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Rinzwind

10:09

nope; website is offline

ha! saw that :-)

Oli

It came back up for a second, I thought it was over but it appears down again.

Very intermittent

ByteCommander

Seems to be at least the 2nd time this morning that some SE servers break.

Rinzwind

:)

and gone again after being gone again

Oli

The way it keeps flittering between being up and down makes it seem like a load-balancer-gone-wrong.

Rinzwind

the load-unbalancer took over :-)

ByteCommander

10:12

@Rinzwind You know about UEFI bootloader partitions? I have a question here: askubuntu.com/q/574991/367990

Rinzwind

woot I got a curious badge. after 3.5 years <3

nope not my cupe of tea @ByteCommander :D

ByteCommander

hm. too bad. Know anyone familiar with this?

Rinzwind

@oli looks like every page you visit NEWLY is errored out. After that it does load

Fabby

@ByteCommander, @IonicăBizău: naah, I was sleeping... And I can only tell you one thing: If you want to go to Uni, study what your passion is: I'm a chemist! ;-)

Oli

@Rinzwind But refreshing an already loaded page doesn't always work.

Rinzwind

10:14

this is funny: askubuntu.com/help/badges/185/curious I am the only one that got it since 2 months with more then 2k rep _O-

ByteCommander

@Fabby Hey, good morning! I thought I am usually sleeping late!

Rinzwind

front page keeps loading correctly for me atm. @Oli

Fabby

It never is this late though... I normally need 4- 6 hours...

ByteCommander

@Fabby Oh, I have Chemics as a main subject (4h per week). Very Interesting. But currently you work in the IT busines, don't you?

So what local time do you have by the way?

Fabby

@Rinzwind: What doesn't seem to load? Everything normal here!

Rinzwind

10:17

@Fabby lots of pages error out. but it is getting better :)

ByteCommander

No, it's at least the second time this morning that some SE pages don't respond.

Rinzwind

and gone it is again @Fabby

Fabby

@ByteCommander: Haven't worked in the IT industry for 10 years now.
My last job *was* teacher of English and French in a private school here.

Rinzwind

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Fabby

Loads normally for me.

ByteCommander

10:18

A TEACHER???? omg, who am I talking with???

Just making fun ;D

Rinzwind

ah well time for some more gaming :-D

Fabby

ping OK

TRraceroute ok until telia

until LA...

Journeyman Geek

world seems back up

Fabby

So I'm on the West coast of the US...

--- askubuntu.com ping statistics ---
188 packets transmitted, 187 received, 0% packet loss, time 187195ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 26.126/35.141/174.211/18.201 ms

@ByteCommander: I studied Chemistry and computers were my hobby.

ByteCommander

@Fabby You appear to me a bit like my physics /former maths/it teacher. He has a doctor in biology, studied physics, researched some medicine, self-learned programming and now is a teacher at our "Gymnasium". (Tried to explain german school system about 1h ago). He even gives speeches at our local University of applied science (where the SIA BobbyCar project took place).

Journeyman Geek

10:23

lol

Fabby

I started in a Chemical company as "liaison officer" between the chemists and EDP department

Electronic Data Processing is what IT used to be called.

Journeyman Geek

oldschool yo!

Fabby

then became a programmer (which was at the time one level up from Operator)

then Analyst programmar

ByteCommander

Hm. I think Chemistry is fun to know, but progging or it security or something like this is better as a job to me...

Fabby

then network engineer, database admin, system engineer, IT Manager and IT director, Eurpean IT director, Consultant, Teacher.

Youngest student: 5 oldest: 58

:D

Never become a director! Manager already has lots of shit attached!

ByteCommander

10:26

@Fabby Germans called it EDV (Elektronische DatenVerarbeitung). I still have books from that time. Funny that they are twice as old as me... :)

Fabby

I'm even older! :P

Unless you're a psychopath, don't become VP or C?O!

ByteCommander

What is that? some kind of chef programmer? probably more chef than programmer.

Fabby

@Oli: before you're gone: had a look at meta.stackexchange.com/questions/247169/… ?

if there is onyone in this room that hasn't upvoted the above Q&A: help us please!

ByteCommander

btw, do you know about UEFI and its boot partitions? Was trying to answer a question: askubuntu.com/q/574991/367990

Fabby

Vice President or CEO, CTO COO

@ByteCommander Never laid my hands on a UEFI system....

ByteCommander

10:31

okay, thanks. I did not see any either. Each pc in this house is at least 8 years old and second hand. As i told you - small budget.

Fabby

I know the theory, I read some of the Q, so I'll read yours too! ;-)

There! :P ;-)

ByteCommander

I saw it. But entering a boot menu or changing boot device priority is what I already suggested and did not work... :(

Fabby

You need to see the picture.

Have you ever seen an UEFI menu?

Ionică Bizău

@Fabby I am a developer, but we have to learn mathematics too... Well it's not that bad, but I don't like it.

Fabby

Mathematics is the basis for anything! :p

Ionică Bizău

10:39

Sure. But I don't like uni mathematics. :p

Fabby

Exact science, economics, Sociology, ... everything except Artistic work!

Me neither... :D

Ionică Bizău

You see? :D

Fabby

Off to look at the food...

ByteCommander

10:59

@Fabby nope. never ever. All my babies have good old BIOS...

Oli

I'm strangely looking forward to my first UEFI system. Not the pain of getting grub to take, more the eventual upgrade to a processor twice as fast as my antique i7 920.

That said, given how my 920 does everything I need of it (as fast as I need), I can't imagine ever needing to upgrade from something like a Intel Core i7-4790K... or whatever comes after it, which is probably what I'll buy.

ByteCommander

11:15

For me your CPU sounds really fast enough. I have a Core2 2GHz in my laptop...

And because nVidia geForce Go 7400 seems to be deep-fried it also handles software rendering.

By the way, in our basement is a fully functional 80386 SX with Win3.11. THAT is antique!

Fabby

@ByteCommander That's why I asked him to take a picture!

@Oli or until it crashes or burns... That was the reason a year ago for me to upgrade. And as Micro$oft wanted >100€ for my privilege to run their OS in English, I decided to try this "Ubuntu" thing... >:)

ByteCommander

Yep, sure. How was food?

Fabby

Good! Having dessert: home-made apple-cinnamon muffin!

ByteCommander

Sounds yummy. You're a good cook?

But hearing "cinnamon" reminds me of my own little problem why I came to askubuntu a few days ago... :(

Fabby

Main course was lamb sausages, rösti and white cabbage and sage...

I run plain vanilla Ubuntu with the Nemo File Manager without Cinnamon...

ByteCommander

11:29

You really call them rösti in English? Do you also say Spätzle or Maultaschen or things like these?

And I installed normal Ubuntu 14.10 with 32bit and Unity. Then a week ago I tried Cinnamon, which worked about a few hours. After that panel and popups stopped responding to user interaction. (see my questions)

Fabby

11:46

No, that's the Swiss term (Vergesse nicht das ich auch Deutsch spreche!) and it's just another nice way of serving potatoes... ;-)

I'm busy with a StackEchange network question, but after that, a browser tab with all your questions is already waiting for me! ;-)

Journeyman Geek

heh

Now that its back up

@ByteCommander: 0_0

7xxx don't normally fry

ByteCommander

Thanks. But I thought we agreed on English, as you said my English was better than your German.

Journeyman Geek

and unless it was a system with 2 gpus. fried card = no output at all

@Oli: DIY systems should be fairly painless

I dualboot at the moment

er

Actually that's a lie

ByteCommander

And actually, it's only one question that never got answered, so I tried a different text.

Journeyman Geek

I COULD dualboot

ByteCommander

11:50

@JourneymanGeek Yes, I think so too, but it doesn't work properly.

Journeyman Geek

heh. I have a fun one today.

@Fabby: softwarerecs.stackexchange.com/questions/16376/…

(pity veem is completely disinclined to do a linux port. I kinda get it but... :/)

Fabby

Looking...

ByteCommander

There are vertical lines (mostly red or orange) in regular intervals across the screen, especially when in BIOS text mode or in low-res screens (1024x786 is max with xorg - Windows ran only in rescue mode with vga-driver)

Journeyman Geek

Thats what I want from a backup app ;p

@ByteCommander: and it works fine some other times?

That does sound like a dying GPU

ByteCommander

And it changes about 1/3 of all letters in some text screens randomly (looks like polnish... :/)

Fabby

11:53

@JourneymanGeek: "dosen't insist"

Oli

@ByteCommander Does it get worse with time (ie if it's hot) or is this permanent now?

Fabby

(upvote you've got already)

Journeyman Geek

@Fabby: rear comes close but it insists on its own partition for backups, and isn't gui

I just want to back up to an image anywhere

ByteCommander

Best results with Ubuntu/xorg, but when it gets warm (screen fold onto keyboard and running some minutes - not hot, but warm) it starts flickering like old tvs. Gets better when cooling.

Fabby

And needs to be GUI?

Journeyman Geek

11:54

Ever used a third party windows imaging software? (they're almost all identical anyway)

@Fabby: yes

Fabby

@JourneymanGeek: yes, I used to run multiple Data centers...

Journeyman Geek

Oh, that's a nice to have

I wouldn't insist on it

ByteCommander

And Windows driver got into infinite loop when booting normally, Ubuntu hangs when trying to install proprietary drivers.

Additionally, games needing 3d rendering are incredibly slow even at worst settings, but 2d apps and videos work just fine.

Oli

@ByteCommander Dusted it recently? If it's not permanent damage, I'd look at getting it all cleaned up, and heatsinks reseated with new thermal paste. It's essentially an hour of time 40-50 tiny screws, some compressed air and $5 of paste and other cleaning stuff.

Fabby

@JourneymanGeek I prefer non-gui meself, but looks like you need to lmgtfy.com/?q=open+source+enterprise+backup

Journeyman Geek

11:58

boo ;p

Fabby

@ByteCommander download the service manual for your machine....

Journeyman Geek

for one computer? ;p

Fabby

@JourneymanGeek: network of 3, no?

ByteCommander

So I thought either GPU or vRAM could have received some damage and it now renders via SouthBridge. Ans cleaning is hard as it is a laptop (Maxdata Pro 6100 iw).

Journeyman Geek

@Fabby: Only one critical linux system at the moment

Other two are windows. I have veem backing up to this system. Then I'll back this up to my desktop

Oli

12:00

@ByteCommander Doing anything inside a laptop is hard... But it still needs cleaning. Laptops are essentially suicide-machines if you run them anywhere but a clean room.

Fabby

@ByteCommander: I smoke, Oli is right! (but I have a service manual. Looks like you have an obscure brand without a downloadable Service Manual...

Journeyman Geek

lol

I don't, and I just blew a ton of dust out of my viero card

Fabby

You can also buy a can of CO2 and use high pressure to clean it!

Journeyman Geek

0_0

ByteCommander

If I look inside where the fan is, I see almost no dust. And I am temporarily a bit disabled (left arm), so I dont want to open this thing up right now. Besides, it works for what I need it.

Fabby

12:02

just blow all the dust out of it!

Journeyman Geek

they sell co2 for that?

Fabby

yes... Just a can of High-ressure CO2 can be used with one hand...

Journeyman Geek

I use a canned 'air' duster, but that's horrible hydrocarbon crap

ByteCommander

I also have a 2nd notebook of exact the same type, but it doesnt work because it crashed once hardly...

Journeyman Geek

I really need a small airbrush pump or something...

ByteCommander

12:03

... with the floor to be exact.

Fabby

I vacuum clean my laptop once/month!

:D :D :D

Oli

"Compressed air" for cleaning isn't CO2 (for one it says "extremely flammable" on the cans) but yeah, you can buy various stuff.

Fabby

I use CO2... uninflammable.

Journeyman Geek

Gas duster

Gas duster, also known as canned air or compressed air, is a product used for cleaning electronic equipment and other sensitive devices that cannot be cleaned using water. Despite the name "canned air", the cans actually contain gases that are much easier to compress into liquids, such as 1,1-difluoroethane, 1,1,1-trifluoroethane, or 1,1,1,2-tetrafluoroethane. Hydrocarbons, like butane, were often used in the past, but their flammable nature forced manufacturers to use fluorocarbons. Some people believe referring to the contents as "air", compressed or otherwise, could be dangerously, even fatally...

^ this is what oli and I are referring to

Oli

Yup

Fabby

12:04

I'm referring to CO2

Becaus you can use that while the machine is running

Journeyman Geek

Yeah

ByteCommander

But when I blow/vacuum through the fan grid, isnt there any danger of turning the e-motor in the fan into a generator and damaging the boards?

Fabby

and it cools it down much more then

compressed air!

Journeyman Geek

@ByteCommander: hold down the fan with one finger, gently

and in general, no that won't happen

Fabby

It's theoretically possible,

ByteCommander

12:05

Would need a needle for that

Fabby

but in practice, never had that happen!

ByteCommander

And another problem comes to my mind: when it is warm (running few minutes, maybe 30-40°C) and I want to reboot, I get a completely white screen. In background everything works and boots, but I see nothing.

After cooling down for 5 min it starts again.

Journeyman Geek

heh

I do it with my fingers

Oli

Starting to sound like the best option might be throwing it in the ocean and putting a claim on your household contents insurance ("dingoes ate my laptop!")

Journeyman Geek

@Oli: tr00

(but bleh, I don't think I have anything over 3-4 years old)

My oldest current personal system is a sandy bridge based laptop

ByteCommander

12:09

user manual: data.manualslib.com/pdf3/66/6510/650955-maxdata/…

Journeyman Geek

@ByteCommander: there's a difference between a user manual and a service manual

Fabby

Service manual tells you how to take it apart in what order

Journeyman Geek

and yeah, that looks a bit naff

also its worth finding out who the REAL oem is

there's a few companies that make systems other companies badge engineer

Fabby

@JourneymanGeek, just continued reading your backup question and it still has a spelling error: "dosen't insist "

ByteCommander

I cant find any service manual.

Fabby

12:21

Yeah, me neither....

That's what I said earlier! ;) :P

ByteCommander

Okay, but this hardware stuff doesn't bother me now, as until in maybe a month or so I'm not able to open it. Then I will clean it and try exchange/add the graphics card and 2nd memory bar from its fallen twin...

At the moment I would rather appreciate a solution to make Cinnamon working.

Fabby

@JourneymanGeek: except for : "dosen't insist on its own volume for backups" and all of your nice to haves, my backup solution would be a fit! :D (so no, not really)

@ByteCommander: have you tried disabling the NVidia in the BIOS?

(that's how I run: NVidia only gets enabled for gaming of for watching movies on the plasma TV)

ByteCommander

I read it is incompatible with compiz, which is part of Unity. You know if either indicator-multiload or cpufrequtils uses Compiz? I think it started after a reboot with them enabled in autostart.

Fabby

you mean the one from Michael Hofmann?

system load indicator 0.3?

ByteCommander

@Fabby What for? Would no g-card give better results than a fried one?

Fabby

12:29

Yes! Definitely!

I mean: visually, not performance-wise obviously!

That's all the advice I can offer as I don't even know what cinnamon looks like (except its file manager, which I use)

(and an upvote!)

ByteCommander

But I can not remember having seen such a bios setting (phoenix bios). Well, I'll try next time I cold-boot it.

Thanks for the vote, but I would have preferred it on the other question describing my problem instead of the small one asking for a completely fresh reinstallation.

Fabby

Sorry! Better! ;)

ByteCommander

12:46

@Fabby I mean indicator-multiload 0.4-0ubuntu3 (cpu/mem/hdd/net graphs in panel) and indicator-cpufreq 0.2.2-0ubuntu1 (tool to set cpu frequency)

Both can be found in the software center, no external packages

Fabby

The first one I have too, so that I can check.

ByteCommander

Hey, what would you say about this? askubuntu.com/users/flag-summary/367990 Is the moderator right or would you support my point of view?

I just looked: the answer I flagged was removed, but I got a declined-message. That is unfair!

Fabby

Hi, I'm a page that has been removed...

Cannot see it (and the moderator is always right)...

You'll see that when you start working: the boss is always right

(even when it's an idiot)

I looked through the source code and cannot see anything directly related to compiz.

now looking what libraries compiz uses and what your indicators use

ByteCommander

Today you also learn at school, but sometimes checking twice is better

But as the answer was finally removed, I assume someone else flagged it after me and got reviewed by someone who didnt get up with the wrong foot.

Fabby

Finished going through the source. neither of the 2 applets use compiz as far as I can tell.

Now I'm back to StackExchange.com, to make the world a better place to be! ;-)

ByteCommander

13:07

Thanks very much for your effort! Would give you a vote if possible :)

Fabby

:D ;-)

@Oli: Bad taste or Allowed? meta.askubuntu.com/questions/13476/…

user136984

Is there any way to make a YouTube video go on a loop does anyone know?

Fabby

@hbdgaf, if my lord would comment on the above link to Oli?

@Toroidal, download it, open it in VLC and loop it there!

user136984

@Fabby: How exactly do I download it?

Fabby

13:23

Tssk, tssk, well then head to infinitelooper.com

user136984

@Fabby: Thanks! :)

ByteCommander

@Fabby Wow, that was sure a lot of typing... Is it worth reading or will it just get bad comments as always when people try to be polite outside this nice and fluffy chat room?

user136984

Now I can listen to Bohemian Rhapsody infinity without having to go and press the replay button at the end! Thanks again @Fabby! :D

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: Running a program (command) on terminal after login screen in Ubuntu 14.04

NOTE :- This is not a duplicate question. I have searched about 100 times on this site and several others including Ubuntuforums,askubuntu and stackoverflow. I couldn't get my work done. OBJECTIVE :- I want to have a command running on three different terminals which will all start with the log...

ByteCommander

@Toroidal I would get ear cancer if you would torture me with this. Only thinking of this makes me almost go crazy!

user136984

13:30

@ByteCommander: :D

ByteCommander

Okay, just fun, you understand me? Cool.

But I don't like Queen anyway. You could also torture my poor ears with german Schlager like Andreas Gabalier. This is even worse!

user136984

:D

Fabby

@ByteCommander: the meta sites are where everyone spills their bile about the parent site...

and at meta.stackexchange.com you get the worst of the worst!

Ask Ubuntu Meta

0

Q: Are you a nice person and have good writing skills? :-)

Well, then head over to the Meta site of the StackExchange network (AskUbuntu's "parent" meta site) where we are trying to re-define the brusque, curt and altogether unwelcoming close reasons on the AskUbuntu Site! United we stand!

discussion

Fabby

@Toroidal: You're welcome! You'd be better of ripping dad's CD though. less internet traffic, CPU utilisation, disk utilisation, ...

ByteCommander

13:34

@Fabby Yep, I know and also wrote some words there already.

user136984

@Fabby: :D

user136984

Well if I could only find a way to download the video...

user136984

:D

Fabby

look in the firefox addons

tons of them

user136984

ok

Fabby

13:35

but still: video to listen to?

ByteCommander

@Fabby But since subscribing to Christianity.SE for my homework, I have earned enough downvotes and bad comments for my whole SE career. :/

Journeyman Geek

lol

ByteCommander

If they go on like this I consider converting to Buddhism!

Or even worship my fried geForce ;D

Fabby

At Christianity???? They should be the nicest people as their main philosopher had something about turning the other cheek if hit on the one cheek or something or the other!

Nothing is worthy of worship. (except life itself!) ;)

ByteCommander

@Fabby @Toroidal addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/youtube-hq-mp3-downloader/… is a Firefox addon that converts any YT video online on their server and directly lets you download the mp3. (but only about 20/hour or so, but for me it is enough)

@Fabby Just look at what they did to my question (about the same stuff about jesus I asked you people here, where I got nice answers)

Thanks for the stars, whoever is responsible for them.

user136984

13:41

@Fabby: I just disconnected from the internet and the video and music carried on playing so maybe its not actually using much internet.

Fabby

@ByteCommander Link???

ByteCommander

Link to that now famous question on Christianity.SE: christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/36466/…

Sorry, connection lagged. Tried to post since 1 minute

Comrade Vader

hello

I need some help with an answer to a quesiton

does that mean that when I type py into the terminal It will run python 3.3?

Fabby

Yes comerade?

Oli

@ComradeVader Yeah.

Comrade Vader

13:51

okay, thanks. Just making sure

Fabby

No, it means it will run Python 3.3 ;-)

Comrade Vader

also which method is better?

Fabby

the alias...

Comrade Vader

okay. Thanks

Oli

@ComradeVader The alias will only work in Bash (the ~/bin/ path method should be set for most environments) but they're both very local to your user. If you wanted something a bit more global, I'd do something like...

sudo ln -s /opt/python3.3/bin/python3.3 /usr/local/bin/py

Fabby

13:52

@ByteCommander: yeah, too broad... :(

user136984

Oh dear... I cannot read this one... :D

user136984

0

Q: ¿Porqué con grub legacy se podía y con grub2 no?

Antes tenía un USB con varias isos y las tenía puestas en el menú de grub. Al elegirlas desde el menú de grub legacy arrancaban sin problemas,esto fue maravilloso, hasta que llegó grub2. Ahora no consigo hacer lo mismo. Este es el fichero Menu.lst que funcionaba con grub legacy Menu.lst defaul...

boot dual-boot grub2 iso

Comrade Vader

good the know @Oli.

instead of py being the commands I would like python3.3 to be the command. Is this the right way of doing so?

echo 'alias python3.3^C/opt/python3.3/bin/python3.3"' >> .bashrc

Fabby

@Toroidal: one of the native Spanish language users will edit this!

@ComradeVader echo 'alias python3.3=/opt/python3.3/bin/python3.3"' >> .bashrc

Comrade Vader

No command 'python3.3' found, did you mean:
 Command 'python3.4' from package 'python3.4-minimal' (main)
python3.3: command not found

doesn't seem to work

Fabby

13:56

log out and back in again

Comrade Vader

okay brb

Fabby

otherwise, "create a question"! ;-)

(and by "log out and in again", I meant: "log out and back in again into your terminal session". you could have been on SSH...)

Comrade Vader

I am back and I got this message when I opened my terminal

bash: alias: `python33/opt/python3.3/bin/python3.3
alias python33': invalid alias name
helmet@hat ~ $

also both python3.3 and python33 are invalid commands it seems

I checked my /opt folder and no python has been installed

84

A: How do I install Python 3.3?

Python 3.3 has been released on 29 September 2012, several months after Ubuntu 12.04 was released. It is included in Ubuntu 12.10 though as python3.3 package If you want to install Python 3.3 on Ubuntu version which does not have it in its repositories, you have the following options: Use a PPA...

I followed those steps

ByteCommander

@Fabby Lets see if three years of Spanish at school is enough to decrypt this...

Comrade Vader

it looks like I installed it in my download folder instead of the opt folder

can I just move it by cut & paste?

ByteCommander

14:04

how do you guys make these questions pop up in here?

Comrade Vader

you mean this nice little preview?

Mateo_

@RPi_Awesomeness cool

ByteCommander

@ComradeVader Yes this is what I mean.

Fabby

just past the link on a separate line instead of in a message.

I find it quite annoying, really.

it makes important messages scroll of the screen....

ByteCommander

Hm. Somebody was faster in translating Spanish than me. Edited half the question for nothing!

Fabby

14:11

>:) But then I'm an old, grumpy fart

You see?

Sometimes it's best to step back and think!

;-)

ByteCommander

okay, but let me try just once so I can say I have done it.

0

Q: accessing desktop files in ubuntu

Recently, i have broken my laptop and I was using both windows 7 and ubuntu 12.04 LTS. Then, I put hdd to a hdd box and plugged in my new laptop with usb. Although I can access all files in the windows 8 part of my new laptop, I couldn't access some of my linux files in the ubuntu 14.04 LTS part ...

12.04 14.04 hard-drive data-recovery external-hdd

Aaah. So does it work.

Fabby

Aaah? So you didn't really believe me??? ;-)

Comrade Vader

@ByteCommander just paste the URL

for answer click on share and it will give you a URL

Fabby

And if you type some test before the link: askubuntu.com/questions/575032/… or after

it's much more neat!

ByteCommander

I thought you as a Chemist (=scientist) should know that it is best to only believe what you see?

Fabby

14:13

or even: Accessing desktop files in Ubuntu can be done!

damn! that one doesn't work in the chat room!

ByteCommander

OOps. You forgot the ], didn't you?

Fabby

:D indeed!

ByteCommander

it is a test tralala

Fabby

(to both questions)

OK, leave me alone unless it's urgent, as I have a 900+ queue to review! :(

ByteCommander

But does anybody know what this guy above is missing? He says his desktop is empty when accessing the partition with another system.

Okay, I will be quiet to you from now on. Just say it.

But "leave me alone" could have been expressed more politely! (referring to your last meta post)

hbdgaf

14:18

@Fabby - I wouldn't have, because it seems like just reaching for press and not something that has a direct effect on AU, but SE general. So, it's sort of a signpost. We intentionally leave closed questions around and don't just delete them all, so keyword searches work to get someone to a solution though. So, it's mixed bag. I wouldn't have done it, but I wouldn't change it either.

related to your meta.AU question you directed at Oli and asked me to jump in on

Fabby

@hbdgaf: thank you for the reply!

hbdgaf

np

Fabby

Doing what I'm doing best: nothing! ;-)

hbdgaf

Hah. I'm doing things, but the new little blobs probably won't make it to github. It's getting closer to fruition for me though :)

Fabby

Doing Close vote reviewing! :(

hbdgaf

14:24

That's no fun. I stepped out of the site a little bit. I still talk to people here, but I mostly don't do the site much unless there's some sort of ZOMG moment. I have other stuff I have to focus on more any time I get motivated/inspired.

Fabby

Ah! Sorry to have bothered you then, my lord (mumbles fake apology and shuffles backwards) ;-)

hbdgaf

Alright you self deprecating british humor insult fellow :)

user136984

Oh dear... Look at this title:

user136984

0

Q: change file type of images AAHHHHHHH

I'm hoping someone can explain to me how i can change a file type. I recently uploaded my pictures onto my laptop and half of them are saved as a file and not an image meaning i cannot upload them onto websites for printing. Im looking for step by step process and also if i can do them all at ...

images file-type

user136984

:D

hbdgaf

14:29

^^ they're just asking for a mime-type probing and rename script so that less intelligent operating systems can cope with it.

and there is the edit

Fabby

@Toroidal: Could you use in-line linking for things that are just funny?

user136984

Ok

Fabby

(then the whole screen doesn't scroll up. Not important now, but important when a lot of people are in the room) ;-)

Comrade Vader

@Oli thanks for your answer.

Fabby

@ByteCommander: Look what I found in the review queue

terdon

14:37

How is this off topic?

0

Q: Add one click uninstall on cinnamon?

I am using ubuntu 14.04 with cinnamon desktop. I have installed cinnamon desktop from PPA . In Linux Mint 17.1 cinnamon there is feature of 'uninstall' when we click on any application in cinnamon start menu. but this feature is missing in ubuntu with cinnamon ? so how can i install ?

14.04 cinnamon

He wants a mint feature on Ubuntu. The OP is running Ubuntu, what makes this off topic?

hbdgaf

It's a bug report. "I can do it in mint, but I can't do it in Ubuntu with Cinammon." So it's a feature request bug.

terdon

Presumably, all he needs to do is install the relevant package from Mint. That should be easy enough and will not make his machine Mint.

@hbdgaf I don't think so. There's probably just a package. It's a "How can I do this?" question, doesn't seem like a bug report at all.

hbdgaf

My opinion, right solution is raising it as a bug on the cinammon ppa. Then the maintainer can add the package and mark it as a dependency. Then it would be contained to the ppa, so it's not just "install some random deb from some random place and hope it doesn't break anything"

Or, introduce another PPA that holds more of the Mint stuff that people want in Ubu, or whatever.

terdon

But it's not a bug! And it's not a random place either.

It might just be a question of which version is available for example.

hbdgaf

I think we're going to disagree on this one. I just put my stance on the issue out there.

We're all allowed to be wrong sometimes, but that's what I think about it.

Fabby

14:41

Sorry to butt in, but IMHO it's a feature request and belongs on Launchpad...

terdon

OK, well, I cast a reopen vote anyway.

Fabby

:) That's the beauty of the system!

terdon

Isn't cinnamon in the Ubuntu repos?

hbdgaf

It is, which is where they should open the feature request bug.

That's exactly what you're supposed to do. You feel it should be reopened. I don't. Cast your vote. It's built that way on purpose.

terdon

Of course. I was just wondering why you guys felt it was off topic.

Not about to start a war over it.

hbdgaf

14:45

Heh.

terdon

:)

hbdgaf

Still, now you know why. I'm not jumping you on it either, I'm just telling you why I think it should be the way I think it should be.

terdon

Fair enough, calm conversations all around.

Oli

Well I jumped all over it without any tact or decency.

terdon

@Oli Perks of modhood.

By the way @Oli if you're on board with @Fabby's meta.se Q about close reasons, why not just do it here? You can change the close reasons directly on AU, why take it to the main meta?

Oli

14:58

@terdon I gave him the reasons at the time but there are a few blockers to that.

terdon

I am guessing that the meta.se question was mainly about increasing the word limit and not about changing the message as such. Right?

Fabby

@chili555: Finally got around at looking at all the pics, and I even downloaded 2 for keeping forever! ;-)

@terdon: right...

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