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TheX

00:21

What is the best email client ever? besides outlook?

hbdgaf

thunderbird and enigmail are both good. i prefer thunderbird.

eudora was good back in the day, but thunderbird trumps.

TheX

I use to love Eudora...

What about geary?

hbdgaf

No dice for me. Never used it.

TheX

Oh I used a long time ago once...

hbdgaf

I use thunderbird for enigmail. Sometimes you have a killer app/feature for a piece of software. If geary came up first in google for pgp gpg email ... and it worked as well - i might use itt.

chaskes

00:28

I think claws is popular when you want something light.

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

00:38

0

Q: Laptop unusable after emptying recycling bin

For a long time I've been wanting to get into Linux so I asked my friend if I could borrow his laptop (he's running Ubuntu). I was playing with it for a while and getting used to it, I saw his recycling bin (/bin/) had 7MB of stuff in it so I thought I might empty it and now I can't open any pro...

ubuntu

Seth

01:06

@chaskes I thought mail was good for going light :P

hbdgaf

You meant mutt... but I'm not arguing. Still, I like something feature competitive to Thunderbird with Enigmail.

Seth

well actually I was thinking of mailx but I've never used it so perhaps it doesn't do quite what I think it does.

hbdgaf

Oh, I certainly don't use mutt any more... but it's the "normal" answer for rock solid cli email clients.

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

0

Q: Ubuntu: Is it viable to run Live Linux on a Laptop with a failing hard drive?

I have determined using Hiren's Boot CD that my hard drive is in fact failing. It started by failing to boot into Windows or Linux partitions on my computer, and then I downloaded Hiren's, burned to a live USB and ran a few tests, indicating my hard drive was failing. So my question isn't about ...

linux ubuntu live-usb

Seth

01:24

Reading a Ubuntu Forums post. "Please delete your Xorg.conf and run this command to generate a new one." "That didn't work but I ran this weird script and it fixed everything. What does it do?" "It generates a new Xorg.conf and replaces the old one". Made me giggle a bit.

chaskes

01:40

I use mutt for reading system mail. Makes me feel like I got into Unix back when I should have.

RPi Awesomeness

02:44

@hbdgaf So, you're saying move everything down, but keep the "It's what everyone's talking about" thing?

Matt

what is the proper way to write a conditional that will target a filename that has whitespace?

Seth

03:03

Can you be a little more specific @Matt?

TheX

yay first thunderstorm of 2015 hope the power doesn't go out!

Nathan Osman

My Raspberry Pi 2 arrives tomorrow. Since my Internet is so slow and since we were at McDonald's for super, I made use of their Wi-Fi to download the Ubuntu disk image and snappy core.

@RPiAwesomeness can sympathize with me :)

Matt

Im trying to do two things.. set a variable that will run through a filename and see if it has whitespace for a conditional.. and Im trying to set a variable based off a partial filename.. looking at my notes and I dont see it

TheX

@NathanOsman you can borrow my internet anytime.

bandwidthplace.com/speedtest-results/…

Seth

03:19

@Matt so detect if a filename contains whitespace?

Matt

ya I have about 5k worth of files

Im also looking to set a variable based on if a filename has foobar then Im going to write a conditional for that

Seth

Does it have to be shell?

I'm thinking this would be easier in python.

Matt

would prefer

everything else Im doing with it is through bash

Seth

Have you taken a look here @Matt?

7

Q: how to check if a string has spaces in bash shell

say a string might be like "a b '' c '' d", how can I check that there is single/double quote and space contained in the string?

bash shell string

TheX

@RPiAwesomeness arond?

Matt

03:29

@Seth ah.. great, I will read on that, Ive been in unix/linux

Seth

03:43

This seems to work too @Matt: find -name "* *".

find is pretty powerful and you should be able to tailor it further as needed.

Matt

blasted.. I need to stay frequent in my scripting

Seth

I'm off to bed now!

Matt

later and thanks!

Seth

Better yet use find -type f -name "* *".

Matt

still trying to see how to set Foobar_[0-9]{4}\.jpg as a variable..

abhi

04:53

Hi

Nathan Osman

05:25

I uploaded another 4K video.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, Bad keyword in body, Blacklisted website: Herbal And Dietary Supplement For Weight Loos by Segan Tekle on askubuntu.com

Nathan Osman

Lol... "weight loos".

Nathan Osman

06:35

@TheX bandwidthplace.com/speedtest-results/…

A.B.

08:12

Is "fstab" a good idea?

0

Q: rsync script not working

I have a external USB drive that I use for backups. I wrote a bash script for rsync and it's worked flawlessly before. Tonight, I set the USB to mount in fstab and now when I try to run the rsync script it doesn't work. However, if I copy and paste the command from my bash script into a terminal,...

backup rsync

SmokeDetector

08:40

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: http://faceliftgymhelp.com/luxoderm-cream/ by majfppd Rioe on askubuntu.com

SmokeDetector

09:04

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: How to create a screencast? by William Ryan on askubuntu.com

hbdgaf

10:05

Just saw this recently... and it made me LOL pretty hard:

ByteCommander

10:16

@hbdgaf My package is still broken! But I received a wireshark update which installed correctly...

And I got a crash report window of update-notifier-common, but I have no idea how to dump its content.

Ask Ubuntu Meta

10:46

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Q: 50 Reputation on comments is too much? Add new function to suggest?

I have low reputation as you see. And the problem i see with this is, that when i try to troubleshoot someone's question that requires some active or continuous communication, or a suggestion like "try this if it works", then i probably won't put all of these above into an answer. I'd like the co...

discussion

fossfreedom

hmm @SmokeDetector - you have been very busy today...!

blade19899

> "Alternative Toolbar is a Rhythmbox plugin which replaces the default Rhythmbox toolbar with a client-side decorations (header bars) toolbar or a compact toolbar that can be hidden." - Enable Client Side Decorations For Rhyhmbox With Alternative Toolbar Plugin ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog

@fossfreedom, looks awesome!

fossfreedom

:) - cheers

cool - webupd8 covered this. That's really nice and quite flattering.

blade19899

@fossfreedom You deserve it. The Rhythmbox GUI has been atrocious for some time know. But, that stops now! Thanks!

ByteCommander

@blade19899 Hey! You weren't around for a while...

Still using Tox?

blade19899

10:58

@ByteCommander Got a new place. Haven't had Internet for 3 WEEKS!

ByteCommander

Ouch... I hope it is nice now. :)

blade19899

@ByteCommander Still have it installed! :)

@ByteCommander Home is were the WIFI connects!

ByteCommander

You know I installed it too...

blade19899

@ByteCommander I know, I already have you on my list!

ByteCommander

I only used it once with a friend who has µTox on Win7.

blade19899

11:00

@ByteCommander I don't use it that often, since not allot of people have it. Yet.

ByteCommander

@blade19899 Does Audio chat and picture uploading work for you?

We could not get it to work...

blade19899

@ByteCommander Haven't test it

ByteCommander

You could do now... I would be interested if it is just a problem of µTox for Win7 or if we did something wrong.

blade19899

@ByteCommander Sure, no problem

ByteCommander

Mine is online, if you have time.

blade19899

11:03

So is mine.

Lol, gimme your ID

OW wait

i see you typing

ByteCommander

I sent you a message.

Fabby

11:14

@ByteCommander: let's see how much I remember?

(sorry for being late: I was being skyped by someone)

ByteCommander

@Fabby Hi. I'm just Toxing blade...

Fabby

@ByteCommander Just found the other room

blade19899

qtox works pretty well

Now, after a year, I am going to reinstall Ubuntu 14.04 Trusty Thar. So stable, but I installed so much crap on it!

Bye ya'all

RPi Awesomeness

11:49

@NathanOsman xD Nice one. I can't say that I've used McDonald's internet before, but yeah, I can sympathize :0

@TheX No. @RPiAwesomeness is currently unavailable ;)

Yeah, I'm on now.

^ newest version. Grew the Pi logo like @hbdgaf suggested and reversed which leaf he was holding and moved the "It's what everyone ..." to the bottom.

Fire Phone Review by Jordan Keyes

I heard those were exceptionally overpriced for what you were getting.

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

13:10

0

Q: Packets drops seen in physical interface while using kvm bridge

In ubuntu kvm hypervisor we are seeing packet drops in the physical interfaces once we create the bridge. Below is the output of ifconfig, br1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx inet addr:10.45.16.xx Bcast:10.45.23.255 Mask:255.255.248.0 inet6 addr: fe80::baca:3...

ubuntu

RPi Awesomeness

13:25

Is AU slow for anyone else? Or is it just my slow internet acting up again? 'cause it simply will not load :P

Hmm...it would seem to be the entire SE network is slow

user136984

Could someone take a look at my question here please:

user136984

0

Q: Chrome thinks that I am holding down CTRL when I am not

I have not had this problem in a long time with Google Chrome on Ubuntu. But as it keeps on coming back now, I thought that I should ask a question here. So the problem is that suddenly for no apparent reason Chrome will start to behave as if every click and key that I press is done at the same ...

keyboard shortcut-keys google-chrome

user136984

:)

ByteCommander

@Toroidal What about smacking the Ctrl-key furiously with a rainbow trout?

user136984

@ByteCommander Well, I tried pressing Ctrl many times, but still the problem stayed. And don't think that I have any fish in the house... :D :P

ByteCommander

13:38

Well, then it does not work... Often the keyboard keys "hang" and stay pressed after you release it...

Anyway, could somebody please help me with my broken update-notifier-common package? It's essential!

user136984

@ByteCommander Why don't you just try reinstalling it?

user136984

Or does it not work like that...? :)

ByteCommander

@Toroidal Problem is that this u-n-c package is ESSENTIAL.

Removing it will also remove all DEs and a lot of other vital stuff!

And a --reinstall doesn't work:

root@AlkaliMetal:~# apt-get install update-notifier-common --reinstall
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 reinstalled, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
3 not fully installed or removed.
After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used.
E: Internal Error, No file name for update-notifier-common:i386

It is in an somehow installed but unconfigured state, I assume. That's why reinstall doesn't find it(?).

user136984

@ByteCommander Could you not manually configure it if you find out how it should be configured?

ByteCommander

@Toroidal how? Never did that before...

user136984

13:48

@ByteCommander Well, when it was installed files were just copied and modified (and possibly some deleted, but that's not the point), so if something went wrong and not all files where correctly copied or modified, then just have a look at a .deb file copy of the package and see how everything could have gone. Or just contact someone who manages the package.

ByteCommander

@Toroidal I never touched a .deb except with dpkg -i...

ByteCommander

14:19

Please help me! Anybody?

0

Q: Messed up "update-notifier-common"-package - debian.deb882 not found

Unfortunately, when attempting to reinstall ttf-mscorefonts-installer and flasplayer-instaler, I got the error that update-notifier-common is not working. According to root@AlkaliMetal:~# dpkg -s update-notifier-common Package: update-notifier-common Status: install ok half-configured Priority...

apt package-management python dpkg deb

@terdon Sorry for disturbing you, but you were able to help me many times, maybe this time too?

RPi Awesomeness

Final version.

Anyone want to voice any qualms with it before I upload?

ByteCommander

@RPiAwesomeness The angles of the text lines are too similar. I would either make them equal or more different.

RPi Awesomeness

@ByteCommander Hmm?

Where?

ByteCommander

The 2nd and 3rd line are both horizontally, while the 1st line is slightly tilted.

RPi Awesomeness

@ByteCommander It's supposed to be that way. Look up 1960s advertising, I'm trying to go for that sort of look

ByteCommander

14:23

This makes the 2nd line look tilted to the other side...

Maybe tilting the 2nd line equally to the 1st would look better.

RPi Awesomeness

Un-tilting really doesn't look to me:

... I don't really like that either.

ByteCommander

I would prefer the last one to be honest.

RPi Awesomeness

It's not bad, but getting the white space on the left right is going to be a nightmare :P

ByteCommander

Don't tell me about nightmares! Wanna solve my package problems? THAT is a nightmare.

RPi Awesomeness

Thanks for the input :)

@ByteCommander :P I'd rather not

:)

ByteCommander

14:27

That's what I expected... >:P

RPi Awesomeness

Honestly, I wouldn't be able to help :(

RPi Awesomeness

14:39

@Mateo You nearby?

Mateo

Hi

RPi Awesomeness

What think you of those two designs?

Mateo

Like the angle of the top text on me last, not the middle text, and line up the bottom text with the other two on the left

RPi Awesomeness

o.O I am having trouble deciphering that...

Mateo

@RPiAwesomeness like that one but align the text on the bottom

RPi Awesomeness

14:44

@Mateo Ahhh

I see

ByteCommander

@Mateo Do you know about package problem fixes?

Mateo

What error are you getting

ByteCommander

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Q: Messed up "update-notifier-common"-package - debian.deb882 not found

Unfortunately, when attempting to reinstall ttf-mscorefonts-installer and flasplayer-instaler, I got the error that update-notifier-common is not working. According to root@AlkaliMetal:~# dpkg -s update-notifier-common Package: update-notifier-common Status: install ok half-configured Priority...

apt package-management python dpkg deb

Mateo

That q up there?

Ah

ByteCommander

Oh yes... :-/

Mateo

14:46

Why root?

ByteCommander

Just to not having to sudo all the time.

Mateo

:/

ByteCommander

It's a sudo -i shell from my user.

And as every apt and dpkg needs root - why not?

I only use it for this one, not that you think I'm always root!

Mateo

OK...

Can you install aptitude

ByteCommander

I think so. Wait...

Is already installed.

Mateo

14:50

try

sudo aptitude install update-notifier-common

See what it asks to do...

ByteCommander

Much...:

root@AlkaliMetal:~# aptitude install update-notifier-common
The following partially installed packages will be configured:
  update-notifier-common
No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking 0 B will be used.
Setting up update-notifier-common (3.157) ...
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib/update-notifier/package-data-downloader", line 24, in <module>
    import debian.deb822

Mateo

Huh, so same thing....

ByteCommander

I already tried reinstalling some python packages as I read that can solve the debian.deb882-thing, but no success. It's either not the cause or I took the wrong packages.

Mateo

sudo apt-get --reinstall install python-debian

Like that

ByteCommander

I think I tried that one, but I'll do again...

Mateo

14:55

Try the reinstall option on update notifier common too

ByteCommander

root@AlkaliMetal:~# apt-get --reinstall install python-debian
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 reinstalled, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
1 not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0 B/54.8 kB of archives.
After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used.
(Reading database ... 339109 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack .../python-debian_0.1.22ubuntu1_all.deb ...

root@AlkaliMetal:~# apt-get install --reinstall update-notifier-common
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 reinstalled, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
1 not fully installed or removed.
After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used.
E: Internal Error, No file name for update-notifier-common:i386
root@AlkaliMetal:~#

Mateo

32 or 64 bit?

ByteCommander

No success. I tried both commands several times yet. I have only 32Bit

I think the way to solve this is to
1) solve the debian.deb882 error occurring when I try to reconfigure the package
2) reconfigure the package update-notifier-common

Or what do you think?

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

0

Q: How can i find the cause of file corruption when copying files to a network share on a ubuntu machine

i am copying files from my SD card to my ubuntu server via Windows 7 using a network drive. The problem is that sometimes, 2 files out of 150, are corrupted during transfer. See here 2 example files in hex compare, left side original, right side how it is stored on server. They differ in ~10kB....

ubuntu filesystems samba ext4 corruption

user136984

I am very glad that you can convert Strings to Ints in most programming languages... Saves a lot of time...

Mateo

15:09

Try some of the other answers on here:

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Q: apt-get broken: No module named debian.deb822

sys.path: ['/usr/lib/update-notifier', '/usr/local/lib/python26.zip', '/usr/local/lib/python2.6', '/usr/local/lib/python2.6/plat-linux3', '/usr/local/lib/python2.6/lib-tk', '/usr/local/lib/python2.6/lib-old', '/usr/local/lib/python2.6/lib-dynload', '/usr/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages'] te...

apt package-management debian

ByteCommander

@Mateo I tried answer #1 and #2 (sorted by votes) unsuccessfully. I did not try to remove update-notifier-common, because that will also remove all my DEs and another few vital packages!

Mateo

What packages?

List them, they might be able to be reinstalled after that one is fixed

ByteCommander

root@AlkaliMetal:~# apt-get remove update-notifier-common
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  ubuntu-desktop ubuntu-release-upgrader-gtk update-manager update-notifier
  update-notifier-common xubuntu-desktop
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 6 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
1 not fully installed or removed.
After this operation, 3837 kB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n
Abort.
root@AlkaliMetal:~#

Mateo

You will be fine ubuntu-desktop is meta package

ByteCommander

So it will not remove my DEs?

Well, 3.8MB do not cover a whole DE - you might be right...

So I hit "y" then on your responsibility...

Mateo

15:18

It is a meta package, installing it installs a group of packages but does not uninstall them

So, after you fix it just reinstall ubuntu-desktop

ByteCommander

Fail!

I removed it, then did the whole set of clean, autoclean and autoremove, then reinstalled python-debian, then installed update-notifier-common --> Same debian.deb882 error!

Mateo

What about purging that package

ByteCommander

@Mateo What shall I try now?

Okay...

Does this look okay: ?

root@AlkaliMetal:~# apt-get purge update-notifier-common
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  update-notifier-common*
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
1 not fully installed or removed.
After this operation, 2142 kB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
(Reading database ... 339012 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing update-notifier-common (3.157) ...

The warnings at the bottom.

Should I manually delete those directories?

Mateo

Huh, partial download....

That could be the problem

ByteCommander

So delete them with rm -r /var/lib/update-notifier/ or just the mentioned subdirectories?

Mateo?

Mateo

15:27

Maybe mv move them in case you need them later?

Otherwise yeah make it like new!

RPi Awesomeness

Youtube suggested tags ... wut?

ByteCommander

@Mateo I did root@AlkaliMetal:~# mv /var/lib/update-notifier/ /home/bytecommander/uncbackup/

And now?

Mateo

Try installing that package now

ByteCommander

@Mateo I reinstalled python-debian and then installed the unc, but still the same debian.deb882 error! >:P

RPi Awesomeness

Ladies and Gentlemen, we are live:

Raspberry Pi 2 Model B Testing!

►

cc @Seth @Mateo @TheX

ByteCommander

15:58

@Mateo Any ideas left about that debian.deb882?

@NathanOsman Are you around? Maybe you as an app developer can help me with my package mess - I bet python is involved.

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Q: Messed up "update-notifier-common"-package / debian.deb882 not found

Unfortunately, when attempting to reinstall ttf-mscorefonts-installer and flasplayer-installer, I got the error that update-notifier-common is not working. According to root@AlkaliMetal:~# dpkg -s update-notifier-common Package: update-notifier-common Status: install ok half-configured Priorit...

apt package-management python dpkg deb

@terdon Would you eventually come over and help me finding out why that package does not get configured, please?

Nathan Osman

16:17

@ByteCommander Sorry for the delay.

I just have something I need to do quickly.

RPi Awesomeness

For those who like Classical

ByteCommander

@NathanOsman Thanks very much for coming over! You see the question I posted above?

Short Summary:

I reinstalled flashplayer- and mscorefonts-installer --> got error that update-notifier-common is broken

Tried reinstall, reconfigure, etc... --> does not work because of missing module debian.deb882

I tried purging the unc, reinstalling python-debian, installing unc, but no success.

Do you have an idea?

RPi Awesomeness

Yo-Yo Ma, Stuart Duncan, Edgar Meyer, Chris Thile - Attaboy (Audio)

►

For those who don't have Spotify

ByteCommander

<-- is not really in music mood now...

Nathan Osman

16:40

@ByteCommander: try reinstalling the python-debian and python3-debian packages.

According to this page, those packages provide the deb822.py file.

Oh wait. I see you tried that already.

Seth

@RPiAwesomeness Anything with Yo'Yo Ma is bound to be good!

As a return for the favour:

ByteCommander

wait?

Seth

Spring Tide by Tony Banks

►

RPi Awesomeness

@Seth Indeed, it is :)

Seth

o_O

That's a weird picture.

Nathan Osman

16:42

@ByteCommander I missed that you did that already.

Seth

Well the music is nice anyway.

RPi Awesomeness

@Seth Indeed it is :D

Oooo. I like

Nathan Osman

@ByteCommander: can you verify that /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/debian/deb822.py exists?

ByteCommander

@NathanOsman I only reinstalled the python-debian, not python3-debian!

Nathan Osman

Well, I suppose you could try that.

RPi Awesomeness

16:43

@Seth favour? Aren't you American...? ;)

ByteCommander

@NathanOsman exists.

Mateo

What about purging and reinstalling those

Nathan Osman

@ByteCommander Odd.

Mateo

@RPiAwesomeness Firefox defaults to UK spell check

Nathan Osman

@blade19899 McDonald's is where the Wi-Fi connects :P

I guess that's home?

Mateo

16:44

On Ubuntu... They should totally fix that...

ByteCommander

@Mateo Purging a python package? Isn't that dangerous?

Mateo

Is it?

ByteCommander

I don't know? I heard that python is vital for Ubuntu...

Mateo

Sure, but you will reinstall it right?

RPi Awesomeness

@Mateo It does, it's annoying :P

Nathan Osman

16:47

Mine switched to Spanish for no reason.

I had to go to about:config to revert to US English.

ByteCommander

@Mateo Okay, so apt-get purge python-debian python3-debian && apt-get install python-debian python3-debian?

Awal Garg

Hi Ubuntuers!

Does converting a python gui app from a set of python scripts to a .deb installer file give any benefits?

RPi Awesomeness

@NathanOsman On the start screen?

Nathan Osman

Start screen?

about:config is a special Firefox URL.

ByteCommander

That looks not good:

Seth

16:53

@RPiAwesomeness I am American, but I prefer British spellings for some things (and even a few pronunciations)

ByteCommander

root@AlkaliMetal:~# apt-get purge python-debian python3-debian
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  android-tools-adb android-tools-fastboot at autopilot-desktop bzr
  click-doc debian-archive-keyring devscripts distro-info distro-info-data
  docutils-common docutils-doc dput gdb-multiarch intltool libbotan-1.10-0
  libcontent-hub-doc libdistro-info-perl liberror-perl libexporter-lite-perl

Mateo

@ByteCommander did it work?

ByteCommander

I fear that should not be answered with yes...^

RPi Awesomeness

@Seth I see.

ByteCommander

It will remove a huge load of packages!

Awal Garg

16:54

Wait, why are you removing python?

Nathan Osman

0

Q: Messed up "update-notifier-common"-package / debian.deb882 not found

Unfortunately, when attempting to reinstall ttf-mscorefonts-installer and flasplayer-installer, I got the error that update-notifier-common is not working. According to root@AlkaliMetal:~# dpkg -s update-notifier-common Package: update-notifier-common Status: install ok half-configured Priorit...

apt package-management python dpkg deb

RPi Awesomeness

@ByteCommander Wait...why are you purging it? Doesn't install --reinstall work?

Nathan Osman

We're trying to get that fixed.

ByteCommander

@AwalGarg To reinstall it. debian.deb882 is missing

@RPiAwesomeness Tried many times. No change.

RPi Awesomeness

@NathanOsman No, that page that comes up when you first start up firefox. Sorry, meant home page.

Awal Garg

16:55

oh. well, quite a situation.

RPi Awesomeness

@ByteCommander Oh. I see

ByteCommander

Anyway, I aborted purging.

Nathan Osman

@ByteCommander Do those files exist (the Python ones)?

13 mins ago, by Nathan Osman

@ByteCommander: can you verify that /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/debian/deb822.py exists?

Mateo

@ByteCommander just a handful, the others it just said it didn't need

Awal Garg

maybe you can also pass the autoremove flag with a -simulation switch and see how much space it clears. That might give an idea?

ByteCommander

16:56

root@AlkaliMetal:~# ls /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/debian/
__init__.py changelog.py debfile.py debtags.py
__init__.pyc changelog.pyc debfile.pyc debtags.pyc
arfile.py deb822.py debian_support.py deprecation.py
arfile.pyc deb822.pyc debian_support.pyc deprecation.pyc

Nathan Osman

Okay, so it's definitely there.

For some reason, Python can't find it...

ByteCommander

So what shall I do now? I guess I won't purge it now... or yes?

Nathan Osman

Probably not a good idea.

Try opening a terminal and running python. Then in the Python interpreter, try this:

import debian.deb822

RPi Awesomeness

@Seth I feel like I've heard that Tony Banks piece somewhere before ... some movie ...

It's very good, but where is it from ... ugh, that's going to annoy me :P

ByteCommander

bytecommander@AlkaliMetal:~$ python
Python 2.7.8 (default, Oct 20 2014, 15:09:44)
[GCC 4.9.1] on linux2
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> import debian.deb882
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
ImportError: No module named debian.deb882
>>>

Nathan Osman

16:59

One more thing to try:

import sys
print sys.path

That will tell us where Python is looking for modules.

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