Ask Ubuntu General Room

Kaz Wolfe

12:00 AM

Zenity is. Yad is not.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I thought Yad was not like in 12.04 days... I honestly don't remember installing it.

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

yad requires installation. Zenity is default on Ubuntu, but not Lubuntu

Yad may have been installed as dependency automatically for some other programs you used

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Hmmm...oh well it's not defaulted... maybe it's the PPA I'm thinking of.

Nathan Osman

Now. @KazWolfe. Back to my original question.

(Remember, before the excitement?)

49 mins ago, by Nathan Osman

Kaz Wolfe

yes.

Nathan Osman

12:01 AM

:)

Kaz Wolfe

please post the MCVE

Nathan Osman

I will repaste it now :D

WinEunuuchs2Unix

#PrayForSaintPetersburg (my good deed for the day).

Nathan Osman

<TextView
    android:id="@+id/transfer_device"
    android:textAppearance="@android:style/TextAppearance.Medium"
    android:layout_width="wrap_content"
    android:layout_height="wrap_content"/>

Kaz Wolfe

That shouldn't have a color assigned to it.

Nathan Osman

12:02 AM

That's what I'm thinking...

Kaz Wolfe

but do check your styles.xml to see if it's being overrridden

Nathan Osman

<resources>

    <!-- Base application theme. -->
    <style name="AppTheme" parent="Theme.AppCompat.Light.DarkActionBar">
        <!-- Customize your theme here. -->
        <item name="colorPrimary">@color/colorPrimary</item>
        <item name="colorPrimaryDark">@color/colorPrimaryDark</item>
        <item name="colorAccent">@color/colorAccent</item>
    </style>

</resources>

Nope.

Kaz Wolfe

If it's still happening, I'd take a look at any rendering code to make sure it's not adding whiteness as a parameter

Nathan Osman

Good thinking.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

$ sudo apt list | grep yad

WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.

libyade/xenial 1.20.0-7 amd64
libyadifa-dev/xenial 2.1.6-1 amd64
phpmyadmin/xenial-updates,xenial-updates 4:4.5.4.1-2ubuntu2 all
python-yade/xenial 1.20.0-7 amd64
visualboyadvance/xenial 1.8.0.dfsg-3 amd64
visualboyadvance-gtk/xenial 1.8.0.dfsg-3 amd64
yad/xenial,now 0.37.0-1~webupd8~xenial0 amd64 [installed,automatic]
yade/xenial 1.20.0-7 amd64
yade-doc/xenial,xenial 1.20.0-7 all
yadifa/xenial 2.1.6-1 amd64

^^^ It says automatically installed?

sorry I don't know apt that well :(

Kaz Wolfe

12:05 AM

one second

Run apt-cache rdepends yad, @WinEunuuchs2Unix

Android Dev

@NathanOsman What's the issue?

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

silentcast

That's what depends on yad

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@Seth I just want to say again how much I love your silentcast app I've used it a few times and I'm using it again for my 20kb bash application. The gif file size is incredibly small!

Kaz Wolfe

It might also be using white as a default color, @NathanOsman. In which case, find how the other text renders properly (manually defined color) and copy that.

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

@WinEunuuchs2Unix you installed silentcast , and that depends on yad. That's how you got it. Automatically

WinEunuuchs2Unix

12:06 AM

whoaaa @SergiyKolodyazhnyy we double posted!

Nathan Osman

@KazWolfe It's weird cuz I have another TextView in another layout and it works fine.

56 mins ago, by Nathan Osman

Kaz Wolfe

I know, and it has no different properties?

WinEunuuchs2Unix

ok well now that I think about it I vaguely recall I may have learned about yad via Silentcast sheepish grin

Kaz Wolfe

@WinEunuuchs2Unix sheepish, you say?

Nathan Osman

@KazWolfe I'll take another look, but I don't think so.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

12:08 AM

@KazWolfe uh oh I see a WOLF!!!!

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

@KazWolfe this is not the sheep you're looking for

Kaz Wolfe

@WinEunuuchs2Unix 30 second head start. Go.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

sudo gedit wolf-go-away

Android Dev

@NathanOsman Can't you just define a color attribute for the text view in your activity's XML file?

Nathan Osman

I can but I can't figure out why it isn't using the default color...

Android Dev

12:09 AM

Let's nuke this: askubuntu.com/questions/899908/…

WinEunuuchs2Unix

<<<< He's 255 points away from mod tools Wolf-like-grin

Android Dev

(Mint) --^

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Sometimes we nuke Mint sometimes we don't.... I forget is this Mint-off or Mint-On day?

Kaz Wolfe

We nuke Mint when the problem can be related to Mint. We don't nuke Mint when Mint is irrelevant (for example, an issue with firefox will not be closed).

Android Dev

Well, we can at least close it

Seth

12:10 AM

@WinEunuuchs2Unix I'm glad you like it :D

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Ok today is Mint-Flip-a-Coin-Day

Android Dev

@Seth - Woah, that was a fast migrate :)

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

Who cares about Mint. Bacon is what matters !

Seth

Mint is always off-topic.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@Seth I don't like Silentcast I LOVE IT!!!!

Seth

12:11 AM

:)

Kaz Wolfe

@Seth Mint is always off-topic, but we do discreetly take Mint out some times.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Minty Bacon should be ok I think according to Serg. We could edit the question and put the word Bacon in there....

Kaz Wolfe

@WinEunuuchs2Unix Do that and every mod will be on your throat.

As well as every 10k user

Android Dev

@NathanOsman, Do you know off the top of your head how to show a file chooser dialog in Android?

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@KazWolfe Oh sure get me banned just as 10K was sooo close bye bye mod tools

Seth

12:12 AM

@KazWolfe yep. it's all about quality.

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

i seriously just wanna get up and leave the lecture

this is depressing

Seth

nothing stopping you. People do that all the time.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

In a way you left the lecture and came into AU general chat room :)

You virtually left to the right place

Kaz Wolfe

@WinEunuuchs2Unix We don't ban users, usually.

The mods might throw you into time-out for a year, but that's not a ban.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Remind me to post Steven Penny profile again

Kaz Wolfe

12:15 AM

I don't even know if a permaban is possible? (cc @Seth)

Nathan Osman

@AndroidDev For opening a file in another app?

WinEunuuchs2Unix

who is "we" are you a mod now?

Seth

GRRRR. Facebook has sent me THREE "so and so has done something you absolutely don't care about" IN THE LAST FOUR HOURS

Nathan Osman

@Seth You should see Twitter's defaults...

Kaz Wolfe

@WinEunuuchs2Unix SE high-rep users, and I'm working on it :)

WinEunuuchs2Unix

12:16 AM

God save us all :p

Android Dev

@NathanOsman Well, actually I would want to read it as a byte[ ], but yes

Seth

@KazWolfe define perma.. If you're really that much of a hassle I can get you put away til 2030 or so. But I can't do that myself, no.

Nathan Osman

@AndroidDev Wait, so your app is the one providing the image or opening it?

Seth

In internet years 2030 is an eternity away.

Kaz Wolfe

@Seth Perma as in "actually permanent, you are not allowed to come back here for as long as you live, and a bit longer than that."

Nathan Osman

12:17 AM

@Seth Remember Y2K? Wait until we overflow time_t in 2038.

Seth

no idea, but probably not.

Android Dev

@NathanOsman Opening it. For example, I would want to show a file chooser dialog to the user, and then read to contents of the file they chose into a byte array

WinEunuuchs2Unix

The Arcnet was actually invented in the 1960's or something for Universities and Defense Department but went pretty much unused until mid 90's.

Nathan Osman

@AndroidDev Ah, Android doesn't have such a dialog :( You'll have to create a simple file chooser.

Android Dev

@NathanOsman What about this? It seems to me that I see a lot of apps using this: github.com/iPaulPro/aFileChooser

Kaz Wolfe

12:19 AM

@NathanOsman Really? I thought you could use a file chooser, and just grab the File, and then read that into a byte buffer?

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Some guy created .www for world wide web and then Arcnet took off and became Internet.

Seth

@NathanOsman This isn't even the defaults.. That's as conservative as I could get it without unsubscribing from events on my posts and mentions.

Nathan Osman

@KazWolfe Other apps can send an Intent that causes your app to receive a file.

Feeds

We are starting our maintenance. (RUN FOR COVER!!!)

Nathan Osman

@AndroidDev That looks like a good choice.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

12:20 AM

@Feeds Does that mean chat is going down?

Nathan Osman

in Android on Stack Overflow Chat, 7 mins ago, by Dave S

@WinEunuuchs2Unix No.

At least not if they do things correctly.

Kaz Wolfe

@NathanOsman savage af

Nathan Osman

:D

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Phew... I was trying to procrastinate writing Q&A by typing in chat.

TheWanderer

@NathanOsman pls stop abusing pwr

Kaz Wolfe

12:21 AM

@TheWanderer ohai

Nathan Osman

@TheWanderer That's not really abuse...

TheWanderer

oops

@NathanOsman everitin iz abuse

Nathan Osman

@TheWanderer Duly noted.

TheWanderer

i cri evritiem

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Nathan put the plug "RUN FOR COVER" into that feed message???

TheWanderer

12:22 AM

@WinEunuuchs2Unix he replaced the whole tweet

Kaz Wolfe

Don't worry, @TheWanderer, he created a ACE vuln in his userscript.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Wow... so much power

Kaz Wolfe

anyone could execute arbitrary javascript on your computer through his chat script.

Nathan Osman

@KazWolfe Le sigh.

TheWanderer

can I just type @NathanOsman sudo rm -rf / now?

Kaz Wolfe

12:23 AM

@NathanOsman I WANT MY SECHAT HAXOR SHIRT

Nathan Osman

It has been fixed.

TheWanderer

hue

Nathan Osman

Hue to you too.

@TheWanderer Hey, I preserved the original content at least.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

why the name change Zachree1?... Did people have problems spelling it?

Kaz Wolfe

Wander is his <redacted>, iirc

Android Dev

12:24 AM

@WinEunuuchs2Unix Serg changed his name too

WinEunuuchs2Unix

It took me 6 months to spell Zachree1

Nathan Osman

I haven't changed mine. Costs too much to get all my identification redone.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Serg is using his full name, it was already published in Github where he linked to.

Kaz Wolfe

I just use autocomplete.

Nathan Osman

Me too.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

12:25 AM

Oh well I can't even spell my own name... I have to look at my profile to figure it out.

Kaz Wolfe

Then why did you choose that name?

Nathan Osman

You are all allowed to call me "Bob" if you want.

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

Well, if I'm going to be professional AF , I should use my full name

Android Dev

Yeah I was going to say, yours isn't easy to spell either, @WinEunuuchs2Unix

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I was pissed off at Windows one day so I downloaded Ubuntu and created this name.

Kaz Wolfe

12:26 AM

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy You? Professional? HAH!

4

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

@NathanOsman OK, Bob, you got it

Nathan Osman

@KazWolfe Ouch.

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

@KazWolfe IKR ? but I'm trying

Kaz Wolfe

@NathanOsman Alright, Robert.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

But I plan to get Windows 10 with Ubuntu Bash in 18 months so I'll change my name to WinWithUnix.

Nathan Osman

12:27 AM

Maybe "Hacker McHackface" is more appropriate given today's events.

Kaz Wolfe

@WinEunuuchs2Unix your name still makes no sense. why even mention eunuchs, for example?

WinEunuuchs2Unix

You know what Eunuuchs are?

Kaz Wolfe

Yes.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Well Windows limits your potential as a man

Kaz Wolfe

If you say it's a pun, I swear to god I am going to get elected mod and kick you from this room. And then resign

WinEunuuchs2Unix

12:28 AM

Unix gives you power.

I switched from Windows that limited me to Unix which empowered me.

See?

Kaz Wolfe

o.... k.

Seth

@KazWolfe things like this are the kind of things that won't get you elected..

Kaz Wolfe

@Seth My sense of humor is too dry, I agree.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I thought the name made sense and everyone would understand....

Journeyman Geek

@KazWolfe On SU, the worst we ever threaten someone with is... mocking.

Android Dev

12:30 AM

techcrunch.com/2017/04/03/statcounter-android-windows

Journeyman Geek

@NathanOsman there's too many bobs ._.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

So Journeyman got mocked on SU and took the path to AU :D

Kaz Wolfe

@JourneymanGeek Kicks are nicer imo. Mockery can span a lifetime, but a kick expires after 5 minutes

Journeyman Geek

@WinEunuuchs2Unix you misunderstand.

I am the one who mocks.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I was teasing....mocking in a way :p

Journeyman Geek

12:31 AM

@KazWolfe mockery is not an abuse of power.

Feeds

We have completed our work. No user impact detected (You can resume viewing your regularly scheduled cat pictures now.)

Android Dev

Attempt to reply: askubuntu.com/review/suggested-edits/695516

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@Feeds RUN BACK

Kaz Wolfe

@JourneymanGeek No, you clearly don't know who you're talking to, so let me clue you in. I am not in danger, Serg. I am the danger. A guy opens his door and gets humiliated and you think that of me? No. I am the one who mocks!

Journeyman Geek

@KazWolfe I've actually not watched past the first two episodes of that.

Kaz Wolfe

12:33 AM

@JourneymanGeek hey, i take power seriously even if i joke around with it a bit much.

Journeyman Geek

@KazWolfe I don't take power seriously. I take the effects of it seriously ;)

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I think truly powerful people don't need to discuss their power

Kaz Wolfe

counter-example: Trump

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Well maybe when you've been drinking there can be the odd slip of the tongue or sentence on the keyboard.

Android Dev

Why is this still around?

-17

Q: i need help to crack wifi password on ubuntu 14.04

I need some help guys please , im at school and need wifi, there is a lot on my complex but I need passwords

14.04

luk3yx

12:35 AM

Why have I just earned 100 reputation on all the SE sites?

Android Dev

@luk3yx Association bonus?

WinEunuuchs2Unix

not ALL sites, just the ones you join.

Kaz Wolfe

Which is why I don't drink.

@AndroidDev Because I want 9 more upvotes for a badge.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

People shouldn't drink, smoke or exceed the posted speed limit.

Seth

@luk3yx askubuntu.com/help/whats-reputation read under "you gain reputation when" (last paragraph in that heading)

Kaz Wolfe

12:36 AM

...

Nathan Osman

@AndroidDev ...and it's gone.

Kaz Wolfe

SERG

Android Dev

@NathanOsman Did Seth nuke it?

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

@KazWolfe oops, sorry. I only noticed your answer after deletion

Android Dev

@KazWolfe Nice redaction ;)

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

12:36 AM

I'll make it up to you later @KazWolfe

Nathan Osman

@AndroidDev Nope, Serg did.

Kaz Wolfe

;-;

Android Dev

@NathanOsman Wait, but Serg isn't a mod

luk3yx

@Seth, @AndroidDev, Thanks.

Kaz Wolfe

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy b-but mah reversal

Nathan Osman

12:37 AM

@AndroidDev If three normal users vote to delete, it auto-deletes.

Android Dev

Oh. Do you have to have 10k to VTD?

that ^

20k

Yes.

the said yesterday

12:37 AM

10k.

Android Dev

So is it 20 or 10?

WinEunuuchs2Unix

someone lend me 245 then:p

Kaz Wolfe

20k just expands delete powers. You get them at 10k

WinEunuuchs2Unix

or I could finish this project since March 17th and get 3 upvotes

Kaz Wolfe

i am happy deleted answers don't nuke rep, though.

2

that would make me very sad.

but badge...

Android Dev

12:39 AM

@KazWolfe +1 :)

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Don't feed the wolf he's going to ban me!

lol...j/k

Kaz Wolfe

No, that would be an abuse of power. I need a reason to ban you, first.

On that note, onwards to 25k.

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

i'm questioning my sanity now

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@KazWolfe @ByteCommander said nothing happens at 25k

Kaz Wolfe

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy Welcome to the club. Other prominient members: Seth, @NathanOsman, @ThomasWard (definitely him), Mateo, and a few more.

@WinEunuuchs2Unix He's lying.

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

12:41 AM

ohthx

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I was in this room when he hit it and upvoted him to it.

It was like in December or something.

Rather exciting really.... one of the few chat room events you don't forget.

For myself I have a bottle of champagne in the fridge for a month I'll open at 10k :D

Kaz Wolfe

25k really doesn't have anything in terms of mod power.

just site analytics

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Oh well I wrote a bash script to scrape the site... that's enough analytics for me.

which I'm supposed to be writing the Q&A on but I'm procrastinating instead

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

@NathanOsman do you know much about licensing software ?

Kaz Wolfe

Fake lawyer here.

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

12:46 AM

Android Dev

@WinEunuuchs2Unix Well, you could always do what this guy did :P askubuntu.com/questions/758857/give-me-reputation

Kaz Wolfe

@AndroidDev He can't see that, lol.

Wait, how can you?

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@AndroidDev Your link is "Page not found"

Android Dev

@KazWolfe I can't. It's in my flagging history :D

Kaz Wolfe

Ah.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

12:48 AM

you know there is a meta post if you reveal mod tools they'll have to kill you....

Kaz Wolfe

Android Dev

@WinEunuuchs2Unix --^

Kaz Wolfe

there you go, @WinEunuuchs2Unix.

Android Dev

Thanks @KazWolfe :)

Kaz Wolfe

np

WinEunuuchs2Unix

12:49 AM

thanks for double sub-woofer thunks... mutes tab

Kaz Wolfe

@WinEunuuchs2Unix You're welcome.

@WinEunuuchs2Unix Glad you enjoyed it.

Android Dev

Hey what does the "timeline" button do?

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Time to replace np (no problem) with nw (no worries).

Kaz Wolfe

@AndroidDev Magic.

It's a mod tool, actually.

Android Dev

@KazWolfe I don't have it. Is that a 10k thing?

Kaz Wolfe

12:50 AM

Nope.

Android Dev

But you aren't a mod

Kaz Wolfe

You can't get it from rep, actually. I sorta hacked it in :)

Android Dev

Care to share? :)

Kaz Wolfe

here's a screenshot:

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Kaz is author of "Wolf Bot"

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

12:51 AM

he googled it

Kaz Wolfe

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

that's what we all do lol

Android Dev

@KazWolfe Cool! So how did you "hack it in"?

Kaz Wolfe

it's just a consolidated history of (almost) everything that happened with a post. It doesn't show you anything you can't see anyways (the real mod timeline does)

It's a URL assigned to every post. Like how /revisions is a thing, so is /timeline

Android Dev

@KazWolfe Ah. So it's like the hack that allowed <10k users to edit deleted questions?

Kaz Wolfe

12:53 AM

somewhat similar, yes.

I do get to see review audits from here, though.

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

140

Q: List of unlinked pages on Stack Exchange sites

Here is a list of special, unlinked pages (they may be linked in questions and answers) on Stack Exchange sites. Most pages listed here are work in progress or legacy. Currently, this list is incomplete. If you know more of them, add them to the answer. Related Hidden features of Stack Exchange...

discussion faq hidden-features

Kaz Wolfe

in short, it has some use, but honestly not that much more than what you can get from poking around,

Android Dev

@KazWolfe But if I append /timeline and hit enter, it redirects back to the question?

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

just read that @AndroidDev

askubuntu.com/posts/896221/timeline

@AndroidDev and there's one of yours

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Ugghhh Nautilus just crashed and I had to reboot. Why the freaking frubuntu would nautilus crash?

Android Dev

12:58 AM

Because... reasons

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Thanks owe wise won

^^^ typical typos

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

the /inbox is particularly useful

WinEunuuchs2Unix

:)

Android Dev

Ooooh, cool!

9

Q: Is there any general way to obtain the review ID or review summary for a certain review job without the 10 k tools?

Accessing the full review history is a privilege for 10 k users but, statistics for individual reviews can be viewed by everybody (two examples). These review summaries can be somewhat useful for different aspects, such as understanding what happened to a review item that you initiated, e.g., if...

support review user-interface timeline review-stats

WinEunuuchs2Unix

^^^ A name change to UbuntuDev might get you 4k points :p

Android Dev

1:02 AM

But I don't develop Linux applications. Actually, I only write Android apps as a hobby :)

How do you know /404 is actually an unlinked page, rather than just a non-existent page that therefore gives a 404 error? — Mechanical snail Sep 25 '12 at 10:43

LOL! --^

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Why don't you port bash to Android.... that could be umm.... time consuming :)

After all hobbies should be all-time-consuming ~~~!!!!

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

somehow i suspect that already exists

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I don't recall reading about bash for Android, only linux, windows and apple.

I think Android is based on Linux Kernel 3.13 or something like that though.

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

@WinEunuuchs2Unix google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://…

oops

forum.xda-developers.com/android/software-hacking/…

@WinEunuuchs2Unix read that

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I did

Now I have to lobby google to implement yad too :D

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

1:09 AM

won't work, no gtk on Android

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Yeah Gnome No Go.

Kaz Wolfe

shell@hammerhead:/ $ echo $SHELL
/system/bin/sh

android has a bash-like default shell

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

i think i want Pho. I am frustrated and hungry and classes going downhill, and basically broke even though I work my buttt off

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Wow my investment in learning Bash might pay off in the long run... all four corners of the techni-verse are covered.

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

i deserve a small warm bowl of happiness at least called Pho

WinEunuuchs2Unix

1:11 AM

Unix-Windows-Apple-Android

Kaz Wolfe

android's shell is not bash

it's bash-like

WinEunuuchs2Unix

unix is not bash...it's bash like too :p

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

@KazWolfe bash-like but not bash

Kaz Wolfe

@WinEunuuchs2Unix Unix is an OS not a shell.

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy Right.

iOS, however, does run Bash.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I thought I muted this tab... oh right I rebooted :(

Android is a an OS, not a shell

I was thinking 2 days ago the best part about bash is the "Born Again" part.

I do identify with the fact it's spelled "Bourne".

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

1:17 AM

nice thing about bash is it's features, which it borrowed a lot from korn shell.

readline support is nice,too

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Wasn't there an original shell for unix though?

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

@WinEunuuchs2Unix there was, written by Ken Thompson. Later The guy whose last name is Bourne wrote his shell which became standard /bin/sh

WinEunuuchs2Unix

The first Unix shell was the Thompson shell, sh, written by Ken Thompson at Bell Labs and distributed with Versions 1 through 6 of Unix, from 1971 to 1975.[2] Though rudimentary by modern standards, it introduced many of the basic features common to all later Unix shells, including piping, simple control structures using if and goto, and filename wildcarding. Though not in current use, it is still available as part of some Ancient UNIX Systems.

^^^ From Wiki not me

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

Korn shell was next, and it sought to improve what Bourne shell did and didn't. It was best one at the time

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Some day we'll have to have the "Computer Awards" and give Ken Thompson a trophy.

We'll throw a sheep to Kaz Wolfe or something :D

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

1:21 AM

I think he already has a medal.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

There are computer medals?

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Good ole' billy boy in action

Is that a cigar in your hand or are you just happy to see my blue dress?

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

Notable awards IEEE Emanuel R. Piore Award (1982)
Turing Award (1983)
Computer Pioneer Award (1994)
Computer History Museum Fellow (1997)
National Medal of Technology (1998)
Tsutomu Kanai Award (1999)
Japan Prize (2011)

from Ken Thompson's wikipedia page

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Wow I didn't know there were so many awards to be had

Shower time....afk

TheWanderer

1:31 AM

guh

wireless ADB may be nice, but it's a pain when I need to copy a 50MB app

Android Dev

@TheWanderer Well if you use 5Ghz it's not that bad

Nathan Osman

Your router doesn't get 30 MB/s.?

But yeah I hear you

:P

@NathanOsman school

1:32 AM

Lame.

TheWanderer

weirdly, it's actually faster than home

I usually get ~500KB/s here, but at home it's more like 200

Android Dev

Then buy a better router :)

TheWanderer

@AndroidDev the WAP at home is Ubiquiti

you can't get much better

Android Dev

I highly recommend the RT-N66U

@TheWanderer oh

TheWanderer

These are 802.11ac

Android Dev

1:34 AM

Meh, I have never needed AC wireless. N-450 is sufficient for me :)

TheWanderer

well if ac is giving me 200KB/s, imagine what N would be

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

@TheWanderer all that doesn't mean your ISP won't be a bottleneck

Android Dev

Probably faster, since AC uses 2.4 and 5 simultaneously, doesn't it?

So if N only uses 2.4, it would be faster

(Assuming range is the issue)

Nathan Osman

This is what I have: netgear.com/home/products/networking/wifi-routers/R8000.aspx

It works pretty good.

No, it doesn't get 3.2 Gbps.

That's just sneaky marketing.

Android Dev

@TheWanderer You could get one of these... Supposedly it can extend the signal to nearly a mile (without obstructions). Honestly though, I would actually be uneasy being in the same room with that thing

ebay.com/itm/…

TheWanderer

1:43 AM

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy this is LAN

Android Dev

Wait, how is that even leagal when the maximum allowed TxPower by the FCC is like 1W?

TheWanderer

range isn't the issue

I'm like 20 feet from the WAP

Android Dev

Then how the heck are you only getting 200KB/sec?

TheWanderer

do you think I know?

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Re: What does GTK stand for? ... (Gtk was originally developed for Gimp, and later made it's way into Gnome's default toolkit.) GTK is what programmers use to make graphical interfaces for their programs, and also what's responsible of drawing those programs on your desktop.Mar 4, 2009

Android Dev

1:46 AM

@NathanOsman That looks like Sputnik!

Okay, maybe the antennas are a bit short, but still

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

to pho or not to pho ? save muney or nah ?

WinEunuuchs2Unix

You're the only guy I know whose flown to China and complained about being broke ;)

Actually you're the only person I know (but never met) who has flown to China.

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

@WinEunuuchs2Unix my mom paid for the trip basically. I could never save enough for the ticket

WinEunuuchs2Unix

A plot to get you married and out of the house no doubt :p

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

I'm working for 9.5 per hour. I can't move anywhere

WinEunuuchs2Unix

1:50 AM

Fight for fifeteen?

Android Dev

Raising the minimum wage is not a good idea

WinEunuuchs2Unix

ok Donald Trump :p

Android Dev

The problem is, if you raise the minimum wage, then prices for consumers increase as well.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

The problem is you create artificial jobs for people and the prices of houses double.

That has nothing to do with minimum wage and decent standard of living.... those people are making 80K and their houses are 1 million.

I didn't know you were into politics and economics... interesting :)

Android Dev

Eh, not really

WinEunuuchs2Unix

1:54 AM

Why did you delete that?

Android Dev

I am using the mobile chat and I accidentally clicked delete instead of edit

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Yeah there was nothing untoward there.

I think it was "That too" or something.

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

Problem is that while i may have some skills, I've no experience. So i only have restaurant or retain options available right now. Which is sh!t

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I thought you worked in a lab?

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

student computer lab, yes. Which is basically telling people how to print 4 PowerPoint slides per page

and i have to be a student to work there. If university kicks me out, i can't work there

WinEunuuchs2Unix

1:59 AM

Ohhhh Power Point.... I've been meaning to learn that one.

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