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Mateo

00:23

@mojo706 it's blue :)

hey @jrg how is everything?

Nathan Osman

thinkradiant.com/radiant-blog-46083

> Fortunately for Bark and Radiant clients, we tend to steer clear of any open-source software, including OpenSSL.

Right...

Mateo

@NathanOsman It's funny that they are using the angry symbol for a logo...

Mateo

01:02

@NathanOsman hm, so facebook plugin for the comments...

jrg

@Mateo we're doing fine...

we = the penguin team

how are you?

Jorge Castro

anyone have a good netmask question to link to?

0

A: What are my network and computer IP addresses?

Click on the network icon in the top left of your screen: And then select Connection Information, you will see a window with all the information you need:

I think he wants something like 192.168.0.0/24, but I suck at networking

Mateo

@jrg not bad

jrg

@JorgeCastro unclear question, even as a amateur network tech.

Mateo

01:21

I'm thinking about trying to get a virtual server from digital ocean, anyone tried them?

Braiam

Apr 5 at 20:09, by Nathan Osman

Proudly powered by Digital Ocean and Juju!

Mateo

ah!

jrg

notbad.png

Braiam

a penguin worth more than thousand word

terdon

What can we do with these two?

1

Q: Middle mouse button will not paste

I have a Logitech M560 mouse, but I do not know how to map the middle button to pasting, as is default in my other mouse. I ran 'xev' and clicked the middle button in the white box. The output includes 'button 1'. So, I want to map button 1 to the 'paste selection' as clicking the right and lef...

mouse

5

Q: How to fix my middle mouse button being recognized as left mouse button?

I've updated my system to 10.10 and since then my "middle mouse button" (on my laptop, under touchpad) is recognized as my "left mouse button". If i open xev, i can see that both, my "left and middle mouse button" are being referred to as "button 1". Can anybody help me to fix this problem and ...

10.10 mouse touchpad mouse-scroll

I'm pretty sure the answer to the 2nd will solve the 1st one's issue but the 2nd was asked by a user who's no longer around so it will never be accepted.

Braiam

01:26

how was it @terdon?

terdon

@Braiam You mean the questions?

Mateo

@NathanOsman want a referral bonus for Digital Ocean? I'm thinking of trying it.

Braiam

@terdon no, the travel

terdon

@Braiam Ah :) Fine, I'm at my parents' place in Greece now

Braiam

meh, left a comment @terdon

terdon

01:29

I was wondering whether those two Qs could be merged. That way, the OP of the second could accept the answer on the first and everyone is happy.

@Braiam Yeah, I saw, ^^^

Braiam

:15023347 I'm a cat :P

also is a touchpad ;)

Mateo

input-devices ?

Braiam

@Mateo that one seem even more unhelpful

Mateo

;)

Braiam

we-need-better-tags

boo...

meta tags doesn't have special colour

Mateo

01:37

huh, doesn't work here

Braiam

in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, 14 secs ago, by Braiam

status-closed

only MSE

Mateo

in Sandbox on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, 1 min ago, by Mateo

status-declined

Braiam

is one of the chat easter eggs

Mateo

hm, not as effective if I need to link it :p

Braiam

this is incredible

terdon

01:39

@Braiam Dunno man, there are many mouse questions that one is clearly about a mouse (not a touchpad) and tagging it as mouse makes sense. I really don't want to get into an edit war with you, just think about it.

Braiam

@terdon but we have a touchpad already, so, it doesn't make sense to use mouse for things about a touchpad or any pointing device

I haven't seen a mouse question were the tag stand of its own

terdon

> I have a Logitech M560 mouse, but I do not know how to map the middle button to pasting

No touchpads involved whatsoever.

Mateo

yeah, I agree with terdon on this one, input-devices is too generic, and you woudn't use touchpad for a mouse question...

Braiam

reading the other question askubuntu.com/q/6404/169736

Mateo

just as long as it is not "I am using my mouse to open a launcher" aka it is about the setup of the device not just the simple use of it

Avinash Raj

01:42

For me Ubuntu 14.04 will be downloaded within 1 hour.

Braiam

@terdon ok, mouse, fine, but find me a question were the tag can stand on it's own

Mateo

2

Q: Ubuntu 12.10 Jerky mouse movments

As the Title indicates I have some problem with delicate movement of the mouse in Ubuntu 12.10 fresh installation. The jerkiness is shown more at small and slow movements when the mouse will move a 2 millimeters to any random positions every 5 centimeters of movements. my mouse is a Microsoft S...

unity 12.10 hardware mouse

hardware tag?

terdon

@Braiam You could make a case for mouse being a meta tag, yeah. I don't think I'd agree but you could certainly make a case. Since the tag is actively used though, and since it consequently helps bring in relevant Qs (which is how I found the one that solves it which you gave the OP) I think it should be there.

Braiam

@terdon I haven't mentioned "meta tag" but "tag that can stand as only tag on the question", please don't mix terms ;)

meta tags means something totally different

Mateo

@Braiam we all know where you are going with it ;)

Braiam

01:46

@Mateo prevention is the best course of action

terdon

This is funny, we're all walking on egg shells, trying to avoid escalation :)

Mateo

at this point I think mouse is a "as good as it's going to get" tag, there are some good uses, and some bad ones

Braiam

starts reading again as it was his intention

Mateo

I can't see merging it to a more generic, or advocate not using at all

er, so how about this : askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/hp-touchpad

Braiam

blame david6 askubuntu.com/revisions/110984/5

Mateo

01:55

and why isn't trackpad synonymous with touchpad?

anyone have 5 in that category to suggest?

Braiam

@Mateo askubuntu.com/tags/trackpad/topusers askubuntu.com/tags/touchpad/topusers

somehow I have 3 in touchpad... I really don't know why

btw, I don't see anyone actually answering either tag

terdon

Huh, apparently I have 9 in touchpad.

Braiam

@terdon ¬_¬

Mateo

@Braiam a lot have to do with a certain company says that they have drivers for linux but aren't letting normal people use them...

terdon

OK, that means I can make trackpad a synonym to touchpad right?

Braiam

01:59

@terdon synonym have always been a black box for me :(

@terdon btw, give me thanks :P askubuntu.com/posts/438179/revisions

Mateo

@terdon give it a shot, I can't remember if you need it in both, or just the one

terdon

@Braiam lol, I'm not touching that guy or his posts again.

@Mateo I will, everyone agrees on trackpad being a synonym to touchpad rather than the other way around right?

Braiam

terdon

And I think you only need 5 in one, don't remember if it's target or source

Braiam

^ is that legit?

@terdon don't worry, we still have to vote it D:

terdon

02:02

@Braiam Think not

@Braiam And good point

Mateo

yeah, both are the same, so I think touch is the more used

terdon

@Mateo So do I but I'm not sure if it's just regional.

Anyway, synonym proposed

Braiam

go here askubuntu.com/tags/synonyms?filter=suggested&tab=newest

Avinash Raj

What can i do with the questions with 3 close votes(reason development version)?

Braiam

btw, the xorg <- xserver needs to be nucked

@AvinashRaj I'm sure is because is a bug, not because is 14.04

terdon

02:05

@Braiam Yeah, AFAIK they are different beasts.

Huh! Check this out:

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Q: I'm seeing stars! (I can see who starred a message and so can you)

So I was making a chatbot in Ruby for SE chat, and I discovered that I could find out the starrer of a message. I'm pretty sure stars, like votes, are supposed to be anonymous. Although this knowledge would help for cases of star trolls like this. Here's the specific slice of code that do...

support bug chat chat-stars

Braiam

LATE! I saw it in The Tavern :P

@terdon I think you can vote askubuntu.com/tags/xorg/synonyms

terdon

@Braiam Now I'm wondering again... X-org is the X server on Ubuntu so it might make sense to have them as synonyms here after all.

Everything that's tagged xserver here is 99% sure to be about Xorg

Mateo

ah man: askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/trackball that would be cool, what the one question is asking...

wouldn't that just be an upside-down mouse?

Braiam

@Mateo I'm amused that it didn't got deleted

terdon

@Mateo @Braiam do we keep the xserver->xorg synonym or not?

(sorry for the 3ple ping)

Mateo

02:11

@Braiam well it's gone now

or did you just take the tag off...

the one trackball question lost to the void forever!

Braiam

@Mateo I meant the question

@terdon what's "mir"?

terdon

@Braiam A question that should be tagged xserver. True, very true.

On U&L I would not hesitate to separate them with extreme prejudice. Here, not so sure.

How many xserver questions do we have that are not about xorg?

Braiam

also, Ubuntu has different xserver like xephyr and xfbdev

@terdon want tomorrow give it a run? ;)

terdon

Yeah, and the xserver tag seems to be used quite correctly for general xserver stuff. Yes, it's actually about xorg, but perhaps no need to tag it that way.

Braiam

30 mins answering xserver questions?

terdon

02:15

shudder

OK, sod it, downvoted the synonym. It's dead now.

Braiam

yay!

Nathan Osman

@mateo: wow - thank you.

digitalocean.com/?refcode=a5d0de647649

^--- referral code

Avinash Raj

@terdon what's the regex to match exactly one character?

terdon

@AvinashRaj .

Avinash Raj

for example if a line consists of many a's. What's the regex to match only first a?

Nathan Osman

02:26

That will match everything but a newline.

terdon

@NathanOsman exactly one character though :)

@AvinashRaj depends on the tool. Usually simply a

Nathan Osman

@Avinash: just use a literal "a".

terdon

for example: echo aaaaaaaaaaaa | sed 's/a/a /'

$ echo aaaaaaaaaaaa | sed 's/a/a /'
a aaaaaaaaaaa

Mateo

@NathanOsman cool, I'll save that, might be a few days before I sit down and do it

Braiam

@terdon that match the first "a", if he needs to match any a he should use /g

terdon

02:30

4 mins ago, by Avinash Raj

for example if a line consists of many a's. What's the regex to match only first a?

Avinash Raj

thanks..

terdon

You're welcome.

Avinash Raj

is that possible to provide condition on sed?

terdon

What kind of condition?

Avinash Raj

like in awk we put the condition in form of regex. awk '$1=="blahblah" { print 0}'

terdon

02:33

In sed too, if I remember correctly

$ echo -e "aaa\nbaa\ncaa" | sed '/b/{s/a/A/}'
aaa
bAa
caa

That means: if the line matches b, replace the 1st a with A

Personally, if I find myself using conditionals in sed, I start thinking that I'm using the wrong tool.

That's just me though.

Avinash Raj

what in case of 2nd a

like this

echo -e "aaa\nbaa\ncaa" | sed '/b/{s/.a/A/}'

xiaodongjie

Hey everybody.

terdon

@AvinashRaj Yeah, but that will delete the 1st a

Avinash Raj

yep

xiaodongjie

What is the best Remote desktop client?

grdesktop is stopped since 2012.

Braiam

02:39

@xiaodongjie xvnc?

depends on your backend

xiaodongjie

@Braiam Oh, as grdesktop, using RSP protocol client.

Braiam

can this get another delete vote askubuntu.com/q/194059/169736

this too askubuntu.com/q/7840/169736

Avinash Raj

done @Braiam

Braiam

this will need several but anyway, lets the votes pile up askubuntu.com/q/1437/169736

this one too askubuntu.com/q/14592/169736

Avinash Raj

@Braiam i think most of the del votes on bad questions are thrown by you and Eric . Why other 10kers failed to do that?

Braiam

02:46

@AvinashRaj ask them ;)

xiaodongjie

@Braiam I think xvnc is not RDP.

Braiam

@xiaodongjie RDP smells like a windows protocol, so I have no idea

Avinash Raj

dupe askubuntu.com/questions/449399/…

Braiam

03:05

10

Q: Site age and the number of visits are incorrect

According to Stackexchange.com, this site is 2013 years old, but sadly has 0 visits/day.

bug stackexchange.com site-stats

xiaodongjie

How to i contact mterry?

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

03:26

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Q: Grub error 15 (file not found)

I'm trying to fix a problem with a new installation. I'm running this existing distro (Ubuntu) from /dev/sdb with a new OS, Gentoo, installed on /dev/sda. I'm glad I took the trouble of setting these up on different disks because I can't boot into the new OS. All I get is grub error 15 "File not ...

ubuntu gentoo grub-legacy

Minato Namikaze

04:02

TheRookierLearner

04:17

Are there any new solutions to this question? askubuntu.com/questions/28675/…

Say using "xinput"?

skullpatrol

06:11

hi @xiaodongjie

Patil Aditya

@Oli and other mods please reply to my message.

xiaodongjie

06:41

Hi

grdesktop project is dead?

cshubhamrao

07:16

Unclear what is being asked:
http://askubuntu.com/questions/449506/

Awal Garg

07:49

Going with the Gnome Version

Hey, Ubuntu 14.04 Released

ubuntugnome.org/ubuntu-gnome-14-04-lts-is-released

Cheers to all

don.joey

09:01

some people just keep on amazing me: meta.askubuntu.com/questions/8921/…

Ask Ubuntu Meta

0

Q: Are you serious? Upvotes from your fake accounts?

Here's a nice quote I found. Emphasis is mine. In case you don't use this piece of kit you're still welcome to join the party as I will award the bounty, answer flag plus plenty of upvotes from all of my fake accounts to the person who gives me the suggestion that got me closest to solving th...

discussion

Rinzwind

@don.joey LOL LOL LOL

don.joey

:D

Gekke duitsers

Rinzwind

right

some mod will make toast of him

let's hope its Oli that shows up 1st >:)

don.joey

:d:d

that would be fun. looking at his blog, he does not seem like someone who actually has duplicate accounts, though.

Avinash Raj

09:16

What an approach...

> In case you don't use this piece of kit you're still welcome to join the party as I will award the bounty, answer flag plus plenty of upvotes from all of my fake accounts to the person who gives me the suggestion that got me closest to solving the problem! :)

@don.joey you already posted this on meta.

I didn't see tat.

don.joey

@AvinashRaj :)

Rinzwind

09:39

@don.joey web-e caved in by your comment :=D

William Lawn Stewart

Hmm, gonna have fun upgrading to 14.04 when my holiday is over

Rinzwind

upgrading is not fun. it is boring. :-P

William Lawn Stewart

My boss doesn't see the point in the upgrade, so in order to it I'll need to do a hot clone of the server onto the retired server, so I have a standby/test machine

Rinzwind

same here. check this ->
cat /etc/lsb-release
DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
DISTRIB_RELEASE=6.06
DISTRIB_CODENAME=dapper
DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 6.06.2 LTS"

Takkat

@Rinzwind my upgrade took 1 minute yesterday... \o/

William Lawn Stewart

09:44

I managed to rsync it into a VM, but then the management software it runs had a meltdown over the active NIC being eth2

...ouch

Rinzwind

@Takkat my system was up to date on release :(

Takkat

I only had to upgrade few missing packages from 14.04. Beta2

<-- always upgrades 1-2 days before or 1-2 weeks after release

William Lawn Stewart

I have a fairly compelling argument for the boss though, the server's running an old version of Zentyal, so it is unsupported and the new version happens to have high availability, which management desperately want

Although HA is going to be fairly silly given that both servers run off the same UPS

I do have hopes that the upgrade on the client machines will fix a somewhat wierd Lubuntu bug which has been annoying users for some time

Rinzwind

@takkat you are the wubi expert of the 2 of us? >:-D

William Lawn Stewart

I haven't been able to replicate it, but at least one employee every day has their mouse buttons stop working, until they either restart or alt+f4 all open windows

Takkat

09:50

@Rinzwind Wubi? What is that? I never ever touched it after I heard of so many incidents. ;)

Avinash Raj

@Rinzwind i think our wubi expert is bcbc

Rinzwind

close: askubuntu.com/questions/449573/…

Avinash Raj

just now installed 14.04, struggling with the first sudo apt-get update command for half-an-hour.

Takkat

> reasons that are mine

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: what are the 3 flavours in ubuntu 14.04 LTS

i can found these 3 flavours in ubuntu download page.but previously we can found only 32 and 64 bit.so can anybody explain about each 64-bit 32-bit (for machines with less than 2GB RAM) 64-bit Mac (AMD64) Note:I have i5-4gb system.

ubuntu

Takkat

09:55

@AvinashRaj try with a mirror on a timezone where people sleep now...?

Rinzwind

@Takkat and counterd that >:)

Avinash Raj

superb @Takkat. I'm from India, mirror from which location did i have to choose?

Takkat

it's so often: Please help me to achieve this (but what it is I want I keep secret).

@AvinashRaj no idea, really... can we still chose a "best" mirror from settings? We used to some releases ago but I haven't done this recently.

Avinash Raj

thanks :-)

Takkat

you may try to start with the main server.

but after a release we generally have heavy load on all of them. :/

Rinzwind

10:00

see the drop down here:

ubuntu.com/download/desktop

it says "32 bit for less than 2 Gb"

should that not be 4GB?

don.joey

@Rinzwind not sure I understand "web-e caved in by your comment :=D "

Rinzwind

@don.joey he deleted his answer with 3 upvotes on the wubi q >:)

don.joey

aah :) that's a good one

Takkat

@Rinzwind it shold say 32-bit for an old 32-bit CPU.

Rinzwind

@don.joey LOL AGAIN: askubuntu.com/questions/449589/…

@takkat did you see the meta post from don.joey? :D

Takkat

10:05

tsk

don.joey

@Rinzwind "a bit of backstory" :D

Takkat

my rep farm is working for you... :/

Rinzwind

hmmm who is good with counting?

How many non-lt's are there between lts's?

3?

Takkat

.10 + .04 + .10 = 3

Rinzwind

it'll get closed but could not resist: askubuntu.com/questions/449589/…

argh -> askubuntu.com/questions/449591/which-processor-version

(is related to askubuntu.com/questions/449573/… )

don.joey

10:12

@Rinzwind that's a valid answer

Rinzwind

@don.joey user is fishing :P correct method is to install 14.04 >:D

Takkat

72 kB/s download speed from de mirror for a tiny dist-upgrade.

People in Germany appear to make use of the bank holiday and the poor weather to upgrade their Ubuntu

Rinzwind

my system at home is providing torrents :=)

1 of them just ran over 50Gb upload

ha! @don.joey askubuntu.com/questions/449599/where-to-find-a-wubi-download dupe! :D

Takkat

my desktop still is on 12.04 (and it will be for a while)

don.joey

@Rinzwind I am amazed so many people use wubi

Takkat

10:21

Those people either use Wubi or they delete all their partitions on installing... Wubi appears to be the better option to them.

Avinash Raj

So when i type in sudo nautilus I get this error :@:Nautilus-Share-Message: Called "net usershare info" but it failed: 'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare: cannot open usershare directory /var/lib/samba/usershares. Error No such file or directory Please ask your system administrator to enable user sharing. — Tom777 2 mins ago

Rinzwind

@don.joey those are the same that complain about BSODs in windows >:D

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: Where is my tablet memory hardware mounted on laptop?

I connected my Asus fonepad7 tablet to my laptop via usb. My laptop automatically detects it & opens. But I'm unable to find where the memory card of my tablet mounted on laptop. Just see below, when I put cursor on the tablet device, it shows "mtp://[usb:002,003]/" As I'm unable to find the m...

ubuntu android automounting

Avinash Raj

> In case you need further information (config files, command output, credit card numbers, ...) I will provide it!

credit card numbers..

Rinzwind

@AvinashRaj we could ask hin to pay us all 100 dollars each to keep the q open?

Takkat

10:29

O.o - they talk about Ubuntu on TV here...

Avinash Raj

lol

this shows, how important that question for him.

@terdon Good Morning :-)

Am i correct?

Rinzwind

lunch time @Takkat @don.joey :=)

Aditya

@Rinzwind What do you suggest about this question? To reopen and then close as dupe of this one?

Rinzwind

@Aditya I voted to keep it closed

Aditya

Okay, then I would just skip that item...

Avinash Raj

10:42

del askubuntu.com/a/449611/202806

Aditya

@AvinashRaj Running Ubuntu 14.04?

Avinash Raj

Yep. @Aditya

Aditya

@AvinashRaj Can you run nautilus as root?

terdon

@AvinashRaj Hi

Aditya

aditya@aditya-desktop:~$ sudo -i
root@aditya-desktop:~# nautilus

Does it crash for you as well?

Avinash Raj

10:54

yep..

@Aditya

core dumped error.

but

sudo nautilus

works.

Aditya

But we shouldn't use sudo for graphical apps

Nautilus crashes when starting as root on Ubuntu 14.04

Nautilus crashes everytime I try to invoke it as root. Following are the Error messages that I get in terminal: aditya@aditya-desktop:~$ sudo -i root@aditya-desktop:~# nautilus (nautilus:6319): Gtk-WARNING **: Failed to register client: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files (nautilus:6319): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: invalid cast from 'GtkMessageDialog' to 'NautilusWindow' ** ERROR:nautilus-window.c:2116:nautilus_window_get_slots: assertion failed: (NAUTILUS_IS_WINDOW (window)) Aborted (core dumped) I am using a fresh install of Ubuntu 14.04. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 14.04 Package: nautilus 1:3.10.1-0ubuntu8 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.13.0-24.46-generic 3.13.9 Uname: Linux 3.13.0-24-generic i686 ApportVersion: 2.14.1-0ubuntu3 Architecture: i386 Date: Fri Apr 18 04:43:43 2014 GsettingsChanges: InstallationDate: Installed on 2014-04-17 (0 days ago) InstallationMedia: This …

nautilus (Ubuntu)

Undecided / New

Avinash Raj

you already fiiled a bug report ah?

Aditya

@AvinashRaj ^^ I had filed the bug... You might mark it stating it affects you as well

Avinash Raj

sure

@Aditya try

gksu nautilus

also

Aditya

gksu doesn't come installed by default in Ubuntu now

I guess it stopped on or after 13.04

Avinash Raj

10:57

install and try

Aditya

okay.. would give that a try... right now I'm on Windows

Avinash Raj

"You might mark it stating it affects you as well"

how??

Aditya

Do you have a launchpad a/c

Avinash Raj

yep

Aditya

login and then go to that bug-page

Avinash Raj

10:59

what can i do?

I got it working Thanks man I love you (no homo) :D — Tom777 8 mins ago

Aditya

And click on "This bug affects you."

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