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The Evil Phoenix

14:00

did @Marco cancel the DVCS session in the classroom, or did I just miss it?

Rinzwind

That was on the 11th :P

The Evil Phoenix

couldnt have been, that was developer week

and i thought it was moved after we made @Marco aware of that

Rinzwind

Please don't schedule sessions from the 11th to the 15th of July - it's Ubuntu Developer Week

Scheduled Sessions

DVCS, why you should be doing it.

An introduction to the ideology of DVCS, various workflows, comparison of: Git, Mercurial, and Bazaar - and how to get started with each. Time permitting this will also cover connecting to LaunchPad, Github, and Google Code

Monday, 11th of July, 18:00 UTC - Marco Ceppi - register for this event

>:-D

htorque

i need instant holidays... three weeks compressed in an hour or so

The Evil Phoenix

@Rinzwind that's outdated

Rinzwind

14:03

the way Bill and Ted did it? @htorque >:D

htorque

i don't know who that is :)

Rinzwind

imdb.com/title/tt0096928 ;-)

htorque

> seemingly dumb

i'm definitely not seemingly, so no - not like bill and ted :P

back to work <[B-)

The Evil Phoenix

lies you have no work

James Gifford

DVCS= Distributed Version Control Systems?

Rinzwind

14:10

Yes James

James Gifford

Thanks @Rinzwind.

Rinzwind

np James :-)

James Gifford

goes back to Ruby and this developers life]

Jorge Castro

@htorque have you updated from trunk today?

you might want to. :)

The Evil Phoenix

hey, its @Marco :P

Marco Ceppi

14:14

@TheEvilPhoenix It was canceled for a sched conflict

I haven't found a time to resched

The Evil Phoenix

ah

could ya update the meta post then?

htorque

@JorgeCastro Rev 1284 looks promising, but i ain't got no time today :(

Jorge Castro

1280 is what you want. :)

new alt tab

htorque

oh, i missed that

All changes applied successfully.
Now on revision 1284.

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: Set up Grub2 to boot Freebsd using either Ubuntu tools or LiveUSB to find what partitions?

I currently have Windows7 and Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty) installed on my computer. I also made a FreeBSD liveUSB and installed it without installing a bootloader (because I didn't want to mess up Grub2, and I thought Grub2 should be able to boot most anything). FreeBSD has it's own partition and inside...

htorque

14:20

oh well, maybe i'll give it a try then :P

Roland Taylor

Hi all.

The Evil Phoenix

@RolandTaylor new gravatar?

Roland Taylor

Yes, my real face again.

htorque

build-deps for unity and nux seem to be out of date

The Evil Phoenix

hm?

htorque

14:34

that google-mock thing should already be in the latest unity build, but apt-get build-dep doesn't get it

The Evil Phoenix

@RolandTaylor looks crupted and overly black

Roland Taylor

@TheEvilPhoenix you hatin on my face?

Jorge Castro

@htorque hah, I bet you need nux trunk too

but that's just a guess

htorque

i always build those together

make[2]: *** [plugins/unityshell/CMakeFiles/unityshell.dir/src/SwitcherView.cpp.o] Error 1
make[1]: *** [plugins/unityshell/CMakeFiles/unityshell.dir/all] Error 2
make: *** [all] Error 2

it complains about nux though

hm

Achu

Hello everyone!

Roland Taylor

14:42

Hi. Achu!!!!

=_= I wasn't sneezing before...

Achu

LOL

htorque

-.- forgot to make install nux

@JorgeCastro urgs, i love those scaled up 48x48 images :P

Jorge Castro

heh

htorque

other than that it looks nice

Jorge Castro

I am more happy that it's landed so early

instead of say, feature freeze

htorque

14:47

just a bit slow to fade in

yeah, those things coming in late, tend to turn out half-a**ed cough overlay-scrollbars cough

Roland Taylor

askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/age-of-empires3

The hell?

Jorge Castro

someone asked a question about AOE3

@MarcoCeppi holla at me if you have time today, I have some stacktack questions!

Roland Taylor

I think that's a slightly unnecessary tag though - but I might be wrong.

Marco Ceppi

@JorgeCastro I'm available for the next 30 mins

Past that I'll be out until 10

Jorge Castro

ok

hey

you had mentioned you had this working for AU

bitbucket.org/zamtools/stacktack/wiki/Home

I have it working awesome, but for SO

under Global Options

he lists how to get it working

but I don't know where to put that $document object

Marco Ceppi

14:52

@JorgeCastro Yeah, I had to add a few parameters to get it working for AU

I ended up hacking through a lot of the code to get it functional in WP

Jorge Castro

oh dude, I found it

nm, I'll mess with it

Alvar

hi all! :D

Marco Ceppi

@JorgeCastro Cool, good luck!

Jorge Castro

    $(document).stacktack({site:askubuntu.com, onlyShowAcceptedAnswer: true});

easy!

Marco Ceppi

Yeah, I had a problem with the CSS not loading, so this is what mine looks like

Roland Taylor

14:54

@Alvar hola.

Marco Ceppi

      $(document).ready(function() {
	$(document).stacktack( {site: 'askubuntu.com', onlyShowAcceptedAnswer: true, stylesheet: 'http://marcoceppi.com/wp-content/themes/classica-package/classica/css/stacktack.min.css' } );
      });

htorque

here we are again... "This video will start converting in approximately 00:30:23." that's my last upload to vimeo.

Marco Ceppi

But otherwise, it's pretty straight forward

Ack, I've got to start checking who is asking these questions before I answer

htorque

@JorgeCastro if you got time, can you test something? open a gnome terminal, make it relatively small and place it on the left side of your screen. now double-click its title bar to maximize, unmaximize by double-clicking the free space in the top panel. repeat. does the window move to the right with every restore (using the default 'smart' window placing mode of compiz)?

Alvar

@RolandTaylor :)

Marco Ceppi

14:58

@RolandTaylor Don't put "Questions pertaining to..." in front of the tag excerpt - it's kind of obvious that it's about questions relating to that topic given the nature of the site.

Roland Taylor

@MarcoCeppi I figured it out lol

But thanks for the positive reinforcement.

Marco Ceppi

:D Thanks for taking care of tags

Roland Taylor

@Alvar I missed that one?

Alvar

@RolandTaylor what?! :O

Marco Ceppi

it's like the elephant on the site

Jorge Castro

14:59

@MarcoCeppi Is the whitespace relevant? Mine's not doing the onlyShowAcceptedAnswer

Alvar

no one else said hello :(

Roland Taylor

it's fun to edit tags for me

@Alvar oh

Jorge Castro

and I just copied and pasted your lines

Marco Ceppi

@JorgeCastro No, whitespace is irrelevant

Where is it installed?

Jorge Castro

do I need 'true'? or is true fine

Alvar

15:01

does anyone know how VoiceOver works on a ipod shuffle?

Jorge Castro

I am using it on tumblr

Marco Ceppi

@JorgeCastro true is a valid boolean name in Javascript - is the site name enclosed in ' ' ?

Jorge Castro

it is

maybe it just looks wrong on the preview

should I use your CSS?

is it like orange and awesome?

Marco Ceppi

@JorgeCastro No, it looks like this:

marcoceppi.com/2011/06/fork-bombs-they-still-exist

I just made it more narrow to fit my blog

it should be orange and awesome though

Jorge Castro

oh, it has a width thing btw

width: '900px'

built in

according to the doc anyway

Marco Ceppi

15:05

yeah, a lot of that wasn't working

Jorge Castro

lol, tumblr is down now. :-/

Marco Ceppi

You've crashed it! heh

I'm going to throw the AU logo on mine for now

but I'll progressively make it more awesome

Jorge Castro

on your CSS?

should I just use your CSS and it'll get awesome over time?

Marco Ceppi

yeah

@JorgeCastro Yeah, if you want that's fine

Jorge Castro

@MarcoCeppi when you're happy with it we can host it on ubuntu.com somewhere

then I can just tell people to use it

Marco Ceppi

15:15

Cool, sounds good

For now It's just got the AU logo in place of the stack tack logo. I've got to run but I'll see you all later

Jorge Castro

/me nods

thanks for your help!

Roland Taylor

askubuntu.com/tags/compaq-nx8220

^--- should we have tags like that?

htorque

we already have a bunch like those

Roland Taylor

But, should we?

htorque

i'm not sure we should have them, though

Roland Taylor

15:23

It's a bit cumbersome to maintain tags for every kind of laptop/desktop/mac - no matter how many active users we have :)

James Gifford

I don't think we should have tags like that. it's too localized.

htorque

maybe just vendor and series? [hp] [compaq]

Roland Taylor

Like for example, my laptop alone has several versions: mine is the dv7 1020us, but there is also a 1020tx, etc...

James Gifford

@htorque I like that.

@RolandTaylor check the 2buntu room.

Roland Taylor

Something like hp-pavillion, compaq gx etc.

@JamesGifford roger that

htorque

15:26

new unity alt-tab switcher: vimeo.com/26578611

it's ctrl-tab, though :>

James Gifford

shinnyyy....

It's more mac like than before.

Roland Taylor

Kinda like GNOME Shell, but better in visuals.

Now all it needs is some kind of fancy Synapse/Do style preview + regex :)...

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zkriesse

15:44

sup peeps

Roland Taylor

Hola.

zkriesse

sup @RolandTaylor

The Spartan Penguin has arrived

:D

htorque

gone for a while, cya

zkriesse

laters @htorque

keep it real

Spills an icecold smoothie on @TheEvilPhoenix

Roland Taylor

@htorque cya

@zkriesse welcome to The Spartan Penguin, but this is Athens.

James Gifford

15:49

@zkriesse You're an Ubuntu Wiki mod... so that means you get an email every time I screw with a wiki page?

zkriesse

@RolandTaylor oh dangit!

@JamesGifford no...you only get wiki notifications if you're subscribed to the wiki page in question

@JamesGifford Why asketh thee? Editing pages left and right?

Or do I need to worry now :P

James Gifford

@zkriesse When I edit something, I get this thing at the top of the page saying these people were notified - and it's the same people every time. :P

As for why I asked, I was just curious.

zkriesse

@JamesGifford Ah well, those are either bot-ish subscriptions plus they're the uber wiki admins I believe...

James Gifford

@zkriesse OK. Thanks for answering my question.

zkriesse

@JamesGifford certainly

Yeah I'm definitely a wiki guru

James Gifford

15:55

cool stuff. :)

zkriesse

lol

Yeah I enjoy it

brb

Roland Taylor

Back.

Amith kk

@RolandTaylor \o

hello all

Roland Taylor

oi

Amith kk

"Is there a way I can preview the changes?"

@RolandTaylor I dont think so

Roland Taylor

16:11

:/

Well I can't go ahead with changes if we can't see what will happen before they are applied.

Amith kk

ill upload the theme

then you can press the "preview" button :/

Roland Taylor

kk

that works

it's just a theme btw?

Amith kk

Not just themes

Addons

and its premium :D

Roland Taylor

send it again

Amith kk

send what?

Roland Taylor

16:14

the invitation to gtalk or w/e it was

empathy didn't let me respond

zkriesse

argh!

i have returned

Amith kk

Hello @WarriorTux

zkriesse

lol

very funny @Amithkk

Roland Taylor

Hi DoR.

zkriesse

:p

DoR

16:20

@RolandTaylor sup?

Roland Taylor

Nothing much, just doing some online house keeping.

zkriesse

cool

George Edison

16:58

@StefanoPalazzo: Did you get a chance to try JS Studio?

Amith kk

@RolandTaylor come in

The Evil Phoenix

Greetings

htorque

back :)

Rinzwind

front :)

The Evil Phoenix

lies we all know you have not returned

Amith kk

17:07

BBT gotta sleep

The Evil Phoenix

YOU DO NOT NEED SLEEP

you need coffee

:P

zkriesse

17:40

lol

Roland Taylor

back

zkriesse

damnit

I can't get redshift to work

Marco Ceppi

18:05

Woo, installing Ubuntu on my work machine :D

George Edison

How'd you pull that one off?

Marco Ceppi

I got a different job :P Then I asked

George Edison

Good job.

The Evil Phoenix

lol

@Marco nice

Takkat

Hi all

The Evil Phoenix

18:22

Greetings, @Takkat

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Q: How to organize a block of text in 8-character lines?

I'm toying around with binary code and ciphers and I've a chunk of text which I would like to reorganise in 8-character lines (those familiar with the topic will understand why). See: 010000100110010100100000011100110111010101110010011001 010010000001110100011011110010000001100100011100100110 1...

command-line shell-scripting

i dont think that's relevant to Ubuntu

migrate worthy to SO or something?

Marco Ceppi

No, it's on-topic here

The Evil Phoenix

How so?

it relates to shell scripting, and not necessarily Ubuntu

Marco Ceppi

He's asking for a solution using tool sets typically found in Linux (and by proxy - Ubuntu)

Programming questions are on-topic so long as they related to Ubuntu in someway - this is probably better suited for U&L or SO - but it's an edge-case

and I typically side with the author in regards to edge cases

The Evil Phoenix

i see

Marco Ceppi

Because, lets say I migrate - and the author gets offended

Then he's going to email me or post on meta making a stink about it

The Evil Phoenix

18:28

in which case he can stuff it

Marco Ceppi

then we say "well, it's kind of, sort of, iffy"

The Evil Phoenix

because users should be listening to the mods

Marco Ceppi

and we just look weak by comparison

because it's ontopic here, and it's ontopic on U&L, and it's ontopic on SO

James Gifford

@MarcoCeppi also, as @oli mentioned to me awhile back, shell scripting can be very distro-specific.

Marco Ceppi

if it's on-topic on more than two SE site I usually say let it ride

@JamesGifford This is also true

Takkat

18:29

also, sometimes such questions add fun

James Gifford

@MarcoCeppi shuts up now

Marco Ceppi

in the end it's also on-topic here

James Gifford

So let it stay

Marco Ceppi

so it's all about giving a good user experience at this point - it'll get answered on all three, but migrating forces the user to move to another site

for new users this can be confusing

anyways - great question @TheEvilPhoenix Thanks for bringing it up

Takkat

@TheEvilPhoenix it is definitely worth discussing!

zkriesse

18:31

lol

James Gifford

Watches as the post stays

zkriesse

Kicks some Persian but, saves King Leonidas

Takkat

no upvotes yet... (?)

The Evil Phoenix

@Takkat meta discussion worthy?

@MarcoCeppi no problem, bringing up questions is helping me understand where or where not to flag

Takkat

if we didn't have it before - maybe (but it feels like we had it before)

The Evil Phoenix

18:36

if you cant find a question that exists @Takkat i'll gladly write a new one

:P

@Marco where would I report an SE-wide bug with IE7 and site rendering?

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zkriesse

pours ice cold milk all over @TheEvilPhoenix

Marco Ceppi

@TheEvilPhoenix You can do it on our meta - SE checks all the metas now

You can also do it on meta.so

zkriesse

Proceeds to rock out to Kurukuru Mark no Sugoi Yatsu

Takkat

@TheEvilPhoenix didn't find a meta Q on that topic

The Evil Phoenix

18:41

sets ignore on @zkriesse

zkriesse

Lol

@TheEvilPhoenix you wouldn't do that...who else can you pour hot coffee on

juancarlospaco

hi

whats up?, whats down?

Takkat

o/

zkriesse

what's left?

oh and what's right!

The Evil Phoenix

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Q: Discussion: Edge-Case Questions which can belong on Multiple Sites

This question counts as an edge-case question: How to organize a block of text in 8-character lines? Such an edge-case question can be considered extremely loosely on-topic for AskUbuntu. However, it is fully on-topic for StackOverflow or Unix&Linux. In such edge cases as these, what is th...

discussion moderation migration

also can someone with tagwiki powers check the tag wiki? I think i tried to create the tag wiki for the minecraft tag

Takkat

18:53

minecraft there is no wiki entry...

juancarlospaco

tag

can you create a tag about tags ?

[tag]

:P

Marco Ceppi

@TheEvilPhoenix it was rejected

The Evil Phoenix

ok

and i take it there's no explanation as to why?

;)

Marco Ceppi

There is, the tag excerpt just says "questions about minecraft"

it should breifly describe what minecraft is

The Evil Phoenix

Shouldn't that be in the actual wiki part, and not the excerpt?

Marco Ceppi

18:56

the wiki itself needs not contain "questions about..." in it. Instead it should be like a mini wikipedia entry

The Evil Phoenix

otherwise the wiki part and the actual excerpt will be duplicated

Marco Ceppi

it's assumed that this is a tag about questions about minecraft

the except need only be one or two sentances long

at most

TheX

@MarcoCeppi hey long time no see...

Marco Ceppi

The entry should be a paragraph + depending on the content

The Evil Phoenix

such as "Minecraft is a Java-based game..." and more about the game in 2 sentences?

Marco Ceppi

18:57

aka a mini wikipedia page

The Evil Phoenix

okay

i see

juancarlospaco

everything Phoenix is rejected by default...

The Evil Phoenix

i'll see if i can recreate it later when i'm not at work :P

Marco Ceppi

@juancarlospaco Not true, he is one of the more prolific editors/flaggers :)

The Evil Phoenix

(BTW, there should be linked guidelines to what a tag wiki entry should look like ;) )

Marco Ceppi

18:58

I agree

if You make a great minecraft wiki I'll create a meta article about it

The Evil Phoenix

and now that i've seen this

i'd like to file a complaint against @juancarlospaco

for being an outright ass everywhere

i have had him on ignore for about a week for being annoying

and somewhat insulting when talking about me

even if he isnt involved in the convo

juancarlospaco

lulz

The Evil Phoenix

2 mins ago, by juancarlospaco

everything Phoenix is rejected by default...

this counts as theoretical slander in the legal universe

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