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12:02 AM

@Fabby Sorry for being absent from chatroom for such a long time. I've been doing a major coding project to extract gmail.com metadata and throw it into a scroll box with drill down. Right now coding to delete gmail messages each day based on algorithms.

Fabby

12:31 AM

@WinEunuuchs2Unix Best Bounty Hunters

WinEunuuchs2Unix

12:46 AM

@Fabby I'm kind of embarrassed how my bounty points put me ahead of Windy in Year to date points...lol

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy I've just started using: effbot.org/tkinterbook/tkinter-hello-tkinter.htm for making a calculator that uses T for trillion M for million in a calculator: medium.com/@adeyinkaadegbenro/…. Problem is font size is typically tiny on high resolution (HDPI) screen. Is there some sort of override you can put in Python to say make default font .05% of screen instead of 10 pt or whatever the default is?

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy In regards to this Question I posted last night which I will probably self-answer after christmas: askubuntu.com/questions/1098530/…

@Fabby Thanks for the Best Bounty Hunters link. I had no idea it was tracked like that. Too bad they didn't include points in the query.

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

1:16 AM

@WinEunuuchs2Unix No idea of the top of my head although it's certainly possible to get the display size, calculate percentage and then figure out what's the closest point value we could use. As for that number formatting question, look into numfmt command. I'll give you a hint: echo '1024k' | numfmt --from=iec --to=si

Btw, tht command is written from memory , not asserting the correctness

TheWanderer

1:57 AM

WinEunuuchs2Unix

3:32 AM

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy Thanks for clue on HDPI font size based on resolution. Sorry I was AFK last 90 minutes. My basic thought is regular calculator keypad on screen with two extra rows on top t b m k (Trillion Billion Million Kilobyte in si format) followed by Ti Bi Mi Ki (Terabyte, Gigabyte, Megabyte, Kilobyte in iec format). User would use lower case t for Trillion or uppercase T for Terabyte, etc. Really can't believe no one has made a human readable calculator yet.

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

3:58 AM

@WinEunuuchs2Unix Well, someone has made it already actually

Though you can make it as a script or desktop application which requires no internet :)

WinEunuuchs2Unix

4:32 AM

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy Haha who knew??? Excellent answer you should post on my question :) Not perfect because you have to key in 20TB/50MB for $20 trillion / 50 million tax payers but the answer works out to $400,000 each which is correct.

Fabby

7:41 AM

@WinEunuuchs2Unix I can modify the query...

Zanna

8:18 AM

:(

I am not happy that there is an untrue message about me on the starwall!

@terdon 6723 is a huge number of edits though!

lately I am finding the Biology SE extremely useful!

Fun fact: 2099 of my edits are from clicking Improve in the suggested edits queue.

another fun fact: I earned 344 points from suggested edits, and many of them were to tag wikis before I got 20k. I didn't become a prolific editor until I'd been a prolific site user for more than 6 months

even after that time, I didn't set out to be a prolific editor. I just fixed whatever I saw in need of fixing, once I'd learned the style conventions of the site

my highest priority in editing is making a title that actually leads to the information visitors will find on the page

but I think muru is the most prolific re-tagger. Thanks to muru's efforts, very many posts get tags that define their subjects and make them more findable

Zanna

9:03 AM

@TheWanderer so true. Pockets are a feminist issue

the reason they make such effing tiny pockets on women's clothes is so they don't spoil the view of our curves hahahaha

nothing will make me more likely to buy clothing than the fact that it has big pockets

I have been known to buy men's shorts

Yufenyuy Veyeh Dider

9:47 AM

@Fabby Hahahaha! Why the heck, no emojies here?

terdon

10:26 AM

No! Isn't it beautiful?

The lack of emojis is probably my favorite feature of SE chat!

The beauty of simple ASCII instead of the demented, grinning yellow faces you get everywhere these days.

Zanna

^

I suspect it's a generational thing. Folk 20 years older & 10 years younger than me love emojis hahaha

Journeyman Geek

🙀

GAZE UPON THY WORKS, O MIGHTY AND DESPAIR!

terdon

Our works?

Also, that's still black and white for me! Arch for the win!

Journeyman Geek

My works? The water works?

@terdon is it a box?

emojis "work" if you have full unicode support

terdon

Works perfectly :)

TheWanderer

10:54 AM

@Zanna running shorts ftw

I guess they're actually basketball shorts

Yufenyuy Veyeh Dider

@Zanna You're implying you hate them (emojis) ?

@terdon No!

Zanna

@TheWanderer yeaahh

@YufenyuyVeyehDider I find them ugly. I wouldn't say I hate them; it's not such a strong emotion

Yufenyuy Veyeh Dider

I see...

@Zanna Hahaha! talking about strong emotions.

Zanna

yes?

oh lol

I'm so slow

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Q: Ubuntu emergency mode shows up everytime

I have windows 10 and ubuntu 16.04 dualboot on my laptop. Suddenly linux stopped booting. I'm welcomed in the emergency mode and nothing helps to get through. The system is not able to boot and work even in recovery mode. I have tried already to perform fsck on system drive and boot-repair... I w...

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Yufenyuy Veyeh Dider

11:10 AM

@Zanna lol... Are you also a blogger?

Zanna

not really

haven't written in my blog for years :(

Yufenyuy Veyeh Dider

Oops!

But I think I have seen a Book titled "STRONG" by certain Zanna

Is that you?

;)

Zanna

no

I haven't written any books

there are some bizarre "off-topic" votes/flags atm

scripting questions, text processing questions, 3rd party software questions

and questions like this one...

Yufenyuy Veyeh Dider

@Zanna Hmm

I need 3k rep to review such

Zanna

yes

Yufenyuy Veyeh Dider

11:23 AM

I mean close votes

btw we've been members for the same length of time

how did you gin rep so fast?

What's your secret?

Zanna

@YufenyuyVeyehDider I wasn't suggesting you personally should do something about that problem. Just mentioning as general moan to the whole room haha

the way to gain rep is to spend a lot of time trying to answer questions :)

unfortunately I am not really answering questions these days :(

I don't mind about the rep - I have all the privileges

but if I made the effort I might make some useful contributions

Yufenyuy Veyeh Dider

@Zanna I got it.

Zanna

these days I am just janitoring - letting others do the hard work

trying to focus on some other work

terdon

@YufenyuyVeyehDider I take it you are under 30? :)

Yufenyuy Veyeh Dider

@Zanna Hahaha

Journeyman Geek

11:27 AM

@terdon my mom uses more emoji than I

I mostly use them to be ironic.

terdon

@YufenyuyVeyehDider She has 716 answers and 24 questions and you have 35 answers and 18 questions. That's her secret :)

Journeyman Geek

(I have 100k on another site...)

Yufenyuy Veyeh Dider

@terdon Yeah..?

terdon

@JourneymanGeek True, so does mine. As @Zanna said:

57 mins ago, by Zanna

I suspect it's a generational thing. Folk 20 years older & 10 years younger than me love emojis hahaha

Journeyman Geek

@YufenyuyVeyehDider personally? try to post one answer a day

its ok to take cheat days

you'd have more rep than you know what to do with eventually

terdon

11:28 AM

@YufenyuyVeyehDider Just playing. The generation before me and the one after me (I'm 38) seem to love them some emoji.

Yufenyuy Veyeh Dider

@Zanna True... I need to grab that aspect too.

Zanna

of course, the privileges basically give you moderation abilities. Many people aren't interested in those and don't use them. That's fine.

Yufenyuy Veyeh Dider

:) Hahahaha! That makes me laugh, really?
were you ironic with the use of that emoji ":)" too?

terdon

Yep: askubuntu.com/users/527764/zanna

And: askubuntu.com/users/531149/yufenyuy-veyeh-dider

Zanna

true fact. there's no secret except writing stuff

terdon

11:32 AM

@YufenyuyVeyehDider No, I'm fine with the text based ones. I just really dislike the "feature" where some programs convert :) into horrible, brightly colored images.

Zanna

I feel the same as terdon - I like ASCII emojis and use them all the time

terdon

As for @Zanna and her rep, also bear in mind that she went on a learning spree. As I recall she barely knew what sed was when she first joined and used questions as an opportunity to go learn the answer: she didn't just answer stuff she knew, she answered stuff she didn't know by sitting down and figuring it out.

Which is the best way to use these sites.

Zanna

yep^

Yufenyuy Veyeh Dider

@JourneymanGeek Really?

terdon

Yep. After you get all possible privileges and then pass the 100k line (which gets you some present) rep doesn't seem as important as it was.

karel

11:35 AM

A blatantly and boldly wrong duplicate question was used to close this question, so it should be reopened. VTR.

Zanna

the kind of question I like best is a problem I only have a dim idea of how to solve

terdon

> Installing the GRUB bootloader on the USB flash drive will replace the existing GRUB bootloader on the hard drive which you don't want to do, unless you disconnect the cables to your hard drive(s) first before you start the Ubuntu installer to do a full installation of Ubuntu on a USB flash drive.

@karel huh?

Why would placing grub on the flash drive affect the existing one on the HDD?

Yufenyuy Veyeh Dider

@Zanna Okay.

karel

I can't describe how wrong this sort of thing is without violating the CoC.

Yufenyuy Veyeh Dider

@karel What's CoC, please?

terdon

11:38 AM

@karel yes, that's a bad dupe, but your answer seems very wrong as well, at least in the point I raise above.

More importnatly, the OP has already installed, the question is basically asking how to boot from the pendrive.

Journeyman Geek

@YufenyuyVeyehDider you get swag at 100 and 250k

@karel @terdon actually....

Yufenyuy Veyeh Dider

@terdon Nice... Good lesson.

Journeyman Geek

the ubuntu bootloader is a bit iffy there

terdon

@YufenyuyVeyehDider Code of conduct. askubuntu.com/conduct

Journeyman Geek

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Q: Getting *buntu 17.04 (or others) to respect my choices when installing to a external drive UEFI/secureboot system

I'm trying to install Lubuntu or Kubuntu 17.04 to an external drive. I'm using a IODD 2451 booting an ISO, and installing to an emulated phyical drive backed by a VHD. For all intents and purposes - I'm installing from a livecd/dvd to a regular external hard drive that my firmware detects as a bo...

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terdon

11:39 AM

@JourneymanGeek how so?

Journeyman Geek

@terdon more or less it'll always just install to the first drive there, no matter where your install location is

least with 17.04

terdon

What? Seriously? The Ubuntu installer doesn't ask you where to install grub?

It certainly used to!

Journeyman Geek

@terdon and installs it where it wants to anyway

terdon

Wha? I don't even...

WHA?

Yufenyuy Veyeh Dider

@Zanna (y)

karel

11:41 AM

@terdon If Ubuntu is already installed on his USB and it doesn't run as the question states, then it probably was not installed correctly on the USB. Otherwise it would run correctly from the USB, so my answer was not wrong. Maybe the OP copy/pasted the .iso on the USB and now expects it to run from the USB.

Journeyman Geek

@terdon I had a major headache with this - and ended up just finding a PC with no other drive and secureboot and doing the thing

might be fixed now IDK

my only local linux system runs nothing else

terdon

@karel But where are you telling the OP how to boot from the USB drive? The first half of your answer seems to be explaining the various types of USB drives, and the second explains how to install. Neither of those seems relevant to someone who has already installed and is asking how to boot from the drive they've installed on.

Can Ubuntu even run correctly on a FAT32 drive, by the way?

Journeyman Geek

so what the person who said that would be right, just in a specific frame of reference

@terdon errrrr probably not

terdon

> I have Ubuntu installed on my USB (FAT32). Now how do I run it from the USB without deleting C: drive?

That's the entire question.

Journeyman Geek

sounds like he ran rufus

which would actually let you do that,after a fashion

terdon

11:45 AM

Hmm, possibly. This was back in '15.

karel

If the OP thinks he installed it and it doesn't wrong that would indicate that it was either not installed or else installed incorrectly. That's why it doesn't run, so it needs to be installed correctly in order to run correctly.

@JourneymanGeek The OP thinks he installed an operating system on a USB drive, however that operating system does not run. The question did not mention a live session, which would not have any effect on the C:, drive, so it appears that the OP is talking about a full installation on the USB drive that went wrong.

terdon

@karel That's a pretty big assumption though. It seems more likely that either i) OP didn't install the boot loader or ii) OP didn't set the BIOS to boot from the USB.

Yufenyuy Veyeh Dider

@JourneymanGeek True.

@terdon Yes, I have done this... y OS was 14.04 by then.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@Fabby If you modified the query by points that would be fantastic!

terdon

@YufenyuyVeyehDider Really? And weren't there issues with file permissions?

Are you sure you were running on a FAT32 partition?

Yufenyuy Veyeh Dider

11:59 AM

I was using a thumb drive.

Maybe I'm mistaking Live USB for it...

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5:07 PM

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6:08 PM

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Fabby

6:32 PM

@YufenyuyVeyehDider Sure there are!

:-) ;-) ]:(:)

Rinzwind

boo

Fabby

@WinEunuuchs2Unix Top 20 Bounty hunters per # of bounties and rep gained

@Rinzwind :D You got it, you old fart!

Ask Ubuntu Meta

7:11 PM

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Q: How is it that an OP with a rep of 1 can edit and add text to my answer

I posted at somewhat lengthy answer to an OP's original question, and later found out that the OP had edited my answer and added a whole bunch of unnecessary text. I rejected the edit. How can the OP with a rep of 1 edit/add to my answer?

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7:53 PM

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Q: Wrong screen resolution after sleeping Ubuntu

After my lenovo T480s connected to a Benq 4k display wakes from sleep, my resolution goes to 1080p, unplugging and plugging the display back in resets it to 4k. (This doesn't always happen, but I find usually it does when the laptop automatically sleeps) I checked out xrandr after waking and thi...

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9:27 PM

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Q: Why is askUbuntu setup to discourage users from participating?

For awhile now I have noticed askUbuntu has a system of PFO in place. The system I have experienced does not allow me to post or answer questions unless I have 50 reputation points. The system suggests I should answer some questions in order to get a reputation. Your system looks like it is here ...

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10:24 PM

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Q: using enivronment variables in collectd.conf

I want to provide different directory than BaseDir for the DataDir in Plugin rrdtool. I want to use environment variables. Is it possible to do that? How?

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TheWanderer

11:12 PM

PHP 5 released! *checks notes* Sorry, five PHPs released! 5.6.39: http://php.net/archive/2018.php#id2018-12-06-2 7.0.33: http://php.net/archive/2018.php#id2018-12-06-5 7.1.25: http://php.net/archive/2018.php#id2018-12-06-4 7.2.13: http://php.net/archive/2018.php#id2018-12-06-3 7.3.0: http://php.net/archive/2018.php#id2018-12-06-1

Tweeted by official_php on December 6, 2018 at 9:41 PM

This is why people don't like PHP

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11:24 PM

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WinEunuuchs2Unix

11:49 PM

@Fabby That's interesting. When sorted (in your mind) by points earned you get a different perspective. For bounty hunters the points are what counts more than the number of bounties won as is the current sort order.

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