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Fabby

21:00

Smoke! BRB!

Ionică Bizău

Guys, I need some upvotes here: askubuntu.com/a/574871/148451 :-)

Seth

@IonicăBizău Are any of the examples small enough to edit into the post itself?

Ionică Bizău

Yes, sure. One is on my blog.

Updating...

Fabby

One you've got...

I'm missing documentation though...

(end-user)

user136984

Yum! That pizza was nice! :) :D

Ionică Bizău

21:10

@Seth Updated.

@Fabby Thanks! :-) What do you not understand? Everything is documented in README.

I go to sleep now. Good night everyone! :-)

Fabby

Good night!

user136984

What do you guys think of the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy?

Fabby

Great books!

:P

user136984

@Fabby: I agree! :D

user136984

I am reading the first one again at the moment! :D

Fabby

21:26

Does is still say on the front page "A trilogy in 4 parts"?

user136984

No, but the pages are all falling out now and yellow and smell a little odd... :D

user136984

And on the back it says: DON'T PANIC

user136984

:D

Fabby

:)

user136984

Does anyone know where cheese stores images?

Fabby

21:37

One of the applications I removed when installing my system... Sorry...

user136984

Ok, well I have posted a question about it here:

user136984

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Q: Where does CHEESE store its images?

I have taken some pictures using CHEESE, but now I cannot locate those images, so I can do nothing with them. I can't even delete them for the CHEESE GUI does not allow me to do anything with the image (although it does display it). I read here that the images would be located under ~/.gnome2/ch...

user136984

So hope that someone responds! :)

Rinzwind

21:52

@IonicăBizău NICE! and well done

user136984

I found out where the CHEESE images are stored so that is good. :)

user136984

Although it says that I cannot accept the answer at the moment...

user136984

So apparently I have to wait a few more minutes... :D

Fabby

a few days...

:(

@Toroidal: do you have back-ups?

user136984

Of my files, yes.

user136984

21:58

Why?

Fabby

Do you tinter a lot ?

user136984

tinter? Sorry unsure of the meaning of that word in this conversation. And google wasn't much help! :D

Fabby

tinker, :D

does tinter even exist?

user136984

Apparently so... urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=tinter :D

Fabby

:D :D :D

Hah! Read this one then: askubuntu.com/questions/569679/…

:P

I've learned 1 new word today!

You learned 2!

Thanks!

user136984

22:03

:)

user136984

Oh... and:

user136984

user136984

:D

user136984

;)

user136984

Yellow, smelly and falling to pieces! :D

Fabby

22:05

Dad's copy?

Granddad's???

:D

user136984

Found it in my grandmother's loft! :D

Fabby

Good guess!

user136984

:D

Virusboy

@Rinzwind Its good but to make it a community wiki there is a box below the typing box that has a radio button. I dont know if you can change it now.

Rinzwind

I did not see that checkbox when I made it :(

@NathanOsman I said C but let Seth convince me to edit it to C++ :=D

Nathan Osman

22:15

:P

Rinzwind

:P indeed! :P

Nathan Osman

It's a combination of C and ASM.

Rinzwind

yuck ASM

At least I am 100000% sure the kernel was not made by a Valve employee.

if it was we'd be re-installing Linux every time we get to remove an application

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Journeyman Geek

lol

Rinzwind

I am so gonna milk that D:

Journeyman Geek

22:22

eh

That reminds me. I need to get a backup thing set up for my linux box ;p

(since my windows boxen are backing up to it too!)

RPi_Awesomeness

@IonicăBizău New version of Inkscape or something?

Rinzwind

always a good idea. backups. better to run out of space due to 1 backup too many than to find out you did not have a backup

@RPi_Awesomeness no is the developer version, the normal one took too much time since it always loads all the fonts in during boot. the developer version was fixed for that a few months ago

RPi_Awesomeness

@Rinzwind Aah :)

Rinzwind

the developer version also starts up full screen instead of that stupid small window

RPi_Awesomeness

Is it generally stable?

The dev version

Rinzwind

22:25

and since IonicăBizău loaded the google fonts into his system he had lots of them

RPi_Awesomeness

@Rinzwind Ah :D Yeah, that's a good amount

Rinzwind

No idea. @IonicăBizău will have to answer if it is stable ;)

RPi_Awesomeness

kk

Rinzwind

the dev version with google fonts loads within a second :D

took 1/2 a minute with the 0.48 :X

RPi_Awesomeness

^ @Seth I thought adding comments for a user was frowned upon?

Fabby

22:28

@JourneymanGeek: Read: What's a good back-up strategy for 1 PC You're very probably User type 4

Rinzwind

JourneymanGeek is not a user type :-)

if anything a user type would be named a "JourneymanGeek"

Fabby

I'll update the Q&A

Rinzwind

time for bed :=) bb2morrow

RPi_Awesomeness

o/

Fabby

There!

Done!

User type @JourneymanGeek added!

RPi_Awesomeness

22:36

Pics or it didn't happen! :D

Fabby

@JourneymanGeek: If you're interested: I've got a system backup with a customized script for my PC... Bootable FAT partition with CloneZilla

Full System backup takes 5 minutes....

Nathan Osman

I have a daily backup to a 2TB NAS.

psusi

@Fabby, you only have a few gb of data to backup?

Fabby

System back-up is only the system, that is: "/" without data (which is all on /home, including MySQL, ...)

psusi

that is... utterly pointless

the OS can easily be reinstalled, it is all of your data that is important

Fabby

22:44

You're user type 2 then!

My system is 9.98 GB

Journeyman Geek

@Fabby: I'd prefer something I can run off a booted OS

Fabby

Define "booted OS"...

I have a bootable external HD

Journeyman Geek

and my fedora system has so much wierd selinux stuff I don't understand that I want a full disk image

Fabby

with Clonezilla and a custom script

Journeyman Geek

@Fabby: I'd rather avoid booting to another environment for regular backups

psusi

22:47

Umm... #2 doesn't actually suggest a backup method

Journeyman Geek

I'll likely do a full disk image once

Fabby

and I boot in there, it takes a full backup and reboots afterwards, and the default boots the SSD

I do it once / month

@psusi: only the data!

Journeyman Geek

@Fabby: My windows systems are on daily incrementals

psusi

kind of pointless to waste 10 gb of space on a backup disk when you can just do a dpkg --get-selections to dump the list of software you've installed, boot the install cd and reinstall, then dpkg --set-selections to reinstall everything you like to add

Fabby

standard Windows SYSTEMSTATE?

Journeyman Geek

22:49

also, oddly, I consider computers expendable.

naw

veem endpoint backup

Fabby

I'm not forcing you!

Journeyman Geek

Its probably the best free windows backup at the moment

Fabby

It's just that you were talking about back-ups that I would let you know...

Journeyman Geek

However, I can survive the loss of an entire system drive and backups ;p

Fabby

lemme think.

Well yeah, I wouldn't die or something....

Journeyman Geek

22:50

(I have 3 pcs on my desk. I have anything important on 2 of them)

Fabby

I would just lose a ton of pics and videos and documents

Nothing life threatening! :P ;-)

Journeyman Geek

I may go with backblaze for file level backups

Fabby

No automatic insuline pump or so attached to my lappie!

looking...

Journeyman Geek

Just to clarify. My systems are essentially redundant

Fabby

multiple NICS, disks and stuff?

Journeyman Geek

22:52

@Fabby: When I was still running ubuntu, and its dev hadn't ragequit, I used to consider remastersys a near 'perfect' backup option for my needs

@Fabby: multiple pcs

Fabby

looking

well yeah: all on the same desk.

One bucket of water....

@JourneymanGeek shudders

Journeyman Geek

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A: How do I "duplicate" a server?

If all else fails, there's the old fashioned way - On Ubuntu or debian,use dpkg --get-selections to dump out a list of installed packages, and install them with dpkg --set-selections. The equivalent of this for red hat based distros is yum-debug-dump and yum-debug-restore (optionally with --insta...

This is how I backup

Fabby

And your config files?

is that included in dpkg --get-selections?

Journeyman Geek

nope, that's why I copy /etc/ too

Fabby

With me everything is included (and tested)

psusi

22:55

you can tar up /etc if you are worried about system config files you modify...

all the config I care about is in my home directory

Fabby

I don't worry: I've got a clone....

Not me, but then I'm user type 4...

:-)

@psusi: I'm going to re-read User type 2

BRB

Journeyman Geek

I'm pondering dirvish, but as I said, I'm on fedora, and there's a ton of barely understood selinux flags that make it a pain

psusi

so... you mess up your OS and have to reinstall it frequently so you want to be able to do that as quickly and easily as possible... but don't have any data you care about stored on it?

Journeyman Geek

@psusi: lemme give you an example

My music is backed up on 3 places automatically

I can and have lost 2 of those on the same day

and still recovered ;p

Most of my current hardware is also under 3 years old

(other than the old storage box, but I'm decommissioning it)

hbdgaf

wait, what does who want screenshots of?

Journeyman Geek

23:01

@psusi: That makes sense no?

psusi

I'm not sure... I was talking to fabby, so not really sure where you're at ;)

Fabby

@hbdgaf: well, you disliked my Unity screenshot, so I wanted to see what your desktop looks like!

@psusi: I have my data backed up with rsync 1/week automatically

Journeyman Geek

@psusi: ahh

Fabby

User type 2 only backs up /home!

Journeyman Geek

(I also tend to use more than one drive)

psusi

23:04

the reason I don't like image backups are 1) can't do incrementals, and 2) can't go back and restore individual files you deleted at any time, let alone more than one point in time. It's all or nothing.

Fabby

No you can, it's like a squasfs

psusi

ahh, I see... then your using rsync for backups ;)

Fabby

If I really wanted to, I would be able to, but never have...

Journeyman Geek

@psusi: not really. Just that no one seems to have implimented sane image + incremental backups in linux

Fabby

for the data!

2 kinds of back-ups: weekly automatic /home only

psusi

23:05

what is like a squashfs? image backup means you do a byte for byte copy of the whole disk... at best, skipping unused space... i.e. clonezilla or dd

Fabby

Monthly (kinda) manual: system backup

Yes!

RPi_Awesomeness

Backups...I gotta do more of those.

Fabby

And you can mount those!!!!

psusi

dd you can mount... if it isn't compressed

Fabby

you can mount a CloneZilla image!

psusi

23:06

not unless someone has come up with some crazy fuse driver or something to do that?

Fabby

OK! 1st you uncompress, then you mount!

Sematics...

::D:D:D

maybe!

@RPi_Awesomeness: read: askubuntu.com/questions/569679/…

psusi

then you have to have another entire disk to uncompress the image to ;)

Fabby

I always buy 2 new ones.

so I've still got my 2 old 512G lying around

I've got 1TB in the laptop

1 lying around

Journeyman Geek

hmm

Fabby

(used to be my windows System backup)

Journeyman Geek

23:09

lol

Fabby

Now contains Pr0n

Journeyman Geek

3tb on my desktop, 1tb in the linux box.

Planning on going 8tb for file storage box MKII

Fabby

And the 3rd???

You got 3 machines, right?

and they back each other up?

Journeyman Geek

hmm

Kinda

Fabby

(which is out of scope of the Q&A)

Journeyman Geek

23:10

To be complete

Fabby

So important stuf gets shuffled around

Journeyman Geek

Desktop is 250gb + 3tb + 40gb. Only the 250gb is imaged.

then of the 3tb drive music gets a file level copy to the linux box

Fabby

the 3TB contains test stuff and Pr0n ;-)

Journeyman Geek

linux box has a single 1tb drive

RPi_Awesomeness

@Fabby O.O

Journeyman Geek

23:11

@Fabby: Media, VM images

Fabby

OK! I see!

Journeyman Geek

Linux box is 1tb, its currently not backed up at all.

Fabby

takes up lots of space, but is basically worthless...

it is the backup destination.

Journeyman Geek

laptop is 300gb, backs up to the linux box

Fabby

and if it fails: boot a cd, reinstall

Journeyman Geek

23:12

I'm likely building another storage box in april/may to replace my old storage box

(250+320gb)

Fabby

yeah, I boot a HD, restore an image, reboot, done!

Journeyman Geek

hmm

I should give mondo/mindi a shot

Fabby

I last needed my image in October

What's that?

Journeyman Geek

Backup software

Fabby

Ah!

Journeyman Geek

23:15

never really worked right on ubuntu

Fabby

I used to design disaster Recovery solutions...

Journeyman Geek

It creates a bootable installer with your whole system on it.

Fabby

That's basically what I have

an bootable USB HD with a few backup images... and my rsynced /home...

Journeyman Geek

but I can generate a backup from my running install with this ;p

Fabby

Which reminds me: I need to delete some old images!

psusi

23:16

wtf? why is my raid degraded?

Fabby

yes!

Journeyman Geek

Not as useful as the late/lamented remastersys tho :/

Fabby

I can't, but then: it's only one machine and a laptop!

When I go to bed, I reboot, hit F12 end take the USB in the BIOS and wake up in the morning with a happily running system (just not logged in so not downloading anything)

(and it's only down for less then 10 minutes)

It works for me... And if I need to test out smth dangerous on AU,: I reboot, take an image, test and if it fails, restore image...

No VMs, no nothing...

@psusi: RAID OK?

psusi

oy vey

last week I apparently booted up with my dual drive esata dock connected... went to shut it down safely by writing to /sys/block/sd[ef]/device/delete... didn't realize that on that boot, the enumeration order was not in the usual order to sde instead of being one of my esata drives was one of the drives in my raid

Mateo_

OK, so are twitter users changing their names, or is there an auto follow? Because I keep finding random people on my twitter list...

psusi

23:26

resyncing it all now... this will take a while...

hbdgaf

Sorry wrong image

Virusboy

sure'

hbdgaf

I meant Cthulu for breakfast ;)

@Mateo_ how goes it?

Mateo_

Not too bad, had a cold last few days.

The scope contest was a high point

RPi_Awesomeness

@Mateo_ You won?

Mateo_

23:37

Runner up! Yeah!

RPi_Awesomeness

Nice! What submission?

I was going to enter, but I wasn't able to get going on it in time :(

There have been so many times lately that having slow internet has caused me problems with contest and projects...

Mateo_

developer.ubuntu.com/blog/2015/01/16/… RSS Feeds scope

RPi_Awesomeness

@Mateo_ Nice :D

Mateo_

@RPi_Awesomeness ah, what were you planning

RPi_Awesomeness

@Mateo_ I was gonna do an SE one, or an IMDB one - can't remember exactly what idea I ended up deciding I was going to go with :P

Oh well :(

Maybe they'll do another...

Fabby

23:42

@hbdgaf: lots of protein! a <H1>man's</H1>breakfast!

@psusi: success with the sync! (When's the ETA?) and luckily that talking about back-ups made you think of having a look at the RAID! ;-) :D

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psusi

@Fabby, the raid10 system part is done now... 2 hours to go for the raid5 part

Fabby

(fingerscrossed!)

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