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14:00
aha. does it change theme with "-style"?
no
@Rinzwind do you have google earth installed ?
yes
and no it does not change themes
@Rinzwind did you run
sudo mv /opt/google/earth/free/libQt* /tmp
no; that kills googleearth
@Rinzwind but it does run for a second ?
14:04
ofcourse. until it wants to do anything that uses libQ*
@Rinzwind and it uses the gtk+ theme ?
it crashes so it's hard to tell (I use evolution )
they really should add a man page to google earth :(
or a help option
Guys... google earth is a different bag of chips. I think it's statically linked (can't remember for sure), and on 64bit systems it's worse (32bit application).
I want chips!
Hey! Octavius!
14:18
I know :-) I do not mind it not being GTK ;-)
I got Lay's Salted next to me; and cocal cola
._.
lucky you...
almost empty :*
Yikes! My hdd failed now on 10.10 livecd
finds 11.04 disc
is preparing @Amithkk's pudding
ooh good
14:24
smells nice but still too hot...
hope kids don't like it so I can eat it all myself
goes for another ice cream
:) glad you like it
abcd, efg
WHERE IS MY 11.04 CD? Aaahhh
@RolandTaylor askubuntu.com/questions/51525/… have we ever had a win/lin flame war on AU?
14:30
I'm also looking at this Q and was wondering...
well the answer is: it does not matter ;-)
It does matter - if they stick to Windows they will not ask here any more
Hi @IDWMaster :)
Hi
Which would provide the best performance; running Windows as a Virtual Machine inside Ubuntu, or vice versa, and why?
@IDWMaster you should give precise details what you want to do with that machine
it really depends on the applications
Tries to recover
14:33
I'm getting a new computer as a server/workstation (I'm a small business) and need to be able to run both Ubuntu applications (and sometimes games) and Windows applications (such as Internet Information Services) on the same computer.
@Rinzwind not yet :D
I also develop for mobile platforms such as Windows Phone 7, so I need USB support within the Virtual Machine, but I hear that VirtualBox provides that
We normally close such questions :P
@RolandTaylor good :D so basically the warnig is not needed in the question? >:-D
Virtualbox OSE dosent work
the non open source does have usb support
14:34
@IDWMaster main drawback of Windows in VBox is the lack of 3D support
So there's no DirectX emulation?
Even in the closed-source version?
@Amithkk that's wrong from >4.0 they support USB 1.0 even in OSE
The PUEL version supports USB 2.0
where does apache store its configs
Kvitova 2 points away from a wimbledon win \o/
@IDWMaster there is but it's not complete and slow. Games won't run e.g.
14:36
booo
@Rinzwind basically the question shouldn't exist :P... @TheX \o/
@Takkat So for now; I need to run Ubuntu in the virtual machine?
If I want 3D?
No, read my answer :)
@IDWMaster my recommedation would be to boot the OS you are preferably in and use the other in VBox
+1 Roland
14:38
If your apps need 3D do as @RolandTaylor suggests: dual boot
OK. I'll probably end up running Ubuntu in Windows, because I do need 3D support in both operating systems, and I can't suffer from downtime that would result from rebooting in a dual-boot configuration.
It would be really nice if VM technology allowed people to just seamlessly switch between to operating systems, without favoring one over the other. Apparently the technology just isn't quite there yet.
well 3D support for Ubuntu is also not the best in VBox...
@IDWMaster if you have a decent computer it will take less time to reboot in a dual boot config, then it would using virtual machines...
However; ANY amount of time rebooting a server (also used as a workstation) can cause a loss of profit in a small business environment.
@IDWMaster isn't quite? LOL... the technology is already here, but its just not used in most operating systems. There is a bit of a challenge in running two OS's at the same time on the same chip/cores, with the same resources.
14:40
it takes my computer about 30-45 secs to have a working OS, after rebooting from start to finish
If I'd run a server (I don't) I'd probably choose Ubuntu to do so.
same here...
I need to use ASP.NET applications for certain customers though
So I have to use IIS for the time being.
BTW, I was in a business similar to that situation, but we would use different systems. You really don't want to be using a virtual system in that kind of situation.
Besides, if you are running a server, you should only have to reboot to install updates, which come once a month from MS, and and on Ubuntu don't usually require a reboot...
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14:41
and this is why we have more than 1 server at work: sco, centos, ubuntu and windows are all different machines
So reboot at night when no one is working or if there are people working, production is already at a min.
I don't have that kind of money.
To run multiple servers. I can only afford one for the time being.
@IDWMaster: you should really try out if the 3D support for Windows in VBox may be sufficient for your needs.
Good idea. I'll experiment and see what works best.
Thanks!
14:42
:D
Windows can run better on most VMs, although the same could be argued for Ubuntu because you can strip Ubuntu down quite a bit...
he's gone Roland
still doesn't understand what 3D games have to do with work
Why do you need a server with 2, os's anyuways?
@Rinzwind I realized :P - but that had to be said XD
@TheX beats me
14:43
@TheX beats me too
what is it that linux, or windows can't do that the other can?
When we had to deal with that situation it was only for a short time to transition from one to another
running customers apps i guess
well linux + msie is not the best friends ;)
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found
14:44
eaten
I have to go, I didn't realize what time it was
tsk I do not let time rule my departures >:-D
Someone else is ruling my departure...
I am just a cog in this torture system
Puppeteers?
any haye fans in here?
14:48
@Takkat cooled?
not yet... it was really hot! takes maybe another hour or so...
@htorque: boxing?
what did he say?
i don't follow the trash-talking
he'll learn why they call klitschko steelhammer today :P
:)
> David Haye ready to 'blast' Wladimir Klitschko in world title fight The Guardian
won't work!
14:55
at least haye will be a worthy opponent
both klitschkos fought only noobs over the past years
They make money with their history - so why risk it?
hi @all :D
im stoked about the python class :P
haha
¡Hola @Alvar
@Takkat ? not in germany? :O
how did you find out?
14:58
"Hola"
;)
you're still in Sweden?
always
;)
forever?
kind of
well it would be awesome going to the alps in the middle of summer, biking
my wife drives a Volvo - we like Sweden!
14:59
haha :D
Best cars of the wolrd (at least until recently)
hehe
some kids that are like 16 take a Volvo and registered as a tractor.. stupid people...
...
There are a lot of germans in sweden, some are stealing moose signs! ;)
It's a Porsche!
Every now and then I see some characters sent to tty1 (see attached screenshot). It even seems to try to login... I'm getting this on two different up-to-date Oneiric systems. I'm not sure if that's caused by lightdm but that's my best guess. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.10 Package: lightdm 0.4.0-0ubuntu5 Uname: Linux 3.0.0-rc1-light x86_64 Architecture: amd64 Date: Sun Jun 26 22:42:37 2011 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 11.04 "Natty Narwhal" - Alpha amd64 (20110112) ProcEnviron: LANGUAGE=en_US:en PATH=(custom, no user) LANG=en_US.utf8 LC_MESSAGES=en_US.utf8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: lightdm UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)
lightdm (Ubuntu)
Critical / Triaged
>:(
it crashes X out of nowhere all the time
@Takkat LOL
15:04
a lot of germans in sweden?
oh noes!
too many :P
i thought about moving to sweden
2
love it!
why didnt u? ;)
it's not so hot, cold in the winter, and the women are hot-hot-hot :P
maybe some time...
@htorque nice there is a patch!
15:05
move to "skåne" where I'm...
not so cold in the winter
but not if there are lots of germans :P
but "hot" in the sumemr
we have liek 25 now
more than here :(
that's a gdm patch
@htorque most of the germans go to the middle of sweden or so
@Takkat but we have like 90% humidity right now so it fells like 32...
I have a big fan in my face now :P
15:06
alcohol is very expensive in scandinavia, right?
yeah
good
quite big tax on that
less alcoholics
:D
:D
15:07
@htorque I understand now - won't work with lighdm of course :/
fast internet! :)
@Amithkk ?
WTH is wrong?
@Takkat you can configure lightdm to start on a specific virtual terminal - i tried that now, we'll see
15:08
good idea
why no space its there right
@Amithkk wtf did u switch places on cd/usb?
may be write protected?
No i didnt
strange
what hardware is the usb?
15:09
Genereic
how much space should it have?
are ther other data on it? If not -> Erase!
Wait a sec
@Takkat just formatted now
salvages magnet from hdd
neodymium magnet
be careful with those
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A: How can I create a bootable USB disk from a CD image?

Octavian DamieanYou can use UNetbootin . Select Diskimage and browse to the ISO files location. Make sure that the right USB drive is selected and then hit OK. This will create a bootable USB drive off the provided image.

this might help u
15:16
done
oh nooo the platters were made of some kinda mirror
and it broke
there is no better mirrors than those in hard disks
back again :)
15:34
so don't put your fingers in between such magnets :P
outch!
but luckily the harddsik magnets are a bit smaller..
notices that nowbody knows that im having 5 magnets already
\o\ BRB
oops
It hurts definitely.
What is wrong with my Ubuntu download? http://bit.ly/kW7Otj #bootloader
Charlie has a hard time choosing questions nowadays...
15:44
Who is Charlie?
I'm not a real person Charlie
It's is the Tweetybeety that picks Q from here...
What is Tweetybeety ?
tweets frequently and we have fun if he beats us with choosing nice questions
15:48
Oh! I see :)
Today there are few ppl around as seen from the view questions have
apart from us here in chat nobody else seem to be on AU
well - almost.
what is AU?
AU = Ask Ubuntu
it's a wonderful place called AskUbuntu
8
you put it in right words!
15:53
Ok
bbl
16:23
<--- is breaking head installing ubuntu
16:33
@DoR \o
DoR
DoR
o/
17:24
Has installed 10.10
\o/ - someone alive - Pudding tasty!
:D Imma gonna need a photo cuz mah mother dosent belive that it posted it on teh interwebs
to latez - all eaten :D
Kidz angry ?
Kids not hungry any more... Not hungry not angry :)
17:28
any suggestions
suggestions on what?
on teh pudding
Daughter says next time with caramel ;)
Caramel+Cornflour=not_good --from='experience'
Son does not discuss things like that...
(he is angry with me because I found out he cracked his sister's account)
17:31
cracked?
lol
(he's also angry because I found out he stole mum's netbook to play under the bed)
hmm one thing if ya use butter instead of ghee ya can use caramell
I had to use butter anyway - no ghee here. But cornflour!
goes to show ya that ubuntu is also good for food!
talking about snacks, imma gonna try and make tux cookies tommrrow
I imagine that's hard. When I make cookies all the design gets lost...
bbl
17:41
ok will keep in mind
do you have a Leyden Jar?
3
Q: Is infinity an odd or even number?

KevinMy 6 year old wants to know if infinity is an odd or even number. His 38 year old father is keen to know too.

^ no commet
DoR
DoR
WTF
That's why I hate math.
head explodes
Bugs mysteriously appear when you say, "Watch this!"
18:05
How do I install python 3.x in 11.04?
cant find it at the download page...
@StefanoPalazzo do u know?
@Alvar just type "sudo apt-get install python3"
aaaaaaaaaaaaaah....
@StefanoPalazzo \o
if you want to download the source code and install that, it's very easy as well
the sudo way is the easy way...
18:07
extract the source somewhere and run "./configure", "make", "sudo make altinstall"
@Alvar also run "sudo apt-get install python3-setuptools", so you can "sudo easy_install3" stuff from pypi.python.org
@StefanoPalazzo how can I make idle to use the 3.x version instead of the old 2.7?
do i have to remove the 2.7?
@Alvar you don't have to remove it, just install the 3.x version of idle: "sudo apt-get install idle3"
:)
LAWL
18:26
When will the next LTS version of Ubuntu be released? http://bit.ly/mIKKAr #release
19:16
Hello all.
@GeorgeEdison Hey, nice to see you!
heya George
Hi Flack. Hi @Rinzwind.
question about editing/approving editing
what does this show for you? askubuntu.com/review/suggested-edits
I get an edit pending for "Does Ubuntu have support for the TRIM command for use with SSD?"
you too?
"Page not found."
19:21
some dude edits a topic almost 1 year old... can I reject the edit based on the age of the answer?
Not if it's constructive and improves it.
well
I don't think age alone should be a factor.
5
ok
well it has me hmm somewhat you know. it itches >:-D
@GeorgeEdison millions of women think that way :D
19:24
how to explain :D
oh there are people \o/ Hi
heya Takkat
"people" might be doubtful :=D
might just be me and a load of bots
Rinzwind and bots
upgrading my virtual boxes - boring...
10 years ago the 1st bittorrent program was released \o/ \o/
10 years already? Unbelieveable - I am getting old...
19:36
if flackbot could download me my torrents I'd dump deluge :=D
How could a remote server download things for you...?
@flackbot download fairy tale 13
@Rinzwind I should probably try a little harder next time to figure out what that means...
20:03
time for a boxing match
bbl
cya
20:19
tagging classical music is a pain
that title: "Piano Sonata No. 16 In A Minor, D. 845 - 3. Scherzo (Allegro Vivace) - Trio (Un Poco Più Lento)"
the song is over when that scrolled one time on my mp3 player :D
20:39
open air boxing in germany - they gotta be kidding :D
o.o
why does that ^---- sound a bit like my novel -_-?
should I stop using dropbox for backups?
do you upload your stuff unencrypted? :-o
oh, that's tl;dr - i'm generation internet
@boxing bbl
lol yeah I do
cya htorque
21:04
haha, haye afraid to come out
should have entered the ring five minutes ago
21:16
Haye :-X
good fireworks show up to now :D :D
yeah, hope the fight will hold up to the expectations
@RolandTaylor yes unless encrypted... -> hardware.slashdot.org/story/11/07/02/0515218/…
@htorque unlikely :D they just claimed on RTL7 (dutch station) that Holland is the only one doing this match not behind a decoder O+
God save the Queen \o/ \o/
i hope haye gets knocked out in round 1, but may the better fighter win :)
god who?
KO after 10 seconds? >:-D
first punch → ko
21:20
I think alot of ppl would start rioting :D
here we go
oob - out of beer
bad planning htorque :-P
i thought it would start earlier :D
21:28
LOL
Haye is an idiot :-X
Recommendations for music games for children. http://bit.ly/iVZa48 #softwarerecommendation
yeah, but finally someone with a chance to beat a klitschko
21:49
Klitschko is going to win this. He's far ahead on points.
Unless Haye can open that wound :D :D
u sure?
yeah
i'd say it's a draw or even pro haye
you gotta know: i am a boxing pro - i read about it in wikipedia :D
and I also do not think it'll be a KO on either side
doesn't look good for klitschko imo
21:59
boring match though :D
Haye had some nice jabs :) :)
ADRIIIIIIIAAAAAAAAAAAN
don't ya know rocky?
haye should fix his shoes ^^
@htorque bassie! >:) bassie-adriaan.nl
@htorque lol ofc I do :D
the x was random :P
22:08
ha, every counting i hear of says something different - how's can that be an objective way to decide the winner?
they should continue till one gets knocked out
I agree!
continue till KO
yo! 10 count \o/
watching sound of noise :P
Haye needs a KO or he looses this...
white or pink noise?
@htorque just sound of noise
@htorque it's a swedish film! :)
Sound of Noise is a 2010 Swedish-French comedy-crime film written and directed by Ola Simonsson and Johannes Stjärne Nilsson. It tells the story of a group of musicians who illegally perform music on objects in the various institutions of a city. The film is a follow-up to the 2001 short film Music for One Apartment and Six Drummers, which was made by the same people and followed the same basic concept. The title comes from the Italian futurist Luigi Russolo's 1913 manifesto The Art of Noises. Plot Anarchistic musicians play in a hospital with a patient as drum, in a bank while shredding ...
22:12
was Kopps swedish
:P
boom
there might be english or german subtitles :P
nice hit from haye
yes several even in the last round :) :)
22:15
i think klitschko won
boring match :=D
wanna see a re-match though
I think so too
no, good fight
all other klitschko fights were boring :D
:D
dutch TV "if Haye wins this the judges are blind" >:-D
22:19
well, good night all :-)
@htorque Goodbye!
bai!
22:47
hi :P
@StefanoPalazzo @MarcoCeppi is there a way that I could download the chat classroom as a .pdf?
so if I would need later on I could just look back at the .pdf
@Rinzwind just noticed you are at the top of the weeks highscore! :D AWESOME :P

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