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Thomas Boxley

16:06

sup

bai

Amith kk

Hello @ThomasBoxley Welcome to AU Chat

Alvar

16:17

is this a question that might be better on stackoverflow?
http://askubuntu.com/q/58996/10698

Jorge Castro

no

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htorque

nope, he specifically asks for ubuntu-related bindings :)

Alvar

ok :)

is stackoverflow limited to any languages?

lazyPower

nope, you can post about any programming language.

htorque

can post questions about HTML? >:D

Alvar

16:23

ok...

lazyPower

HTML is a markup language, not a programming language

htorque

i know, that's why this guy ">:D"

Alvar

@lazyPower I am really annoyed that you have changed your picture! Change back!

lazyPower

Nah, it signifies the pwning of noobs that i do

Alvar

@lazyPower lols

lazyPower

16:24

i do it for the lulz

Alvar

@lazyPower wow, there is someone that is more bored than me! cool

lazyPower

i'm anything but bored Alvar. I'm doing homework, chatting, about ot wrap up the homework and resume work. I deployed 2 more servers on EC2 lastnight, teh day before was a 13 hour day doing backend work on a penny auction site i'm developing for a client, also went to school in the AM, day before that was a 15 hour day between my day job and my side projects....

i dont think boredom is a factor in my life anymore

Amith kk

@lazyPower im a n00b in webservers

lazyPower

@Amithkk you're just inexperienced in the environment i've given you. With some time you'll understand enough to be effective in scripting in it

Alvar

I really need to learn how to make a OK site...

Amith kk

16:28

@Alvar ?.....

Rinzwind

@Alvar that's easy :=)

lazyPower

@Alvar the best way to do so is to practice at it, and read design blogs.

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Alvar

all my atempts looks liek they came from the 90's!

Amith kk

@lazyPower +1

Alvar

@lazyPower I hate designing, but good tip! :) got any links?

Jorge Castro

16:29

did someone say ec2?

Amith kk

@JorgeCastro Yes @lazyPower did

lazyPower

You'll discover that most of the "wizardry" in todays design markup is a hybrid of CSS 3.x and javascript interactivity

Amith kk

@JorgeCastro \o

lazyPower

I did @JorgeCastro

Amith kk

jquery is AWESOME!

Jorge Castro

16:29

make me some ensemble formulas yo

Alvar

@lazyPower I don't know any css, JS, and just some HTML :(

aaah...

I need to go to the shops!

@Amithkk BBL

Jorge Castro

total users: 19,567

so close

lazyPower

very very close indeed

Alvar

drumroll!

lazyPower

hi5 for having a thriving community fellas

Alvar

16:30

creating fake accounts...

lazyPower

@Alvar css-tricks.com is a good one

Alvar

@lazyPower can't find it...

lazyPower

yeah i had the wrong link

Alvar

@lazyPower this looks like a start at least! :)

lazyPower

also, when you get sreious about your designs

and need to track them, read this article

css-tricks.com/video-screencasts/…

git is your best friend, forever, and always.

ok back to homework.

Amith kk

16:33

BBL

Alvar

@lazyPower a version controler? what for?

@lazyPower me too...

lazyPower

To track your code revisions and make it SANE to undo stupid mistakes

version control is the ultimate undo button

Jorge Castro

@htorque hey, one eyed rick is finally stableish for me

lazyPower

i have everything from my client codebase, to my dotfiles under version control.

my favorite commit message of the day: CPP2 Revision 1d7adacb: lameness erased -- injected with awesomesauce for a fix

htorque

@JorgeCastro yeah, it's getting better - it better should be so close to beta ;)

unity-panel-service memory leak when starting various applications

Opening various programs causes unity-panel-service to use more and more resident memory (that won't be freed after program termination). Attaching a valgrind log of unity-panel-service containing ten starts of Kile (which caused unity-panel-service to go from 23 MB to 119 MB resident memory usage): ==8130== LEAK SUMMARY: ==8130== definitely lost: 45,015 bytes in 508 blocks ==8130== indirectly lost: 203,173 bytes in 5,553 blocks ==8130== possibly lost: 23,453 bytes in 450 blocks ==8130== still reachable: 28,961,416 bytes in 525,544 blocks TEST CASE: 1. Open a gnome-terminal window. 2. Run 'while true; do ps aux | grep unity-panel-service | grep -v grep; sleep 1; done' and monitor the sixth column (resident memory usage in KB). 3a. Open and close Gimp, or if zou don't have that installed: 3b. Open and close Nautilus. RESULTS: For 3a: memory increases by ~12 MB. For 3b: memory increases by ~2 MB. I'm currently running Unity from trunk (r1455) but this also happens w…

unity

High / Confirmed

that's a bad one though

also compiz doesn't like minimized applications right now... try restarting unity with minimized windows → you can't raise them

lazyPower

16:47

i suffered that bug a while back, must be a regression

htorque

what's up with mr. shuttleworth? i wanna know the P codename :)

Takkat

17:25

Good evening :)

Rinzwind

heya Takkat!

Takkat

What a sunny and nice day out at the Lake of Constance this was :)

Rinzwind

cool now go answers some questions >:)

lol

Marco Ceppi

17:52

Power's back!

Mana

@MarcoCeppi Huzzah!

Roland Taylor

congrats @MarcoCeppi

Got home a few mins ago, now seeing the damage on TV.

Alvar

damage?

Roland Taylor

@htorque do you have a bug for that? I'm affected and I'd like to follow the bug.

Alvar

in new york?

Roland Taylor

17:55

@Alvar not yet

Alvar

ok...

Marco Ceppi

@lazyPower That guy talks a lot

Roland Taylor

@Alvar lol sorry I forgot if it is Colorado? Or South Carolina or something.

Alvar

@RolandTaylor ok...

Rinzwind

Colorado 5.3 and Virginia 5.9 Roland

Roland Taylor

17:56

@Rinzwind hmm?

Alvar

5.9?

Roland Taylor

there was an earthquake again?

Rinzwind

Earthquake or was that not what you meant? :=)

Roland Taylor

was at Church - has no clue what is going on right now

Alvar

really? :O

Rinzwind

17:56

no these was last week ;)

Roland Taylor

lol I'm talking about Irene (a hurricane)

Rinzwind

oh that was nothing acc. to Dutch TV >:-D

Roland Taylor

(I forgot I was on chromium and don't have my greasemonkey scripts installed, so /me won't work... :P)

Alvar

@RolandTaylor I thought so too :P

@Rinzwind I heard that new york were emptied of people

last night on Swedish TV!

there you see! Swedish TV is better than Dutch!

Rinzwind

In Holland last week it was PITCH dark from 1 PM to 3 PM :D

then it started to thunder and rain like crazy :D

Alvar

18:01

woow... ( who knew?!)

Rinzwind

this was taking 20 min before it covered the whole sky:

that was during daytime >:D

w00t made 207 rep today \o/

Alvar

@Rinzwind are you automatically shot down now? :)

@Rinzwind cool

Rinzwind

@Alvar I hope not :-X

Alvar

@Rinzwind there are a lot of sites which cover the area for thunders and where they strike it's kind of awesome..

blixtvarning.se/nsbig.php

there probably are dutch versions also! :P

Rinzwind

yeah on a dutch forum I visit daily we have a couple of threads for pixs and a quake watch and a vulcano topic

Alvar

18:07

@Rinzwind cool

doesn anyone get this? (except roldand taylor)

plus.google.com/109247583700786556544/posts/PU42a26kisB

Roland Taylor

@Marco how is it now (weather wise)?

Alvar

isn't marco in Washington DC ? is it that bad there also? :O

Marco Ceppi

Hurricane is over

Alvar

cool

Rinzwind

good

Alvar

18:14

we had sunny all day, and now just as I got inside heavy rain started falling! perfect timing :)

Listening to the 500 greatest songs ever :P

Rinzwind

I was listening to grease just now :-X had tv on with the movie and never paid attention to it >:D

Alvar

haha

Rinzwind

now I seem to be watching Ice Age while waitingfor The Last Remnant to install :=)

Alvar

@Rinzwind hahaha :P

I really need to stop hanging here...

Rinzwind

:D

Alvar

18:17

I have some math to do...

bbl

Rinzwind

bai!

lol "You've earned the "Sportsmanship" badge. See your profile"

Roland Taylor

back

I thought Marco was closer to the storm

Oh get this one: according to a mayor talking on CNN right now, people are going for a swim in the flood waters...

stupid does not begin to describe...

Rinzwind

depends on the type of floodwaters ;) here in Holland ppl take out a cano (kano? kanoo?) and go peddling :=)

Roland Taylor

Canoe :)

@Rinzwind btw these are overflowing-river... flood waters. The type that can lead to flash floods, and such.

Rinzwind

ah! those are dangerous :D

we mostly have calm overflooding rivers :-P

oh in Eindhoven where I work they created an underground bicycle storage where ppl can put their bicycles when going into town. During the rain last week ALL the water got into that place due to the road above slightly going down to that place. it got filled up to the top of the place :D

if you wanted your bike you'd need scuba gear :D

Roland Taylor

18:29

loool

That actually sounds like fun to me... but... that's just me :P

brb switching to firefox

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Q: How do I put a web application on the Launcher?

Sometimes I see pictures of screenshots with people with web applications and nice icons on their launcher, how can I set this up?

@Jorge is this question still specific to 11.04?

Jorge Castro

18:47

and 11.10

but it's different than 10.10 which is why I tagged it

Roland Taylor

Oh okay.
Makes me think; can we have tags like (for example) "11.04+" (which in the tag description would be for 11.04 and up)?

Questions Feed

Developing app for Ubuntu in HTML and JS http://t.co/dAeuBQD #development

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on August 28, 2011 at 6:40 PM

fatai

hey, I have a question. I think someone will hep me . I have a question in this cite and second one in secure.stackexchange. These two question are more related . How can I connect them? See my two question then say me how .

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Q: How to delete file(s) in secure manner?

Is there a way to make sure that a deleted file can not be recovered? As you know, deleting a file by pressing shift-del or using trash doesn't mean that file is gone forever. It resides somewhere in the computer. In day to day life, law enforcement or thieves use recovery programs to reveal o...

linux delete

2

Q: What should one do when he/she wants to protect him/her home--computer--?

As you know, deleting a file by pressing shift-delete or by using the Trash doesn't mean that the file is unrecoverable. It's data persists on your computer. In day to day life, adversaries use recovery programs to attempt to undelete private data. There are some program that provide secure era...

encryption hardening privacy memory

Rinzwind

@RolandTaylor would it not be better to then add 11.04 and 11.10 tags?

Roland Taylor

@Rinzwind then we will later have to add 12.04, 12.10, 13.04...

It's easier with a version+ tag for questions that address issues in a series.

Rinzwind

19:02

But if you do add 11.04+ you also need a 11.04-11.10 range and a 11.04- >:D

Roland Taylor

(One con to that I can see is that if a later version drops support then you have problems).

Rinzwind

yeah I was about to post that too >;-D

Roland Taylor

Apart from those issues, it would be a novel tagging system if you ask me :)

Rinzwind

LOL

Marco Ceppi

Why even bother tagging with a version in the first place

Rinzwind

19:04

that's to make my frontpage alter color ;-)

see the comment :D

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Q: Why is my mouse getting crazy at moments

My mouse has gone completely crazy This question has been asked but nobody answered it and I got the same problem a few times now.It just start moving randomly selecting items randomly and all of that lasts about 5-8 seconds when it return to my beahivour.I am not sure if I had this problem in Ub...

unity mouse

he's impatient >:D

Roland Taylor

@MarcoCeppi see Jorge's reason

not sure why my vote rate is down so much :/

Roland Taylor

19:35

hi @dv3500ea, long time no ocean.

dv3500ea

@RolandTaylor hi

lol did you edit your post or did my brain automatically convert 'ocean' to 'see'?

Roland Taylor

:)

Your brain is in perfect working order :D

No editing involved ;)

George Edison

20:14

Hello.

FlackBot's server is still down :(

Roland Taylor

20:35

You need to switch to Ondina //shameless plug off

htorque

@RolandTaylor don't know if there's a bug report, but devs know about it (and don't like it :P) so i'm positive we'll see it fixed sooner than later :)

Roland Taylor

What's that?

(I forgot :P)

htorque

the compiz thing with minimized windows

sorry, i fell asleep :D

Roland Taylor

Oh I found it thanks :)

I wonder if my network bug will be fixed before release :/

my bro sometimes needs to share the network and it's a bummer

htorque

:-/

htorque

21:32

good night all

Questions Feed

21:58

How to use global hotkeys when in fullscreen game? http://t.co/I0sGVh7 #shortcutkeys

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on August 28, 2011 at 9:40 PM

Explorer

22:41

hi , anyone knows what's the equivalent keys on Ubuntu as what "alt+shift" does on windows

is there a linux equivalent I can use to change the language while writing somehting

Roland Taylor

22:59

hey @Explorer :D!

if you right click on a text input area you should be able to change you language from there I think

If you need more input methods then you will need to install extra options for "ibus" from the software center

Explorer

that doesn't work

Roland Taylor

oh? :(

Explorer

I don't need input methods, I need to switch between the languages I've added while writing

Roland Taylor

oh

let me double check something

Oh, apparently the menu for that doesn't work on every application

But, if you right click and choose languages it should have your installed languages as an option, and the option to install others

(on firefox it has that option to install more, let me "triple check :D")

@Explorer which program are you using btw?

Explorer

libreoffice

Roland Taylor

23:05

ah ha

I'll annotate a screen shot for you then ;)

Explorer

thanks

Roland Taylor

<3

@Explorer ubuntuone.com/p/1Em8

NOOOO0000oooo Banshee froze! Must... get... music...

Explorer

@RolandTaylor nice, thank you

George Edison

@RolandTaylor Still using Banshee...?

Roland Taylor

@Explorer awesome ;)

@GeorgeEdison yesh :D

George Edison

23:14

@RolandTaylor Wow... you have more patience for it than me :)

Roland Taylor

LOTS ;)

I've put up with myself for nearly 24 years!

Explorer

i cannot reply to a removed message :L

Roland Taylor

@Explorer lol I said "is slightly confused that 50 people didn't star that immediately"

Explorer

i read it

Roland Taylor

oh I thought you had missed it :P

Explorer

23:27

one person's star is worth more than 50 people stars , sometimes

gotta go bye

Roland Taylor

@Explorer bye :( (I was afk when you left)

(got called for something)

(and you are right)

sooooooooooooooo....

I managed to um... crash my system

by using the wrong shortcut to drag a window after restarting Unity :)

Roland Taylor

23:52

►

lazyPower

@RolandTaylor it needs more dubstep

Roland Taylor

@lazyPower LOL

I still like it :>

Scoob Serious is tight

I missed that

:(

lazyPower

you didnt miss much

Roland Taylor

lol

kk

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