Don't just copy-edit! READ!

(That advice will save you a ton of money later in life!)

@Toroidal One of the downvotes was from me. I really hope they don't implement something like that.

Don't sign anything until you've read it completely!!!

Personally, I find it annoying and ugly and it would just add needless overhead to the servers.

The battle of the ages playing before us!

in the left corner: @terdon (old fart) in the right corner: @Toroidal (young buck)

;-)

lookingµ

duplicate of: askubuntu.com/questions/27146/…

Let him have a look there...

If it looks like something might have happened before, look for duplicates

(you can't help him now as the Q was closed off, but I've voted for a reopen)

@Fabby Lol. I didn't think I could lay claims to old fartness before at least 50 or so. :)

lookingµ ?

@terdon: but at least you've got a laugh out of it!

That's something :)

yeah, the µ is next to the [enter] on my keyboard... :(

The advantage of this keyb is that 32°F=0°C is no prob

Oy! I just checked your profile, you're more than a decade older than I. You don't get to call me an old fart, you old fogey!

You have a keyboard with an μ?

E=mc²

yeah, but the [] and {} are in the wrong place...

What keyboard is this?

that's a bummer

BE

²³âêîôû

àéè°£µ

€

Yeah, we all have dead keys :)

Ηελλ, Ι γοτ τηε ηολε γρεεκ αλφαβετ ηερε.

:D

Αθήνα?

Ναι

oh no

At the moment anyway.

You Greek?

you're writing English with a greek alphabet

Nope. Complicated.

Well, yeah. Mporw na kanw kai to antistrofo omos.

That's why "International"

See? Works both ways.

@Fabby Aren't we all.

:P

I bet I'm at least as international as you are.

mum's Flemish, dad's Italian, GF is Russian.

Uncle in South-Africa

Hmm. Mum's Greek (quarter French and quarter Danish), Dad's American. Rest of the family all over the place.

So? Can you beat that?

:D

What?

Don't let us hanging!

@Fabby Easily :) I also have English, Scottish and Italian. And have been living in England, Spain and France. And I just edited this more than a year later. For science.

So you speak at least 3 languages...

@Fabby Yeah, but two were for free.

Presumably you do too, at least.

@Toroidal: Are you hearing impaired?

@Toroidal You might need to install something or other.

@Fabby Nice! Vlaams? Flemish? And Magyarul?

Hungarian

@Toroidal Fair enough.

@Fabby Ah.

I thought the Flemish might have a different name for their Dutch.

Every language is an (ex-) GF

@Fabby Hmm. Do you actually speak them then? Or is your vocabulary strangely limited?

@Toroidal Lol. That would get old pretty fast though.

@Toroidal: too much tweaking! :P ;-)

@terdon: strangely limited....

all of them...

I can ask for a cigarette in 10 languages.

(you know: the important stuff!)

Gotta go. fire up the oven and start on the gratin dauphinois!

Ah, yes. That and the local word for macchiato are the first things I learn in a new language.

@Fabby Bon profit!

it takes 330 days for me to earn 50+k reps on SO..

Oh,

Hi @terdon

Hey @AvinashRaj

Do you know about the mod elections for this year?

Which site?

SO

User experience is having one.

SO is having elections again?

They just had one last year.

Oh, and believe me, you do not want to be an SO mod.

shudders

i don't want to be a mod.

but many funny things will happen during the election period :-)

I don't think they'll be having one soon though.

elections.stackexchange.com

Election season is in February/March :)

(although not all sites follow that pattern)

@Toroida You there? Or a ghost account.

hey

rd, I don't want anything from you, especially now that you're back.

what do you think about the edits being made to the site?

"@Toroidal: How are your evil edits going? Badass?!"

sigh..

I don't want to do this anymore...

yeah

badass... cool... facepalms at self

Guys, remember that flags appear to all high rep users across the network. Please don't flag things unless it is really necessary.

GAHD WHY AM I DOING THIS! quits intel's job

@terdon wait, did someone flag something here? I was afk. reading the last bit of conversation, I see nothing I wouldn't want desperately to counterflag for... like "who cast that? go sit in a corner."

@terdon Across the entire network? Why is that?

chat mods are universal.

Seems like a waste of moderator time!

@Fabby Because chat gets a hell of a lot of flags I guess. But yeah, all >20k (or is it >10k?) users get chat flag notifications.

Yes, but I understood you had to go and look for them!

@hbdgaf Came and went very quickly.

@Toroidal: what does this guy have against you?

@Fabby No, that's for mod flags on the site. Chat flags appear as a blue number on your chat avatar on the left of the text entry box here.

@Fabby like, i'm a pseudo-chat-mod based only on rep. it's an in-between area for high rep users, because chat isn't as important as questions and answers, so the rep threshold to make you a person of flag/zomg people are complaining worth judgement is lower.

Trusted user?

even lower than that. trusted user is 20k. chat flag review happens way before that...

@toroidal: You know that you can click his user name and then ignore him, right???

then he can bleet all he wants, and for you it's [ignore mode on]

No! believe me, not with this type!

@Toroidal if there is abuse going on, do let one of the mods know. There's not much we can do but we can suspend his account for a while.

First thing he says: ignore...

Gota go thegirls are here!

@Fabby and @Toroidal I ignore people a lot. Like a whole lot. I take them off ignore every so often just to confirm, but I'm rarely wrong.

@Fabby good luck with that

@terdon I feel stalked by you :-D

question: am I right or wrong here? => askubuntu.com/questions/574802/…

@Rinzwind What? How could you tell? I hid the van behind the tree and always ducked when you stuck your head out your window!

I am gonna rat you out to Oli! :=D

scary nose.

Shhhhhhhh

@Rinzwind You're right though it would probably be closed as opinion based. There isn't much of a question there really.

what language is Ubuntu made in?

you know, coded.

@HenryFlemingerThomson kermel is C++, Ubuntu C++ and python

kewl;

thanks

probably more python than C(?) not sure :)

@Rinzwind Not C++? ;)

@terdon I consider those the same :=D (same family)

I guess that depends on what you mean by "Ubuntu".

@Rinzwind Linus certainly does not.

@terdon he's a nerd

and you can quote me on that :=D

@Rinzwind Yeah, like you're not!

Well, geek anyway.

@terdon I am a gamer.

Um. Yes?

And gamers can't be nerds?

@terdon sure. But my 1st prioroty is not coding. That is my work and stops after work

I am also an otaku >:D

@Rinzwind The kernel is written in C, dunno about the kermel ;)

@Rinzwind Yup. More commonly known as a nerd ;P

xD

@Seth you want me to put you on ignore? >:-D

@Toroidal annoying are those people are they not? :=D

and my important message about steam gets killed as non interesting :****

@Toroidal Nah, it's very easy to get starred. Here, watch.

bam >:-D

Told you!

:)

lol

meh heh heh

pity we can not star ourselves.

Thanks RInce

I can!

My fat warm cat just walked into the room!

Eat your hearts out :)

@Rinzwind That wouldn't be a very good idea ;P

Huh, that's a bug.

@Seth ha! never said it was a GOOD idea. Just it is a pity we can't :D

I wept today after I read that topic on the valve forums _O-

What topic.../

*...?

Apparently, if I pin (mod star) a message and then unpin it. It still appears starred by me.

@HenryFlemingerThomson oh the steam.sh script can remove your hard disk content _O-

:s

D;

wait

@Rinzwind Oh you can. I hung out in a room once where this one guy would come in every day and just rant is heart out, no matter what anyone said he was always right and everything was terrible. Finally the mods decided enough was enough and told him one more time and he'd be out, but he had all the mods on ignore so he never got the message. You can imagine what happened ;)

sh... that's a file extension... oh, shell... yes

want a laugh?

Read the warning: support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=9609-OBMP-2526

That is about windows and deleting ALL files in Program Files.

ok....

@terdon yup, don't file a bug! :P

@Seth ??

lol

not good

Pinning my own message is fine but now I unpinned it and it is highlighted in yellow as though I'd starred it and I can't remove the star.

@Seth Yes, but why shouldn't I file it as one?

Do you consider it a feature?

@HenryFlemingerThomson here is the Linux version: github.com/valvesoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/3671 due to the variable they use for the "rm -rf" possibly can be empty it does a rm -rf /* (and the * also bypasses the safety check in modern linux)

@terdon Because then we couldn't do it ;P

@Toroidal do you like fat things? Hug my cat, go on.

@Rinzwind yup, heard about that. And it wouldn't trigger preserve-root either D:

@Seth I'm struggling to see why we would want to. But OK, if it makes you happy, I'll keep silent :)

@terdon joke fail -.-

@Seth I can not even consider this a bug. This is plain incompetence.

File a bug for all I really care :)

@Rinzwind Indeed.

@Seth Yeah. I guessed as much. Damn internet eating sarcasm again.

lol

@HenryFlemingerThomson Stop bugging people.

someone reading this back might mix the 2 conversations up _O-

@terdon hey no problem, I'm a pro at missing jokes ;)

How can one be a professional joke... oh, right.

lol

@Rinzwind Maybe Valve wants revenge on those who remove their app.

@Seth: Nope, it's just bad testing....

rotfl, I was joking with Rinz.

Or no testing. Or, "hey you're a programmer right? Never worked with Linux? Not a problem, can't be that hard to write a shell script!"

Two failed jokes in 5 minutes, I think I'll see myself out.

@Seth Don't stop now, you're on a roll!

I remember a professor whose ultimate test of an application was to sit on the keyboard; if the app bailed out, you flunked

@terdon Yeah, that is probably exactly what happened. (not joking)

@Seth Indeed.

@terdon that's probably it. Some manager that never did anything else.... oh its software he can do that he codes in visual basic

@Fabby What? Did he have strategically placed items in his pocket that made him hit Ctrl+C?

and poor little coder needs to create a bash script

worse: he can do that as he wrote the Windows script!

@Rinzwind Yeah, and now half of the Linux world is screaming for their head.

same bug in both scripts?

@terdon: it was just his way of saying "expect the unexpected"

@terdon I could set a new record!

I never took his courses, but saw lots of CopmSci guys sitting on keyboards! :D

@Fabby windows has the same problem If you install into Program Files expecting it to add steam as a sub dir and then remove steam it removes EVERYTHING in Program Files.

@Rinzwind: proves my point: it was the windows developer who developed the bash script....

>:)

@Fabby no. it was NOT a windows developer. That is an insult to developers. even ones that only code on Windows :D

:D :D :D

@Rinzwind: they gave it to an intern: "here's something easy for you to do!"

@Rinzwind And they actually put a warning instead of fixing it!

how hard is it to take the simplest approach: create a script that holds on the files installed and remove only those file?!

@terdon yeah and THAT I consider an insult.

That's like having a warning that reads "Please don't use this device, it will explode and kill you" on a microwave.

grrr I need 1 more good question today :P

hahahaha. That's actually not really funny >.>

You should try living in the USA. Everything you try to do is dictated by how people might sue you.

:D

In the netherlands they would not get away with it. a EULA about "if we kill your machine unlucky for you" would be considerd invalid

I know where I'm moving :D

@Seth Yaaay!

@Seth we have an interview session before you can apply for dutch citizenship

Great Q/A: askubuntu.com/q/227554/36315

I just use the cli :D

h o l y c r a p

question 1 in the citizen shop...

"Piet is 18 jaar en Jan 20 jaar, wie is ouder? " >:-DDDDD

@Rinzwind ............... Really?

someone not knowing english can read this (the words are very similar to english except for the 2 names ;) )

@blade19899 exercisesinburgering.nl/inburgering-buitenland/vragen/v1-6

Piet is 18 and Jan is 20, who's older?

check the 2nd one _O-

Really?

@terdon Nice !

@terdon O now for the answer ;)

@Seth I was i can also edit the files with the GUI.

"1 minuut hoeveel seconden is dat? "

have another one @terdon :D

Or just implement an edit button, and it will open the default app

@Rinzwind How many seconds in a minute?

@Rinzwind 946221791? :D

60.........?

> Fiets je op een rivier of op een pad?

Damn, I should learn Dutch!

or did I get tricked by something.

How many seconds in a day?

@terdon they idea is you answer them not translate them. you are suppose to be able to read dutch ;)

no idea.

:D

@Fabby 24*60*60*60 :=)

Up to what number do you know pi?

they're just constants you know...

@Rinzwind Huh? I don't know the answers! Those are hard!

oh unless it is a leap day! then it is 24*60*60*60 + 1

:D True!!!

but that's why we have ntp!

You also remember the time that every computer had in its AUTOEXEC.BAT a DATE and TIME command.... @Rinzwind

(to let the user double check!)

Has anyone ever used Xenix?

@Fabby ME! I used Xenix

You must remeber the TimeZone bug then!

I also used TOS before xenix (that was an operating system based on BASIC)

IThe server took the "access time" from theclient!!!

I used BTOS

(I can't remember what it was, though...

Burroughs Technology Operating System

On Unisys terminals!

DAMN I knew it

198 rep :X

lol

ah well it'll come soon :+

there!

just as yoiu were saying it I saw another excellent answer

lol

(normally I don't open answered Q, but I wanted to know what the answer was!)

naa don't upvote from remarks in chat. makes me uneasy :=D

No! Just as you were talking about it I read it, then upvoted and then saw it was you!

(and then ran back here!)

BRB

@Rinzwind happy?

tsk

:)

No I want that downvoter's name and AU id so I can hunt him down

:=D

@Rinzwind Man, I am so tempted to go and downvote you now :)

LOL

thanks for the upvote @terdon

:)

if you ever apply for dutch citizenship PM me >:=D

@terdon I know when to go sit in a corner and fear a moderator

@Rinzwind cool, maybe you can help me with the hard questions!

I saw a REALLY stupid one

...

yeah my sentiment @blade19899

time for some food :)

My 4GB SD card only farmers to 2.7 in Ubuntu. How do I fix this?

*formats

@kprovost7314: what's the link to your question?

I have no question. I brought it here since storage is most known and easiest to fix (sometimes).

I'll make one if you need me too.

Did you look for another answer first?

@kprovost7314 do you have a picture

I'm using terminal since freedesktop.org.xml broke Ubuntu.

@kprovost7314: what commands did you use to create and format the drive?

(If you've only got a terminal...)

"mkfs -t ext4 /dev/sdb"

parted --list

output ?

I didn't use parted.

It just lists the partitions

put that in and paste the output here is what he is saying

what's the output of:

parted --list

so we can see what the size of your card and partitions are

I just says different commands I could use.

sudo parted --list

ICan I use df -h

(sorry)

that doesn't give you the partitions

You have a 4G that only shows 2.7G

What's the output of:

sudo parted --list

OK I just got it. It's 2988 MB.

:

4G SD.

what's the output of:

sudo parted --list

??

Number: 1 Start: 32.8kB End: 2988MB Size: 2988MB Type: Primary File system: ext4 Flags: boot, hidden