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Fabby

21:00

@Whaaaaaat: I like the handle and I've seen you leave some intelligent comments

So yes...

Whaaaaaat

Simple. @Whaaaaaat is @DoorHandle on a different site. @DoorHandle is @Whaaaaaat's profile on Lifehacks, and Doorknob's worst enemy. @Whaaaaaat is sorta (?) respected by Doorknob, but not when he is @DoorHandle.

2

make sense?

Fabby

:D

Totally!

Whaaaaaat

evil gpl is evil

Fabby

I should visit lifehacks some time

Whaaaaaat

wtfpl.net <-- best license ever (minor cursing)

ByteCommander

21:01

@Whaaaaaat That's definitely an extreme case of schizophrenia! ;D

Fabby

Because I've left a lifehack solution for someone hitting his CD-Rom with his knee

all the time, and he had a laugh,

but someone else took offense

at a hardware solution. >:)

Whaaaaaat

@ByteCommander nah. it's my worse-tempered alter ego that causes Doorknob to reach for the kick button.

simply because i'm his archnemesis.

ByteCommander

@Fabby Me too, remember? That's why I this time was faster than you and already extended my SE account to lifehacks some days ago!

Whaaaaaat

lol pls.

i'm user 49 on lifehacks

private beta 4dayz

Fabby

I'm lurking in the shadows at U&L now...

ByteCommander

21:04

But afaik I did not leave any tracks there (maybe 1 answer or so?), as there is pretty few traffic, at least in comparison to AU.

Whaaaaaat

au is one of the biggest SE sites out there

Fabby

Third I think

Whaaaaaat

SO, SU, AU

yep

ByteCommander

SU?

Ah, Super User !?!

Whaaaaaat

yes

going only by userbase.

if by questions, we're the #5 site

Fabby

21:06

Does crap count???

Whaaaaaat

yes

#4 for Q/D

Fabby

because then we're #1

ByteCommander

Time for some promotion?

Whaaaaaat

#5 by answers

we're very low on the "answered questions" leaderboard

we are the 5th from the bottom with answered questions

Fabby

I get the hint:

back to the Q&A!

bye

Whaaaaaat

21:08

bye

guys, LIFEHACKS is beating us at answers/question!

Virusboy

it just started and has a kneejerk:serious ratio of 10:1/3

RPi_Awesomeness

@Fabby No, I believe that's the efi partition. So, sorta.

Heeey, it's @Whaaaaaat :D

Fabby

Then you'll need to grub-install after the move... You got a CD/usb ready for that???

Whaaaaaat

hello pi

RPi_Awesomeness

@Fabby I've got my LiveUSB

Whaaaaaat

21:14

i'm back from my break

jrg

So my new laptop shipped. thanks @Seth for the recommendation.

Virusboy

wb

RPi_Awesomeness

/ (including /boot I believe) is on the second, ext4 partition.

Whaaaaaat

opinion needed: what is the best intel i7 i can get for the least amount of money?

what is the point where the cost no longer meets performance?

RPi_Awesomeness

5620k IIRC.

Or is the 5920k...

just a sec

Virusboy

21:16

970 @Whaaaaaat

RPi_Awesomeness

@Virusboy That's GPU

Virusboy

i7 Intel 970

RPi_Awesomeness

Ooooh.

True

Whaaaaaat

@RPi_Awesomeness pcpartpicker.com/user/pacificfils/saved/7PB48d

that is my ultra-high-end-never-gon-happen-build.

Virusboy

intel EEs are over hyped

Whaaaaaat

21:17

the sound settings i'm planning with that are awesome

also, @RPi_Awesomeness any good hardware raid devices? (must have raid10)

RPi_Awesomeness

@Whaaaaaat Um. I'm not the person to ask - I haven't done anything with RAID and don't plan to for a while.

Virusboy

Anything Seagate/WD

Whaaaaaat

because fakeraid is annoying.

RPi_Awesomeness

@Whaaaaaat Um. I'm not the person to ask - I haven't done anything with RAID and don't plan to for a while.

Whaaaaaat

doublepost

RPi_Awesomeness

21:19

Avoid Seagate. WD is much better

Virusboy

O.o no avoid anything but seagate/WD

Whaaaaaat

pi, what do you think of uberbuild there?

RPi_Awesomeness

Avoid Seagate. WD is much better

jrg

If you're in a position to get like, 8 seagates and put them into a raid array...

then it's fine

Whaaaaaat

i'd do a raid 110

jrg

21:20

lol

Whaaaaaat

make 4 raid0s

put 2 raid0s together to make a raid1

RPi_Awesomeness

@Whaaaaaat It's very good.

Though WD or Hitachi is better than Toshiba

Virusboy

HItachi is garbage

RPi_Awesomeness

Well...I'm applying it.

Whaaaaaat

put two raid10s to make a raid110.

jrg

21:21

get a WD

if you can. next best is a high-end seagate.

RPi_Awesomeness

^ that

jrg

then everything else comes in

RPi_Awesomeness

@Fabby If I can't boot, what to do with grub-repair?

jrg

they are all made in the same place, only diff is the warranty

RPi_Awesomeness

@Whaaaaaat One thing I would suggest is getting the Define R5 - it's supposed to be one of the best cases out there. Or the NZXT H440.

They're both awesome cases

Seth

21:23

@jrg cool! I hope it works out for you :)

Fabby

@RPi_Awesomeness boot livecd and do a

jrg

@Seth cool.

Seth

I personally hate gaming laptops, but I find I am in the minority :P

jrg

should arrive tomorrow.

Fabby

(looking for your scxreenshot

jrg

21:24

Hey, couldn't beat the price for what it was.

Virusboy

@Seth you are not alone

Fabby

@RPi_Awesomeness sudo grub-install /dev/sda

jrg

@Seth $1k for a quad, 16GB, 256SSD, 15", dedicated GPU. Was hard to find anything in that price range.

RPi_Awesomeness

@jrg That's a decent deal :)

Virusboy

idk

RPi_Awesomeness

21:25

k. Applying.

Eek.

jrg

@RPi_Awesomeness good luck!

we are here for you if something breaks.

Virusboy

i find gaming laptops to break easier than standard laptops

Seth

@jrg oh quite right. Nothing against it or your getting it.

I also don't like red lol.

RPi_Awesomeness

I would love a gaming laptop. Though a Dell XPS 13 wouldn't be bad either :D

Oh joy. Lots of data copying :)

Whaaaaaat

@Seth i don't like them. i have one, but i'd much rather have a good desktop.

but i do like the portability of gaming.

user136984

21:30

Is it good to get a version of Ubuntu still in ALPHA development?

RPi_Awesomeness

On a production machine, noooo

Virusboy

@Whaaaaaat where is the Rambus RAM in the Partpicker

or how can i tell?

RPi_Awesomeness

Yay! We have boot!

And a 133GB SSD partition :)

user136984

And where can I enter and how can I enter the Ubuntu 15.04 Gnome Wallpaper Contest?

user136984

I heard that you have to do it through Flickr or something...

user136984

21:33

But not too sure.

RPi_Awesomeness

I have to say. eOS Freya is very nice.

Whaaaaaat

RPi_Awesomeness

And, having a computer that can virtualbox is nice as well :D

Whaaaaaat

sorry wrong chat.

RPi_Awesomeness

lol

RPi_Awesomeness

21:47

For whatever reason, kdenlive keeps crashing with a segfault whenever I do multiple undos in a row.

Virusboy

processes are taken up else where?

RPi_Awesomeness

Doubt it. Just kdenlive & Firefox are open...

It's a bug, but it's supposed to be fixed...

bugs.kdenlive.org/view.php?id=2042

Nathan Osman

Microsoft's new #HoloLens is actually pretty sweet. http://t.co/BaGz72FcpN

Tweeted by george_the_dev on January 21, 2015 at 9:48 PM

Got a chance to try it.

RPi_Awesomeness

Nice :D

Virusboy

Hi george

RPi_Awesomeness

21:51

HoloLens being...their attempt at Google Glass?

Virusboy

no the over 9000 attempt at Google Glass

user136984

A new flag option should be created for closing a question if it has been answered in the comments and the asker has made it clear in the comments that their problem has now been fixed by this discussion in the comments.

user136984

As I see this very often.

user136984

And even though they are answered, because it is in the comments that this has happened they still go into the unanswered list.

RPi_Awesomeness

@Toroidal Just convert the answer in the comments into an actual answer. Simple

Virusboy

21:57

its not against moral/ethic ideas and SE doesnt say no

user136984

I was wondering, I updated my JDK today (which obviously contains the JRE too). And to do so I just deleted the old one, and decompressed the tar.gz and edited my PATH variable in .bashrc. But when I ran the command "ControlPanel" in Terminal to launch the Java settings, it had saved all of my settings which I had set for the version that I deleted, so this must mean that the information was stored somewhere else on my system about the settings, so I was just wondering where that would be?

Virusboy

somewhere in usr or bin

where java would normaly be located for local settings

My build will start in 2 months with 2 parts

pcpartpicker.com/p/Js7ghM

Seth

@Whaaaaaat No it doesn't.. Whaaaaaat?

Virusboy

giggles spastically

RPi_Awesomeness

22:14

@Whaaaaaat This is the processor I was talking about. pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80648i75820k

Whaaaaaat

@Seth wat

RPi_Awesomeness

Actually, I'd suggest switching your CPU to that and your mobo to this: pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-x99ews

Whaaaaaat

which one?

RPi_Awesomeness

@Virusboy Knows what's what

Whaaaaaat

my uber build or my possible one?

RPi_Awesomeness

22:15

Well, what's the possible one?

Virusboy

@Whaaaaaat Use my build as a guide. I build this stuff for fun and could make a living off it

Whaaaaaat

pcpartpicker.com/user/pacificfils/saved/znkqqs

@Virusboy I follow nobody's advice.

Except my own

And maybe Journeyman's.

RPi_Awesomeness

@Whaaaaaat I'd probably say Uber build for that CPU, since it's X99 and all

Fabby

Can someone please star this for Oli: askubuntu.com/a/576330/344926 ??? (he should read "what the risks are"...

RPi_Awesomeness

Then again...

Whaaaaaat

22:17

@Oli chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/19659994#19659994

RPi_Awesomeness

I think that might actually be cheaper to go X99 in this case. Except for the RAM. Gosh DDR4 is expensive.

Whaaaaaat

done.

Fabby

@Whaaaaaat: still reading the WTFPL... Didn't know you had such a great sense of humour, but I suppose it goes with the personality! ;-)

Virusboy

im only doing that for RAM so i dont have to upgrade it, ever

Whaaaaaat

@Fabby i'm actually going to use that license

Fabby

22:19

I haven't read it through completely yet....

Whaaaaaat

it's really not that much

the entire license: Just do whatever the **** you want. I don't give a ****. Just change the license if you redistribue this.

Fabby

If it's compatible with the GPL, I'm contemplating of changing all my non-released open source stuff under that license...

Virusboy

prolly safer

user136984

Well goodnight to you all! I'm off to bed now! :)

Whaaaaaat

byez

Fabby

22:21

As my sister always says: Don't sign anything until you've read it all!

(she's a lawyer)

:D :D :D

Seth

choosealicense.com/licenses

Virusboy

No License?

Sound interseting

RPi_Awesomeness

looks at everyone sideways

Whaaaaaat

MIT is a good license

RPi_Awesomeness

Shhhh

I'm recording audio. Everyone be quiet

Whaaaaaat

22:23

turns sideways so RPI sees me normally

Virusboy

@RPi_Awesomeness no

@RPi_Awesomeness I

Whaaaaaat

YELL!!!!!

RPi_Awesomeness

@Whaaaaaat Oh, that's good.

Virusboy

@RPi_Awesomeness not

@RPi_Awesomeness be

@RPi_Awesomeness quiet4\

Whaaaaaat

@RPi_Awesomeness shall i bring a ping-puppet?

RPi_Awesomeness

22:23

Oh good gravy

Thank goodness I don't have speakers or throughput enabled in Audacity

Whaaaaaat

i can fix that

arbitrary code execution time!!!!

o/ @hbdgaf

Virusboy

I now have a build. It only costs 3500 and should take more than 6 months to buy everything

hbdgaf

@Whaaaaaat ohai

Whaaaaaat

my build is only 2k and i won't get it for 5 years

RPi_Awesomeness

Oh gosh. My voice is so clogged up. AHEM HEM HEM

Whaaaaaat

22:26

hem hem

RPi_Awesomeness

MAH MAY MEE MAH MOO

Whaaaaaat

--gagging noises--

RPi_Awesomeness

^ my dad does that...it's so weird

Not the gagging

Whaaaaaat

--earthquake sounds--

RPi_Awesomeness

^ he does do that.

When he's snores, you'd swear the Polar Express was going by.

...in the middle of July

Whaaaaaat

22:27

gg no re

RPi_Awesomeness

Oh snap.I'm a rapper!

Whaaaaaat

why is your profile picture your hand wrapped in toilet paper?

RPi_Awesomeness

Wut?

hbdgaf

If you really want to get a build rolling, I've always just done a barebones kit with a mobo that will support all the junk you want. Then a few "special buy" parts to get it running a little with all the on-board components. Then over time you swap things out for the component you want and turn off all the onboard crap.

Whaaaaaat

that's what it looks like

RPi_Awesomeness

22:28

I'M A GOAT!

Whaaaaaat

@hbdgaf that's my plan

RPi_Awesomeness

Gosh...

Whaaaaaat

it's still 1k for the core build

it does still look like that

hbdgaf

sounds like you have a scotch taste on a beer budget.

Whaaaaaat

i have a 500 year old whiskey taste on a tap water budget.

Virusboy

22:30

I can prolly find bundle packages in bare bones kits, this is more a check off list, but if I have to I will spend extra

hbdgaf

@Whaaaaaat The last rig I built, I just did a 300 barebones kit black friday special... then spent more on a video card than I spend on the rest of the rig and salvaged the other components from local repair shops on rigs they junked.

Free parts are the best parts.

RPi_Awesomeness

You want good deals?

pcpartpicker.com/p/gB8RCJ

^ that's my build that I just did.

I spent $623 on it - counting rebates & coupons & whatnot when I purchased.

hbdgaf

That's a little light on the power supply isn't it? Unless you plan on dropping in a second one.

RPi_Awesomeness

Remove the rebates, and it's ~$750. Or at least it was.

@hbdgaf Not really. 550W is plenty for what I've got and I don't plan on upgrading anything any time soon other than RAM or storage.

hbdgaf

Okay. I'm just sort of a whore for power hungry video cards.

RPi_Awesomeness

22:37

If I upgraded, it would be to the GTX 970, which is incredibly power efficient. I probably could stick with this PSU even if I upgraded. It'd be tight, but I could probably do it.

Virusboy

yea im over doing mine by 200W

RPi_Awesomeness

Yeah. Just stuck the ASUS GTX 970 Strix in for fun and I've still got a headroom of over 100W.

Bad @Virusboy. Bad.

Virusboy

sorry but getting a 750 is stupid

RPi_Awesomeness

@Virusboy My GPU?

hbdgaf

Yeah, I don't ever, ever, ever trust spec sheets on W pull any more. "I had a bad experience", so I overshoot the mark by A LOT. I didn't like having a $600 brick for a month.

Fabby

22:39

Gee, I leave the room to answer one question and it looks like:

Virusboy

no PS

RPi_Awesomeness

Ah

Fabby

5

Virusboy

dafuq

RPi_Awesomeness

^ that too

Virusboy

22:39

is that... Nexon/EA?

Fabby

That's how this room looks when you walk in after answering a question

hbdgaf

It just proves we all multitask well.

Fabby

A bunch of monkeys, screaming, bouncing and crapping all over the place... ;-)

RPi_Awesomeness

;)

ByteCommander

@Fabby Same impression to me. Just highlighted a few sentences to remember, really almost ROFLing...

RPi_Awesomeness

22:41

Well, at least I'm not crapping. I may be screaming and bouncing, but no pop here :)

Fabby

@hbdgaf: I must admit: I'm bad at multi-tasking!

:)

hbdgaf

Well that explains why it looks like a pile of crap instead of three conversations going on at once ;)

RPi_Awesomeness

Okay. Honestly. I cannot say "this is a tutorial" with slurring together "this is a" into "thississa"

I have some form of strange lisp

No programming joke intended

Virusboy

sure you just aint drunk

RPi_Awesomeness

eeYup hick. Ize totesally shober.

hbdgaf

22:44

speaking of, whose cruel idea was it to put a s in the word lisp? "I'm thorry, I have a lithp"

2

@RPi_Awesomeness ^^

RPi_Awesomeness

I lotht my lithp! I think I left it in my name.

The strangest quote from when I was younger

Dinnae ask me why I remember that.

Virusboy

3

RPi_Awesomeness

Some friends of mine and I were playing with Schleich.

@Virusboy Dude. You're being racist against the Asians again...

Virusboy

lies @RPi_Awesomeness

Mateo

@Virusboy get a 760 instead ;)

hbdgaf

22:52

Where's that post from Jorge where he bigs up his budget gaming rig and the particular video card family? I think the 760 was the card.

Mateo

Hm, yeah. I think he had one too, it was on the steam machine beta spec

So kind of an unofficial seal of approval there since steam used it.

hbdgaf

I know I saw it pass my G+ feed. It was a sort of budget card with reasonable performance. No dream machine, but definitely a functional gaming rig from the linux side and so, by proxy, compat with most everything you would want to do on a desktop.

Mateo

We got one for the projection computer at church as well, although I was scared they would need to replace the power supply.

The xps laptop has prime graphics... running into a problem where it won't so a second screen

hbdgaf

I like my ASUS and my HP dv7 for that... They both work with a second monitor out of the box.

On the ASUS, it breaks the touchscreen, but I didn't really use it that much anyway.

Mateo

Hm, maybe I'll go back to the opesource drivers an see if that is better, not running it for games or anything, just would be nice to hook it up to a monitor.

hbdgaf

23:06

The hp dedicated nvidia is running binary drivers and pushes the second monitor fine. The asus is intel shared, and runs fine.

Virusboy

@Mateo PS?

Mateo

PS?

@Virusboy Photoshop?

Virusboy

power supply

the 760

Mateo

Its a laptop

Or were you asking about the other one?

It was like a standard dell 400-500 or something

Mic1780

@Fabby Ethernet server problem

Mateo

23:19

On mine at home I think I have a 700w

Fabby

@Mic1780: I'm here...

Shall we decamp to another room with less monkeys??? >:)

Mateo

For theirs we needed a y-connetor and the two adapter cords that came with it.

Mic1780

Sure Ill create a room

Mateo

Funny, was just watching 12 monkeys

Fabby

Go ahead...

Mic1780

23:21

@fabby chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/20450/ethernet-server-problem

Fabby

:D

@Mateo: extremely good movie!

Especially the time machine!

I'm off

Virusboy

23:32

I am getting a 1KW PS just to be safe

I just need to find some RAMBUS

hbdgaf

@Mateo - I know you're domestic. You have any thoughts on how big the cybering your cybers legislation getting not so much detail in the state of the union address bodes for that whole situation?

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