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02:06
@FEichinger I'm the craziest person on Stack Exchange, it's true
@kalina That depends on one's definition of "crazy".
I believe in aliens
I don't believe in religion
I believe JFK was murdered by the American government because he disagreed with congress
I believed the government were doing large scale surveillance long before Edward Snowdon told us all what to believe
None of those things make you "crazy".
I can't hold a conversation for more than 10 minutes without changing the subject unless I'm high
And the more you talk, the more I think your sarcasm is getting too thick.
02:10
I eat cake for breakfast
@kalina This is demonstrably wrong.
If I had the choice between spending money on food or spending money on drugs, I'd choose drugs
@FEichinger I've got into the habit of not announcing when I'm high
@kalina >.>
as a matter of fact, I've consumed so many cakes this week that I'm not even sure which way is up at the moment
the scary part is that I'm perfectly fine driving in this condition
I have come to an important realisation as well
and this one even scares/confuses me
even since I moved back into a city, I've realised that I am in fact not an extrovert, as always assumed
@kalina What was that about you "quitting"? o.ô
02:16
@FEichinger cities have lots of interesting things available, at all hours of the day
and I have way too much disposable income right now
I have to get back on track for my untimely death at 30
Tsk. You're not dying before I do.
you have no control over that
Well, I do. But it's not exactly a favourable option.
02:20
soon there will be two full rows of chat users in here
... I doubt that.
@kalina depends on your window size...
i have three rows ;)
I don't even have one full row.
We rarely have two rows, and when we do, no one talks.
@Mateo the only real window size... 1920x1080 on desktop in chrome in a maximised window
02:26
@JourneymanGeek Think you could verify this for me?
I'm not a whole lot of an SU guy.
firefox, I devoted chrome to a flash game I'm playing - need to turn off the graphic card block, but then it glitches other websites, so only games and movies for chrome!
@Mateo you must be a Linux user
only Linux users have to deal with such issues
@Seth looks correct to me
good luck actually getting an answer on the question graveyard that is superuser though
@kalina question graveyard as in?
oh, and thanks :)
you ask a question and never get an answer
it's not quite the question graveyard that is SO
but it's getting there
@kalina ah right. Certainly seems like that's true.
02:31
... oddly enough I only have 1 tumbleweed badge
and the question was answered after I posted it in chat D:
my experience with SO is: ask a high quality question providing all the information
well that escalated quickly...
get 5 comments asking questions that were already covered in depth with my original post
get a couple of answers that missed me already trying that in my question
and then... nothing
0
Q: What is the purpose of the Ask Ubuntu General Room?

vasa1 General discussion around Ask Ubuntu, Ubuntu & official Ubuntu... Please look at the "entries" there over the last few hours. Here's one: I would, but last time I did I got photoshopped into a horrible picture of a pornstar taking it from behind. So, I ask what is the purpose of this r...

there definitely needs to be a more in depth reputation system
oh wonderful
I chat for a bit and it gets complained about
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02:33
I have 0 tumbleweed badges.. just realized that :O
@kalina I'm not sure I would have posted it that way on meta...
I should just go and suicide right now</sigh>
save the world from having to deal with me any further
@kalina Don't you friggin dare.
I'm sorry, let me crack out my sarcasm markup
Oh, I got the sarcasm. But in light of the previous conversation, I just had to reiterate that.
02:35
Well I didn't get the sarcasm so.
I'm just going to save whichever AU mod decides to suspend me for several hours the task of making those few clicks and just leave now
^ not sarcasm
I like the old name:
Jun 7 '11 at 6:05, by Stefano Palazzo
room topic changed to Ask Ubuntu General Room: General discussion around Ubuntu & Ask Ubuntu. Though typically off-topic jazz, pop, and hip hop
@kalina Don't worry, there won't be a moderator around until 7:00 tomorrow.
@Mateo That is hilarious.
I just find it tricky and it could be taked to make spam, don't you think? — Cottar Neinmar 15 secs ago
no, please no. Just no.
@Braiam This wasn't in '11:
Jan 13 at 15:31, by Oli
room topic changed to Ask Ubuntu General Room: General discussion around Ask Ubuntu, Ubuntu & official Ubuntu derivatives. For other Linux distros please see: http://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/26/unix-and-linux (no tags)
ahem
@Seth I mean the introductory phrase... "General discussion around Ask Ubuntu, Ubuntu & official Ubuntu derivatives."
02:40
that one happened because of a fresh sounding distro starting with m
@Braiam Might clarify that..
@Mateo yeah I know.. we won't go there ;)
@Seth btw, that was to remove the tags
ah. Cool, lets bring some bots in.
these aren't the droids you're looking for...
@hbdgaf did you see the socks room ;)
02:45
-1
Q: Is the Spoilers Usage allowed?

Cottar NeinmarShall the use of Spoilers be allowed when asking a question? aesthetics spoilers community root-user

I imagine the room description is "Hi. I am a bot, and I have a problem. It has been X days since my last spam post."
Wait... I know I didn't make that room, but I started that room mod account...
remember you can assign people as owners
02:50
better... i thought it was the blame jrg wheel though?
I got jrg, spin again?
yes
i'm taking a nap. bbl. we'll see what happens with the rest of the key snarfing blobs tomorrow. i have to do laundry and clean the house on my only sort of day off, so my offtime job is shot.
bruno twice in a row!
@Mateo I was just saying no one had added the 3 new moderators.
@Seth cool, looks good.
02:53
the tavern wheel of blame has all the current users of the room d:
@Braiam yeah that was cool.
well, thanks for the serial up-vote whoever... that is all going to get reset tomorrow :( - so i'll enjoy for the short time it is there...
heh, I got serial uv'ed too
03:50
@Seth looks alright to me.
04:01
Be aware people, Spanish is coming!
Finally a place where I would get more reputations than Jon Skeet.
@Lucio: I call that... superuser ;p
04:55
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Q: @ replies do not auto-complete (or even show up) on comments

IQAndreasI cannot seem to get the "auto-complete" pop-up to appear. If I manually write out the entire name when replying, the @Pedro bit simply disappears once the comment is posted. Tested on several questions, and this seems to only be affecting AskUbuntu, and not the rest of StackExchange.

 
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11:04
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A: Add the `option` and `select` from an external website to my website

Ben DYou'll want to use file_get_contents (or curl) to get the actual source code, and the parse it using (for instance) DOMDocument. For instance, you might try something like this: Fist define a function that lets us get the innerHTML of a node (thank you to Hiam): function DOMinnerHTML(DOMNode $e...

Helped me out a lot!
is it okay to ask questions here? actually, i am new here
@blade19899 Thank Him!!
@user41631 I did!
;-) okay
@blade19899 are you in office?
@user41631 Nope. At home. Why?
@blade19899 no, not much....
11:12
@user41631 Cool.
@blade19899 :P
@blade19899 what Linux will you recommend to someone who has 512 mb ram?
nevermind
There is a question on AU about this. I have a strong laptop. Never needed to watch my resources
Keep Blocking
@blade19899 Google Plus????
11:23
Yep
@blade19899 let me search you....
nevermind
@user41631 Jep. And delete that please
Thanks
@blade19899 'why? you don't like your name?
Like to keep to myself on certain parts of the Internet private.
@blade19899 you have so much reputation here and you still want to keep your self private?
11:27
My actual name private. Everything else no matter.
@user41631, see this Q on real names and user names online:
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Q: Is it bad practice to use your real name online?

blade19899On some accounts I use my real name on-line (Google+/Facebook/Wikipedia/personal blog), others (Q&A/Gaming) I use an alias. My question is: Security and privacy wise, what can people do with my real name? What are the dangers of using your real name on-line.

LoL
I am watching this room since last one month, i was willing to participate here and here i win!!

Althrough, for me, its too hard to earn even 20 reputation
Ask good Questions and answer stuff. You will get over 200 in no time
That Q ^ up there got me over 200 up votes. Because i asked a good question
@blade19899 :P I now, know each one of you!
@blade19899 awesome!!
Gotta go. Hungry!
12:20
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Q: memory shows up as used but not on `du`

Reut SharabaniI have a problem where 70G on a server seems unreachable: XXX@XXX:/data$ df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/mapper/ubuntu--Storage-root 120G 2.9G 111G 3% / udev 7.9G 4.0K 7.9G 1% /dev tmpfs ...

12:59
this is getting out of hand: askubuntu.com/questions/414435/…
13:16
@Oli there?
yeah, the q comments need clean up... and there was a downboat party.
should have been a dupe or closed, since "if you were to create new operating system" not about ubuntu
@Mateo - I moved the F11 thing to the cam subsystem. My thinking was to address the F11 key as an on_keypress event from within the camwindow class and keep it separate from global keystroke callbacks to avoid window keystroke was caught in parsing. It just seems... better... to do it that way.
@Mateo whoa. that's all kinds of bad. at least it's locked now.
13:31
@hbdgaf oh, so specific to the window?
think - if window has focus, it gets keys from a keypress signal. otherwise i grab it globally from X11. it makes sense to separate purpose and how i get the signal.
@hbdgaf ah that makes sense
downside - it makes reconfiguring f11 harder. i may just leave that one out of the keypress configuration dialog and make it static.
well, I think if it were the other way - you would need more than one fullscreen key, one for each camera - or some kind of toggle sequence - full 1, then pip 2 - swap...
that would make sense, but it would be a pain to dynamically track. i think just hard-coding f11 since the whole point was intuitive behavior is probably both easiest and best.
Oli
Oli
13:40
@Mateo Yeah I've locked and deleted it. I think there might have been a genuine question in there somewhere but it went weird in the comments.
@Oli It also went weird with sorry if it seems simple, but I'm a woman. That line of thinking really didn't need to be on SE. I know sharp women.
Oli
Oli
Indeed. And the reason I didn't persevere and try to save it was I'm fairly sure it's another user (a known troll) posting with a sockpuppet. I'm waiting for another mod to check the mod room to confirm that I'm not seeing things. I'm not at a real computer atm so don't want to rush to a judgement.
I need some help with df and du output
yeah, the "what if ____" of the question was weird...
@ReutSharabani just so you know, both can be different
13:44
I'm on a server and it shows 70G are taken
Yeah, I got an answer on the unix site telling me that
I just don't understand why
I have 70 lost gigabytes and I intend to find them
:D
Oli
Oli
Plus their "what if" is what Wine actually does...
anyway, df shows 70G while du shows practically 0 (some kbs)
now, after some investigation it turns out that one of our team tried to write a big file there (guess how big? that's right, 70G!). my question is, how do I find the file, and how do I get rid of it?
any help is appreciated!
Oli
Oli
@ReutSharabani Silly question but you know that they do the opposite thing? df shows free space and du shows used space.
How did I use this much space... I'm at 2/3 disk consumption again. I hate cleaning out disks... sorry, just checked df...
yeah, I know :D
it's a 20 terabyte storage server
so im not confusing the output. don't worry :)
the data is somewhere
maybe limbo
13:48
@Oli definitely. the question could have been worded - why aren't all applications written in naked opengl. ;)
ok, lets do this... do not trust du
This is what I call a bad typo:
> For the current session on the computer, temporary storage (Like opening compressed files in Archive Manager) is done in /tmp, and is cleared on shitdown
@falconer at least is not some autocorrect feature messing up with your chats...
@hbdgaf assembly ;)
braiam, I actually just read that du scans inodes
so in this case, it is more reliable than df
13:49
@Mateo i had that tshirt at one point...
@Braiam Yeah, those are nasty "features" :)
and I think the problem is the the file is still "open" when it isn't, so df "counts" it
restart the server?
@ReutSharabani check with lsof +L1
@Mateo can't find a pic of it, but when i bought it... the relatively sharp salesperson of tshirts said something like -- "let me guess, you're neighbor writes C#"
13:56
man I have like 60MB lost due sector misalliniation
@hbdgaf nice
we all lose space... and it makes us all sad. dual booting linux and bsd eats a swathe, then you get in to VMs and you're all "where'ld my disk go?"
@Mateo i lolled... hard.
so true
@hbdgaf: this is precisely why I have seperate disks for things
13:58
laptop only... so i'm stuck. haven't rebuilt my desktop.
My desktop has 4 windows boot, linux, long term storage, and random stuff I downloaded on the storage download box.
again, i don't have a desktop again yet.
@hbdgaf: I was typing that out halfway when you said that ;p
ik
had one, but i lost it to family... and they wonder why i don't talk to them.
Family can suck
ESPECIALLY when you're the tech there.
14:01
come to think of it, i've lost half of all my desktops to family... glad it's a solo thing now. if i lose the next one, I did it.
lol
most of my family has their own laptops, or tablets
oh, this wasn't shared. this was - time to move along with a suitcase. we're keeping all your stuff.
or -- oops i dropped it on the stairs. or -- oops i dropped it carrying it in. or -- oops, i removed your HD retaining screws before i mailed it. yeah, my family sucks
there are too many oops... you sure isn't some kind of bug (you know, like brain damage)?
14:04
it's not brain damage. it's intentional.
if you want anything ever done right, you do it yourself. if you have to depend on someone else doing anything ever, they'll just torpedo it to put you under the bus. just saying.
@falconer - nothing on lsof +L1
I've been messing with lsof trying to find useful information
and nothing
you have been messing with the server too much and haven't found where your space went to? time to restart the server...
that's not a possibility at the moment... :)
AND I want to understand this problem.
to me it smells of "I have this thing that i don't know has a memory leak, and my swap is growing out of control" if the app swaps to its own private space, not a partition.
restart would fix the symptom, but not the problem.
@ReutSharabani wait a freaking minute... you sure the file is exactly 70GiB?
find / -size +69G
14:15
@Oli ^^
15 is enough to upvote
see askubuntu.com/help/privileges @JessicaZapata
that is vote down
125 is for downvoting, but we prefer people upvoting stuff first rather than downvoting
lol, if it makes you feel any better, I had to look it up
yay, chromium got memory corruption
14:20
@JourneymanGeek honestly, for how long were you <125 rep? I know it took me less than a week. probbly less than a day or two.
I can't remember ;p
also. which site?
@JourneymanGeek anything but serverfault...
Amusingly? I probably got 125 rep there pretty fast
confident journeyman got the joke
@JessicaZapata yes
14:22
4 days on SU ;p
So, yes. AU is no harder than SU if you do it at release cycle.
@hbdgaf: also there's the whole matter of getting how things work ;p
there is that...
granted there have been a LOT of tweaks since my SU newbie days
@Mateo - wow, my brain hurts now that i have to support multiple cameras. I know it's just a for loop really, but the camera-state blob is killing me.
14:25
@Braiam can I post output here? it's 5 mines
lines
@Braiam just on relevant line:

/proc/kcore
what's that?
@ReutSharabani something you shouldn't touch...
there's
a
fixed
font
button
for multi-line command output...
sudo file /proc/kcore
[sudo] password for braiam:
/proc/kcore: ELF 64-bit LSB  core file x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), SVR4-style, from 'BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-3.12-1-amd64 root=UUID=cead26d6-08f4-4894-ac78-a9a4ce59f773'
yeah I'm not touching /proc in general :D
only cat and stuff...
@JessicaZapata
- "wait..one hour is enough to gain more than 125 rep if you have robotic hands"
- "yes"
14:29
@hbdgaf hm, did you figure out how to list the available cams, I remember seeing a a bunch of questions about that with opencv not being able to
how should we know?
14:39
...?
there was no challenge
also you made me look like a clown
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congratulations
guys - do you see why I don't upload pictures of myself to the internet?
@JessicaZapata you have a cool profile image
@JessicaZapata too bad that your question got dumped. we don't know how to deal with that.
...
yesterday, by RPi Awesomeness
OMG...who's spamming the stars? Those are supposed to be reserved for actually good stuff
14:55
...
Kids, behave.
@Braiam Supposed. But there never reserved for good stuff. Just random funny stuff
Am leaving you guys!
Consider your selfs dumped
you must be mistaken, I don't get dumped, I do the dumping
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now you points at @blade19899
GET OUT!
...
Soo ... we have a deleted user now? Interesting.
15:02
we do?
Oli
Oli
I've been cleaning house.
@kalina Well, refresh and look up.
why am I still here then?
@Oli It's slightly unsettling.
interesting
@Oli while you're at it can you remove this post as well please
Oli
Oli
15:03
@kalina Yeah it's not you for once.
@Oli "for once", lol.
btw... what happened to your gravatar @kalina?
I'm quitting Stack Exchange
...
Oli
Oli
15:04
Again?
what do you mean, "again"
I'm not actually quitting, and last time wasn't a quit, it was an implosion
Oli
Oli
To paraquote "I used to have 40 zillion reputation on gaming.se before I deleted my account"
that's a bit of an exaggeration
Oli
Oli
indeed
I did lose 1k rep from all my suggested edits though, and 1k rep from all my bounties, etc etc
15:06
@kalina And this is why you're not going to make that same mistake again.
hell no, I can't be bothered submitting 300 edits to AU to get 900 rep again
also I got the deputy badge on AU today
@Braiam That said, email address change, just hasn't propagated to chat properly.
@kalina For heaven's sake, why are you more active on AU than I am?!
I quite like these green shapes
I might just change to it forever
no more "what is your avatar" questions
@kalina No more "cotton candy monster" comparisons?
@FEichinger I'm obviously trying to find a new primary site to live on
15:08
@kalina Right ... AU of all places?
it probably won't be AU though, since it's full of Linux geeks: the worst kind of geeks
...and I thought I'd found all the uses for the humble zip tie. ;) — codedude 10 hours ago
me too :(
@kalina ... Sometimes, your words hurt. :(
and I'm running out of available reputation I can game by submitting edits
I can only get reputation from 162 more edits
and then I'll have to actually start asking questions
15:27
@kalina not this time babe!
don't call me "babe"
I'll burn down your entire existence
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I keep trying to edit this post but it looks like complete gibberish to me
@kalina done.
How can you burn me? You not even near me!
@blade19899 Don't.
@FEichinger Do.
uTorrent arrived on Linux back in 2010 – but not in the form most users were expecting.
15:43
@kalina Was completely worth opening this chat just to read this
thanks, I aim to entertain
I'm bored somebody give me a problem to fix
I have a problem
I have 900 AU rep
I want to get to 20000 AU rep
I don't like Ubuntu
fixitfixitfixit
@kalina I don't think we can do that, no.
You have 42.6k. I am the envy
15:48
that's not on AU
Ah I see
Well get on it
5 mins ago, by kalina
I don't like Ubuntu
16:27
why is linux used so much more than windows for clusters?
I am new to linux and clusters. I have to mount and administer a small cluster (8 pcs). Users should have limited permissions. And the cluster should be accessible in a large network. What's the simplest way of accomplishing this? And where can I find no-nonsense tutorials about this?
16:47
BBT
Good Night
plz tell me the SE site for windows users
@AvinashRaj try superuser.com
@becko thnx

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