Ask Ubuntu General Room

12:52 AM

@Seth Thank you for your 45 minute video on advanced Bash concepts. I've only watched 5 minutes and have paused it three times to try out great tips the presenter made. I've bookmarked the link in a new bookmarks tab called "Bash" : youtube.com/watch?v=uqHjc7hlqd0

Seth

:D

I got to see him give that live last November. Didn't get to see the end though because the conference overlapped two sessions >:|

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I wouldn't want to watch it live because I'm horrible note taker. Pausing this video and watching it over a few days (or weeks?) will be much better.

Seth

He has a place you can download the slides at.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

The slides are in the video though...

Seth

also true ;p

WinEunuuchs2Unix

12:56 AM

I just read one page microsoft's writeup on Bash/WSL. It's probably the best thing about Windows 10 for me.

Seth

indeed.

I wish I had Windows 10 on this computer.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

It'll be on that future used laptop I spoke of buying this afternoon.

In the meantime when I go to use Windows 8.1 next, I'll setup Ubuntu on an Oracle Virtual Machine.

March 21st or so I'll start my 2 month gaming binge :D on Mass Effect IV.

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

1:59 AM

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Q: NFS - one file hanging ls

I have an NFS share hosted on FreeBSD 11.0.1, and a mounted on "trusty tahr" Ubuntu 14.04. From time to time, there is a single file which is unlistable on the Ubuntu client, but looks perfectly ordinary on the NFS host. find, ls, and the like, all hang when listing this file. The easiest way I ...

Eugene

2:30 AM

Early morning you all :)

WinEunuuchs2Unix

2:40 AM

Good morning Eugene (it's 8pm yesterday here though)

I'm in Canada, where are you?

Seth

3:08 AM

What time zone is Edmonton on @WinEunuuchs2Unix? I'd guess you're an hour or two ahead of us Pacific coasters?

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Yeah we're Mountain Standard Time +1 hour from you. But I'm working on a campaign to ditch Daylight Saving Time and it's is proving successful with current provincial (you call it state) government.

Seth

Cool!

I find DST pretty annoying too.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Yeah. My major point is that it causes confusion in the mind and leads to more accidents which is unnecessary deaths and dismemberment.

The t-shirt (once made) will read: "DST Kills!"

It would be nice to bring Washington State into the campaign.

If we convince BC to sign up then Washington and Oregon along with Montana would be easy acquisitions. I think California would be hard though because it's such a diverse culture set hard to convince.

TylerTotally

Hello! I was wondering if anybody had used ubuntu mobile version and if they liked it? I was rooting my samsung galaxy s7 (at least trying too) and i was going to dual boot the two, (android 6.0.1 and Ubuntu Mobile)

Seth

@TylerTotally is there even a port for the S7?

I've never used it because I've never had a phone that supported it. @Mateo has used it extensively though.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

3:22 AM

I might try Ubuntu on a Tablet but I think Android is best for phone.

TylerTotally

I just got a android rca voyager

Works great for the low low 25 USD

I have had trouble rooting it, but i was planning to use kali linux on it anyway... So i suppose it not apporpite for Ubuntu forums.

Also @WinEunuuchs2Unix it would have been experimental anyway. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@TylerTotally Experimental politics I'll venture into... I've outgrown experimental technolgy a couple decades ago :p

TylerTotally

Maybe its just me? I get some enjoyment out of it... I'll probablly brick my phone in the process

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I understand I brick my hard drives from time to time :D

Seth

I blame common core. https://t.co/BsaROEo6Ye

Tweeted by bob_owens on March 18, 2017 at 4:41 PM

facepalm

TylerTotally

3:31 AM

(ill wrap this around to ubuntu here) I blew a 680 watt power supply in my rig recently and had to get a replacement. Since I had my rig open, I installed (properly) 4 hdds that I scraped from older pc's. So... I have ubuntu on one of them for recovery of windows 10 and also for when im tired of windows updates...

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I'm getting into the habit of turning off Windows automatic updates... They are too annoying.

TylerTotally

@Seth Who wouldn't be all for that?

@WinEunuuchs2Unix yea, i just did recently with a program called SpyBot

it nurfs all of windows hidden spying features

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I was lead to believe Windows lets you turn off all spying features and opt out.

CIA and NSA will never do that of course :)

TylerTotally

this is a good read wikileaks.org/ciav7p1

bud of mine sent it to me

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I see Vault7 buried in your abbreviation

TylerTotally

3:35 AM

Sorry?

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I wrote a Q&A on Vault7: askubuntu.com/questions/891611/…

TylerTotally

Oh lol

not with it at the moment

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Your link contains "ciav7p1" which to me means "CIA Vault 7 Page 1".

I'm in a happy moment and don't want to click on your link right now :)

TylerTotally

deal

your fine

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I read about wikileaks and vault 7 a couple weeks ago though.

I think Russia Today was one of the first news organizations to publish it. Most American organizations have been silent on the issue though.

TylerTotally

3:38 AM

If i may be so bold, are you in the UK

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I am half british (fourth generation) but living in Canada... it's in my profile.

TylerTotally

neat

i am new to stack exchange, how do i leave a room?

i have other things to tend to lol

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Click the big X at top of screen???

Seth

Little leave link under the userlist

Or close the tab.

TylerTotally

Thanks

I thought it was "sticky" and just reopened next time i was on stack exchange

WinEunuuchs2Unix

3:42 AM

@Seth +1 for Little leave link under the userlist I don't see it but I'll look for it some day.

Seth

@WinEunuuchs2Unix the whole vault7 thing was a huge overreaction. Spying is the CIAs job. Afaik there was no evidence they were spying on Americans.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@Seth They've broadened the mandate to spying on any American who's talked to any Canadian is OK.

Seth

@WinEunuuchs2Unix huh?

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Because I'm Canadian it's ok for CIA to spy on me, and as a consequence on you since you've communicated with me.

Seth

@WinEunuuchs2Unix I highly doubt the CIA is spying on you. Again, afaik, there was also no evidence that the CIA performed any mass spying.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

3:44 AM

I could be wrong but it's the best of my recollection about your spy agency mandate

Seth

Honestly mass spying would make it harder for them to do their job, not easier.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

GCHQ in britan does mass surveillance I'm sure CIA does it too.

Just google "cia mass surveillance" and you get tons of hits.

Seth

@WinEunuuchs2Unix GCHQ is not the equivalent of the CIA. That'd be MI5.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

MI5 is internal police, MI6 are the spooks.

Seth

The NSA is the American equivalent of GCHQ, and we already know they do mass surveillance. Illegally.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

3:46 AM

James Bond for example was MI6.

Seth

@WinEunuuchs2Unix ah, you're right. My point still stands though.

@WinEunuuchs2Unix doesn't mean much. Tons of news outlets used vault7 to say the CIA performed mass spying, which was wrong as far as I could find out.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

From google top stories: "Could GCHQ have spied on Donald Trump?
Telegraph.co.uk-Mar 17, 2017
Britain's intelligence agency and the US Government have been the focus on an international drama following claims that GCHQ spied on ..."

Seth

Yes, GCHQ does mass surveillance.

No one is disagreeing with that

WinEunuuchs2Unix

The interesting thing about CIA is we learn they don't report to the US President.

They are reporting to a deep-state and releasing secrets to the media in order to sink the Good Ship Trump.

Seth

@WinEunuuchs2Unix we.. already knew that.

They report to the director of national intelligence. Who Trump gets to appoint I might add.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

3:52 AM

Yes but what you and the CIA don't know is they could be forgiven for spying on Americans but half of them will be fired for trying to stage an artificial coup d'etat by revealing secrets to the media who are trying to get rid of Trump.

Legally 50% of the CIA could be tried with Treason and executed... Which reduces tax burden.

^^ @realDonaldTrump

^^^ Peter Lavelle (@PLCROSSTALK) (Russia Today flagship program Cross Talk)

@Seth I noticed some of the old State Department faces are still there even though John Kerry is out and Rex Tillerson is in.

There is a smooth transition from Obama administration with Trump's UN ambassador Nikki hating Russia and his Sec State Rex being friendly with Russia.

Glad to see Trump back-pedaled on breaking "One China" policy and USA and China are now playing war games in South China Sea instead.

The only one I would nominate for National Intelligence Directory is Valerie Plame but that would give McCain, Chenney and Grahamn heart attacks.

Kaz Wolfe

4:07 AM

Hey, @Zacharee1, I have irrefutable proof that OnePlus is better than LG. (cc @NathanOsman)

The OnePlus doesn't bootloop.

kaz out.

Seth

Alright, it's ask Ask Ubuntu time. I need another monitor. Can only afford used right now. For about the same price I can... get two of these 19" 1280x1024 Dells, this 22" 1680x1050 HP

or this other 19" 1440x900 Dell

If you can't tell, ergonomics is really important to me because I have had and am having lots of issues because of it.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

4:35 AM

Just get a 1920x1080 HDMI TV for 100 bucks or so.

$120: google.ca/…;*&spd=33‌10928117998617188

yawns 3:45am comes early.... bedtime.... night all :)

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: While doing a sudo apt-get upgrade i got the following message

Which option should I select ??

ubuntu

Seth

@WinEunuuchs2Unix that's like double what any of those cost :)

Nathan Osman

5:43 AM

@KazWolfe Internet high five

I just got an update and realized I hadn't rebooted since the last update over 1100 hours earlier.

Over a month without a single issue.

I sure didn't get that with my N6.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching product name in body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Any hardship of rest makes the exercises by refletzx on askubuntu.com

Anwar

8:08 AM

appears

Jacob Vlijm

...was there all the time

Anwar

I think this is a fair dupe target. Also the target has better and canonical answer.

so, if anyone is interested ... go ahead :)

I wish I had an apt gold badge

Jacob Vlijm

Hey, by the way, nice avatar!

Anwar

Thank you :) I copied from you and it blends completely with the top bar

Jacob Vlijm

How do I write an application? askubuntu.com/questions/894832/…

Anwar

8:23 AM

never seen such as settings in ccsm. core0.staticworld.net/images/idge/imported/imageapi/2014/10/07/…

Jacob Vlijm

...Not in my ccsm (16.04)

Anwar

It seems Trello and Firefox has an enmity between them

Same here and I don't remember seeing one in 14.04 as a regular user of CCSM!

Jacob Vlijm

Have to run, see you later!

Anwar

me too!

muru

8:39 AM

It's not everyday you see a mod's answer in the VLQ queue: askubuntu.com/a/363847/158442

Though it was an audit at first

Zanna

9:14 AM

pretty obvious dupe? askubuntu.com/questions/147313/…

@muru I was surprised too

what's with people asking the broadest questions possible today?

cl-netbox

Hello :)

Zanna

Hi

cl-netbox

@Zanna Good morning to you ! :)

@Zanna horrible ... I saw some too brad one ... and voted to close :)

Zanna

9:30 AM

thanks :)

good morning

cl-netbox

@Zanna ^^^ typos everywhere .... hahaha ... I meant "too broad ones" ! :D

Zanna

I know :)

Mateo

10:28 AM

@TylerTotally I really like it, use it for my daily phone,not too many full ports out devices.ubports.com/# these three at the top plus the nexus 4

the best part is having the full Ubuntu commandline

muru

@Zanna about favicos in askubuntu.com/a/57042/158442: the links are now https://cdn.sstatic.net/Sites/<site>/img/favicon.ico, so cdn.sstatic.net/Sites/stackoverflow/img/favicon.ico and cdn.sstatic.net/Sites/askubuntu/img/favicon.ico

Mateo

And the desktop version of solitaire hits a sweet spot in my brain:

Zanna

@muru oh thanks! I should fix the ones I did properly, because I took a screenshot of the wayback page, cropped it, and uploaded myself, resulting in degraded images

oh you did already

fixed the other two

Takkat

11:22 AM

root@kali:~# sudo fdisk -l all sudo to the roots

edwinksl

lol

Dan

11:44 AM

Anyone noticed that there's a JSON penguin in error responses on assets.ubuntu.com? ;P

I think that's the first time I've seen humor in error pages as JSON, looks kind of cool

terdon

@Dan What's that circle floating behind it supposed to be?

@Seth Huh? I got mine in about a half hour from the embassy. Renewed, anyway, I guess you might be talking about the first one issued.

muru

12:14 PM

Do we need safety when we have security?

Dan

@terdon it's a speech bubble with a question mark in it

terdon

12:31 PM

If you say so. Wow.

Zanna

@muru synonymise?

muru

@Zanna posted on meta. Lets see.

Zanna

nice

Ask Ubuntu Meta

12:53 PM

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Q: Do we need [safety] when we have [security]?

Just saw that there's tag for safety, with no usage guidance, and questions mostly about how "safe" something is. Seems like it should be a synonym of security. Or nuked altogether.

discussion tags tag-synonyms

Zacharee1

1:05 PM

@KazWolfe my phone hasn't bootlooped

Zanna

2:26 PM

er... should this be open? askubuntu.com/questions/65083/…

Zacharee1

what do you mean?

Zanna

too broad!!

Zacharee1

read the quote at the top of the question

Zanna

I did...

shrug ok whatever

Zacharee1

we're keeping that one open because it's useful

cl-netbox

2:29 PM

@Zanna why too broad ? it's useful information about DEs - isn't it ? Or did I misunderstand it ?

Zanna

@Zacharee1 I see that.

@cl-netbox no denying that is is useful, it's just asking for a big list == too broad

but, a) new DEs could come along and b) the list will remain finite even so, because it's quite a big deal to develop a DE

so I agree with @Zacharee1, it does make sense for the post to be open for new submissions

muru

@Zanna hysterical raisins.

Zanna

indeed

haha I just ate some raisins

Zacharee1

rip

cl-netbox

@Zanna yes, that's my opinion as well - let's leave it open ! :)

Seth

3:30 PM

@terdon Renewals are easier.

cl-netbox

Hi @Seth How are things going ? :)

Seth

Going ok

cl-netbox

@Seth good to hear :)

Seth

hmm. If multiple monitors use the VESA100 standard, does that mean I could swap their bases?

Fabby

3:56 PM

AFAIK, VESA is about cable signals / refresh rates / resolutions/... , not about the plastic around it. @Seth

Seth

@Fabby VESA has a lot of standards, including the mounts :)

Fabby

I should read up on the standard then!

(Last time was 20 years ago)

Seth

also hi fabby :)

been a bit.

Fabby

Been a bit when you were around... :D

Last week Mon-Tue worked 40h straight.

and then 12h per day rest of week except Friday.

I've been a bit busy. :)

Seth

Wow. That doesn't sound healthy.

Fabby

4:00 PM

I've taken 2.5 days of sick leave in 25 years of career.

Which reminds me: I've got 0.5 sick day coming up in the next year! :D

Seth

I didn't just mean bodily ;)

Fabby

Ah! Well, a project miss: I misunderstood an external PM, had resources scheduled for this week, but they should have done the work last week.

So I stepped in and did it myself...

cl-netbox

@Fabby I can top this my friend : 0 days of "sick leave" ! :D How are you doing Fabby ? :)

Fabby

:O

0??? how long of a career so far?

You get ill during your holidays as well?

(that's what used to happen to me: 1 week off: flu!)

cl-netbox

@Fabby that was in more than 20 years ... :)

Fabby

4:06 PM

wow...

cl-netbox

@Fabby yes ... and also while on work - but as you know I'm a German ... self-discipline is everything ! :) hahaha :D

Kaz Wolfe

> tfw unlimited sick days

Fabby

Yeah, but still: 0 days is very little sick leave...

cl-netbox

@Fabby yes and sometimes it was very hard ... :)

Fabby

@KazWolfe I did have unlimited sick days back then...

It's just that after the month has ended you fall down to disability benefits.

(which was about half of what I earned)

Thijser

4:17 PM

i.stack.imgur.com/JxQfg.png friend asked me to test some software he wrote for using multiple wifi connections

Jacob Vlijm

So someone *insisted* to have this conversation with me, about a possible job as python programmer. After I said "no" three times in a row, they still wanted my resume. I send it, after which they invited me for an interview.

"*So, yeah, yeah, nice, nice. I see you are active in community stuff, open source and all, but.... did you ever program for real?*"

Me: Well, please define real, did you look into the Launchpad stuff I send you, or any of the other links?

"*Uhm........ no. But I mean commercial stuff, did you ever program commercially?*"

cl-netbox

@Fabby I have to correct myself : it was the same amount as in your case - 25 years, though being a typical German was a joke ... Germans are known for behaving quite the opposite way, whenever they read about a flu is coming near to them, they visit the next available doctor ! :D :D :D

Fabby

@JacobVlijm Starred! We've all been there...

@cl-netbox Aah... I didn't know that!

Jacob Vlijm

@Fabby so good to be able to decompress here :)

Fabby

I once had an entire interview in English and then the question: "Yeah, but this is in Amsterdam. Do you speak any Dutch?"

cl-netbox

4:21 PM

@JacobVlijm @Thijser Hi Jacob ! Hi Thijs ! Good afternoon to you ! :)

Fabby

I replied in Dutch and the other side went "Does that mean 'Yes'?"

:D :D :D

Jacob Vlijm

^ hilareous haha.

Thijser

@cl-netbox hello there

Jacob Vlijm

Hey @cl-netbox

cl-netbox

@Thijser subwoofer bug still "undecided" ... seems that not a lot users have a subwoofer ... hmmm :(

Thijser

4:24 PM

@cl-netbox yhea had some trouble convincing someone to also report this bug as he decided it was a problem with intel and that they should just release their drivers

cl-netbox

@Thijser that is definitly not an issue with intel drivers ... OMG ! :( subwoofer is a sound problem - not a CPU or graphics problem ! :D

Thijser

community.acer.com/t5/Predator-Laptops/…

cl-netbox

@Thijser beststevie is a "genius" ... in cooking or baking pizzas maybe ? hahaha :D

Thijser

You can voice your opinion on that topic, maybe that will convince him.

cl-netbox

@Thijser The thing is (you might remember) that I'm not having a subwoofer and so, no valuable experience with it ... I just provided you with some general ideas to help you getting the problem solved. Also I think you explained everything perfectly fine ! :)

Thijser

4:32 PM

(what I mean is explaining why he has no idea what he is talking about)

Kaz Wolfe

he doesn't.

intel GC drivers don't even touch audio in any way.

not to mention: 01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/stack

cl-netbox

@Thijser "Intel is known not to present any Drivers for the Graphics to the Linux Community" WTF is this bullshit ??? As I said : better he gets back to baking pizzas ! :D Unbelievable ... !!!

Seth

@JacobVlijm Ugh. I would have gotten so mad.

Kaz Wolfe

@Seth Seth? Mad? Never.

Seth

Iguanas are humans t... no that doesn't work.

Jacob Vlijm

4:36 PM

@Seth Yeah, I actually was. Such silly questions, such arrogance to the open source community. And after they really insisted on having this conversation.

Kaz Wolfe

@JacobVlijm It's like they haven't even heard of our Lord and Savior RMS, who rode down from Proprietary Mountain on a GNU to deliver unto us our salvation, the GPL.

Seth

@JacobVlijm So are you actively looking for programming work then? I don't remember what you said you do currently.. Teacher, I think?

@KazWolfe Having seen RMS speak.. He actually believes something along those lines.

Or at least pretends he does well enough to make me sick

Kaz Wolfe

@Seth yeah... i do not like the guy or his absolute hate towards proprietary software.

Jacob Vlijm

@Seth yeah, I am a musician, but would love to switch (partially) to programming.

cl-netbox

@JacobVlijm why do all those stupid kids "with the short trousers" (mit de kutten Hosen) get these jobs where they decide who gets a job and who not ? OMG :D

Kaz Wolfe

4:39 PM

@cl-netbox because managers.

Seth

@cl-netbox when you can't do anything useful.. go into management!

Those who can, do. Those who can't, lead.

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Jacob Vlijm

@cl-netbox He obviously got nervous on any of my questions to clarify what he meant. I am pretty sure he didn't know peanuts on programming.

Fabby

@Seth Hrmpf... I'm a Project Manager but because I made a mistake, I drove 500Km to the Data Centre, opened a change, ran about 1Km of Fibre cables myself, upped the ports and tested.

Kaz Wolfe

case in point:

cl-netbox

@Seth Sadly this became true as it seems ... when I was in such positions (and I was for a very long time) , I would never ever acted like this ... that's all I can say ... very, very sad. :(

Fabby

4:41 PM

@Seth (Oh, Drove back too and did it in a 4h stretch because the extrernal upplier was showing up next day)

Seth

@Fabby yes but you used to be the little guy at one point, didn't you?

Fabby

@here: A good manager is a manager who can replace any of his people when they get sick, have a personal emergency, ...

Seth

exactly.

cl-netbox

@JacobVlijm yes - I think he was two things : 1) jealous and 2) afraid of you being better than himself !

Fabby

Unfortunately, there's just a ton of bad managers out there who've never written a single line of code or made a cable themselves...

cl-netbox

4:44 PM

@Fabby yeah Fabby ... we old farts, we thought and think and act this way ... :)

Jacob Vlijm

^ this! (and above that ^^)

Kaz Wolfe

well then just about anyone can be a good manager to me. They just need to sit at my desk, drink coffee, and post in AUGR char or read reddit.

Fabby

I used to be able to say "I know everything there is to know about MS-DOS ! :D :D :D

We old farts had it easier... Nowadays the learning curve is very steep!

Kaz Wolfe

@Fabby You do?

Fabby

@KazWolfe Meh... still 80%.

Why? You're going to test me?

Smoke! BRB!

Kaz Wolfe

4:46 PM

i might have

cl-netbox

@Fabby No, I don't thinks so ... we have and had enough self-confidence to stand to the fact that everyone has strengths on other fields and so we always hired the best available people ! :)

terdon

@Fabby Microsoft denial of service?

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cl-netbox

@terdon yes ! that ! hahaha ... Hi terdon :)

terdon

:)

Kaz Wolfe

0

Q: WiFi not working on 16.10

I have Ubuntu 16.10 on my laptop. I also have a Broadcom 802.11n wireless chip which is refusing to activate. What can I do to fix this?

wireless broadcom 16.10

@mods, can i request a nuke?

Fabby

4:52 PM

@terdon Starred!

@KazWolfe You've got my vote... Let the guy edit his answer first.

terdon

@KazWolfe On what grounds? I mean, yes of course it's unclear, but it was asked 16 minutes ago. I'd VTC, but I don't want to hammer it closed just yet.

Kaz Wolfe

@terdon VTC as unclear, OP doesn't seem to know what they're doing, it can always be re-opened.

Plus, it won't generate potentially useless answers like the one it already got. Isn't acer_wmi by default blacklisted?

terdon

No idea. I'm all for closing it, I just don't want to do it as a mod. That's all.

cl-netbox

@Fabby I added mine (VTC) @KazWolfe ... he has to provide way more information :)

Kaz Wolfe

ah yes, the hammer... SE should add a feature for non-binding action.

terdon

4:55 PM

Oh, by the way, lspci | grep Network usually doesn't always the wireless card I think.

Kaz Wolfe

Works on my system (tm)

Fabby

@terdon starred! :)

Kaz Wolfe

┌─[1]─[9:49:56]─[kazwolfe@firewolf]
└──> ~ % lspci | grep Network
02:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM43602 802.11ac Wireless LAN SoC (rev 01)

terdon

@KazWolfe Mine too. I think it wouldn't on my laptop. Not sure though. The "classic" is lspci -nn | grep 0280

Kaz Wolfe

oh, TIL.

cl-netbox

4:56 PM

cl@cl-uw-1:~$ lspci | grep Network
03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless 7260 (rev bb)

terdon

Yeah, I learned that one here too.

@terdon Um. That was supposed to read: "doesn't always show the wireless card, I think."

cl-netbox

@terdon when you use LAN and disable WiFi it shows the wired connection I think. :)

terdon

I'll have to check on my laptop but the one you're currently using is irrelevant.

The problem I am thinking of is that some wireless cards don't have the word "Network" in the output lspci shows for them.

user136984

@terdon: Thanks for the Jazz recommendations by the way! I only got the chance to properly look at them all yesterday, but they were good! :)

cl-netbox

you are right :
cl@cl-uw-1:~$ lspci | grep Ethernet
04:00.1 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 12)

terdon

5:05 PM

Ah so it's the other way around. grep Network won't get all ethernet cards.

cl-netbox

Good afternoon @ParanoidPanda ! Nice to see you ! :)

@terdon exactly ... it's the "word" which matters :)

Kaz Wolfe

hmmm. i wonder if i can link google voice to ubuntu's SMS/phone calls menu options.

and sync notifications.

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

5:29 PM

0

Q: Systemd ignores RestartSec=15s

I have this service: [Unit] Description=TimeAgent Recorder Requires=timeagent.service [Service] User=deployer Group=sudo WorkingDirectory=/home/deployer/timeagent Environment=HOME=/home/deployer Environment=RAILS_ENV=production Environment=EYE_CLIENT_TIMEOUT=120 Restart=always RestartSec=15 Nic...

ubuntu systemd

Kaz Wolfe

Hey, does anyone remember the question a while back about someone's f character vanishing in certain text boxes?

Zacharee1

what's a boxex

Kaz Wolfe

what?

Zacharee1

5:44 PM

lol

in Android on Stack Overflow Chat, Mar 16 at 15:15, by McAdam331

I'M AN IDIOT.

I love how that's been pinned

Kaz Wolfe

6:14 PM

next project: raspberry pi garage door opener bomb.

Zacharee1

you are now on the no-fly list

Kaz Wolfe

already was

Zacharee1

rip

Kaz Wolfe

refused to decrypt laptop

Zacharee1

what

you're seriously on the no-fly list?

Kaz Wolfe

6:15 PM

maybe. i haven't had a reason to fly anywhere since 2006

Zacharee1

what reason would you have to fly in 2006, or have an encrypted laptop???

Kaz Wolfe

trip to hungary. i didn't have an encrypted laptop then.

nobody can tell when i'm being serious.

nope

which is good.

no

6:17 PM

@ThomasWard would disagree.

Zacharee1

@ThomasWard is an AI

AIs have to humor

just a crude approximation

Thomas Ward

6:33 PM

appears after being summoned, carrying a sword, a phaser rifle, a quad-barreled shot gun, and heavy battle armor

I'm sorry, what were we talking about again?

@KazWolfe @Zacharee1 ^

Kaz Wolfe

what?

Thomas Ward

I was summoned

what was i summoned for

i'm in the middle of a battle

Kaz Wolfe

You were kindly pinged such that we could retrieve your opinion on whether being serious or non-serious with absolutely no indication is a good thing or not.

Seth

well, you certainly got a reply.

Nathan Osman

7:13 PM

Lol.

Zacharee1

thomas being thomas

speaking of, KEYS @ThomasWard

Fabby

@KazWolfe I was talking to a colleague at an airport about a Bill Of Materials, but was using the abbreviation.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@KazWolfe It's a good thing: you can say things seriously and still claim them to be jokes if you say them in a funny way.