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Andrew

00:38

Is anyone on?

Can anyone help me find a official/minor for Ubuntu studio 11.10 - 7.10?

Seth

01:15

I don't think it existed then @Andrew.

I take that back, apparently it did exist.

Andrew

They do since I can find voodoo download links all over google

Seth

@Andrew You can get 9.04 here old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/ubuntustudio

Andrew

@Seth Well I can't find any and I don't want to use those voodoo download links because I can't trust how stable they are, do they limit your download speed.

Thanks

Seth

I can't find the rest, top of my head.

Andrew

again thanks

Seth

01:25

np

Andrew

Well should I use those Voodoo download links?

Seth

I don't know. Can you show me?

Andrew

You know my answer for where Where can I get the lastest version of Ubuntu... I am making that for every flover of Ubuntu.... I

Seth

yeah, I meant what voodoo links are you talking about?

Can't give an opinion without seeing the links.

Andrew

one

iso.linuxquestions.org/ubuntu-studio/ubuntu-studio-11.04

4shared.com/file/T-1Z3e5c/…

for examable

Seth

01:32

definitely not 4shared. Oh I hate that site.

Andrew

Me too.

Is linuxquestions stable enough to use

Seth

The download links in your first link are ok, since they lead to cdimage.ubuntu.com, which 404s now ;)

Andrew

Or adf.ly

I hate that too

filewatcher.com/m/…

Seth

@Andrew Some of those look ok.

I think you can generally trust .edu links.

Andrew

Okay

Seth

01:36

but I think it would be better to just say you can't find release x,y,z than point to links you don't know about.

Andrew

196.12.10.6 ...? Why not a url?

@Seth take a look

paste.ubuntu.com/8031717

Good?

Seth

Looks fine

@Andrew URLs just translate to IP addresses anyway.

Andrew

Thanks

Should I do one for netbook remix, or for Core?

Seth

doesn't mean a random IP is trustworthy.

@Andrew netbook remix is long dead.

don't think core is necessary.

Andrew

So don't do any of that.... how about Sever.

Seth

01:47

yep, do server.

Andrew

Okay

I am only doing this for newbies.

All supported Mythbuntu releases can be found at the releases. 9.10 can be found at the old releases page any version else can be found at this minnor.

Good?

Seth

that seems ok

Andrew

Can you make it better?

Seth

what do you mean?

Andrew

Make it make more sence.

like better grammer.

Seth

01:53

don't have time right now.

Andrew

Okay

I think I am going to use filewatcher.com/b/ftp/ftp.ui.edu/iso/ubuntu/cdimage/…

Andrew

02:07

@Seth should I even do metalink for oder version that isn't on the realse page?

or should I use zsync?

old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/ubuntustudio/releases/gutsy/…

Nathan Osman

02:32

<--- is back from SIGGRAPH.

Ask Ubuntu Meta

03:37

0

Q: Is it possible to review/edit questions using VIM?

I suppose this is more of a question; "Does this extension exist on firefox or chrome". When editing long winded posts; I think it would be faster to do formatting with some of vims functionality. Anyone know of any tools I could utilize?

Andrew

Did you know there was a sever edition of EDUbuntu?

Nathan Osman

A server edition?

Andrew

Yep

see

One let me...

old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/edubuntu/gutsy

@NathanOsman see: old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/edubuntu/gutsy

Nathan Osman

03:53

Wow.

Andrew

Didn't know that until I saw it.

@NathanOsman I wounder how it works?

Nathan Osman

No idea. It probably just ships with different packages on the ISO.

Andrew

Yea but you need a GUI to teach.

a 6 year old would have no idea how to use a lui.

Nathan Osman

"Now junior, the 'ls' command prints the contents of the current directory."
"Dad, what's a directory?"
"Uh..."

Andrew

LOL

I can't stand when people called directories folders.

@NathanOsman do you have the same issure as me?

Nathan Osman

04:02

Yeah it bugs me too.

On Windows, they are called folders. On Unix/Linux, they are called directories.

Andrew

No even on Windows they are called directories too... Have you ever hear this command "dir"?

that is basicly the same thing is ls

It is basicly dumb down for people.

Nathan Osman

Well, technically you are correct, but Microsoft even calls them folders in some of the documentation.

They're very inconsistent.

Andrew

Why?

It isn't professional when you do that.

Nathan Osman

Here they call it a folder. Here they call it a directory.

Andrew

IN MS-DOS they are called DIR.

Nathan Osman

04:06

I know, it's frustrating sometimes.

Andrew

When you are programing how do you know what one to use if you are using C++.NET?

@NathanOsman And I can't stand when you right click on the desktop on a emtry space. It has 'Create new folder' or something like that....

Nathan Osman

Very few people use C++.NET. Most use either C# or C++.

Andrew

Most people who use C++ uses the QT framework with it.

Seth

04:24

powershell aliases ls to dir automatically now ;P

Andrew

LOL

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

05:04

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Q: Accessing file from window 8 using virtual box

I am trying to access a folder from windows 8(24GB) in oracle virtual box with ubuntu 14.04 installed. Since the source is huge i am trying to use it directly from windows(mounting from guest system). I searched online, and installed virtualboximage.iso and shared my folder in windows 8 in the...

ubuntu windows virtual-machine connection-sharing

Andrew

05:30

@Seth do you want to see a update?

Andrew

07:55

Is anyone online?

Tell me what you think of?

0

Q: Where do I get all of the versions of Ubuntu + Flavors

This took me several days to do. If it doesn't render right, I made and test it for Firefox version 31 since it comes default with Ubuntu. Please note, that after 14.10 comes out to stable, some of the links will be broken, and I didn't add PPC because it is dead on the desktop. Similarly, it i...

downloads flavors

Ask Ubuntu Meta

10:38

0

Q: AskUbuntu moderator?

I came across this post where the OP @Pops is indicated to be a moderator. ..a little surprised! Are there more moderators than the community elected ones mentioned here: http://askubuntu.com/election? If yes, is there a page that lists them all?

support

Ask Ubuntu Meta

11:21

0

Q: Should I wait before flagging as "Unclear what you're asking"?

Sometimes questions are unclear that what user us asking to understand properly. I had flagged such questions as "Unclear what you're asking" and all deemed helpful also. My question is Should I give time to user to clear it's question by commenting on it? or it is ok to flag that type of questi...

discussion support flagging

blade19899

12:08

What the hell happened to http://iloveubuntu.net/?

Oli

12:55

@blade19899 It's hosted with HostGator. Either a billing issue or they've used too much bandwidth of CPU (HostGator is infamous for cutting people off as soon as they become popular).

blade19899

@Oli iloveubuntu.net has been quiet for months.

I was hoping they would get back to writing!

Just found out i accidentally deleted my Google Analytics code, from my website -_-"

Rinzwind

14:31

This can use some upvotes: askubuntu.com/a/510079/15811

Ask Ubuntu Meta

15:01

0

Q: Should I consider the timeline while accepting an answer?

Assume that, I get an answer to my question that is OK, and i accept it. After a while I get another answer that is seemed to be more OK. Now what should I do? Should I accept the new answer? If I accept what will happen to the earned reputation of the 1st answerer?

discussion answers reputation accepted-answer

Pandya

Presently faced problem: nautilus(GUI) Copy/Cut - Paste not working. Terminal(command-line) operation (with mv and cp) working fine. Is it bug?

Seth

15:54

@blade19899 Don't worry, I block it anyway ;p

@Rinzwind Don't we already have a how to install chrome question?

Tim

17:17

@That umm?

That Brazilian Guy

18:40

How do I show a custom dialog box after a certain period of inactivity?

Tim

19:06

what for?

That Brazilian Guy

The window manager.

I think I am on the right track with xautolock + zenity

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: 'ImportError: No module named _struct' error when managing packages

I'm running elementary OS 0.2 (based on Ubuntu 12.04) and starting today I'm seeing a weird error when attempting to install/upgrade packages. Just now for example I did a: sudo apt-get update which worked fine, followed by a: sudo apt-get upgrade which attempted to upgrade the Numix icon t...

ubuntu apt python dpkg elementary-os

Tim

19:36

so rather than locking, have a message come up?

Andrew

19:51

@Seth are you here.

Seth

20:06

sorta.

Andrew

Is is good

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Q: Where do I get all of the versions of Ubuntu + Flavors

This took me several days to do. If it doesn't render right, I made and test it for Firefox(with zoom 100%) version 31 since it comes default with Ubuntu. Please note, that after 14.10 comes out to stable, some of the links will be broken, and I didn't add PPC because it is dead on the desktop....

release-management

Tim

this doesn't folow the style tho.

Andrew

So

Tim

Blog - Stack Exchange: It’s OK to Ask and Answer Your Own Questions

Jeff Atwood on July 01, 2011

The FAQ has contained one key bit of advice from the very beginning:

It’s also perfectly fine to ask and answer your own question, as long as you pretend you’re on Jeopardy! — phrase it in the form of a question.

So …

if you have a question that you already know the answer to

if you’d like to document it in public so others (including yourself) can find it later

it is OK to ask, and answer, your own question on a relevant Stack Exchange site.

To be crystal clear, it is not merely OK to ask and answer your own question, it is explicitly encouraged. …

Seth

looks fine.

Tim

20:10

it shuld be a question, then answered with the details you have given.

I mean q&a style, not looks style

oh don't worry my bad

Andrew

@Tim there isn't any other way at doing it

Tim

didn;t realise it was contents

sorry

guntbert

One new way to prevent "victims" of the review audit system from complaining? Don't let them see what they based their (presumable) wrong vote on! ( ;-))

Seth

Link @guntbert?

Andrew

hum,nothing is good.

Seth

20:14

nvm, got it.

Mateo

@Seth does this guy have another "good" answer like he claims or was is a link only askubuntu.com/questions/225255/…

guntbert

@Seth askubuntu.com/review/low-quality-posts/306282

Seth

Tim

@Mateo yes, just about to ask...

He doesn't want to delete this one. I have flagged for mod attention.

Mateo

@Seth er, another "use virtural box" ?

Seth

20:16

@Mateo he edited one of his link only ones to be good, apparently he didn't flag it though.

Mateo

oh, so it started as a link only...

Seth

yeah

guntbert

@Seth thx, now I fail to see why that answer was so bad - can you enlighten me?

ah, something like a race condition :-)

no worries from my side :-)

Seth

race condition?

Mateo

that is a little bit better, didn't see that in the deleted answer :/

Tim

20:19

It looks okay but I know nothing about the topic, so I don't know if it is a valid answer.

Mateo

well, at least he removed the "mods deleted my answer" part

guntbert

@Seth, the answer was selected as audit before it was edited - but I got it in its improved form

Seth

as far as I can tell, the answer was never edited. I didn't handle the deletion, so I can't give you any public information on what (or why it) happened (yet).

Mateo

@Seth the new one he edited

Seth

It is worth noting though, @guntbert, that the answer is essentially a duplicate of one that already existed on the question. And (I'm sure I've said this before) the audit system isn't smart. I trust you, I don't care how many audits you fail.

I do appreciate is your continued reviewing, despite the audits bothering you.

guntbert

20:29

@Seth, you trust with good reason, and no they don't bother me as much as they used to - this time it was really for a laugh that I posted the screenshot

Andrew

I think I am going to ask a question with the title of 'Spam contest' and have in the body some like 'The winner get 100 rep, and has the most downvotes.... make sure it is the spammly you can get it, and make sure it make scene'. Good Idea?

Mateo

oooo, stack exchange app widgets!

Seth

@guntbert Ah cool. Yeah, that is pretty confusing. Normally it says the answer was deleted.. guess not this time. That could be considered a bug :)

@Mateo Link? :D

Andrew

is it a good idea?

Mateo

it just updated on my phone, but I saw something about it on meta, hold on

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Q: Request for feedback on widgets for Android app

There have been a few different feature-requests for widgets on Android, and it's something we've been thinking about a lot recently. The next version of the Android app will include a small reputation tracker widget, more info about that below, but before we get started on the more difficult wid...

discussion android-app widgets

Seth

20:35

hm, I don't see any "it's done" comment there.

What widgets do you have @Mateo?

Mateo

the rep widget, which you can select the site. and a hot questions one

Seth

ooh, I wanted a hot questions one. Nice!

Now I just need an android device that can handle the SE app...

Mateo

aw, I found a bug...

I lined up a more than one hot question widgets, but the refresh button only refreshes the last one

Rinzwind

@Seth my small search did not find one

Mateo

well, here it is, wish me luck on meta:

0

A: Request for feedback on widgets for Android app

Noticed it went live in a update. Nice Work! Found a little bug: Since the Hot Questions widget only showed one question, I decide to line up more than one on a page (excuse my webcam picture, is stuck in b&w mode) This works, each one shows a different question; However, pressing each of th...

yo @hbdgaf

hbdgaf

20:51

ohai

So... the file dict in transmissionrpc appears not to be a mutator afaict from a use case. Now I either dive in to the code to make it a mutator or abandon the project since the transmission rpc client doesn't accept it as a change-able attribute.

Mateo

:(

hbdgaf

this should work:
#!/usr/bin/env python3

import transmissionrpc

tc = transmissionrpc.Client('localhost', port=(9091))

torrents = tc.get_torrents()

for torrent in torrents:
  if torrent.status == 'downloading' or torrent.status == 'seeding':
    for item in torrent.files():
      torrent.files()[item]['priority'] = 'high'
  torrent.update()

but it doesn't

unless i'm overlooking something silly

Mateo

what version transmission

hbdgaf

14.04 from main.

hold for a number

Mateo

2.8 somthing?

hbdgaf

20:54

2.82

Tim

0

Q: Yesterday was 23 hours ago

This should possibly be on Stack Exchange. In all the review queues, the times are a bit wrong. I am posting this close enough to 17:00 BST, so 16:00 UTC. So yesterday was 16 hours ago. I took this screenshot at 15:52 UTC. In my history, I have 2 reviews, done today at 14:00 and 12:00. (2014-0...

feature-request bug

Should I post on the main meta?

Mateo

launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+package/python3-transmissionrpc hm, they have a python 3 version, is that the same as what you are importing @hbdgaf

hbdgaf

@Mateo Yes

At least I think so. I'll try it out.

@Tim I wouldn't. The response will be "it's not compute cost effective to implement that definition of yesterday"

Tim

@hbdgaf okay. Just bugs my ocd... ;-)

hbdgaf

they don't use midnight at all in the yesterday thought... and refreshes of votes are based on UTC 0. so, it would be a long argument that resolved in "Nope."

Mateo

21:01

they could change the wording to "A day ago" or something similar, "The other day", so it might be better understood as a literal 24 hours

hbdgaf

@Mateo that might work

Tim

oh yeah, i forgot about others on non UTC... England here so I'm pretty close (+1 BST)

That would properly mess things up i giess..

hbdgaf

or we could list our employment times on our resumes in epoch time (i've done that)

Tim

@mateo, that would make more sense

Do you go for nice round times, or annoy people with "14 mins + 17 secs past"?

Mateo

@hbdgaf quick google hit, sounded like something to me: forum.transmissionbt.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=12134

hbdgaf

21:08

well that reads as interesting. might be do-able and just not implemented. i'll give it a medium dive and omit the deep dive for now.

In other news...

phishing. if it seems to good to be true, it probably is

Bernmeister

@Seth @Luis From yesterday's discussion about re-tagging: I got a reply via email from the StackExchage mods. Got a nice apology and advice: ask Ubuntu meta!!!

Seth

@Bernmeister Great! I knew you'd get a reply, but sometimes it can take time :)

@guntbert Ok, asked around. The guy was a spammer injecting links into answers that looked ok.

Bernmeister

@Seth Restored my confidence (and both, as did yourself and @Luis). Did you see the URLs for the posts/answers I found (I posted in the other room)?

Seth

So that's why it was deleted.

@Bernmeister Yes I did. Did you want a comment on them?

guntbert

@Seth thx for taking the trouble

Bernmeister

21:23

@Seth Frankly, not quite sure where I should go from here (in terms of re-tagging). Those answers simply restated the problem: re-tagging old posts makes them appear at the top of the front page and that it might annoy some users! One answer/comment was to simply ignore old posts as they'll quickly filter down. Another answer was that StackExchange likely won't implement the feather to stop this from happening.

@Seth So I haven't as yet found a definitive answer to link to in the event I re-tag an old post and someone is annoyed by that.

@Seth feather == feature!

Mateo

isn't that a mod privilige, doing an edit that doesn't pop it to the front?

Tim

21:41

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Q: Could anything tagged with "installation" not appear on the front page

As you may know, we are trying to remove all of the installation tags. However, when I edit a whole load of posts (even just 4 or 5) it ruins the look of the front page - it is all old posts last modified by Tim: Could we have it so that edits that remove the tag installation don't show on th...

discussion feature-request

I did suggest it for only installation, but it could cause abuse in some ways...

Bernmeister

@Mateo No idea - from reading the questions/answers I found I believe it's default behaviour for StackExchange.

@Tim Ironically I too was re-tagging 'installation' ... but manually :-)

Tim

well I retag manually too, sort of. I copy seth's data thing output into a text file, then use a python script and an actionaz script to open them for editing.

Mateo

21:57

Wow, 9000 left

Seth

@Bernmeister Honestly, there isn't anything you can link to.

Retagging tons of things at once, even if the tag is deprecated, is something that is just "tolerated" because there is no other way about it.

Especially as a sub 2k user, because people have to review your edits.

My advice if you want to continue is the same as I gave Tim. Target questions with just installation and try not to do too many at once, or they'll start getting rejected, most likely.

Bernmeister

@Seth Yeah, I've come to the same conclusion. Seeing that @Tim is hot on the case, I'm happy to defer to him :-)

Tim

50 about to go through!

bum, edit limit...

Tim

22:25

that's enough for tonight...

Bernmeister

@Tim Job well done!

Tim

that took longer than i thought...

phew

i kept on getting the "You can perform this action again in 13 seconds"

Virusboy

23:51

moo

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