do this from the command line, rather than using a GUI utility. In Windows, I'd run the following: cd /d C:\ di...

ubuntu ls

TheX

Hello.

Bruno Pereira

@TheX hello

TheX

@BrunoPereira hello, have we met before?

user26781

02:48

Can someone help me?

TheX

@jasoncruz98 depends on what the problem is.

but the best thing to do is to ask it on the askubuntu page, then put the link to the question here.

user26781

0

Q: Where do I get extra Compiz plugins?

I installed Compiz on my laptop running Ubuntu 11.10 last week. The way I installed it was kind of different, I opened up a terminal and typed this command: sudo apt-cache search compiz After that, I installed all the packages that appeared in the terminal window. I enjoyed all the effec...

compiz plugins

user26781

@TheX Here it is.

Eren Tantekin

i seriously cant believe how beautiful the design of new nautilus is

2

user26781

@TheX Here it is.

Eren Tantekin

02:53

i just keep staring at it

2

TheX

Oh, sorry I can't help you with that, as I don't use compiz a whole lot, but you should get lots of good answers if you give it enough time

Eren Tantekin

can i get a mouse button recognized even if xev is not recognizing it?

Jordan

03:13

hey everyone!

I have a quick question that maybe someone can answer really quickly

Eren Tantekin

yes

shoot

i will answer it really quickly

Roland Taylor

03:52

wow man... Eliah Kagan needs some sunlight -_

Or maybe just likes to comment on my answers...

or something...

lazyPower

you've attracted a fan

Roland Taylor

in a sarcastic sense, yes :)

I seem a bit too good at that :/

lazyPower

dont pat yourself on the back too hard roland

Roland Taylor

:)

<--- suffering withdrawal symptoms from my most recent fan

does miss her

lazyPower

move to NZ and see how it goes

Roland Taylor

03:59

lol

sounds like fun

0

Q: Antivirus For ubuntu 11.10

Please suggest best anti-virus for ubuntu 11.10.We had symantec end protection 1.0.1 which is working in ubuntu 10.04 and 11.04,in 11.04 only in gnome. The problem symantec end protection only work in gnome not in unity. So please suggest any other if you can.

11.10 unity antivirus

Should I suggest "Ubuntu" before voting to close as a dupe?

lazyPower

Only if you feel like "trollin"

and in which case i've got that under control <3 roland

Roland Taylor

:)

TheX

04:19

@RolandTaylor didn't you here?

Linux is considered a virus now...

Oh wait that was Windows my bad...

annoyances.org/exec/show/article09-115

George Edison

04:36

Launchpad is horribly messed up.

> "bzr: ERROR: No module named apt_pkg. You may need to install this Python library separately."

lazyPower

ouch

George Edison

Yeah - and it's even more fun when a recipe build fails and I get an email for each release that fails to build :)

lazyPower

That's No Bueno

George Edison

With both 32 / 64 bit builds for binary packages, that can sometimes mean 10 emails.

lazyPower

Speaking of that.. i need to investigate in chef as a deployment engine

Portablejim

05:13

@BrunoPereira I posted another answer to your question on snapshots.

3

Q: How to make and restore incremental snapshots of hard disk

I use Virtual Box a lot for distro / applications testing purposes. One of the features I simply love about it is virtual machines snapshots, its saves a state of a virtual machine and is able to restore it to its former glory if something you did went wrong without any problems and without cons...

11.10 filesystem backup tutorial

Questions Feed

05:29

Can you answer this? Print Screen key doesn't work if a drop-down menu is active http://askubuntu.com/questions/72208/print-screen-key-doesnt-work-if-a-drop-down-menu-is-active #keyboard

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on November 16, 2011 at 5:19 AM

Questions Feed

08:39

Down voting consequences http://meta.askubuntu.com/questions/2008/down-voting-consequences

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on November 16, 2011 at 8:19 AM

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

10:37

0

Q: Newbie: find files contain certain string under a directory

I would like to find out all the files under mydir/ direcotry whose content contains string "apple" , how to do this?

linux ubuntu command-line

Amith KK

Hello all

Questions Feed

11:22

Change the software icon http://meta.askubuntu.com/questions/1917/change-the-software-icon

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on November 16, 2011 at 11:19 AM

Amith KK

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH! @jokerdino 's twitter!

Octavian Damiean

11:55

@GeorgeEdison Is the flackbot JavaScript file all that I need fo make FlackBot run?

Amith KK

cleverbot.com/j2log-uZjAGWWWMSWZAWCVGSG-detail

Octavian Damiean

12:11

Didn't you say you wanted to quit trolling and randomness?

4

Amith KK

Oct 31 at 11:20, by Amith KK

ok, I restateERLAERLA: I have given up Randomness BUT if the room is inactive for a long time i'll slip some images in . and Trolling will be limited and will only be done for those who reaaaly need to be trolled upon.

Greg

12:52

Hey guys, just had a crash thanks to KOffice, and now unity interface is really odd (at least I think its unity that is odd). There is no transparency, the alt-tab switcher thing looks like Windows 95, and the workspaces switcher has a slow animation and no orange borders - what did I do??

Oli

13:05

@AmithKK telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/8837736/…

Amith KK

@Greg Looks like you fell back to a glitched Unity 2d

BBL

Roland Taylor

13:28

hi

Marco Ceppi

@AmithKK There is never really a reason to troll

5

Greg

13:55

So, can I use unity2d instead? My laptop isn't very powerful and I think that was the cause of the crash...

jrg

Well, i think you're already using unity 2d

Is this a dupe?

0

Q: How can I adjust brightness settings when I am on battery?

I can't find brightness setting for working from battery mode in Ubuntu 11.10 screen settings. There are some settings from Ubuntu 11.04 in gconf, 90% for AC and 60% for battery but it don't works. How can I have my display brightness dim automatically when on battery power?

11.10 brightness

Greg

14:11

@jrg I'd like to get my laptop back to how it was before the crash - it looks like now I'm using unity2d but don't know how to load back into normal unity - I logged out and chose "Ubuntu" rather than "Ubuntu 2d" (I'm assuming that's what that means) and no effect

I've done unity --reset, unity --replace ... still the same

I'd be fine with it apart from the fact that the workspace switcher is really sluggish and I don't know which workspace I'm in

@AmithKK @jrg have you any ideas how to solve this?

jrg

I'd say this is by design

because if your computer can't run unity 3d,

Octavian Damiean

Add a status-by-design tag. :D

jrg

then it can't run unity 3d. which means that it needs to use 2d, which means that when you try to login with 3d, it falls back on 2d.

(ok, now i'm confused)

Greg

@jrg but I've been using ubuntu 11.10 since it came out with unity 3d with no problems

now I had one crash and it's gone belly up

jrg

12

Q: How do I reset GNOME to the defaults?

I' was playing around with some settings, and now I need to reset GNOME to it's defaults - how do I do that?

gnome configuration default

that's my best guess

OOOH.

ok, ignore that. just rm -r ~/.compiz*

that should fix it.

rather than resetting compiz settings, that just uh, removes them permanently.

Greg

14:19

@jrg cool I'll back it up first... here goes

@jrg ok, now what? restart the computer?

jrg

logout, then log back in.

(selecting ubuntu at login)

Greg

@jrg still the same :/

jrg

Then I have no clue.

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Can you answer this? Bad sound in wine http://askubuntu.com/questions/71992/bad-sound-in-wine #sound

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Greg

14:36

hmm this is making my computer rather unusable ... really difficult to navigate between programs

let me clear up some terminologies...

@jrg does "unity" replace "gnome"?

and where does "compiz" lie with unity?

jrg

14:47

Depends...

unity is a gnome shell

and unity=huge compiz plugin

Greg

heh, well I think I've got it to a broken-but-usable state

so I'm happy for now - got to get on with work... will try to fix this tomorrow!

jrg

sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop - that's what i'd do. :P

Portablejim

Is there the option in 11.10 to use CCSM to decheck unity and drop back (to not using unity), or will you just be left with a broken desktop?

Oli

@Portablejim That'll leave you with a broken desktop. Change the session type at the login screen. If you use automatic login, just logout and you should see the login screen.

Marco Ceppi

74

Q: How do I install and use the latest version of GNOME 3?

I followed the instructions for compiling the Gnome 3 Shell and it did compiled with a few errors here and there but it didn't run. I installed Gnome 3 Shell using sudo apt-get install gnome-shell but I got version 2.31.x but the latest is 2.91.5 or something. So is there a way for me to install ...

gnome3

Portablejim

14:59

@Oli ok. I am considering upgrade options (on 11.04) and thinking I might upgrade diagonally and go to Debian

Or maybe a combination of Mint + Gentoo (dual boot).

Roland Taylor

@Portablejim no point. Upgrade to 11.10, and simply install the DE you want.

No need to use Unity (it's not a forced decision).

Portablejim

15:21

I personally don't see any benefit in running Ubuntu, especially if moving to Debian testing/unstable

Marco Ceppi

@Portablejim Then don't use it. It's not for everyone.

rlemon

Quick question: Why does my terminal close every time it loses focus ?? Ubuntu 11.10 32bit

Oli

@rlemon sounds like it's crashing... I'd normally say "run it in a terminal" to see the output but that seems foolish in this case :)

Roland Taylor

use xterm

alt+f2

-> xterm

Oli

15:36

You could jump to a TTY and run it from there. Control+Alt+F1, run: DISPLAY=:0 gnome-terminal and C+A+F7 to see it. Crash it and then go back to TTY1

Roland Taylor

xterm is easier :)

Oli

Or yeah, debug it from another terminal emulator like xterm :)

rlemon

@RolandTaylor great, as a workaround ok... but I would still like to know why? Fresh install last night - only things i've installed are git, chromium, and all of the updates that have come through. ohh and gedit plugins.

Oli

I find a solution is better based on the number of keys you have to hold down at once. You're only using two at once @RolandTaylor. That's not for me.

I don't feel I've helped until I've suggested somebody gets their feet on the keyboard.

rlemon

i use my nose..

works for light switches when your hands are full as well.

Roland Taylor

15:38

@rlemon I meant...

run xterm, and then run gnome-terminal from inside :)

Oli

I played something ages ago that required a mouse, the number-pad and... the space bar. I remember using my elbow for some of the moves in that

rlemon

@RolandTaylor ahhh.. ok will try that.

Roland Taylor

(aren't we trying to fix gnome-terminal here?)

:D

@Oli wow... you're so 1999!

:P

rlemon

@Oli I remember SNES and PS1 macros that involved a couple rulers, a few books, and a delicate balance to hold down the buttons.

Roland Taylor

(don't worry I'm not part of the iCrapMySelf generation either)

Oli

15:40

I'm tempted to find the game (I think I could remember it if I tried) but I'm scared that would really show my age :)

Roland Taylor

:>

I grew up in that time period, but didn't have the game consoles :(

Oli

Cripes. It's not even that old. 1998. Die By The Sword.

rlemon

meh, i'm only 25 - but I can proudly say I don't own an Apple product. Not because I don't think they arn't good products, but because I don't want to pay 200% more for a fad.

Roland Taylor

BTW, I'll be 24 on the 27th of next month :)...

Oli

Eugh. It looked better in my imagination. That game has not aged well.

Roland Taylor

15:42

you still have enough time to shower me with love and attention (in a tangible form ofc)

rlemon

I still make the stand that Mechwarrior 2 was an epic game.

Oli

@rlemon It was

Roland Taylor

@Oli yeah D:

nothing beats Descent!

(the first one)

Oli

Little Big Adventure was a laugh if you enjoyed failing really hard all the time.

First game I had for my first CDROM drive.

Roland Taylor

I never played that, but I remember it :P

rlemon

15:44

I was about 13 when I discovered Ultima Online.... My life was a Burrito and Britannia filled mess for the next 8 years

anyways.. back to work. gonna have to solve this terminal problem when I get home.

Roland Taylor

lol cool

gonna get back to writing myself

rlemon

bahaha, turns out they wern't crashing they were hiding themselves.. along with every other window I had had open since last night - I guess a few more updates came through and were causing a glitch in my Unity to show nothing running and at the same time never close what you opened.

rebooted and alls fine

Stefano Palazzo

@RolandTaylor I know you're careful about what you post. I'd like to read some of the dialog some time, that's my favourite part of any book. I'd love to see a sample of a scene with lots of dialog.

WarriorIng64

Does this belong on Ask Ubuntu, or should it probably go to Meta?

0

Q: Any Stack (ask Ubuntu) software

Is there Any new Stack software for Ubuntu 11.10 So i can manage from desktop Stack Applet 1.4 is not Working (not finding my username)

11.10 packages

Stefano Palazzo

@GeorgeEdison ping ↑

jrg

15:59

@StefanoPalazzo isn't that a dupe?

Stefano Palazzo

@WarriorIng64 I think this can be closed as a duplicate of the meta question about software for askubuntu

WarriorIng64

Do you have a link I can use when flagging it?

Bakhtiyor

guys can you please explain this record in iptables - -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 3306 -j DROP

I am totally newbie in firewalls

thnx

Stefano Palazzo

@WarriorIng64 no need to flag, I'll just close it

WarriorIng64

@StefanoPalazzo Okay, thanks.

Stefano Palazzo

16:01

mh.. I can't close it as a dupe of a meta question, so I'll have to migrate then close.

Amith KK

Hello all

Stefano Palazzo

thanks for bringing it up. A link to the dupe is always better than some half-hearted answer

omg

what have I done now. it seems I've deleted the question somehow :D

Amith KK

@StefanoPalazzo Press undelete?

"closed as exact duplicate by Stefano Palazzo♦ just now"

Stefano Palazzo

okay, eveything's cool. I though there might be a problem if I migrate the question twice, but it's just recognized that there already is a copy on meta.

Amith KK

wait, its auto?

Bakhtiyor

16:08

- -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 3306 -j DROP

could anybody explain me that rule pls

?

Stefano Palazzo

@AmithKK Yes. Migrating a question means closing it as off topic. You then get a chance to say that it belongs on another site, and it'll be "re-posted" there, on behalf of the OP. which means the original question is merely "closed as off-topic", and it's title is changed automatically.

Amith KK

oh

@Bakhtiyor no idea :)

what is sshfs , Heard it on blinkenshell

Oli

@Bakhtiyor looks like it's dropping incoming TCP connections on port 3306 (MySQL)

@AmithKK It's a userspace tool for mounting SSH destinations locally

Bakhtiyor

ok thank you

Amith KK

Is this true?:

americancensorship.org

Stefano Palazzo

16:31

I've written a program that does this, a long time ago. It could pretty much translate to any word you like, if you were patient enough.

I'll check out if they still have this great API some time (:

jokerdino

The API is not free anymore.

Amith KK

@jokerdino ?

Stefano Palazzo

oh :\

jokerdino

googlecode.blogspot.com/2011/08/… I guess.

Stefano Palazzo

says the V1 API will be shut off at the end of this year, december first

because of "extensive abuse"

Oli

16:33

And: "Google Translate API v2 is now available as a paid service. The courtesy limit for existing Translate API v2 projects created prior to August 24, 2011 will be reduced to zero on Dec 1, 2011. In addition, the number of requests your application can make per day will be limited."

It's a shame but you can't really complain - you were just getting it free before.

jokerdino

"extensive abuse" @StefanoPalazzo your program might be one of those. :P

Stefano Palazzo

yes :D

okay, this is my first query:

{
    "responseData": null,
    "responseDetails": "Suspected Terms of Service Abuse. Please see code.google.com/apis/errors";,
    "responseStatus": 403
}

:(

Amith KK

O.o

Stefano Palazzo

(403 means "Payment Required" in HTTP-speak)

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Amith KK

I really dont blame em'

jokerdino

16:39

I don't blame them either.

In a really slow Internet, what can I really do?

Stefano Palazzo

(HTTP status 418 means "I'm a Teapot", "The resulting entity body MAY be short and stout.")

6

jokerdino

I am connected to my neighbour's password-less WiFi.

Stefano Palazzo

;)

Amith KK

@StefanoPalazzo What the......

jokerdino

Or may be I should connect to my dad's WiFi.

Amith KK

16:43

@jokerdino Hey if you've got @Oli 's Antenna Connect to mine ;)

Ok, thats just awful

jokerdino

Yes it is.

How do I set my time to Chennai... Hmm

10 kb/s :O

jrg

ok, why do people define their database info in five different places in their 400+-file PHP SITE?!

I don't have time to track that down!

Amith KK

@jrg Because their tacky like that :)

@jokerdino Its GMT +5:30(Kolkata)

jokerdino

There is no Chennai in the map?

:O

jrg

@AmithKK I'm never going to use MySQL, or PHP

jokerdino

16:49

I can only find Colombo.

Marco Ceppi

@jrg grep, grep, grep

Amith KK

jrg

@MarcoCeppi grep, grep, grep, grep grep failed me today.

I <3 my rails SQLite dbs now. :P

No need to define it in a hundred different files, just type in require activerecord and you're done. :P

jokerdino

Between iPhone and Android, I would prefer the latter. But, now I need to choose between them. :O

Who has suggestions?

Amith KK

Me!!!

jrg

16:54

I like my iPod touch, the Android devices I've played with had a tendency to crash and burn on me.

Amith KK

iPhone

Why: Universal compatibility

jrg

@AmithKK universal compat? Explain.

Marco loves his WebOS phone. :D

Marco Ceppi

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Amith KK

Like there are a THOUSAND Android phones, all apps dont work on all phones but there is ONLY ONE iWhatever, so all apps must work on it.

jokerdino

Is that a brick or a bar? No, that is Nokia!

jrg

16:57

@AmithKK not necessarily, i've had apps that don't work with some devices.

Amith KK

Marco Activates Sp.Ability InstaStar

jrg

but generally, that is true

Amith KK

@jrg :O

jrg

Mainly, at this point, a lot of apps won't work with a first gen iPhone, or a iPhone 3G.

Amith KK

Sorry for the ping attack :)

jrg

16:58

(although that is to be expected, since those devices are old and slow)

ping attack?!

@AmithKK did you just screw over my server or something? :P

Amith KK

@jrg No on this chat

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