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12:40 AM
@Zacharee1 it only exists to catch the most egregious errors. It's not generally useful.
Obligatory "they should ship a neural network with Word to learn your style and flag deviations".
 
12:55 AM
@Zacharee1 try that thing that I keep getting YT ads for
grammerly or something
 
1:25 AM
well I don't need a grammar checker
it's just that MS decided I needed one along with the standard spellchecker
 
1:36 AM
Just turn it off then?
 
2:16 AM
Where do you put your appimage files? Feels wrong to have them in Documents..
 
2:27 AM
appimage?
 
3:14 AM
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Q: Cron Task Compressing Directory and File Problem

mohd raimiI wrote a compressing command in Ubuntu. However,the zip file produced also contain path folder leading to the target file in form of folder. I only need the target file alone in the zip file. This is the code I currently using. zip -9pr /mnt/test/Raimi/temp/Testing.zip /home/tect/Loco/*txt wh...

 
 
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4:51 AM
Look what I saw today:
I wish I'd had a larger lens.
 
 
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6:31 AM
@NathanOsman wow awesome!
 
Thanks :D
 
7:14 AM
spam masquerading as answer: askubuntu.com/a/895175/158442
 
7:25 AM
weird spam though o.O
 
7:38 AM
Oh, it seems to be plagiarising the last answer on the post.
 
Indeed, but I mean, how will they make money out of telling people how to register to vote? Unless the site is fake...
 
8:22 AM
That post was 1 hour ago and it's still sitting there. Should I edit the link out?
 
Good morning ! :)
 
@MarkYisri no, flag it!
always flag spam to get the user banned
 
@Zanna did that too :)
 
Hi @MarkYisri @Zanna ! :)
 
@MarkYisri never edit spam because then people can't see that it's spam
hi @cl-netbox, morning to you
 
8:36 AM
@Zanna ok
 
@Zanna or the site is crawling with ads
 
yeah...
 
9:00 AM
Just lurking around and passing by to say I'm fine, though I still have no internet in the new place (using my phones internet)
Hope everything is good with you folks as well!
 
@IanC Hi Ian ! :) Good to read that you're fine ! :) When will you have internet in your new flat ?
 
@IanC all the best :)
 
9:36 AM
Hey anybody know any other good ways to mess with a microsoft guy who has found a virrus on my computer?
 
@Thijser please explain more : what did he find on your machine and which tool did he use ? Good morning Thijs ! :)
 
a "virrus" on my "windows computer"
and he wants to use teamviewer
oh we are switching to supremo
 
@Thijser then he has full access to the whole system ... hmmm ... don't you have a system backup image ? If you really have a virus, please restore it or reinstall Windows. You can't remove viruses completely, they write things to deeply hidden parts of the registry. :)
 
no I'm messing with him
I'm curious when he will realise he is trying to connect with the default screenshot rather then my computer
 
@Thijser messing with him ? don't understand ... why would you want to give him access ? He can't remove everything the virus wrote to the system !
 
9:44 AM
his id is 888426024
and his password is 6023
in case you want to blow up his system
 
hahaha ... no thanks ... not interested in microsoft things
 
aww I don't have supremo installed
 
@Thijser again, why do you want to give him access ? You can solve the problem yourself.
 
he wants to install malware but he is giving away his credentials so I can nuke his system
 
@Thijser then use teamviewer ! :)
 
9:48 AM
hmm teamviewer not working in ubuntu 17.10
 
@Thijser install it as described here -> askubuntu.com/questions/676224/… it should work ! :) Important is that the service is enabled and running ... everything related is also described there.
 
everyone: 17.04 Beta 2 ISO's are out for testing - if anyone is up to help out the community flavours ... please run through the QA Tracker test cases and add your results. Thanks! iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/374/builds ... and use this for guidance - tsimonq2.net/blog/2016/04/27
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@Thijser I can't find a sense behind ... he wants to install malware on your system ? Is all this a joke ? :)
@fossfreedom Hi David - good morning to you ! :)
 
morning ... can someone nice star that please?!
ta
 
@fossfreedom done ! :)
 
9:55 AM
@cl-netbox I' m at my parrent's, these are people that call to try and install spyware to get old people' s bank accounts
I 'm now setting some stuff up so that I can savely get into his computer and nuke it
 
@Thijser what a shame ... what about calling the police ?
 
@cl-netbox it' s a known problem, they cannot help as they are calling from India
 
@Thijser don't try ... reinstall the system on your parents machine ... or better replace Windows with ubuntu ! :)
 
if I connect with his system (connect with control remote system) then he cannot get back to me right?
@cl-netbox they have a mac and a mint
 
@Thijser very dangerous ... better don't connect ... everything happens through teamviewer servers !
 
10:00 AM
hello all, anyone here can help me on iptables rules ??
 
Always best just to ask the iptables question and then see if someone knows
 
Your question doesn't state what's broken, what you've tried or what the error messages are?
 
this rule on my question is work perfectly, but i need to edit it to cover all ports not only port 80 , and i need to used it for all udp ports too
 
10:07 AM
@Hizqeel Hi Hizqeel ! :) What shall I do with this link ? How are you doing ? Everything fine ?
 
@ObadaDiab I posted a comment on your question. Hope it helps....
 
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Q: How to access a web application with a domain in a local network

yaylitzisUnder my network, I have setup an Ubuntu Server 16.04, which I have deployed some web applications which are accessible in the browser from http://192.168.0.4/myapplication. What, I want is to access myapplication in my local network only with a shorter url like http://srv/myapplication One ap...

 
thanks i will test it, i am going now for do something else, i will be back here, thanks in advance
 
@Thijser Don't forget that your IP address gets recorded and is visible ... :)
 
@cl-netbox and what is he going to do? Complain that while scamming me he got all of his outbound connections routed to horseporn?
 
10:16 AM
@Thijser well, such guys don't behave as expected ... even though they brake the law themselves, they might blame others ...
 
@cl-netbox we shall see, format C , while true; do; reg.exe /add HKCU/Software/Microsoft/Windows/CurrentVersion/Run/Startup/%RAND%=ill‌​egalhorse‌​porn… and export homepage=www.illegalhorseporn.com , let' s see how that goes
Now to provide tech support to an old lady
 
@Thijser hahaha ... cool :D
 
solved, thank you all
 
glad to hear it
 
10:20 AM
@ObadaDiab great ! :)
@WinEunuuchs2Unix Hi ! :)
 
Morning @cl-netbox
 
@WinEunuuchs2Unix How are you doing ? :)
 
@cl-netbox Pretty good... Busy writing scripts all the time lately... bash is beautiful :)
 
@WinEunuuchs2Unix nice, nice :)
 
lol i love this chat , i am happy to talk with real programmer hhhhhhh
 
10:27 AM
My latest project is to compare all the scripts I've posted in AU to files on my disk to see what has changed.
 
old lady has internet once again!
 
@Thijser nice - well done ! :)
 
ok time for me to go and do some other stuff, see you!
 
@Thijser goodbye - see you later ... :)
 
11:21 AM
Do we need a tag?
 
@Zanna what is it used for ?
 
Nothing haha
I am going to reject the edit
 
@Zanna yes good idea :)
 
Hahaha
I couldn't reject it, couldn't find it in the queue
But I think muru has dealt with it :)
 
11:46 AM
@Zanna was on an off-topic question, OP deleted the post
 
12:02 PM
@muru thanks, that got it and I was able to reject
I don't know how the queue decides when I can review what
(It now says you rejected, another reviewer approved, and I rejected with the same reason as you)
 
 
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1:52 PM
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Q: Should I be able to access a deleted question?

DanI'm not sure if this is a bug, or recent change to SE, but I am able to view a deleted question (my rep is only 4.7k): http://meta.askubuntu.com/questions/14971/feature-request-video-upload Disclaimer: The answer on that question is mine. But even so, this didn't used to be a reason for us to se...

 
@AskUbuntuMeta interesting... can someone with ,<10k take a look?
 
...At an answer/question he is involved with, yes, always I think
 
Dan
@JacobVlijm I'm 99.999% sure I wasn't able to access deleted questions before, even if i have answered them
 
same
well, maybe more like 89% in my case
Can't access the image... askubuntu.com/questions/62013/… is the answer any use whatsoever?
 
Dan
2:25 PM
Okay it seems that 0.001% won and I was wrong: http://askubuntu.com/help/deleted-answers.

> Deleted answers are also visible to the original author
I could swear that this annoyed the heck out of me once, when I couldn't view a deleted answer of mine
 
that's not the same
of course you can see your deleted answers
but can you see deleted questions just because you answered them?
that's the weird thing
 
2:50 PM
Accidentally deleted every data on my disk :(
any way to recover?
 
@Anwar Restore from backups. If you don't have backups, take a moment to kick yourself and, once that's done, stop using the computer immediately.
Then boot into a live session and spend several days wrestling with the file system and attempting to restore.
 
@terdon I got a bootable system. That's the whole thing spared apparently
a Kubuntu live iso
 
?
 
:(
 
I was using badblocks -ws (VERY DANGEROUS) to test disk errors
when it was 79% state I read in the manual that it re-writes the data!
 
2:54 PM
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Q: Ubuntu related Stack Overflow Careers ad

Ahmed JerbiWhy aren't there a "looking for a job" section in Askubuntu like other Stack Exchange sites ( stackoverflow , server fault .. ) I think it will be cool to show stack Overflow linux/ubuntu Careers ads.

 
I read an answer from Takkat confirming that the data are overwritten already
@terdon I ran the command from a Live Kubuntu
 
@Anwar Don't you create data backups regularly ?
 
@cl-netbox Na
 
Uhm. I guess you will from now on :(
 
@Anwar what can one say now ? maybe you learned to do that in the future.
Hi terdon !:)
 
2:58 PM
@Anwar sorry that happened! :(
 
I learned that never assume anything about a command, don't run command copied from a forum without knowing very well what it does
 
@Zanna sorry ? Is Anwar a newbie ? :D
 
no he is a guru... does that mean I should not be sorry for him?
 
@Anwar most important is to create data and system backups regularly ! :D
@Zanna of course we can be sorry ... though a guru could and should know what can happen - right ? :D
 
@cl-netbox Yeah. I know it. But I had my reasons ...
 
3:01 PM
@Anwar you could try and recover. it's not easy and it's not fun though.
 
@terdon in most cases data is somewhat damaged nevertheless :)
 
Yep
 
I've decided to install on the beginning of the disk and try recovering. The OS was at the beginning of the disk.
 
3:20 PM
hi all,
i need to ask if i can make exception for my ip on this rule

http://askubuntu.com/questions/895218/how-to-edit-this-rules-of-iptables-to-cover-all-ports
 
@Anwar good luck!
 
Dan
3:36 PM
yep
i can see both
 
@Dan so it would seem you can see them because you have an answer on them.
 
Yeah, but could he do son last month as well? I dunno if this is new or not, although I suspect you could always see deleted questions you've answered if you have the URL.
 
@edwinksl can you see this post? askubuntu.com/questions/798493/…
 
yeah
rip dead question
 
that's it then... you can see deleted questions if you answered them o.O
TIL
 
Dan
3:41 PM
@Zanna same here
so now i know i'm not being crazy, and this wasn't the case since forever
 
Anyone else in here having weird borders around their windows after updating to nvidia-375?
 
@Dan yeah I feel better too...
 
@RPiAwesomeness worse - my laptop refused to get to the login screen after the upgrade
 
Oh geez
 
hey fossy!
 
3:54 PM
le sigh. Why are nvidia drivers so bad with upgrades? >.<
 
hi @Seth :)
 
how's life? I've seen you on site but it's been a little while since I've seen you in chat :)
 
sigh ... tonight is not going to be a fun night trying to resurrect this thing :/
 
@Seth He is busy with budgie ! :) Hi Seth ! :)
 
hi!
I forgot he was doing budgie. It's made it a long way!
 
3:56 PM
@Seth busy ... busy ... busy ... just testing 17.04 Budgie. Cross fingers - think we have something good to roll with.
 
@fossfreedom awesome!
 
@fossfreedom I think you'll land a great success with that distro David ! :) Good luck for a flawless release ! :)
 
thanks ... its going to be a good release, especially given the very short time we have had to do this.
 
@fossfreedom Let's hope that screen detection works better than in solus ... the last ISOs I tested didn't recognize the screen correctly ... :D
 
@cl-netbox not aware of any issues in that area. I'll take that as good news!
 
4:01 PM
@fossfreedom great ! :) also no issues with NVIDIA drivers reported so far ? :)
 
with all the GNOME GTK+3.24 stuff landing, latest kernel, latest graphics ... going to be a very cutting edge release
 
@fossfreedom wow ... cool ! :) so ubuntu budgie tries to catch up on fedora ? nice ... :)
 
@cl-netbox again - nothing specifically that I have seen. Ubuntu does need testers though to iron out those last minute issues with the graphics stack.
 
@fossfreedom Is there the latest mesa version 17 also included in the final release ? :)
 
@cl-netbox its waiting an ack, as of this morning. Once the ok has been given it should land very soon - its just missed out on the beta2 ISOs. Hopefully as an update soon after.
 
4:08 PM
@fossfreedom Well that indeed is a very up-to-date linux distro then ... Congrats to you and your team ! Well done, very, very well done ! :)
 
ah - well - we are just a small cog in the very big Ubuntu juggernaut
 
@fossfreedom no no no ... in that short time frame, right out of nowhere you pushed a complete new distro to a stable official release ... hats off ! :)
 
:) yeah - late start - dailies only started in January - basically had to integrate everything from scratch. Haven't got much hair left ... :P
mind you ... for late starters - the Ubuntu Kylin crowd have only just got their new 17.04 desktop environment (UKUI) agreed today. They are going to be busy bees for the next 3 weeks!
 
@fossfreedom hahaha ... not much hair left ... nice :D :D :D I wish you all the very best for a successful release ! :) By the way, isn't Ikey a bit jealous ? :) You may overtake solus in usage rate soon ... :)
 
nah - we work together very well. what is good for solus works for us and visa versa - its better that way
 
4:17 PM
@fossfreedom nice ... this is something I appreciate very much ... collaboration instead of fighting each other ... goes absolutely into the right direction ! :)
 
absolutely
 
@fossfreedom unfortunately this was not the case with Jonathan and Canonical ... :(
 
less said about that matter the better - yeah I know what you mean.
 
@fossfreedom Although I am using original ubuntu, I think the other flavors contribute a lot of important work for the general rise of acceptance and adoption of linux desktop systems ! :)
 
absolutely - Ubuntu GNOME especially given that they have been tracking GTK+3.24 so closely this time around - alot of credit should be given to them for making the latest apps stable and available to all.
 
4:34 PM
@fossfreedom yes, I completely agree ... the new GNOME stack is very promising ... especially when it comes to graphics related things ! :)
@fossfreedom By the way David, you have to change your "outdated" photo on your website ... I am still seeing "too much hair" ! :D
 
lol !
 
@fossfreedom :D :D :D
 
5:16 PM
@Zanna Thanks. Just completed setup.
 
@Anwar And ? system back up and running ? :)
 
@cl-netbox Yes. I could install from a Live. But I haven't got the data yet
It's a pain to re-create every tweak to had on your system
 
@Anwar good to hear ... though I guess the data is lost forever :(
 
@cl-netbox hmm
 
@Anwar not necessarily ... I do that every six months ... :)
 
5:20 PM
Good
 
@Anwar It's a matter of how you plan and perform the (clean) installation :)
 
Thanks to etckeeper
 
6:03 PM
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Q: How to properly test arp cache poisoning locally

user222018So i downloaded ubuntu 12.0.4 off osboxes.org. I then created 1 image then cloned it for virtual box. How do I test arp cache poisoning if both images have the same ip address and default gateway? Both virtual machines have different mac addresses. May I ask what am I doing wrong? I want 1 virtu...

 
6:52 PM
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Q: how to configure sensu server with rabbitmq?

TigerI want to install sensu-server and sensu-client both on single node(ubuntu 14.04) for practical purpose. when i am using redis as transport it's working fine. but when i am trying to configure rabbitmq as transport than it's give me error. my configuration structure is: ├── conf.d │   ├── api.js...

 
Android O developer preview is also now live (my bet is on “Oreo” but I’m always wrong) https://developer.android.com/preview/download.html https://t.co/E4t5wa1nnl
 
most wanted feature: "disable safetynet" switch
 
Must. Download.
Immediately.
 
gg rekt
site is down. all of that page is now 404ing.
 
6:59 PM
Wat.
The platform isn't available in the SDK manager...
Also, RIP N6 users. No love for you.
 
I guess their security system that was unbreached just became pwned in a second.
 
@KazWolfe Probably the best thing that could have happened to them.
 
Especially since they were sending cc information in the clear.
 
Lol, did someone attempt a domain transfer?
@Seth That violates PCI.
They are in all kinds of trouble.
 
7:03 PM
It violates a bunch of things.
 
Welp. Poor guy is probably wishing he would have just left things alone.
 
@NathanOsman More likely someone just deleted the entire site.
 
@Seth I wonder if he still has a job.
 
@NathanOsman Like any corp. that doesn't care for their customers.
@NathanOsman You kidding?
 
@Seth Please tell me he got fired...
 
7:05 PM
From what I've read they were hacked something like 5 times before the site 404d..
 
Lol.
 
Honestly whoever deleted the entire site is doing them a favor right now..
 
And it sounds like SQL injection too. DON'T TELL ME... LET ME GUESS... PHP.
@Seth A long-term favor for sure.
They need to hire somebody competent.
 
Yeah... they were talking about losing business because of that warning... Now look at them lel
 
The level of stupid in that bug report is just overwhelming though.
 
7:09 PM
HAHA THE SITE WAS TRANSFERED
It's parked now omfg lol
 
> "Join in tomorrow for episode 2 - "What Backup?""
7 mins ago, by Nathan Osman
Lol, did someone attempt a domain transfer?
 
attempt... they succeeded
 
@KazWolfe Although Seth thinks it's just a parking page since the site was deleted.
(/var/www/html is missing, therefore show parking page.)
 
no, judging by their "security system" they were on a VPS.
or idk.
either way, everything just got rekt.
Whois is reporting same owner, but that may be caching.
 
@KazWolfe Yeah, only instead of a Virtual Private Server, that's a Virtually Private Server :P
Or a Vaguely Private Server.
Veritably Public Server
 
7:12 PM
VPS in this case: Very Poor Security
 
> Status
Domain Status:clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
 
@NathanOsman IIS/ASP it looks like
 
@KazWolfe Ah, yes, even better :)
The "i" in VPS stands for intelligence.
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@Seth good catch.
So we can rule that out.
@terdon Kinda like the "s" in "IoT" stands for "security"...? :D
4
 
Precisely.
 
7:15 PM
:D
 
Hey, some VPSes and IoT things are done right.
 
@KazWolfe VPS, absolutely. IoT, I have yet to hear of a single case.
 
@terdon RPi projects by sane people.
 
Ah. but is that really IoT? The RPi is a full-fledged (or almost) computer after all.
 
It can be used to turn non-IoT into IoT pretty effectively, so yes.
 
7:18 PM
Everyone must learn some valuable lessons:
1. NEVER send any sensitive data over HTTP. Ever.
2. NEVER concatenate strings to form an SQL query. Ever.
3. NEVER brag that your site is secure unless you are a large team of veteran security analysts.
Feel free to add items...
 
3.1. Unless you actually know what you're doing.
 
@KazWolfe Even then... you had better be sure.
 
4. NEVER be rude and condescending on Mozilla Bug Reports.
 
I feel fairly confident about my websites since I serve everything (literally everything) over TLS.
But I am not going to start bragging...
 
NEVER walk barefoot on glass. It's painful, you moron.
5
 
7:20 PM
^--- also good
 
I also feel relatively confident with my site's setup due to how it's configured and locked down, but no. I'm not going to go around saying my security system is impenetrable.
 
@terdon ...glass from broken Windows... (See what I did there?)
 
Heh
 
7:21 PM
@KazWolfe How do you define IoT then? I am very far from any sort of expert on the matter. To me it's a blanket term for any non-computery device that has an internet connection. You seem to be using a better defined term.
 
Also, since my websites run in Docker, anytime I want a backup, I can just stop everything, backup /data and then restart the containers.
Everything (DB, config files, media, uploads) is in /data.
Also, bcrypt.
 
@terdon I define IoT (simply) as any internet-connected device that senses, reports, and potentially manipulates the real world or items therein.
 
@KazWolfe Do printers count then?
They sense (scanner) and manipulate the world around them (throw paper across the room).
 
@NathanOsman Technically, yes. IoT devices tend to be persistent in my view, though.
 
@KazWolfe So any computer? Then what's the difference between IoT and what we've had for the past couple of decades?
 
7:23 PM
My printer runs embedded Linux (IIRC) and is always on.
 
@terdon Computers don't really sense and manipulate common household items too much.
 
I think of IoT as all these silly newfangled gadgets that are smarter than they have any reason to be and think they're even smarter than they are.
 
Time to portscan my printer for fun.
 
Okay, here, revised definition: IoT devices are internet-connected things that sense and act on events in the real world.
 
@KazWolfe Thanks. I was having trouble keeping my inner pedant down there :P
 
7:25 PM
nathan@nathan-desktop:~$ telnet 10.10.0.110 9220
Trying 10.10.0.110...
Connected to 10.10.0.110.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 HP GGW server (version 1.0) ready
Interesting...
 
Where acting can be activating the air conditioner (IoT thermostat), pinging a user about low milk, etc.
 
I just think we're moving waaaaay too fast on this. The potential for abuse is enormous and they seem to have sort of ignored the whole security issue.
 
IoT devices can also create events in the real world. So, an IoT water heater turning up the temperature.
 
I also find the idea of having a device that records conversations around absolutely terrifying.
 
@terdon "WiFi Enabled" == $$$
 
7:27 PM
Yeah. Exactly.
 
@NathanOsman 1: NEVER send any data over HTTP. Ever.
There, fixed it.
 
@Seth well, no, there are good reasons to send data over HTTP, but nothing remotely sensitive.
 
Buy our new blender! It's WiFi enabled, so you can see its RPMs live on your computer!
 
@KazWolfe Like?
 
(for example, establishing a connection with very little overhead or similar. stuff like heartbeats)
 
7:28 PM
I was looking for that and, wouldn't you know it, the first hit was an actual bluetooth toothbrush. The world is getting sillier by the second.
 
@KazWolfe meh, the overhead is hardly worth mentioning anymore and only gets smaller every year.
 
>It records brushing activity as data that you can chart on your own and share with dental professionals.
 
Or if your communication layer doesn't need to be secure.
 
You have got to be kidding me. . .
 
For example, multicast. I often send insecure messages across my entire network to my servers. (Therefore, I don't need to open up a TLS connection with each box)
 
7:30 PM
@KazWolfe okay that actually makes sense.
 
Of course, nothing actually important. Stuff like "new server added to pool" or "software update available"
then, each server can open a secured request to the actual trusted server (using data already stored on them) and do whatever they need to.
 
@Seth why would I care about https if I am not sending sensitive data? Honest question.
 
@terdon helps prevent MITM
 
Hmm. Fair point.
 
For example, Seth, I post software update binaries to updates.somesite.internal (say version 1.2.3) and then I just send a multicast to all my servers saying basically "new software update, version 1.2.3, hash blahblah". Then the servers all download from updates.somesite.internal/update-1.2.3.xrf over TLS and then extract/install/restart/whatevs.
 
7:40 PM
@KazWolfe yeah, I know what you're saying. It's not critical, so it'd work. Although software version information can be something you really don't want leaking all over your network.
 
@Seth Servers have their own subnet, and the version is on every hosted page so it doesn't really matter.
 
@Seth Serving static content on a separate domain still makes sense over HTTP.
That way cookies aren't included and there is no overhead for TLS.
But yeah, even then MITM is still a problem.
Without some sort of client hash thing.
Okay, fair point. Never mind. Carry on :D
 
People need to stop using overhead as an excuse to use HTTP. TLS overhead is ridiculously low now and HTTP 2 will require TLS.
or bake it in. Can't remember which.
 
Oh, I did think of another reason, but it's mostly anecdotal: local testing.
Ever tried to test locally with HTTPS? Yeah.
 
fair enough. local testing makes sense.
 
7:45 PM
Correct, overhead is negligible. Unless you are on a private network transferring massive amounts of data, TLS just makes sense.
(Example: NitroShare supports TLS over private networks, but it is disabled by default since it can affect transfer speeds. We're talking gigabit connections here.)
 
So, rewrite: Unless you have an exceedingly good reason that HTTPS can not even be adopted under current tech, use HTTPS.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in title: Gmail tech support number by aditya chunar on askubuntu.com
 
In other words, if you can use HTTPS, use HTTPS.
@SmokeDetector um.... that's just very very very low quality.
 
@KazWolfe Not sure how it is meant, but the text is total crap. Deliberately it looks.
 
@NathanOsman Sorry, I just can't help myself.
 
7:57 PM
You can't help himself :)
 
@JacobVlijm well, nuked now.
 
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