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Seth

00:03

Anyone find this unclear?

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Q: Allocating the main memory in Ubuntu 12.04

Segmentation or Paging scheme that ubuntu 12.04 use to allocate the main memory? Does it use both of it? How? If it doesn't use both scheme, so what the scheme that should be use? why?

Braiam

@Seth I would migrate it to UL

if he didn't got answer here

Seth

Why?

Mateo

00:25

@NathanOsman that is amazing-ly something.

2 hours later…

Danatela

02:03

Hi everybody

Nathan Osman

02:14

o/

Danatela

02:33

Can we look at audit results?

Andrew

02:50

Lol

LOL Powerhell insaid of Power Shell

Danatela

03:13

yeah the Powerhell

Andrew

Did you watch it?

@Danatela Did you watch it, or watching it?

Danatela

watched

Andrew

What do you think of it?

Seth

@Danatela no not really. Thinking of a specific one? I might be able to pull it up.

Danatela

@Seth thanks but specific one means it would be my own, so… I just failed one

Seth

03:26

So do you want to look at it or? Of course I'm not going to pull someone else's up :-P

Danatela

OK show me it

Seth

@Danatela askubuntu.com/review/first-posts/245976

Not a particular good answer, but that question was simple :-/

Danatela

yep I just wanted to ask author to expand his answer

Seth

Yeah good idea

Danatela

03:42

@Andrew cool video

Andrew

@Danatela it is soo true thou

Danatela

but it loads too quick :P

I mean, the Crap OS)

I saw such performance with 13.04 when installed it on RAID0 made of 2 SSD

It loaded in 2s!

Seth

Anything on an SSD will be quick.

2 hours later…

Danatela

05:20

@Seth Win8 from the same array manages to boot in 10s

Nathan Osman

05:32

I used to have Windows 8 on an SSD and it would boot in about 8 seconds. I moved it to a mechanical drive and it takes nearly a minute, if not longer.

Danatela

05:45

@NathanOsman actually it slowly loads the user profile when it comes to mechanical HDD

Minato Namikaze

06:04

@NathanOsman Mines a HDD, takes like 30 seconds :P

Stock is faster

Danatela

06:22

@NathanOsman do you have large files in Documents or Videos? This may be the problem

Nathan Osman

06:43

I don't have really large files, no.

Kalamalka Kid

07:07

anyone here know anything about BIOS? I accidentally set the system to default, and now im getting the "disk boot failure insert system disk" error.

Danatela

that means you have selected wrong disk

Kalamalka Kid

i cant seem to change the primary master or slave

Danatela

try to change boot order

Kalamalka Kid

i tired that too. enabling only hard drive, and disabling CD rom and removable.

it shows the CD drive as the primary master. is that normal?

Danatela

it doesn't mean anymore to care about master/slave

hmm

Kalamalka Kid

07:11

ok so primary slave selection doesnt matter then ?

Danatela

not normal

either secondary master or primary slave should be normal

Kalamalka Kid

what is not normal? sorry im confused

Danatela

oops

primary slave is normal

Kalamalka Kid

ok so what do i need to do here?

why is the machine giving me this error

?

Danatela

boot from livecd and post us Boot-Repair log

Kalamalka Kid

07:13

how do i get the boot repair log?

Danatela

just google boot repair

first link has good explanation

Kalamalka Kid

i cant even get the machine to boot off cd

same error: disk boot failure insert system disk

Danatela

is it UEFI?

Kalamalka Kid

ok i resolved tha tissue by setting teh CD to the primary master

could you send me the boot repair link

Danatela

help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair‎

Kalamalka Kid

07:19

im not sure which search terms you used for "boot repair", and would not know if i got the same results as you did without it.

ty

Danatela

OK

Kalamalka Kid

i guess there isnt an easier way to do this.

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: How to stop many process like unicorn and sidekiq using single command in certain environment

I am using Ubuntu 12.04. I remotely access remotely EC2 instance, i will stop and start unicorn and sidekiq by following commands cap development unicorn:start cap development unicorn:stop cap development sidekiq:start cap development sidekiq:stop how can i do this using single command to ...

ubuntu amazon-ec2

Danatela

@KalamalkaKid how is it going?

Kalamalka Kid

i was able to boot the machine from a boot menu using F8 and choosing the proper drive, but I seem to be unable to change the primary master in BIOS

i can see what the selection is, but cant seem to change it. The only settings are AUTO and MANUAL

Danatela

07:34

what BIOS do you have? Award, AMI?

Kalamalka Kid

phoenix

Venki

@Danatela Hi !! Yesterday's issue got solved!! See here askubuntu.com/questions/445923/…

Danatela

@Venki glad that it has such simple solution

Venki

:) BTW, I posted this question here...

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Q: Is it fine to comment to an answerer or asker to remove his/her answer or question?

Suppose I see a bad question or a bad answer. Instead of outrightly flagging it or down voting it, is it fine to comment in the question or answer to the asker or answerer to remove it? I ask this because sometimes the asker or answerer might have a tiny reputation but at the same time might have...

But I am a bit confused if my description is clear. can you read it and give suggestions for edit ?

Danatela

just added the comment

Venki

07:47

Yeah I saw. THanks. AS i have said in the comment...why not post it as an answer?

Danatela

I'm thinking about it

Venki

Hmm..

Danatela

I have no much experience in writing meta answers however

Venki

practice maketh a man perfect!! :-D

Ask Ubuntu Meta

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Q: Is it fine to comment to an answerer or asker to remove his/her answer or question?

Suppose I see a bad question or a bad answer. Instead of outrightly flagging it or down voting it, is it fine to comment in the question or answer to the asker or answerer to remove it? I ask this because sometimes the asker or answerer might have a tiny reputation but at the same time might have...

Venki

08:10

@Danatela Thanks! :)

Danatela

But we don't remove questions, we just close them

the question may be removed if it's spam or offending

Venki

ok .

If you feel the question is to be edited you are welcome to :)

Danatela

OK

@Venki you will have the chance to interact with users when you'll have 500 rep

Venki

Hmm..

You said about association bonus that day right? I got it yesterday..!! :)

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

08:33

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Q: Are the major, minor number unique

Are the major, minor number Unique? Do we have any citations and reference to it? NAME MAJ:MIN RM SIZE RO MOUNTPOINT sda 8:0 0 465.8G 0 ├─sda1 8:1 0 298.2M 0 ├─sda2 8:2 0 3G 0 ├─sda3 8:3 0 458.7G 0 / ├─sda4 8:4 0 1K 0 └─sda5 8:5 0 3.8G 0 ...

Danatela

yes I see

That was the great day when I get my association bonus ;)

now you can enter any SE site and have +100 bonus

Venki

@Danatela Ya. I already had one with SE physics and got +100 rep there too!

This question..

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Q: Not able to login with LightDM

I am using Ubuntu 13.10 with Unity desktop. Unfortunately I am not able to log into my desktop. After entering correct password it keeps looping back to login. Could you please help me to sort out this problem? I need help because I have important data in my laptop and I don't want to reinstall ...

unity 13.10 login lightdm

Have an eye out for it..It may be a dupe..But I have requested the asker for more info...

Danatela

09:00

@Oli @Seth can you communicate with ConnorJ? I just wanna him to know that I've set bounty for his question and it soon expires. Just not to reward wrong person

fossfreedom

@Danatela Communications via email are for "serious moderation purposes" - this doesnt really fall into that category

Danatela

@fossfreedom then what I should do with my bounty? Should I grace the best answer?

fossfreedom

not alot you can do - just leave it be - if a valid answer comes that garners 2 votes or more then they'll get half the bounty.

Danatela

OK

Minato Namikaze

Dammit touch input -_-

Clicked the wrong review option

Danatela

09:12

and if it will be accepted?

fossfreedom

you dont need to get an accepted answer to be awarded a bounty. 2 or more votes allow you to get half the bounty automatically after the grace period

Danatela

thanks

and if it will be accepted I should give the full bounty, just realized =)

fossfreedom

if the OP comes back and accepts the answer, the answerer will automatically get the bounty - you dont need to do it

Danatela

ah nice

does anyone know how to determine hosts available in local network?

fossfreedom

this one? askubuntu.com/questions/82480/…

Danatela

09:21

@fossfreedom thanks!

just the one I need

fossfreedom

remember to vote up!

Rinzwind

09:54

@fossfreedom is recruiting allowed on au?

fossfreedom

@Rinzwind ??? expand what you mean

Rinzwind

-1

Q: is there a developer willing to dev a lacking printer driver?

we are ready and willing to dump windows in our office and move to Zorin installations, that are very friendly for windows users. We tested on one laptop, and works great! Only, we have a Multifunction printer scanner, the OKI ES 4180 MFP, that lacks an appropriate driver for Linux: we can see it...

application-development

:=)

so much wrong there _O-

fossfreedom

:)

Rinzwind

oh you did not expect that question did you? :D

fossfreedom

I saw a nice link from braiam yesterday in chat where developers can get monetary bounties for doing opensource stuff. Let me dig it out.

Rinzwind

09:58

I know

fosscoders ?

fossfreedom

if that's the name of it - yeah - drop a comment and say go and bounty it via that website

Rinzwind

dunno cant find it _o-

google fails me :(

fossfreedom

fossfactory.org - thats the link

Rinzwind

O

URL THIEF!

Minato Namikaze

10:15

Are you still there, server? It's me, Margaret.

10

Finally, an explanation from xkcd

Avinash Raj

10:32

somebody close askubuntu.com/questions/446372/… as dupe of askubuntu.com/questions/182137/…

Dan

is possible to cancel a flag?

Rinzwind

nope

well fossy can :=)

Avinash Raj

it's possible to retract a close vote but it's not possible to retract flags.

Rinzwind

if you feed him some intelligent gpl software code he might be willing to cancel a flag >:)

Avinash Raj

Rinz, too fast.

fossfreedom

10:37

well ... I can just "accept but with no further action" -

Dan

I had flagged this question as a dupe. But reading it again, I don't think it is anymore.

Avinash Raj

Delete your comment.

So that it would be hidden from the eyes of close voters.

Patil Aditya

11:00

Do we have startup applications in xubuntu?

fossfreedom

11:10

@PatilAditya yes - askubuntu.com/questions/77066/modify-xfce-startup-applications

Patil Aditya

Thanks.

Avinash Raj

close this askubuntu.com/questions/446412/…

@foss ^^

fossfreedom

11:30

@Danatela - your bounty OP has come back!

Venki

Excuse me..you guys must check out this question askubuntu.com/questions/442288/not-able-to-login-with-lightdm ...it might be a dupe...but i have asked the asker for more hardware details...

@AvinashRaj Hi! I think we must add an article about installing fglrx drivers and troubleshooting potential problems with it somewhere...I feel there are toooo many questions about it... I myself have answered 7 questions based on that topic alone !!

Avinash Raj

11:46

Good.

is that all the solutions are same?

Venki

Almost... just visit my profile and see my answers..you will know..

So..is there a way to add an article about it somewhere in Ubuntu or AU?

fossfreedom

@Venki - create a meta - ask for the best canonical Q&A we should link stuff to

Avinash Raj

Make a single elaborate answer for a particular briefly explained question.And then mark all the other quetions as dupe of that main question.

follow foss's

Venki

@fossfreedom Care to elaborate?

fossfreedom

we've done this in the past - such as a canonical Q for upgrading/installing software on old releases, or broadcom drivers. If the community thinks its a good idea to create a canonical Q about fglrx installation and troubleshooting then we should (as a community) start to think about closing/merging/duping against this canonical Q

Oli

11:52

It seems that every time I go to review a suggested edit, it's so severe that I'm halfway on my way to nuking an account for vandalism before I realise it's a bloody audit.

fossfreedom

:)

Venki

Well what is a "CANONICAL QUESTION" ?

I have only heard of AU questions..!

I know CANONICAL is the company that runs Ubuntu..

fossfreedom

A master question - the gospel for all similar Q's

Venki

Ok then in meta AU I should post a question in the lines of "...

Oh I got stuck there!!

Ok here it is. Should that question be in the lines of "Does the AU community require a CANONICAL question on installing fglrx drivers?"

fossfreedom

e.g. meta.askubuntu.com/questions/6631/… meta.askubuntu.com/questions/6026/… meta.askubuntu.com/questions/5856/…

yeah - something like that title. Give examples in your Q where you believe the Q's are very similar and maybe we should consider duping/merging etc.

Venki

12:00

Now I got it!! Thanks !! question is coming up soon.. will get back to u when I have posted it..you have got to help me to tweak that question .. Can you ?

fossfreedom

sure

Rinzwind

ARGH FOSSY

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Q: Need help to install Ubuntu

I downloaded Ubuntu 13.10 iso file. I mounted it and it asked for reboot. After reboot windows started normally. Every time its just asks for reboot and does nothing.

IT SAID 13.04 when I flagged it >:)

(i changed the tag just now :D )

fossfreedom

:) too fast :P - you can retract your close vote

Rinzwind

ehm

is that new? :-X

or maybe I never revisited that page after voting for a close :P

Achu

12:18

14.04 Beta2 Vagrant-box for PHP developers :)

github.com/AchuM/Vagrant-Ubuntu14.04

Venki

@fossfreedom

question has been created...

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Q: Do we need a Canonical question on fglrx drivers?

I am bringing this to the attention of the community as I am seeing a lot of questions on this topic. I myself have answered quite a few questions on this topic. See all these links:- Why ubuntu is not detecting my AMD Radeon graphics? Which proprietary driver should I activate? ATI Catalyst v...

check it out..

fossfreedom

there you go +1 for an excellent Q

Venki

Thanks a lot man...

Hey..Something just struck me..this will convince the community more...

let me edit...

Ask Ubuntu Meta

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Q: Do we need a Canonical question on fglrx drivers?

I am bringing this to the attention of the community as I am seeing a lot of questions on this topic. I myself have answered quite a few questions on this topic. See all these links:- Why ubuntu is not detecting my AMD Radeon graphics? Which proprietary driver should I activate? ATI Catalyst v...

Avinash Raj

@Venki thambi renda nalula oogonu varriyae pa. Annana yennaikkum marakka koodathu, yenna.

fossfreedom

12:31

english please

Avinash Raj

no no

Rinzwind

@fossfreedom he is threathening venki! ban him!

Avinash Raj

@Rinzwind no,

Venki

@AvinashRaj Puriyala 'na. English laya podunga pappo!!

Sorry!

Avinash Raj

porumaiya vasi.

Venki

12:33

'oogonu' apadinna yenna?

Avinash Raj

valarnthu

fossfreedom

I'm serious

Rinzwind

ehm... don't ignore moderator instructions please ;)

Danatela

@fossfreedom and I just made the one who deserves the bounty delete his answer :'(

fossfreedom

give it to me - it was my answer :P

Avinash Raj

12:34

Winthin two days, you reach the top. Please don't forget me brother.

Danatela

@Venki @AvinashRaj please both you stop!

Venki

@AvinashRaj Oh madurai tamizha!!

Avinash Raj

@fossfreedom ^^

@Venki yes.

Venki

Naan thiruvalluvar fan!! nanri marakka matein!! Kambar vazhakkula "Naay adiyaen" !!

Avinash Raj

@Danatela stopped :)

Stack Exchange

12:36

fossfreedom has frozen this room.

Oli

Brrr

So cold.

fossfreedom

look - I try to be fair

but please ensure you play by the rules of the room

Stack Exchange

fossfreedom has unfrozen this room.

Avinash Raj

@fossfreedom sorry.

@Venki don't speak in Tamil here.

Venki

@fossfreedom I am sorry too!

Oli

12:39

Me too :(
Sorry for interrupting.

Danatela

@fossfreedom yeah just get my +1

Avinash Raj

why silence?

Venki

@fossfreedom Sorry again. Will never repeat it...Was just thanking AvinashRaj...Now I have edited this..Can you have a look again??

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Q: Do we need a Canonical question on fglrx drivers?

I am bringing this to the attention of the community as I am seeing a lot of questions on this topic. I myself have answered quite a few questions on this topic. See all these links:- Why ubuntu is not detecting my AMD Radeon graphics? Which proprietary driver should I activate? ATI Catalyst v...

Oli

@Achu That's an interesting setup... Don't suppose you know how a stack like that (hhvm+perconia) performs compared to a more standard php-fpm+mysql on real world apps? I've got a legacy server full of Wordpress installs the are grinding away at my soul because they're so slow. Been considering HHVM for a while but never looked at the database.

Avinash Raj

@Danatela wow, you created a separate room.

Danatela

12:44

@AvinashRaj just for the temporal reason

fossfreedom

... back - cuppa tea in hand!

Oli

@Achu Oh my... ~9 times quicker on Wordpress before database improvements. I guess I'm going to have to look at this seriously. Edit: No... ~40 times quicker when warmed up. This is serious.

Avinash Raj

hmm.

fossfreedom

@Venki yep - looks good. Let the debate begin

Venki

It has already!! Check out Briam's comment there...

Avinash Raj

12:52

is there any bash regex ebook?

Braiam

@StackExchange meh, that would be more funny if it said "fossfreedom has frozen the users of this room."

Rinzwind

@AvinashRaj why? bash regex is special? ;-)

Avinash Raj

see amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1590591070/aspalliancecom . like that for bash.

Oli

@AvinashRaj Which do you mean? String manipulation/matching in Bash or sed/grep/awk/perl/etc?

Avinash Raj

but someone says, regex varies between programming languages.

Oli

12:56

Either way, I'd probably shoot for a generic regex format and then learn (from experience when \d doesn't work) when you're dealing with an engine that won't let you use shortcuts :)

Venki

@Oli and @Braiam this link posted to me by @fossfreedom askubuntu.com/questions/61396/installing-nvidia-drivers seems to contain an answer to a number of questions.......So why dont we create something similar specific to fglrx?

Rinzwind

@AvinashRaj not that much. In linux we probably use most of the times the perl version.

Avinash Raj

@Rinzwind is there any perl regex book?

amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0596002890/aspalliancecom

Oli

@Venki Yeah, and in my opinion that's far too broad. Luis originally wanted to have all graphics drivers under one roof. That sort of conglomeration just isn't useful outside of a documentation role.

Avinash Raj

i think, it covers all prog languages.

Rinzwind

13:00

@AvinashRaj yes :=)

Avinash Raj

Dupe askubuntu.com/questions/446452/…

but i can't find the original one.

Venki

@Oli So what do you suggest we do? Atleast we must create a question that tells about all the ways to install fglrx??

Rinzwind

oh and @AvinashRaj that o'reily book is good! :)

Achu

@Oli They got a WordPress installation running at 23 concurrent requests per second, all the way up to 949 per second. Thats cool ;) Please let me know if are going to use my box and find any hiccup. and Can i get a start at github? :D

Avinash Raj

@Rinzwind it's so hard to read O'reily books.

Achu

13:02

@Oli BTW, That my first VagrantBox I will make more interesting box's the coming days.

Venki

@Oli So what do you suggest we do? Atleast we must create a question that tells about all the ways to install fglrx??

Rinzwind

@AvinashRaj not an ebook but perldoc.perl.org/perlrequick.html and perldoc.perl.org/perlre.html are good too

Achu

The base box is on my dropbox and the link might be suspended by dropbox. Does anyone know a free server for this?

Braiam

poor Oli, like 4 ping

Venki

Sorry if I am being nuisance..But dnt freeze me for that!!!

:-(

Avinash Raj

13:07

@Rinzwind thanks for the linkies.

Venki

@AvinashRaj what do you think about this? meta.askubuntu.com/questions/8893/…

Avinash Raj

follow mods suggestions.

Venki

Hmmm.. So we will have to create separate questions about different ways to install...different ways to troubleshoot...But I will be needing help to do that and also inform moderators about it..so that questions could be marked dupe..right?

Jorge Castro

things like hardware get complicated

it depends on the video card

If I have a certain ATI card it totally works out of the box, if I have a different one it might be a horribly supported experience

that's why the broadcom question is so xbox huge, no one wants to read that.

Avinash Raj

@blade you choose a right package.

Venki

13:14

But anyways..a how-to just about installing ATI driver need not be complicated..I suppose ???

Jorge Castro

it is, ATI's linux support is pretty horrible

that's why it's so complicated

Venki

Do you mean that there is no single way which everyone could follow for installing a driver!! Thats bad! But probably we can have a "If you have a card released after this date do this install" kinda thing ?

And we can learn which date is to be specified from the ATI site?

Jorge Castro

Just think of whatever your worst nightmare is in supporting a piece of technology is. :)

Venki

:) BTW

this one askubuntu.com/questions/446455/… is off topic?

@AvinashRaj This seems to be off topic this one askubuntu.com/questions/446455/… to me. Why did you answer ?

Avinash Raj

OMG.

@mods But it's not a bug report.

Venki

13:23

@JorgeCastro support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop?os=Linux+x86 See it there are only 2 drivers for Linux now. Now Check these 2 : support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/… support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/…

fossfreedom

@AvinashRaj explain and we can reverse if necessary

Avinash Raj

It is a bug. Best to report this though it probably will be changed in due time (I remember this from older releases too) — Rinzwind 4 mins ago

Venki

@JorgeCastro You will see that they support only some cards..So we can say "IF you have these drivers continue reading this answer"...

Avinash Raj

is that the software-center version is same as the Ubntu release version? @Rinzwind

fossfreedom

@AvinashRaj yep - so its a bug. close and move on

Venki

13:25

@fossfreedom that question you suggested I could post got the attention of a few moderators..What do you think?

fossfreedom

@Venki The purpose of Meta is to get the community involved in the debate. Consensus is often reached after a week or so - so plenty of time to consider and wait for additional comments and answers

Rinzwind

@AvinashRaj If I remember correctly what is shown is an image and not text. Someone just needs to create a new images that shows 14.04

Venki

Oh! Ok... But for now both the moderators who got involved just said gave their suggestion and didnt even upvote my question!! Will it get attention at all?

Rinzwind

@Venki it will :) just sit back and relax :-D

Venki

Ok!!

fossfreedom

13:29

remember - AU is a 24hr site - lots of people who are sleeping at the moment - I'm sure they'll come to play in a few hours!

Patil Aditya

user image

Braiam

@JorgeCastro should we separate them?

Patil Aditya

you call this temporary?

RPi Awesomeness

ouch

fossfreedom

its all relative... :P

Rinzwind

13:30

@PatilAditya yes! it has an end date so it is temporary

RPi Awesomeness

someone is...quite banned

Venki

Anyways probably i must tweak my question according to mod suggestion?

Rinzwind

@Venki nope. leave it as is

Patil Aditya

just for clarification, it's not me!

Venki

Ok...

Avinash Raj

13:31

see the year.

Rinzwind

@PatilAditya sure! sure! we believe you :-)

Avinash Raj

@PatilAditya who's account is that?

Rinzwind

@AvinashRaj bad question ;-)

Patil Aditya

James Mitch, Taloon

1 3 23

apt security ssl wget curl autostart boot

Rinzwind

that's 1 rep we won't miss >:-D

kernel bug: askubuntu.com/questions/445781/…

Dan

13:35

@PatilAditya I wonder if the user will come back after the 15 years and start all over :P

Oli

@PatilAditya And that's why you listen to moderators when they're in a bad mood.

Patil Aditya

I wonder what the user must have done to get suspended for decades but still not get a permanent ban?

terdon

@Oli Is that real or a bug? Suspended till December 2026!? Why not ban?

Oli

@PatilAditya There's no such thing as a permanent ban. We can destroy and delete accounts but that doesn't neccessarily stop the user just creating a new one.

Venki

@terdon Hi !

Patil Aditya

13:40

@Oli but the user can create a new account after temporary ban, I think.

Venki

@Danatela Hi!

terdon

Hi Venki!

Danatela

@Venki Hi

terdon

@Oli OK, so what's the point of suspending someone for so long? Is it just simpler than banning the account?

Danatela

just crashed my system Ж(

RPi Awesomeness

13:41

@Danatela That's not fun :P

Venki

@terdon and @Danatel I posted a question here. Awaiting community's response...

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Q: Do we need a Canonical question on fglrx drivers?

I am bringing this to the attention of the community as I am seeing a lot of questions on this topic. I myself have answered quite a few questions on this topic. See all these links:- Why ubuntu is not detecting my AMD Radeon graphics? Which proprietary driver should I activate? ATI Catalyst v...

Oli

@terdon With this guy it was mostly to make a point. You can only exercise a certain amount of flagrant asshattery before we turn evil.

terdon

@Oli Heh, kinda like giving someone a 300 year prison sentence huh?

Oli

Sure

Danatela

@Venki we saw

fossfreedom

13:42

O_o ... scary flashback - James Mitch - yeah remember that boy. Bad boy mitch

Venki

hm.. So Danatela..What do you think?

Danatela

I'm agree with Braiam

terdon

@Venki Yes, I saw when you posted it (and have upvoted) and I also saw when you mentioned it again 10 minutes ago. Hint, hint. :)

Danatela

single issue - single answer

btw can anyone say what's wrong with my old question?

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Q: How can I adjust framebuffer or X screen relative position?

A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away I had fixed boot screen using this nice solution. Since that time I have been looking for the way to move framebuffer in virtual console slightly to the right and down, relatively to X screen position (or vice-versa), because it is shown in wrong position...

nvidia xorg virtual-console framebuffer

Venki

Ok...But somone felt..even that single answer is complicated!!

terdon

13:46

@fossfreedom That bad huh? I remember the photo, I'd seen him on another site and he seemed reasonable enough. Just a few normal questions and perfectly good behavior. I guess he must have acted out here.

Patil Aditya

chat is flooded with people!!!! but how many of you are really there?

fossfreedom

probably grown-up now - seem to remember that was a year or two ago. Think there was some rumpus on meta or some other question of his.

terdon

@Danatela Why don't you just use the settings on the monitor itself?

RPi Awesomeness

@PatilAditya I'm here :D

terdon

@fossfreedom Yeah, he's a kid. Not his fault. Not ours either though of course :)

Venki

13:48

@Danatela I really want to help you who have helped me a lot!! But I clearly dunno what is framebuffer or X screen! So sorry ! :-(

Danatela

@terdon it is the same resolution so I just can move the screen but it returns to the same position when I press auto adjust

Rinzwind

@PatilAditya be happy Takkat aint here. then it would be crowded :=)

Danatela

@Venki thanks

Patil Aditya

@Rinzwind ;p

terdon

@Danatela I tend to fix the screen settings from the screen itself so that it works outside X and if X needs different settings, I deal with it from the GUI. Setting it up for the tty is just simpler using the screen hardware tools.

Takkat

13:50

@Rinzwind why should I be off? I'm only just workin too much recently...

RPi Awesomeness

@PatilAditya And now I'm not :)

terdon

@Danatela for details on how to set this via the shell or wherever else it works (I'm guessing it is probably related to $COLUMNS but I'm not sure where that is set before a user logs in) I recommend you ask a mod to migrate that Q to U&L. There are more CLI experts there.

Rinzwind

@PatilAditya see! now it became messy here

Danatela

@terdon... If you have the time... Please write what do you think about it in answer or comment. I need any clue

now I'm going to watch Captain America

bye!

terdon

@Danatela I just did, that's the sum total of my wisdom! :P 1) Look at the screen controls, 2) look into where $COLUMNS is set. Seriously, flag for migration to U&L that kind of question is our bread and butter there. There are 2 users I can think of who can probably answer

Mind you @Gilles is one and he's active here too.

Venki

13:57

@terdon Sorry for disturbing. your thoughts on meta.askubuntu.com/questions/8893/… ?

Braiam

@terdon mods can ban now just for a year

no more

Jorge Castro

out of votes

freeze is ripe for cleanup folks!

terdon

@Venki Please stop that! You've mentioned that question 3 times in the past hour!

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Braiam

I think this should be merged askubuntu.com/q/445910/169736

terdon

13 mins ago, by terdon

@Venki Yes, I saw when you posted it (and have upvoted) and I also saw when you mentioned it again 10 minutes ago. Hint, hint. :)

I've upvoted your question, I don't have any thought on it apart from that. It's not a subject I feel particularly strongly on one way or another.

Venki

13:59

ok ok .... So probably I should get out of chat, come again tomorow and see !!

terdon

@Venki No! Don't get out of chat!

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