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Nathan Osman

01:40

^--- Found that digging through some old boxes today.

Also found an ATI Rage II, some (gasp!) floppy disks, and what appears to be a copy of the original Windows for Dummies™ book.

Journeyman Geek

lol

I threw out my win95 floppies a few weeks ago

Nathan Osman

And by floppy disks, I mean the ones that literally flopped. (5 1/4")

Journeyman Geek

0_0

OLDSCHOOL YO!

Nathan Osman

And a webcam boasting that it could capture "100,000 pixels!"

(320x240 if you were lucky, I think it was.)

You couldn't really capture much larger than that anyway, since it wasn't even USB 2.0.

Nathan Osman

01:59

Lol... on the backblaze.com page:

> "Look, I'm an Advanced User, and I Already Have a Set of RAID Drives with Perl Scripts to Copy My Files Back and Forth Between My 18 Home Machines that are in a Datacenter I've Built in My Closet. Why Do I Need Backblaze?"

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> "Congratulations! It sounds like you're passionate about backup—and so are we. In fact, you may even want to send us a note on the jobs page."

hbdgaf

I debated heavily on which one to star. It took about 4 seconds

Nathan Osman

02:12

If you want a good article from them to read, this one is fun: backblaze.com/blog/backblaze_drive_farming-2

It's a couple years old, but still a classic.

Richard

03:50

Meanwhile, KDE 5 is getting to be quite beautiful... youtube.com/watch?v=gpsiExLASI4

Journeyman Geek

@Richard: as long as they keep oxygen ;p

oxygen + wonton soup = AWESOME.

Richard

@JourneymanGeek Oo hadn't seen that kde-look.org/content/show.php/…

Journeyman Geek

@Richard: I've used variations of that theme as long as I can remember ;p

Hell, I have a GTK clone of that on my windows systems as well

Richard

@JourneymanGeek It is pretty... that plus the new font, I'm imagining

@JourneymanGeek (mm wonton soup, my favorite thing to order from Jade Garden hehe)

Journeyman Geek

@Richard: eh, I do a ton of changes font-wise

Richard

03:58

@JourneymanGeek seems a little bit tough to read actually with those colors, but depends on screen brightness

Journeyman Geek

Currently running fedora with a ton of font related tweaks

@Richard: I currently run that with a few small changes on a little 10 inch screen

perfectly clear for how I work with it

Richard

@JourneymanGeek the default is a little...impractical sometimes

@JourneymanGeek that's a large kde : pixel ratio :P

Journeyman Geek

Its actually pretty nice

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

05:02

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Q: How to know where a program is stuck in linux?

I am running the following command on my ubuntu server root@slot13:~# lxc-stop --name pavan --logfile=test1.txt --logpriority=trace It seems to hang indefinitely. Whenever this happened on AIX, I simply used to get the PID of the offending process and say $ procstack <pid_of_stuck_process> ...

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

05:32

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Q: Diagnosing lost network connectivity on Ubuntu

My first question here so please be gentle. :) I have a Linode running Ubuntu 14.04, with a stack managed by ServerPilot.io. Only real modification is that I'm running HHVM in a limited fashion. Tonight we had an odd occurrence. I received notification the websites were down. Upon investigati...

ubuntu networking

Seth

06:23

@Richard Can I finally bind super to the K menu?

That was and still is my biggest gripe with KDE. I rely on keyboard shortcuts and they just don't work terribly well in KDE.

Whaaaaaat

07:23

@Seth I request we really do something about dschinn. He is overall a very low quality user and does not apparently understand what is being said to him. I'm sorry to point out a user like this, but he is problematic.

I mean, really:

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A: Chromium/Chrome not working in Ubuntu 14.04

Try first to de-install both packages of google-chrome and of chromium with sudo apt-get remove google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb (in case you tried the stable-version) then try to reinstall only one package after the other not both at once with ubuntu package-manager - first install...

Whaaaaaat

08:31

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A: Visual Artifacts when using nVidia Prime on Intel driven monitors

There is a solution of mine with this cuda-SDK-beta-1.1 package of NVIDIA ... but this is not for beginners, and it is risky to test it, but it cannot damage your hardware ... Here I post this link, where my workout, worked on my little laptop a good while - BUT you should first wait for new upco...

I mean, really? @Oli @Seth @AskUbuntuMods, you guys should do something. At the minimum a warning here. This appears to be challenging my right to be able to post and hold opinions. Secondly, he goes off-topic way too often. Again, I hate to be pointing out a specific user, but...

fossfreedom

09:02

@Whaaaaaat tidied - basically comment and move on. No need to get into a debate. Flag if necessary - we can clean up when necessary. Warnings are for serious-very serious matters. Debates are held on Meta.

hbdgaf

09:56

@Whaaaaaat I just go mute on some argumentative users. Trying to help someone understand is not always a productive use of my time. Just food for thought.

holy moly: github.com/vhf/free-programming-books/blob/master/… <--- this needs to be a link on some "programming reading material" question somewhere.

o/ @Rinz

Rinzwind

10:13

\o

just peeking in :=)

hbdgaf

I figured. I see you breeze through a lot

Rinzwind

hmm

AU chat is one of my tabs in chrome ;)

hbdgaf

me too sed s/chrome/chromium/

Amith KK

13:14

XKCD has a new mobile site. Cool xD

Oliver Schöning

14:15

Ugh! So tired of malware and updates. Freaking switching my desktop pc to ubuntu aswell now :p reddit.com/r/unixporn looks so pretty and makes it all seem worth it haha

hbdgaf

14:32

@OliverSchöning There's a club. It's call linux users.

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

14:43

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Q: Failed to run startup script in Ubuntu

I am adding startup script in Ubuntu with update-rc.d. My script says : #!/bin/bash nohup curl -C - -o ~/Downloads/linuxmint-17-xfce-dvd-64bit.iso.part 'http://mirror.umd.edu/linuxmint/images/stable/17/linuxmint-17-xfce-dvd-64bit.iso' exit Made it executable and added in /etc/init.d Now wh...

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Oli

15:02

@Whaaaaaat If you keep getting in situations like that with somebody, you need to engage with them less, not more. You two seem close starting up some sort of actual feud. Flag things up to us and we can usually resolve issues without a hundred comments (or a knife fight).

Or we can set something up if you both want to battle to the death. #LengthsModsWillGoToAvoidFlags

Journeyman Geek

MORTAL WOOOOOMBAAAAATTTTT!

Oliver Schöning

15:21

@hbdgaf Yeah :p I like it.

I posted a reddit question. I am looking for some Skype wrapper that makes it look good on Ubuntu ^^ Surely someone has done that?

hbdgaf

15:49

@OliverSchöning you mean like this webupd8.org/2014/03/fix-skype-not-using-desktop-gtk-theme.html

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

16:09

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Q: How to change the shortcut directories in Files?

I'd like to redirect the documants, downloads, music, and videos that are on the sidebar of the files application to another location that is in another partition. So far my internet reserch have only shown me sulutions for ubuntu 9 and 13. The propties for those directories doesnt let me change ...

ubuntu file-manager

lazyPower

16:36

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Q: 'Flexnet detected' I Can't Startup my PC

yesterday i had a problem and and ask a question here. with the answer i got i thought i solved the problem but the it was just temporarily solution. after every restart same problem occurs. i installed autodesk maya recently and the problems began. i used boot-repair and it said "Flexnet detecte...

12.04 dual-boot

is that too localized? or still valid?

hbdgaf

long time no see @lazyPower

lazyPower

o/ @hbdgaf

I've been keepin it real over in camp juju for a while now, haven't made time to make it back to my hobby of trollin the AU feed

Seth

@lazyPower well it was only asked in April, but it certainly isn't a very good question.

hbdgaf

@lazyPower I'ld close as localized at the moment, although our close as bug reason should have "insanely probable hardware fault" in there somewhere.

Seth

hm, user hasn't been seen since April either.

lazyPower

16:39

I'm flagging as low quality as I have no idea how to clean that up... i'm not even sure if what they are asking is how ot restore GRUB based dual boot

hbdgaf

I already VTC-ed it

lazyPower

lol @ this in the feed

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Q: Do I need an antivirus ( Not Duplicate)

I have just migrated to ubuntu from windows and am a little concerned about security, as in windows, an anti virus is a must. Now, I have read many other threads on the same topic, but I have a few queries ( with some requirements as well ) : 1) Can ubuntu have viruses and other malwares ? More ...

14.04 antivirus

"not a duplicate" [duplicate]

Seth

@lazyPower going with unclear because I have no idea what he's asking.

lazyPower

@Seth: Sounds good to me.

Seth

@Plutoniumsmuggler , the short answer is "no". Wine virtualizes as much of the Windows OS that it needs to in order to get your apps running, and it is only this virutalized Windows environment that may become damaged. Most types of activities that might infect a Windows system with viruses are not what you will be doing with WINE, though. — MGodby 25 secs ago

that needs upticks --^

hbdgaf

16:41

That does it. I'm starting a sock account of the name ZOMG_HILARIOUS so when things like that get posted I can post them as that sock... then when people reply it reads "@ZOMG_HILARIOUS what were you thinking?"

Seth

Unless you directly install a virus in WINE the chances of ever even seeing one is like next to zero.

lazyPower

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Q: IP/DomainName of juju master or slaves changes

The juju master domain name changed from juju.this.domain.example to juju.new.domain.example because of new rules from IT managers. The IP address also changed. And, this change affected all the juju units, that now are with new IPs and domain names. I'm using manual environment. Is possible to...

juju

answer/question should get some upticks too - as this a solid q/a

hbdgaf

@Seth most of the really nasty ones don't want to run in virtualization anyway...

lazyPower

@hbdgaf you still down in sunny peninsula country?

hbdgaf

@lazyPower I was never in FL... I am back east in the middle of the seaboard though.

lazyPower

16:43

I must be confused, i thought you were hanging around in FL for a while

hbdgaf

There were people trying to convince me to head that way WITH them, but I didn't. I have a nice 2k/year slot with a pool and on-site laundry. 5 miles from the day job.

If you dox-ed me, my phone is a FL number ;)

no really, it is

lazyPower

I dont think I ever got your 411

but thats beside the point ;)

Pardon my scatter brain, this year has been an absolute blur

hbdgaf

Yeah. It looks that way. I've had a lackadaisical year. Trying to regroup and whatnot. I'll be back on my A game probably half way through next year.

lazyPower

@hbdgaf the pursuit of happyness my friend. ^5

hbdgaf

exactly so.

@lazyPower So, on the juju team now I suppose. Ever get that minecraft charm sorted out the way you wanted?

lazyPower

16:51

I recently took it down due to DDOS's against the server. It'll be going back online this weekend - and its updated to deploy 1.8, so i'm basically happy.

I'd be even happier with a web-based admin system I can hand out to a few of the tennants

hbdgaf

Well, the charm part works. Haters gonna hate. youtube.com/watch?v=yuPPCbT-_y0

Oliver Schöning

I never added anything to the list of repositories. Can this be harmful? spotify.com/dk/download/previews

hbdgaf

@OliverSchöning Claes had a local code execution bug in spotify at one point. Not sure if they patched it. He did turn it in though...

lazyPower

@OliverSchöning personally i'd put it in its own list file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/

@hbdgaf any known CERTS on tomahawk?

Oliver Schöning

hm.. I think I look into it when I got more time. No spotify for now then

hbdgaf

16:55

@OliverSchöning It won't work with applets, but if you're using a window, it seems like a valid use case stgraber.org/2014/02/09/lxc-1-0-gui-in-containers

Oli

@OliverSchöning It could be if Spotify are malicious or incompetent , sure.

Oliver Schöning

Ugh.. Americans! Stop doing "month, day, year" :p

hbdgaf

@lazyPower Not that I heard about, but I don't follow those threads as much as I used to.

Oliver Schöning

Yeah.. @Oli that is what I was thinking lmao! Oh well

lazyPower

yeah, last we spoke you said you were down to just dabbling @hbdgaf

hbdgaf

16:56

I burned out. I'm still back to playing mostly.

Oli

You could just as easily say that about a single package or even a binary. I think on balance it's unlikely they'd be able or want to do something that screwed up your computer.

hbdgaf

^^ That's fair.

lazyPower

o/ @Oli really enjoyed reading thepcspy.com/read/making-ssh-secure - wish more people cared enough to post about this stuff with the slew of new linux admins we have popping up.

hbdgaf

"Use key-based authentication and disable password authentication" <-- I remember advocating that a year or two ago and someone decrying me as "you're gonna lock yourself out one day"

Oli

@lazyPower Cheers. Yeah, it's quite surprising how secure you can go if you really want to (and just how many powers stronger that is than the default configuration).

hbdgaf

17:04

Here's an interesting thought. How much longer do we really have before it gets to a point where it's cheaper to throw cycles at a problem than it is to improve efficiency in some numerical algorithm?

Oli

@hbdgaf At what? Encryption?

KasiyA

Does edit and then downvote after edit for Q/A no have -1 rep for me or you? @Oli

hbdgaf

@Oli Anything really. Anywhere you could spend ten hours improving your code-base or just throw hardware at it. When does it become cheaper to just throw hardware at a problem?

Oli

I think most of the problems we currently faced aren't from people breaking encryption or doing genuinely clever things. They're stupid crappy bugs that stupid crappy idiots turn into disastrously effective turn into exploits.

hbdgaf

I would tend to agree in the security area. I was more talking other areas. Anything but what you're talking about. Statistics would be a good example.

Simplicity of deployment of services would be another good example. If you have a deployment of some database cluster that works, how much easier is it to deploy it as a node/collection of nodes in a reproducible way than it is to try and mash all the configs on to one box or tweak it. See what I mean?

ofc they both have a critical mass where one forces you to do the other, but it seems like they both have hard-limits and the hardware one is vastly easier to expand towards.

Oli

17:20

Yeah, I see a lot of small businesses throwing stupid amounts of money at various services because they'd rather do that than spend money engineering around the problem. Services like EC2 and Azure make it really simple for people to ignore technical problems and throw money at it instead.

Richard

@Seth Probably not, I usually super + z

(on qwerty)

RPi Awesomeness

Does anyone know what the best website/resource for learning C++ is?

Or, if I learn C, will that allow me to program in C++?

Mateo

17:37

@OliverSchöning funny we say the same thing, it should be coded to rearrange depending on language/units selection. In other news I still need to change the spell check in firefox on Ubuntu every time it updates... they set it to uk across the board.

hbdgaf

@RPiAwesomeness it will help for sure, but there will be another layer to learn. cprogramming.com/begin.html

@Oli The point I was driving at is the whole balancing act between the money you throw at hardware (and cycles getting cheaper) and the money you throw at devs to make a problem go away (better devs not getting any cheaper).

Sort of, industrial revolution meets manual labor style tech event coming.

@Mateo I just accept that I auto-correct to colour or whatever...

Oliver Schöning

I got 14.04. Should I install 14.10 ? The only reason I am considering it is because freaking "Utopic Unicorn" lmao!

Mateo

@hbdgaf there are a few other ones... but yeah

hbdgaf

I won't get upset until it starts changing truck to lorry.

@OliverSchöning I only ever use LTS or beta. The intermediate releases seem like a waste of time ;)

RPi Awesomeness

@OliverSchöning Nothing really too special aboot it. The wallpapers are quite incredible though :)

Mateo

17:49

@hbdgaf I like putting the petrol in the boot of my hatchback...

Oliver Schöning

Lmao okay :) I read on a bit then haha.

Mateo

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hbdgaf

wiki.debian.org/DpkgTriggers should be able to solve the firefox problem without touching the package at all if you want to homegrow a solution.

@Mateo hilarious

Mateo

such an awesome show :)

hbdgaf

I didn't used to think I'ld like it... but I do. I really do.

Also, it shows a level of sophistication to the British in general that there was enough of an elevation of humanity to turn drive by shootings in to this:

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I saw a great post on "This. This is a professional lorry driver" about a week ago. It made me think at one point, "This guy just can't win". You'll know the moment when you see it. tractorvideos.net/…

Seth

18:00

@RPiAwesomeness learncpp.com and cplusplus.com are also good resources.

hbdgaf

^^ agree

Seth

I'd say learn C++. That way you can use it when it is available and fall back to C when necessary.

Just make sure you know the difference ;)

hbdgaf

@Seth \o/ can I get an uptick here --> askubuntu.com/questions/376633/…

Seth

yeah

hbdgaf

This is sort of the definitive old school "C" book textbooks.com/…

Seth

18:05

I think David was using C generically. the scopes tuts and pages all say C++. Who wants to use just C these days for something like that?

hbdgaf

His comment response indicates that he doesn't understand the difference. If he had said I was using the term generically, I would have just edited it in.

Rinzwind

\o

hbdgaf

Everything you learn in "the C book" is still relevant in C++, but you add some new constructs/patterns.

Rinzwind

@hbdgaf I made that 2

hbdgaf

Thanks. I don't want to edit it in if the OP doesn't get it and get in to some edit rollback war. I just wanted to help him/her adjust their way of thinking.

Rinzwind

18:08

have seth edit it in >:-D

hbdgaf

But that wouldn't be nice... >.>

Rinzwind

but it would be accurate,

hbdgaf

True. I was going for both. I was trying to soft touch it before I hammered it.

Rinzwind

whimp!! :-)

Being accurate on AU trumps any other sentiment! >:-D

hbdgaf

I think so too, but I'm trying on this forgiveness thing and seeing how it works out.

Currently it fits about as well as a cheap suit.

Also, as a lyricist, this guy is a god youtube.com/watch?v=qggxTtnKTMo&list=PL3CD7BDBEC570DBD7

@Rinzwind - You would be happy, I just edited it to be accurate.

Seth

18:28

hmm, you going to edit David's answer too then?

hbdgaf

David's answer where?

Rinzwind

@hbdgaf :D

hbdgaf

@Seth I'm assuming you're talking Planella. I'm not on a first name basis with him, but if you're talking scopes and design patterns for unity, I have to assume that's who you're talking about...

Oliver Schöning

Uhm.. so I said OK to updating ubuntu to 14.10. But details still say its 14.04 and I cant see any updater or terminal running

Seth

@hbdgaf linked in the post you edited: askubuntu.com/questions/310669/…

hbdgaf

18:34

@OliverSchöning Reboot and check /etc/lsb-release shouldn't be necessary, but maybe it is...

Seth

@hbdgaf I'm not used to calling people by their last name.. (although sometimes I think that old way of doing things was better) and I'm too lazy to spell the entire thing out in a chat ;P

Oliver Schöning

kk

hbdgaf

@Seth He said the words C** so he understands the difference... and his readers would ask themselves what he means. The other one clearly doesn't understand the difference, so no. I won't edit that one.

Whaaaaaat

@Oli Whaaaaaat uses LOGIC BLAST! It's super effective!

Seth

Apparently it wasn't so effective this time.

Whaaaaaat

18:38

sigh

writes a user-mute userscript that has other features.

hbdgaf

for 12 bucks, who could say no? i needed a jacket to complete a particular ensemble anyway... sammydress.com/product792582.html

the pants cost more though...

Seth

18:57

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Q: Baffled by high-rep C vs. C++ axe-grinding. How should I react?

So recently I got a comment on one of my old answers. When I wrote the answer I didn't know too much about writing scopes in any programming language (I still don't). In this case I did my research and posted my conclusions of my findings, with links and everything it. Now this commenter comes b...

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I knew that was coming.

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Q: Baffled by high-rep C vs. C++ axe-grinding. How should I react?

So recently I got a comment on one of my old answers. When I wrote the answer I didn't know too much about writing scopes in any programming language (I still don't). In this case I did my research and posted my conclusions of my findings, with links and everything it. Now this commenter comes b...

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Q: Downvote without consequences?

Just curious: I checked my behaviour on upvoting / downvoting; the rate is almost 30:1, which means I am not much of a downvoter. A few days ago however one of these rare occasions took place, and I was prepared to be "knocked out" by the loss of no less than 1 point reputation. However, up to ...

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hbdgaf

@Seth You want to do it, or should I?

Oliver Schöning

:( Aw.. my PC keeps having freezeups with ubuntu.. 3 so far in the last 3 hours of having it installed

Seth

@hbdgaf I'm bypassing the problem by talking to Planella in IRC :P

I'll handle it.

Mateo

I'll take screens, It is plastered C++ all over the place in the SDK...

hbdgaf

19:07

How about this:
I don't have an axe to grind. I edited your answer because it wasn't accurate, and at the time you wrote it you didn't understand the difference. It crossed my screen for some reason, I honestly don't remember why. Probably related to the recent scopes competition (read as I didn't single you out for no reason).

So, I didn't edit David Planella's answer, which you referenced because he said the words C**. That indicates that he understands the difference and will make a future reader ask themselves what he meant. You did no such thing, so I did the edit.

Mateo

that is the only source I need

Seth

@hbdgaf The C** was part of the formatting, ** was ending the bold of earlier.

Hi, so the original plan was to have a C interface, but that has evolved into having a C++ interface, which makes it easier to use the Qt APIs the rest of the platform already has available. Sorry for the confusion, I'll update the original (outdated) answer. — David Planella 2 mins ago

Oliver Schöning

What do I do with the crash details from "Internal Error" ? It's not really made to be copy-pasted

hbdgaf

@Seth the formatting didn't take? then it's a gross misunderstanding. either way.

Mateo

hm, this might be interesting: developer.yahoo.com/boss/search wonder if the ad hits would be worth the price...

Seth

19:14

@hbdgaf This is what I see:

@hbdgaf I ninja'd your comment there, if you don't mind.

hbdgaf

@Seth it's fine.

Whatever edit happened made the formatting appear correctly. I suspect the thing is going to continue.

The comment pretty much says it though.

lazyPower

@hbdgaf re: throw more hardware at it - thats what we're seeing a lot of in the big data community

a map/reduce job can take days or weeks to complete churning - and the only way to really make it better rather than spend weeks/months refactoring map/reduce jobs is to spin up additionall paraell compute units.

hbdgaf

@lazyPower that's sort of where I was going. it was just an interesting topic to say "When is hardware cheaper than programmers?"

Seth

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A: Baffled by high-rep C vs. C++ axe-grinding. How should I react?

Ok, so it seems the original plan was to port scopes to C, but later the plan changed to C++ and the original answer didn't get updated. Fast forward to now and the API is all C++. Your answer came up around a scopes discussion in chat regarding the scope development competition. Since all of the...

Just a simple misunderstanding.

hbdgaf

totally.

Whaaaaaat

19:29

I need a new mouse for gaming. How's this one look?

razerzone.com/gaming-mice/razer-naga-epic-chroma

hbdgaf

I like it, but there's a thing I like more...

There was a mouse where you had a wrist wrest that operated a sort of joystick, and all five fingers had buttons. no cellphone keypad on the side. seemed more functional.

Mateo

@Whaaaaaat are those speakers in the front of the mouse?

hbdgaf

the naga is a silly complex mouse. you don't need that many MORE buttons. you need as many as possible USABLE buttons.

Geez > meta.askubuntu.com/questions/12218/…

I'm more than a little irritated.

@Rinzwind - you see what happens when you run off trying to educate people... they go all "meta question" stupid.

he obviously still doesn't understand the difference. it's just an "I quoted a source" thing. so he lays all the blame on his source, not the misunderstanding itself.

Rinzwind

19:48

@hbdgaf :D hey I said what I said cuz I wanted a laugh

hbdgaf

>.< sometimes you make me more than a little irritated. you know that?

i'm not holding it against you or anything. it's just one of those things where i wind up being a trout-wielding madman.

Mateo

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Rinzwind

we Dutch are all like that :=)

hbdgaf

@Mateo some days mateo... some days, you just make this all a little easier.

i laughed so hard i think i cried a little

Mateo

:)

Rinzwind

19:52

@hbdgaf I like you!! :=)

this is SO MUCH better:

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"Helllllllllllo Polly!" _O-

hbdgaf

that parrot bit made me giggle too.

Rinzwind

1st time i saw that I went numb from laughing

hbdgaf

I'm still not sure everyone is getting the same jokes i'm getting, but it does make me feel a little better.

Rinzwind

ha!

telegraph.co.uk/culture/comedy/comedy-news/10459538/…

it is #1 :D The killing joke was briljant too_O-

hbdgaf

Yes, all of monty and black adder was good. People just remind me constantly why I don't talk to them...

Rinzwind

20:00

don't forget Fawlty Towers. Only 13 episodes but what episodes they where :D

hbdgaf

This is also true. I love british comedy in a way that might be considered more than a little unhealthy ;)

Whaaaaaat

@hbdgaf MMOs.

@hbdgaf I acutally need most of those buttons to quickly switch things around.

@hbdgaf DSchinn wanted to do that as well.

hbdgaf

Then you need to learn to use both hands. The other hand can hit pair keys to make a third key a shortcut. You don't need all those tiny buttons.

Whaaaaaat

@Mateo I'm actually not sure. When I make $120 and my current mouse breaks, I'll tell you.

@hbdgaf But WASD!

Also, it makes me look badass.

Rinzwind

@Whaaaaaat mx 705. best mouse ever :=)

hbdgaf

20:04

I can hit wasd and ctl-shift at the same time.

Whaaaaaat

@Rinzwind Current is a M510.

@hbdgaf I don't have six fingers on one hand.

Rinzwind

@Whaaaaaat older sister of the 705! so excellent too.

Whaaaaaat

@Rinzwind I love it, but it's dying.

hbdgaf

ctl-shift is one finger. wasd is three. where are you getting the other two?

Whaaaaaat

It's dropping my clicks and is losing sensitivity very fast.

Rinzwind

20:06

@hbdgaf 3 middle fingers on the wasd. pinky on control and on shift

Whaaaaaat

But i like macros.

Also, I'm going to use this mouse for tons more stuff.

Rinzwind

ring finger on a; middle on w and s index on d :=)

hbdgaf

exactly. that leaves the thumb free to jump or press another button.

Whaaaaaat

Imagine the ability to run commands with one keypress.

Rinzwind

@hbdgaf see we agree more often than you would have believed 30 minutes ago! :+)

Whaaaaaat

20:07

Get IP address with a single key.

ls with another.

hbdgaf

@Rinzwind oh, i knew we agreed. i just didn't think i was the one that should always take the piss.

Whaaaaaat

ssh into a server with a third key.

hbdgaf

that's a different game.

Whaaaaaat

Either way, it has RGB leds, so that's another reason I want it.

Rinzwind

lol

Rinzwind

20:24

see you all 2morrow :-)

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