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Undo

00:04

Smokey is live in here.

Seth

yep, I was just going to post a message about that.

Since I got no obvious objections I have enabled the Smoke Detector bot to post obvious spam and titles containing offensive words. This feature is rather experimental, but it should still be stable. If he starts going crazy please either ping a mod or use a moderator only flag and ask him to be removed from the access lists.

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I was going to add "[I enabled it] with @Undo's awesome help" but that made the message too long, so here it is instead ;)

Seth

02:07

I don't think this is a duplicate:

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Q: Explanation of the command to check shellshock

Here is the command I have used to check my bash shell for the Shellshock bug: env x='() { :;}; echo vulnerable' bash -c "echo this is a test" Can anyone please explain the command in details?

Opinions?

I don't think asking how the shell shock test works is the same as asking what it is and how to patch it (FWIW the first canonical question doesn't give a detailed explanation on how it works)

RPi Awesomeness

02:23

Bonjour!

Seth

¡Hola!

RPi Awesomeness

@Seth I'd say leave it. It's got a good answer (20+ upvotes) and I think it's just fine.

Seth

Leave it meaning?

RPi Awesomeness

not a dupe

Seth

Ah, good, because I already reopened it :P

After looking at the canonical shellshock I saw that it doesn't explain the checking code at all so..

RPi Awesomeness

02:27

Yeah, I think it's fine

I mean really, are we going to remove a question w. an answer that has nearly 30 upvotes?

I think that goes against what we are as a network, a Q/A site

@Seth Sweet!

Chan-Ho Suh

02:39

osnews.com/story/27969/Why_did_Microsoft_skip_Windows_9_

Andrew

What ever happen to Menu key on keyboards?

Seth

02:59

you mean the context menu key (i.e. the one that generates a right click?) or another key?

@Chan-HoSuh It is true too, let me get the link.

searchcode.com/?q=startswith%28%22windows%5c+9%22%29

hm, well copy the entire thing.

there we go.

Andrew

03:16

@seth that key in the center

Seth

yep, that's the one I'm talking about.

I have one..

I think most HP machines still do.

Andrew

Why don't they make keyboard with them anymore

It is like a dead key

@Seth The last time I have seen it on a keyboard was when it was mad in the early 2000's. When I was still young like 5 or 6, and was just playing around with the keys to see what they do.

Seth

amazon.com/s/… first four keyboards all have it.

I stopped checking after that.

Andrew

You are right

@Seth why don't they still make keyboard with a Macro key?

Macro key

A Macro key is a key that was featured on various early PC keyboards, and has been removed from most keyboards since. It is typically found on the lower rows of the keyboard, either to the left of the Z key or to the right of the right Ctrl. While most keyboard layouts treat it as a backslash, it has a different scan code, so keyboard layouts or programs use the scan code directly, or they can choose to handle it differently. On many new, top-of-the-line computer mice, there are built-in macro keys. These mice often come with a software specifically designed to fit the needs of that mouse. These...

Seth

according to that article the default action was just a backslash.

Not very useful, so I bet they removed it for space and cost reasons.

Andrew

03:30

@Seth I hate laptop keyboard because they are not ergonomic.

@Seth I want laptops to have keyboard like these amazon.com/dp/B0061ZPE72/?tag=pcpapi-20

No Time

I need to buy stuff to build a computer for edbuntu any suggestions for sites i need to use?

you can ping me if anyone has idears

Seth

03:47

@NoTime pcpartpicker.com comes to mind.

ubuntu.com/certification also comes to mind.

No Time

@Seth thank you, I just am getting overwhelmed trying to pick a computer to build and then look at what is compatible, those should help (having them in one spot).. then newegg?

Seth

I don't really use newegg, so I can't say much about that.

No Time

kinda hard to figure everything out because, it's like by brand of PC (since a lot more people install over a pre-win computer)

I'm working it though

Journeyman Geek

04:05

@NoTime if you don't need a load of power, nuc class systems are nice.

Eliah Kagan

But then, man 8 sync talks about reboot calling sync (presumably when invoked without --force, since with --force I think after performing logging it may just be a wrapper for reboot(2))‌. Which makes me think maybe reboot --force might not ensure cached writes are flushed to disk.

Does anybody know if reboot --force flushes writes to disk? It invokes the reboot system call but I can't tell if that causes them to be flushed to disk. It logs its own operation to /var/log/wtmp, suggesting that it does flush cached writes (otherwise the log wouldn't be reliable).

The real question--I think--is whether the reboot system call tries to flush cached writes to disk. (Its manpage doesn't seem to say.)

No Time

@JourneymanGeek I am getting a bunch of parts to build with kid for his b-day

Eliah Kagan

The reason I'm looking for this info is, I want to know if I should do (and recommend others do) something special after booting with init=/bin/dash (or similar), remounting / readwrite, and making changes. Is Ctrl+Alt+Delete adequate? reboot -f? (Plain reboot, as well as init 6, will not work when init is a shell instead of a real init daemon.) Should / be manually remounted back to readonly before rebooting, in this scenario?

Journeyman Geek

@NoTime ahh.

No Time

@JourneymanGeek so I have to find something that will look kinda cool, be sturdy, and run edbuntu, and possibly dual boot for Win 7

since you know I'm evil

Journeyman Geek

04:13

Eheh. I run two windows boxen

No Time

Im at 785 so far on a build.. I know I don't need to spend that much

or I could just buy something

I need to figure out what I need to zap

Journeyman Geek

That sounds alright actually. What's your build look like?

No Time

like do I need an uber processor.. or will it be ok for a kid to just have a low end

Journeyman Geek

Hm.brb

No Time

i started over :/ it was i3, with 16 GB RAM on a Gigabit mobo, 125$ case, hdd, optical combo, some extra compound, a keyboard mouse

Seth

04:20

does Launchpad not build an amd64 version of a package if the architecture is set to all in debian/control?

No Time

im actually building a computer with onboards..

@Seth unsure bro

Journeyman Geek

@NoTime go with 8, and you can probably go a little cheaper on the case. Forget cooling paste on a non OC rig.

No Time

@JourneymanGeek I am going super lean now I dropped about 300$ off price so far.. Ill send a link once I am done.. trying to figure out what a 9 yo would actually need :)

geez 12k for a 1.6TB SSD

@JourneymanGeek how much over on wattage should I go do you think?

for psu

For anyone who wants to see.. and see if I paid enough attention

pcpartpicker.com/p/BpJCCJ

Journeyman Geek

04:58

@NoTime: that PSU seems overkill by a lot

a 300w psu should cover it with legroom to spare

why the pcie network card?

also, double the ram if you can, 4gb is a bit on the low end for a modern box imo

otherwise, decent first build

Eliah Kagan

@Seth I'm not 100% sure, but I think Launchpad builds just an _all.deb for architecture-independent packages. For example, fetching package details (i.e., expanding any of the version entries) for bash-completion in Ubuntu reveals bash-completion_2.1-4_all.deb (or similar, with a different version number) as the only .deb file.

And it seems to work the same for PPAs: for example, bash-completion as provided by launchpad.net/~minos-archive/+archive/ubuntu/main/+packages.

Seth

@EliahKagan yes, it looks like you are correct. I guess it just appears as i386 in the build queue.

Eliah Kagan

05:13

@Seth Yes, I think that's it. Expanding launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bash-completion for Trusty (and older) lists just i386 under builds, but it's still an _all.deb. I see the same thing for launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bikeshed in all releases.

Seth

Cool, thanks :)

@jokerdino There you go. I've tested it in 2 VMs and on 2 physical machines (including my own) and it seems to work fine. Right now it only supports trusty, but hopefully by the time you read this it will have built for precise (if I did that right..).

and with that I'm off for bed.

Pandya

05:36

I am going to start bounty on this. Is it ok?

@EliahKagan I want to create chat-room for close voters. Is it helpful or meaning less? (if yes then which type preferred public or gallery?)

Journeyman Geek

@Pandya: that's what the review queue replaced

Pandya

@JourneymanGeek I not fully understand what you are talking for. can you explain

Journeyman Geek

@Pandya: there used to be chatrooms for organising closevotes

BUT they're redundant now since you can use the review queue

Eliah Kagan

@Pandya It seems like a good idea to me. We used to have one (the "Regulators" room); now we don't. I wasn't around when it stopped being used, so I don't know what the reasons were. I think hbdgaf has suggested this.

@JourneymanGeek We have 50 close votes per day, and 20 close reviews (some of which will usually not result in close votes being cast). Of course we often come upon questions that need closure, outside of review. But as long as there's a big backlog in the queue, I think it makes sense to have other organized ways of looking at questions that might merit closure.

Journeyman Geek

05:51

ahh

true

Eliah Kagan

On the other hand, 10k users do have another way: the close votes tab of the 10k moderation tools.

(For the benefit of users who don't have 10k rep on any SE sites: It displays lists of questions that have accrued close votes. It doesn't give any extra power in voting to close a question, but it's handy for finding questions that could use a close vote. And some that really shouldn't get closed ...but unlike the review, it provides no special way to "demote" such questions out of the listing.)

The Data Explorer can also be used to find questions that might need close votes. (And it doesn't require high rep.) I'm not sure if that particular query still yields close-worthy questions, though. It seems to include questions that got close votes in the past but didn't get closed... including ones that were rightly not closed.

Pandya

@EliahKagan yes I see that room is frozen. Now Can that room be unfrozen? What should I do (create room)? Is there any moderator opinion/help about this topic possible?

Eliah Kagan

@Pandya We should maybe find out if there were any reasons, besides the improved review queue, for activity in the room having stopped. And maybe see how much interest there is. Meta?

Or we could just ask again in chat sometime when lots more people are around.

Pandya

@EliahKagan ok

Pandya

06:28

What is difference between this and this questions?

i.e "held broken packages" and "have unmet dependencies" are not equal?

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

07:33

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Q: Start menu position Linux Mint Petra

After I have right at the bottom panel->Add panel, then added the start menu button, the button now is located at the right corner of the panel, besides the month calendar. I want it to be where it always has been, at the left side of the panel. If I "move" the start menu to the left, I cant se...

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blade19899

07:48

3 questions in one: askubuntu.com/q/531689/36315

fossfreedom

edit and comment I would suggest

blade19899

@fossfreedom Need coffee. I thought i already commented xD

To coffee i go

fossfreedom

me - cuppa tea in hand :)

blade19899

08:02

@fossfreedom Cuppa cappuccino.

DuckDuckGo is awesome:

duckduckgo.com/Cappuccino

Kris Groove

10:28

hello all

Kris Groove

10:45

can some help me with that: pastebin.com/WFQVT35s ??

blade19899

10:56

Forgot how entertaining the Q's on StackExchange could be:

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Q: How do I drug a population in the most efficient way?

I want a whole city to be on drugs secretly, so they don´t know they are drugged by their government. The city is about 2 billion people and roughly structured like a Makropole from the Warhammer 40k universe. This means: Many levels 4 classes (Lower, higher, worker, and government class) L...

city-design

Ask Ubuntu Meta

13:24

0

Q: how to acces my profile on Ask Ubuntu if I've forgotten my OpenID?

Probably it's not the right place to ask this question, but maybe at least somebody would help me where should I ask it. When I was creating my profile on askubuntu.com I've chosen the option of logging with myOpenID. I didn't have it already, so I've created one that time, on askubuntu login pa...

support login

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: Converting NTFS to Ext3

I recently partitioned a new drive in windows to NTFS. I want to make it ext3 so that I can transfer a WUBI Ubuntu installation onto it. I don't care about the data on this partition. Is there a simple way to do this in either ubuntu or windows 7?

ubuntu partition ext3

Mateo

13:51

woo, let's see if this works in wine!

@KrisGroove is that my sql failing to start? what are we looking at, what are you trying to get working, from which instructions.

Avinash Raj

Yehhhh, i reached 50 k(global reps)..

Mateo

14:36

hrm, it runs, but only wants a xbox controller :(

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: How to run a script in multiple instances ? ( Ubuntu server )

How can I run a script in multiple instances in Ubuntu server? For example, I have a long running script named scanner.sh placed in /usr/bin/, which I wish to run the script in 10 parallel instances. How can I start the parallel tasks (and pass different flags / options / parameters to them)? ...

bash ubuntu shell-script

Lucio

14:58

I love a warming morning, so bring the fire!

@AvinashRaj hey dude, who did you pay to get so many Ks on SO?!

Avinash Raj

Hi @Luci

Lucio

Luci O.O

Avinash Raj

nick name..

Luci :-)

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: Disabling auto-login in Ubuntu with command line

Suppose auto-login to a session is active in Ubuntu. So there will not be an opertunity to select a session (e.g gnome, unity, kde, etc). But if the evvironment is corrupted there is no way to escape except command line. Is there a command to disable auto-login.

ubuntu login command

Lucio

@AvinashRaj haha, okay Avin

Hey Avin, why so many Ks in so few days?

Avinash Raj

15:03

no, Avi only.

Lucio

¬.¬

Avinash Raj

@Lucio REgex does the magic..

Lucio

oh

I remember that you asked me something about regex before your grow

Avinash Raj

yep...

i learned all the things from here+SO..

Lucio

http2.github.io/faq

@AvinashRaj I'm glad for you

I. Want. To. Have. One. Of. This.

2

o/ @jokerdino

Seth

15:33

@Lucio oooh.

Lucio

IKR

Avinash Raj

IKR??

Seth

I know right.

Lucio

I bet some of us is dressed like that :D

Avinash Raj

hmm

jokerdino

15:38

@Lucio hola

Lucio

hi there :D

how are you dude?

terdon

O_o?

-5

Q: How do I get Linux off my iPad 3

Linux has showed up on my hacked iPad how do I get rid of it?help don't ask

arch-linux

jokerdino

@Lucio I'm doing great. How do you do?

Seth

@terdon "help don't ask" haha.

jokerdino

I lol'ed

Lucio

15:40

hehe

@jokerdino I'm doing fine :)

about to start a new project

Another get-your-site-in-just-one-week

terdon

I'm more interested on how he got it on the iPad in the first place.

Lucio

why is arch-linux tagged?

jokerdino

@Lucio that sounds business-y

Lucio

business-y doesn't sound to me :P

jokerdino

was there actually an iPad-3?

terdon

15:43

@Lucio Probably because he thinks that Linux is the arch-enemy.

jokerdino

@Lucio do you plan to make mucho money?

Lucio

oh no

Is just me or youtube is broken?

here it is, back to life again

jokerdino

link?

Seth

@jokerdino and 4 and then... air.. waves hands mysteriously. Apple kindly just called the 3 and 4 "new iPad" for maximum confusion though.

jokerdino

Haha, that's what I remembered.

Lucio

15:46

@jokerdino to where?

jokerdino

and this new iWatch sounds almost like a parody.

@Lucio to broken youtube. never mind it now.

Lucio

the whole thing was broken

jokerdino

I just wanted to see if you link me to whatever you were currently watching ;)

Lucio

I was no watching anything really

searching for videos

Mateo

Quick preview of Hyper Light Drifter I recorded(skip foward about 40 seconds):

►

Lucio

15:48

but 0 results were found (there, broken)

@Mateo it worked on Wine?

jokerdino

maybe you were searching for perky stuff.

Avinash Raj

@jokerdino Happy saraswathy pooja ...

Lucio

songs..

Mateo

@Lucio with a bit of hacking on my part ;)

jokerdino

@AvinashRaj thank you.

@AvinashRaj nothing spectacular though

Avinash Raj

15:52

yep..

Lucio

►

Why the hell isn't HTML5 the default in youtube. Are we on 2014??

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: Install from a deb file, by dpkg -i or by apt?

I have a deb package for installation. Shall I install by dpkg -i my.deb, or by apt? Will both handle the software dependency problem well? If by apt, how can I install from the deb by apt? Thanks.

ubuntu software-installation

Lucio

If not wrong, this weekend is the London derby

@jokerdino right?

terdon

16:25

When did Ubuntu (or is it Unity) add these annoying windows style messages? Things like "System error detected. Report? Cancel"

They are singularly useless. What error? Which program?

I'm guessing they're only so common on my machine 'cause it's a VM that I keep screwing with, but why in the world would they make such an uninformative message?

Lucio

@terdon it is very common on my system

@terdon there is a Details button

I would love to disable them :(

people told me how but still...

@terdon I think since 13.04 they are common

now dinner. Cya!

terdon

@Lucio Not on mine. I have to first choose to send a report, then give my password and then I get somewhere with the details. Sheesh!

That's as bad as Windows. Well, almost, at least I do eventually get to the details.

jokerdino

16:43

@Lucio yes. Chelsea vs Arsenal.

@Seth Nice work!

Seth

16:55

@jokerdino Thank you. First time trying that so I'm sure it isn't near perfect. You don't happen to be running 12.04 do you?

Actually, nevermind. I know what I'll do.

jokerdino

@Seth No. I'm on F21.

Seth

F21?

jokerdino

Fedora 21. Sorry

Seth

Oh, right. Should have known :)

jokerdino

;P

Joshua Robison

17:02

im having a hard time finding some info on google

because im not BELEIVING the results im getting

BELIEV

Can someone confirm what the current version of xfce is?

jokerdino

Make. Believe.

Joshua Robison

itcant be 4.10 right?

jokerdino

It's been 4.10 since two years now

Joshua Robison

that was released over two years ago right?

Seth

yep, 4.10.

Two years ago.

Joshua Robison

17:05

that sike huge news to me

seems*

terdon

Why do you believe random people on the internet over what it says on their own website?

Joshua Robison

but i have not read any big blogs covering that story

Seth

@terdon maybe just confirmation? I dunno.. I just quoted the website ;p

jokerdino

►

Joshua Robison

2 years with no new release in sight is a huge issue

jokerdino

17:07

they are just slow moving

Joshua Robison

if i didnt release a blog article or podcast for two years...

TWO YEARS

jokerdino

That reminds me.. gotta check out my blog

Joshua Robison

where did all the developers go?

that is serious abandonment

thanks for confirming that for me though

away to bed for me

see you all in three or so years

jokerdino

cya

Lucio

18:32

@jokerdino omg. what a crap

gotta say that it is a catchy song u.u

user939259

18:55

Anyone know why running chsh would give the error "You may not change the shell for 'myusername'." ?

Eliah Kagan

19:48

@user939259 Are you running chsh with no arguments (i.e., just typing chsh and pressing Enter)? Or in some other way?

@user939259 Assuming the limited user is running chsh with the correct syntax (i.e., either with no arguments or with their username as the argument), I think the most likely cause of "You may not change the shell for..." is that the shell you're trying to change it to--or the shell you're trying to change it from--isn't one of the allowed shells listed in /etc/shells.

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Q: 14.04 Not authenticating on chsh command

I am trying to change my default shell to zsh. I have the entry placed correctly in /etc/shells file. Each attempt I have made with this command has ended with the same error message: chsh -s $(which zsh) Password: ### after entering the correct password chsh: PAM: Authentication failure su...

command-line 14.04 pam chsh

g_p

20:11

I have a question. Is it ok to create a list of installed packages, which is installed after a certain time , from /var/log/dpkg.log and purge each package if I want to revert the change of installation to certain time.

Eliah Kagan

20:23

Well, `dpkg.log` has entries for when packages are upgraded to newer versions. For example, I have
2014-10-03 14:43:03 status installed pulseaudio:amd64 1:4.0-0ubuntu21
even though the pulseaudio package was installed before that, at an earlier version. If I were to parse dpkg.log to dump package names from "install" lines and purge them, I'd end up removing pulseaudio and a number of other highly essential packages.
(Sorry, my original example was bad because it was actually from the original system installation.)

g_p

Thanks for pointing out this. I totally missed it.

Eliah Kagan

How were the packages you want removed installed originally? Logs in /var/log/apt may be easier to work with. (This is mostly separate from the issue of upgraded packages being listed, as they're listed in them too.)

g_p

Actually I was searching an answer for this question. askubuntu.com/questions/531925/…

Eliah Kagan

@g_p Oh. Well, since the packages that caused other unwanted packages to be installed as dependencies are known, they can simply themselves be purged and then the dependencies can be purged with sudo apt-get --purge autoremove.

(Or it can all be done in a single step with sudo apt-get --purge autoremove package-list where package-list is replaced with the specific unwanted packages that were explicitly installed.)

g_p

Yes for *-desktop, it will work. I was thinking about date and time.

Eliah Kagan

20:33

@g_p Yeah, that doesn't select for that ...but this appears to be an XY problem where removing all automatically installed dependencies of those two packages, that aren't needed for other manually installed software, is actually what's desired.

g_p

It was just a general question. Link was just for a reference. I would be really good, if we can revert the change to some to some specific date and time.

Eliah Kagan

@g_p I agree, that would be useful.

g_p

@EliahKagan. Thanks for you precious time.

Eliah Kagan

I suspect people have written stuff about how to make a list of (newly) installed packages since a particular date/time. Then, subject to some cautionary warnings, I think it would be reasonable to suggest a procedure that uses that technique (whatever it is) and removes or purges the packages in the list. I'm not sure how to elegantly produce the list though.

There's Is it possible to get a list of most recently installed packages?, which you may have seen. The answers there don't distinguish between upgrades and newly installed packages as far as I can tell, though. Comments on that answer say it doesn't list updates but I don't see why that would be. Maybe I'm missing something.

Seth

20:53

Oh hey, while you're around @EliahKagan, the Regulators room froze because no one was using it. If you want to use it and will I'll gladly unfreeze it for you. Other people asked me to once, but then didn't use it and it froze again

It would help me too because, recently, I don't have much time to dig through the close queue/10k tools.

Eliah Kagan

@Seth Well, personally I use the 10k close page a lot to find questions that may need closure. I'll likely participate some in the Regulators room if people want to use it, but if it's just me and other 10k users, we might not need it. I do think it would probably be good to let <10k users collaborate more efficiently to figure out what questions need closure and get them closed.

Seth

@EliahKagan I agree with you there completely. Not much need for it anymore except for <10k users, but they don't seem to use it so I remain somewhat unconvinced.

Eliah Kagan

@g_p I was indeed missing something. The status lines in /var/log/dpkg.log don't (easily) parse out to tell you what packages are new, but the install lines do. I think.

So grep ' install ' /var/log/dpkg.log might be a good way to start. (Based on askubuntu.com/a/17013/22949, with unnecessary cat and unnecessary \ quoting taken out.)

g_p

Yes. It is using install for both old and new packages.

Eliah Kagan

Does it use it for upgraded packages, even on lines that look like
2014-10-03 16:38:08 install libsdl-net1.2:amd64 <none> 1.2.8-4
?

(Both get status installed lines but it seems like upgraded packages don't generate `<date> <time> install <packagename>:<arch> ...." lines.)

g_p

21:03

@EliahKagan yes, It is using it for upgraded packages too. Here is one line which is of an upgrade. 2014-10-04 02:29:15 status installed libmagic1 5.09-2ubuntu0.5

Eliah Kagan

@g_p Right but that's a status line with installed. That's what I was looking at, at first, too. But I think lines that say install instead of status installed either usually or always document newly installed packages. (You can look at the output of grep ' install ' /var/log/dpkg.log to help see if this is correct.)

g_p

@EliahKagan Yes, you are right, 'install' is only for newly install packages.

It may be good point to start with.

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: Uninstall application under /opt?

I have adobe reader installed under /opt/Adobe/Reader9. /opt/Adobe/Reader9$ ls * bin: acroread Browser: HowTo install_browser_plugin intellinux Reader: AcroVersion Cert GlobalPrefs help IDTemplates intellinux JavaScripts Legal PDFSigQFormalRep.pdf pmd.cer Tracker Resource: CMap F...

ubuntu software-installation

meda

21:43

is clonezilla helpful for backups

or ist just suited for cloning

Eliah Kagan

@meda You can use Clonezilla to back up a partition or disk by creating an image of it. But it doesn't easily facilitate freshening individual files and directories on the backup image. So it may or may not be what you want, for backup. Almost certainly it will not be the only way you back things up. For making occasional backups of your entire system to facilitate re-imaging, it is a good solution.

meda

Ok thanks for this info @EliahKagan

What would be a good solution for server backups, no interface so easy commands

Eliah Kagan

@meda I'm not sure exactly what you need, but rsync might be what you're looking for.

help.ubuntu.com/community/rsync

hbdgaf

22:03

what's with the new icon over the star-wall? ... nevermind, cleaned my monitor.

Ask Ubuntu Meta

22:35

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Q: bug reporting on askubuntu is buggy

Google gave me: hud-service is using 800 MB, is this necessary? which was good enough for my purposes -- to try and understand why and what this is, and, for me, why it pegs the CPU. I might or not be experiencing the same, or a similar, bug. In any event, I don't think bug type questions a...

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