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Q: Start closing "I can't see partitions while installing" questions

I have seen a lot (really tons of them) questions regarding "I can't see [Windows] partitions while installing Ubuntu". A common property between all of them is that almost none of them has close votes for bug. Why??? It should be closed as such because .. it is a bug! Also some of them provide...

Seth

00:36

spam of sorts: askubuntu.com/a/417512/44179

Braiam

@Seth VTC the Q too ;)

Seth

done

Braiam

00:48

vtr

Lucio

Could a couple of you explain what blacklist a tag means? Or it result

This is confusing me.

Braiam

can someone vtc this against this

@Lucio that nobody else can ask a question with that tag

Mateo

@Lucio Inkscape for making a logo, gimp for putting jrg's head on luke skywalker ;)

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Lucio

@Braiam but forced or if the user wants to?

@Mateo lol

Braiam

@Lucio nobody can ask a question with that tag

nor edit it in...

Lucio

00:53

30 secs ago, by Lucio

@Braiam but forced or if the user wants to?

Braiam

@Lucio if you can't, why is that?

Lucio

forced then

Braiam

exactly... we need to get rid of that tag...

Lucio

@Mateo hey, GIMP worked perfect

I wanted to draw a dotted line with curve.

Mateo

cool

Braiam

00:56

@Lucio why you ask?

Lucio

@Braiam not english native

@Mateo but I don't have a steady hand :P

Mateo

not bad

Lucio

there is another lost point at the top middle

now that I do zoom, every point has lost xD

Mateo

imagesbyheatherm.wordpress.com/2009/07/26/…

Lucio

:O

that URI says it all

Oh, Inkscape

Mateo

01:02

so you can draw a line, and style it with dots

then the dots follow the line

Lucio

I should write the same post but with GIMP :)

@Mateo right, that is called "Path" in GIMP (for some unknown reason)

Seth

Why am I getting:

No refs in common and none specified; doing nothing.
Perhaps you should specify a branch such as 'master'.
Everything up-to-date

In my new git repo, when I try to run git push?

Never ran into that before.

Braiam

what is git status? maybe you didn't pulled first

Seth

I git cloned it..

git push -u origin master worked..

Braiam

mm... that git repo is borked D:

(remembers glib repos some years prior)

Lucio

01:12

@Mateo I just made it :D

Mateo

@Lucio nice!

Lucio

thank you!

@Seth what was the full set of commands that you entered?

Seth

@Lucio git clone <link>

Lucio

and then push? nothing else?

Seth

touch readme.mkd
touch index.html
git add -A
git commit -m "Some message"
git push

then that --^

Lucio

01:16

ah

@Seth wait, it worked finally?

lol

Here I'm another time, trying to solve the past.

Seth

I used git push -u origin master then it worked.

@Mateo You're on Koding right?

Mateo

yep

are you?

Seth

yes

Could you help me test something real quick?

Mateo

sure

Seth

What's your username?

I want to test it's real time collaboration.

Mateo

01:20

@Seth should be same as my github, do you know that one?

hbdgaf

@Lucio path is a place for a graphic to follow, so if you put a path in place and style it with dots, triangles, dashes, whatever... it's still a path. dotted line doesn't cover it.

Braiam

long history short: line in GIMP means path...

Seth

@Mateo No.. I don't ;)

missed it :(

Mateo

o_O

Seth

got it

hbdgaf

01:24

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A: Does e-mail address obfuscation actually work?

I've always liked the simple, elegant and not to mention classy solution of using: Tacky Turing 0MB [email protected] To email me, first you have to remove my pants. Using this method I don't get any spam. In fact I don't get any email.

^^ not my joke

Seth

Koding can't find a user with that username (yes, I removed the necessary parts)

oh wait, got it now I think.

@Mateo invited.

@hbdgaf interesting.

hbdgaf

downside is some people don't get it.

Seth

01:37

@Mateo I closed the tab..

@hbdgaf I could see that happening..

Mateo

then it said "seth left"

Seth

can you still mess with stuff?

Mateo

it says "This session is not valid or no longer available.
This usually means, the person who is hosting this session is disconnected or closed the session."

Seth

OK good.

Thanks for helping @Mateo :)

Mateo

looks like that could be useful for some things

Seth

02:07

This is a dupe, but I don't know what of..

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Q: Change unity dash lens

May have my terminology wrong here, but the unity dash is a utility launched by clicking the little unity logo on the top left, and the lens is the window that opens out and filters results? Anyway, my unity dash appears to be stuck on the social lens, and I can't search my system and the store f...

unity lenses

@Braiam --^

Braiam

@Seth read the comment on the answer to the dupe you linked:

i just completely reinstalled 13.04 and it worked :/ sorry i couldn't try your method, hopefully it works for someone else — Akash Ramani May 2 '13 at 16:23

Seth

I read it

Nathan Osman

@Seth You changed your gravatar!

Seth

@NathanOsman For a bit, yes.

About a week or so.

FEichinger

@NathanOsman

Nathan Osman

02:16

:)

Gotta eat. I'll take a look later.

Braiam

@FEichinger follow up?

FEichinger

@Braiam Hm?

Braiam

about the discussion in the bridge

FEichinger

Oh, yeh.

It nagged me ... It's the kind of thing we usually already have elaborate best-practice documented somewhere.

Braiam

I think we should close this as no repro

> This is what I decided to do. I did not see the rest of your help 'til now. Nevertheless....

> I think the best thing for me to do now is to get a cheap used laptop and either do a dual installation or just install Ubuntu on to it.

PKM!

FEichinger

02:28

...

Accepted ... why?!

Braiam

@FEichinger WHY?
THIS.
IS.
ASKUBUNTU!

drops @FEichinger in a bottomless pit

FEichinger

@Braiam ...

No.

Seth

What the...

@Braiam that has a good answer.

Braiam

@Seth but OP gave up... we will never know if it actually worked...

Seth

so?

We don't need to know if it actually worked, it is a good answer with lots of upvotes

Braiam

02:33

@Seth but new answers will not help anybody...

that Q/A is a mess and upvotes != quality...

Seth

besides I don't see where he gave up..

Braiam

the A could serve as diagnosis but is not a problem-solving answer

8 mins ago, by Braiam

> I think the best thing for me to do now is to get a cheap used laptop and either do a dual installation or just install Ubuntu on to it.

FEichinger

@Braiam Case in Point

Braiam

@FEichinger ...................................................... (when only three points are not enough)

Seth

@Braiam I don't see that.

ah, now I do. Still doesn't change my opinion.

Braiam

02:38

@Seth will you allow another question like that to be asked?

were OP gave up?

FEichinger

The question is not even a question as it stands.

It needs heavy editing.

Boil it down to the information, drop all that communication with comments and answers and whatnot from it ...

And formulate an actual question.

Nathan Osman

@FEichinger Did you figure out the email display issue?

FEichinger

@NathanOsman Well, the answer I got is a neat idea. Still doesn't answer what I was going for, but it's a solution.

Seth

@FEichinger You have a point there.

@Braiam I don't care if the OP gave up. If it has a good answer that could help others it should be ok.

Sometimes details change that, but in general that's how it is.

I'll VTC it though because as @FEichinger said it's hardly a real question and that pretty much negates the answer.

FEichinger

@Seth Well, we no longer have a NARQ close vote.

"unclear" with that mass of information is a bad choice.

OT is bad.

TB and POB don't really fit either ...

Seth

02:45

So use OT is what MSO wants us to do.. so that's what I did.

FEichinger

Yeh, I remember why I hate the new closing system every time I use it.

Speaking of which, I really should generate some AU rep again ...

Seth

@FEichinger Yeah, I miss most of the old closing system. sigh

@FEichinger Yes you should.

FEichinger

review

Braiam

sighs Seth, will say again. The vote to close is against the question, not the answers. Even if the answers has bazillion upvotes if the question doesn't fit the scope of AU it should be closed.

Seth

but the question fits the scope. I only voted to close because the question was such a mess no one would want to look at it.

FEichinger

02:54

Now I remember why I don't post here anymore ...

Questions feel like duplicates of something all the time.

Post a new question? Nah, it's probably already asked, but I'm not wading through all of this mess to find the one I'm looking for.

Seth

yep yep. Just answer it anyway, as long as you don't know of a duplicate top of your head.

FEichinger

Post an answer to a new question? Nah, question should be closed, not answered. Needn't pile onto the mess.

Braiam

wut... doesn't update the comment?

FEichinger

@Braiam LTS.

Seth

@FEichinger What was up with that question you just edited o_O

FEichinger

02:59

@Seth Hm?

User is playing the forum game and adding "help me" tags to titles.

Braiam

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A: Ubuntu 12.04 Wireless problem in hp pavilion g6

Please supply Computer Make and Model and if possible the name of the wireless card installed please.

this is the kind of questions that attracts this kind of answers

(and the reason why I lack always of close votes)

FEichinger

We need to get rid of the tech support impression. We really, really do.

4

Straight-up close new questions that don't provide enough information.

3

Braiam

@FEichinger MOD!

FEichinger

Straight-up ban questions that just dump a log on us.

Get proper canonical questions, close existing dupes.

Seriously, we need to get on top of this, and that means we need to deal with the questions right as they come in.

Braiam

and stop this sphere of closing as dupe everything that is vaguely related

Seth

03:06

@FEichinger That's what we do...

Braiam

OT no repro askubuntu.com/a/417268/169736

@Seth no, we don't... the close queue should grow about 50 questions/day only does about 20-25

FEichinger

@Seth No, we get a new question, someone asks for more information and everyone leaves the question be for a week until the votes expire and it's left to rot.

Seth

@FEichinger Well then people aren't closing right..

FEichinger

This may again be caused by us not actually having enough people with closevotes at most times, but it's a big problem either way.

@Seth People aren't closing at all, is the problem.

The site generates more crap questions by the hour.

"on hold", as much as I despise it, is intended to be temporary - the review queues help with that. Viciously close vote anything that doesn't meet standards. It can always be reopened when it was edited, and it will automatically show up in the queue when that happens.

Seth

@FEichinger It's not quite that bad, but we do need more people to use their votes.

FEichinger

03:11

We need more people who have close votes to begin with.

Which brings us back to the up/downvote issue.

Braiam

we need more votes, so people gets rep so they can help out closing questions...

FEichinger

The few users that do frequently cast their up- and downvotes are of no use to us when there's hundreds that don't.

Braiam

but then... in this current year alone I has been a lazy voter and nonetheless I'm the one in first place...

which is sad...

FEichinger

I don't vote either, because I'm sick of watching this.

Seth

Can anyone access this page? help.libreoffice.org/Common/Check_for_Updates_1

FEichinger

03:14

It's a spiral. There's little to no motivation to participate like this.

Seth

I'm fine with it.. always needs work, but that's ok for me.

Braiam

@Seth it times out...

Seth

yeah same here..

FEichinger

@Seth Yeh, libreoffice has been having outages repeatedly.

Braiam

cache:http://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Check_for_Updates_1 if you use chrome/ium to get the google cache version

FEichinger

03:19

@Seth It tends not to be worth the effort anymore. The site is degrading further and further, and making new posts very much feels like one is contributing to the problem.

Seth

@FEichinger shrug. Have it your way.

You want to VTC this one or VTR it? askubuntu.com/questions/417368/convert-hard-drive-to-ntfs

Braiam

@Seth check my comment

Seth

another one we should either VTC or VTR: askubuntu.com/questions/391080/…

Braiam

err what the heck is this? askubuntu.com/a/417420/169736

(has an invalid flag)

Seth

don't ask me.

arrg. All of libre office is down

Avinash Raj

04:23

why i got down vote on this askubuntu.com/a/417548/202806

Braiam

@AvinashRaj you should be voting to close that question, not answering it...

any answer provided is wrong

due the lack of information

Seth

04:41

Hmm. Can anyone detect a syntax error here?

init() {
    if [ -z $@ ]; then
        echo "No arguments provided"
    elif [ $1 = 'save' ]; then
        saveSums()
    elif [ $1 = 'compare' ]; then
        compareSums()
    fi

Aha.

nope..

Oh, I forgot a }, but it's in there.

Braiam

04:56

@Seth check savesums and comparesums functions...

btw, why ()?

➜  AMR git:(develop) init() {
function>     if [ -z $@ ]; then
function then>         echo "No arguments provided"
function then>     elif [ $1 = 'save' ]; then
function elif-then> saveSums
function elif-then> elif [ $1 = 'compare' ]; then
function elif-then>         compareSums
function elif-then> fi
function> }
➜  AMR git:(develop)

@Seth ^?

Seth

@Braiam For readabilities sake.

Braiam

@Seth I'm sure you don't need em...

Seth

@Braiam Don't throw your zsh output at me.. it makes no sense :S

@Braiam maybe not, but it doesn't hurt to have them.

oh, and did I say semantics?

Braiam

@Seth is way cooler than bash... and bash will in 5 years looks like zsh anyways :P

@Seth if I remove the () the thing runs...

Seth

the functions are fine, they match.

I'm getting this error:

./md5sumChecker.sh: line 41: syntax error near unexpected token `elif'
./md5sumChecker.sh: line 41: `    elif [ $1 = 'compare' ]; then'

Braiam

05:01

@Seth is that a tab?

Seth

I think so

What exactly do you mean?

@Braiam You're right, I put them in the wrong spot.

I got my parens mixed up, yeah. I was looking in the wrong place. Thanks @Braiam.

Braiam

> ./md5sumChecker.sh: line 41:

I'm sure that's not line 41 D:

Seth

Yes it is. I use a lot of whitespace in my scripts.

./md5sumChecker.sh: line 39: [: save: binary operator expected

O_o

Bash is so bad with errors.

Braiam

@Seth what is line 39?

depending what you are testing you might use [[...]] instead

specially if it's a comparision

JohnMerlino

05:17

has there been any genuine performance testing between ubuntu and osx to see which one is genuinely faster?

Seth

line 39:  if [ -z $@ ]; then

@Braiam Why would I use that instead? Or rather, why would it be necessary?

Hmm. using double brackets did send the error away. Why?

JohnMerlino

i just upgraded to comcast 57mbps and i just downloaded 20 mb file from gmail in 15 nanoseconds

Nathan Osman

Okay, okay. We're all jealous.

Braiam

@Seth I'm freaking amused of how the same script is failing somewhere else that wasn't having any problem...

Seth

@Braiam yeah it was weird.. But why does double [[ work?

@JohnMerlino Wow..

Braiam

05:23

@Seth It shouldn't work

Seth

@Braiam I am.. confused.

Braiam

[[...]] is used for comparisions

just upload the darn thing so I can take a look...

init() {
  if [ -z $@ ]; then
        echo "No arguments provided"
  elif [ $1 = 'save' ]; then
        saveSums
  elif [ $1 = 'compare' ]; then
        compareSums
  fi
}

this works

Seth

NAA: askubuntu.com/a/417567/44179

@Braiam So far: paste.ubuntu.com/6889442 It isn't done yet though, there are some logic errors I need to work out.

Braiam

@Seth paste.ubuntu.com/6889462

Seth

What'd you change?

Braiam

05:36

that has 0 errors, btw, your problems was the !" in line 30

Seth

oh duh. I always forget those double quotes things.

Braiam

if you used zsh it would be eaten cake to figure it out...

@Seth btw, line 22, saveSums() you are defining the function again inside a function?

Seth

right, another mistake.

I really need to do this more.

Braiam

come to the dark side, install zsh :D

Seth

Thanks for the help anyway.

@Braiam Nope. No will do.

Braiam

05:41

I'm by no means a shell scripting user and zsh helps a lot figuring out syntax problems

Seth

I'm sure it does (I know it does)

but I'd rather suffer with bash.

Braiam

Seth

Right. I got those parens mixed up.

I'm still getting:

./md5sumChecker.sh: line 39: [: save: binary operator expected

guess I need those double brackets

Braiam

you still get that with last mine?

bash doesn't throw me any error...

Seth

yes, with yours. Had to do it on line 27 too.

well I'll finish it tomorrow.

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08:06

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10:10

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kalina

@Rinzwind good to know that the mountain you're climbing has better mobile internet than the area I used to live in.

Takkat

@Rinzwind take care! They say there is an extremely high risk for avalanches...

...triggered by Rinzwind.

Rinzwind

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@Takkat avalanches do not hurt me. I got rep!

Takkat

Good to know... ;)

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All the valleys covered in rep.

Rinzwind

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