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Byte Commander

1:01 AM

@Fabby can I also get one at 44444? :D

Fabby

(Y)

Byte Commander

Only problem is that you don't know where I live, so probably you'll have to eat it yourself :P

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

@ByteCommander send him your email, you'll get cake.exe, with built in Trojans and Keyloggers

Byte Commander

sounds like a wonderful idea

Fabby

I had a colleague who used to collect viruses...

(Back in the stone age when the only thing they did was play foolishness)

Byte Commander

1:05 AM

used to? so one broke out?

Fabby

like drop 1 character per minute from your DOS screen to the bottom

@ByteCommander there were like 10 or 12 viruses around...

when there were like 25 around, he stopped collecting.

Byte Commander

oh, I thought you said stone age, not prehistoric times ;)

Fabby

At the time it was for assembly programmers only as you had to cram your virus in the boot sector.

Videonauth

@Fabby i remeber having freaked my IT teacher out back in middle school. we had those olivetti m24 machines there and i managed to get my small assembler in the clocks cache and spread through the whole classroom

all it did was at boot time use logo routines to paint a skull and crossbone

Fabby

Wow! Logo!

It was supposed to be the next BASIC...

Videonauth

1:11 AM

@Fabby in fact i loved it really

Fabby

Back n my time there was ASM, C, ForTRAN, COBOL and Pascal

Byte Commander

Yep, and in my time, whole schools full of XP machines are infected with Confickers, so every time I plugged my USB stick in, I had to manually purge that darn virus off it again before taking it home (for which I later wrote a batch script...)

Fabby

I did about a week of Logo

@ByteCommander :D :D :D

Videonauth

yes that where times, i hated pascal tbh

Fabby

I liked pascal: it compiled much faster than C on a floppy drive.

Videonauth

1:15 AM

espeically those big comment headers my teacher alsways wanted us to do

Fabby

My first programming language was BASIC, then ASM, then C, then PASCAL, then C again

Videonauth

like:
###############################################
## Program start
###############################################

Fabby

then X86 ASM, then office BASIC...

(lots of money in that one)

then SQL

Videonauth

Delphi

:D

Fabby

nope

Videonauth

1:17 AM

dbase

Fabby

RBASE!

Forgot that! in the army!

Videonauth

and playing elite in class lol freaked my teacher as well :D

Fabby

CP/M was my first OS, DOS, Netware 2, Xenix, NT, AIX, NetWare 3

Videonauth

and which machine? Commodore PET?

Fabby

no, home-built.

Videonauth

1:22 AM

well im a few years younger than you , my fist computer was a sinclair and before that a tiny tiger

Fabby

I subscribed to the local computer club and bought a printer before I bought a computer

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

I need to get back to C some time again

Fabby

so some other guy could print off the schematics for the computer I could build

Anyway, I'm going to shut down for the night: 8h of driving to do tomorrow...

Videonauth

sleep well

Fabby

Good night all!

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

1:28 AM

printf "%s\n" "Sleep well"

Fabby

no NTFS still not solved, but my temperature problem looks much better...

The big culprit was the temperature monitor I was using:

it's apparently written in python...

how I hate interpreted languages...

anyway: Hasta la vista, baby!

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

looks over at all shell interpreters

Videonauth

@Fabby But I have no visa?

Videonauth

2:29 AM

weird that sudo apt-key del not removes the keys, i had this in 17.04 and thought ok it might be because of my upgrade from 16.10 but 17.10 fresh install does the same

bleps

blops

blogs

blopers

blatantly blops

3:00 AM

OK, I broke my clipboard

I've been trying to copy same set of commands from terminal to chrome, and i keep crashing crome tabs where i try to paste the code

Videonauth

then you shalt reboot

:D

Seth

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy special characters?

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

Nope, nothing special. I guess fate just didn't want me to post things. But I still did

It's the last example in askubuntu.com/a/977175/295286 Absolutely redundant and useless, but I did manage to fcedit, then output to file , and xclip output.txt and copy that over

Videonauth

i usually pipe into xclip too made me extra an alias for that so i only have to do for example cat text.txt | toclip

alias toclip='xclip -sel clip'

TheWanderer

guys saygus.com/v2-2

5" 1080p, IR, removable battery, 3.5mm jack, official root + multi-boot, SD835

!!!!!!

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

3:15 AM

I've a function for copying scripts into answers. Sed adds 4 leading spaces to file given by $1 and xclip copies it

TheWanderer

dual-SD slots!

Videonauth

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy you know sharing is caring :)

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

@TheWanderer but does it run DeadBadger OS ?

TheWanderer

wat

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

@Videonauth will share in a min, I'm on phone

Videonauth

3:17 AM

ok drop me ping when you do, im actually on the way to bed 4:16 am here

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

@TheWanderer it's a joke reversal. Original joke is "Running Linux on Dead Badger" Google it

Videonauth

strangehorizons.com/non-fiction/articles/…

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

$ typeset -f indent_copy
indent_copy() {
	sed "s/^/    /" "$@" | xclip -sel clip
}

@Videonauth that's the function 4 spaces in sed

nevermind typeset -f part

I'm using mksh as my interactive shell

Actually, what I wanna do someday is just make one file to rule them all, POSIX compliant list of functions, put them up on github, and when I need to move OSes just git clone that and be done

Videonauth

yep im thinking about something similar for my script collection and so on

espeically for all the VMs i set up

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

One cool thing about PowerShell is that they have a gallery, i.e. a website where community can post scripts. There was something like that for Linux, but it's just a community list of commands, not full scripts

Videonauth

3:26 AM

https://www.amazon.com/Installing-Linux-Dead-Badger-Snyder/dp/1894953479

Includes: Shocking Linux Gang Mayhem ~ Trolls Gone Wild
Your Corporate Network And The Forces of Darkness ~
A Vampire's Guide to Management ~ And Much, Much More!

LOL

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

O_o this . . .exists . . .holy Ritchie and Thompson

I wonder if someone actually bought that

Videonauth

I will with my next amazon order lol

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

Well, I guess that'll go in my wish list as well

Videonauth

i have one here which i as well liked a lot reading, im just not sure if its avilable in english

the title is translted to "the dark art of programming c++"

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

YES! I found the site: commandlinefu.com/commands/browse/sort-by-votes

And some people post spam commands there . . .which are not commands at all, just either IP or URLs . . .danging

Videonauth

3:36 AM

Suse vivo vixi victum reduco is ea id creatura absit decessus a facultas Linux! Dev root, dev root!

omg im laughing so hard here right now

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: apt-get broken after partial update to 16.04 from 14.04

I updated my Dell OEM linux machine from 14.04 to 16.04. Something went wrong during the upgrade and when I tried to login it got stuck in a loop I managed to fix it using the tty terminal and manually connect to wifi using wpa_supplicant. My apt-get is now stuck with 33 not fully installed or re...

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

Oh, somebody came up with a spell to summon Devil Tux. At least it's not Perl for summoning Cthulu

Videonauth

no im readin installing linux on a dead badger lol

you can read it here strangehorizons.com/non-fiction/articles/…

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

I've read it once in the past

Videonauth

Im in tears right now laughing

translate.google.com/#auto/en/…!

this setence i posted above actually makes sense too

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

3:43 AM

XD reduce maintenance

Seth

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy Is ksh POSIX?

Videonauth

If the badger does not respond at all to the boot incantation, call Twisted Faces' tech support. Make sure to try all other troubleshooting options first. After two free calls, tech support will cost you an arm and a leg . . . and they'll only accept fresh, gangrene-free limbs.

hahahaha

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

@Seth ksh is POSIX compliant, but we could probably say POSIX is ksh . . . it seems like a lot of POSIX was based on Bourne and Korn shells

Seth

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy well yes, they were the 2 major originals :)

I really wish my school offered a computer/linux history class. That would be awesome.

Most of what I know of history is pieced together from various SE posts. Mostly by Gilles :P

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

I was about to say that. Just read any answer from Stephane Chazelas or Gilles on U&L. They're basically walking encyclopedias of anything *nix

Seth

3:52 AM

yeah, Stephane's are great too.

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

Also, reading old books about Unix can be interesting. I've a Unix System V book I found in Goodwill once.

It proudly sits on my shelf, which I read sometimes for inspiration and occasionally for crafting answers

Videonauth

wall talk to you guys later, I'm going in hibernation mode for a few hours

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

Sleep well :)

Seth

goodnight!

Icche Guri

6:11 AM

I am facing a severe error in ths question :

askubuntu.com/questions/977935/…

Please help me

Journeyman Geek

6:37 AM

@IccheGuri ehh. throwing links to your questions on chat isn't the greatest way to get people to look at it

alllsoooo

Its off topic ;p

AU is for ubuntu questions. Why are you asking redhat questions on AU?

Icche Guri

Where should I ask it ?

Journeyman Geek

Ah, that's the question you should have started off with.

hmm. U&L's recommended in the close reasons. SU might work, but almost anything involving a PC's on topic on SU. Maybe even SF

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

9:23 AM

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Q: Removing all characters except certain pattern?

Lets say I have this line of text: #cat numbers.txt Numbers!!!! John=55 May=43 RandomData Alex=72 Ben=90 End But am only interested in the number John's number. How do I remove all the other stuff that I don't want and turn the output into: #cat numbers.txt | <some command line magic> John=55

linux shell-script shell ubuntu rhel

Ask Ubuntu Meta

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Q: why the hatred....only here

why the hatred? Only on askubuntu is just about every question down-voted. take this: failed to start dockerd after installing docker with snap (artful, 17.10) even when there is a comment, like "what is the environment", generally that's in the question. There's nothing wrong with the quest...

discussion

Fabby

10:12 AM

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Ubuntu Questions on U&L

11:55 AM

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Q: Got a problem executing my script in Ubuntu VPS

when im trying to start my script in my vps it say: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token (' line 1:var Steam = require("steam"); im doing bash donation.js. Im going to past the start of the script here: var Steam = require("steam"); var SteamUser = require ("steam-user"); var client = ne...

ubuntu scripting vps

Ask Ubuntu Meta

12:14 PM

1

Q: Why was this small but important edit rejected?

https://askubuntu.com/review/suggested-edits/777606 The answer contains three incorrect paths, based on my understanding and limited experience and on another's comment. I'm not sure how extensive the implications of boot/ being present when it shouldn't be are, but I suspect it's potentially im...

discussion suggested-edits

TheWanderer

3:33 PM

kek

Leaked Audio, EA and Disney: The Phone call.

►

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

4:40 PM

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Q: How to change autologin from root to non-root user?

I have installed Ubuntu server 16.04 with Openbox. and put this command startx inside /etc/rc.local to have graphics after boot. but the problem is that it automatically logins as root user, and because of this, my C++ program doesn't work correctly(As I asked before, they say it's because the ro...

ubuntu login root openbox x-server

RobotHumans

@TheWanderer - brilliant.

terdon

5:57 PM

@Videonauth Sorry, I wasn't around. But you do realize we always look at flags, right? Pinging someone won't make us find the time to do it faster. Unless this is somehow very urgent (like spam, or offensive posts), just wait and someone will deal with your flags as soon as they find time :)

Videonauth

but as what shall i flag such stuff?

if i look at the flag descriptions none of them fit really and i dont like the thought of swamping you guys in flag for mod attention stuff

Byte Commander

6:34 PM

I think compared to a chat ping, a custom mod flag generates much less noise...

Not to forget that in case of the flag, it can be handled by any mod who might have time first, not only by the one you pinged.

Personally, I'd only go for ping (or both) in case of something really urgent, like someone posting dangerous stuff or personal data that should be removed quickly...

dessert

interesting! what's some dangerous stuff one can post, for example?

Seth

I don't mind pings, but it's always easier if accompanied by a custom flag for anything remotely serious or standard.

@dessert People have posted private keys.

IanC

6:51 PM

man, sometimes when I see how many classes I have to create on CSS to get around some styling issues and I wonder if I'm doing things the right way and that's supposed to happen or if I'm just sinking in bad practices :p

dessert

@Seth omfg – so what do i du besides flagging and pinging, especially if neither of you is around? is editing it away a solution? at least one can't see it without visiting the history then…

Videonauth

yes editing or asking the user to at least delte the post and repost

this way only 10k plus people are able to see it

dessert

ok – how much rep do you need to see the edit history btw?

Videonauth

i think you always can see it, you do not even need to be logged in

at least i can see edit histories on SE sites where i have no account

IanC

what did you guys think of this new firefox layout?

Videonauth

7:06 PM

im not very fond of the new firefox overall, but that is more of the missing apis which even dont allow add-on devs to update their software

the layout well i liked tho old one tbh

IanC

yeah, I'm still getting used to this new one

@Videonauth I didn't get it, what is different about it regarding the add-ons?

Videonauth

well i have for example add.ons for managing my logins, which i really liked but the new firefox has no api anymore for that kind of add-ons, and the ones who have something similar functionality all need myself to log in to a website, saving my keys in a cloud or somewhere else

maybe they make it to include that api back in firefox 58 but thats not sure

so im still using 56

Seth

@dessert Yeah, editing it out can be helpful. Mods have a tool to completely delete it from the public history (might even remove it at DB level, I forget), but it requires 2 mods to approve that and sometimes it takes time.

@IanC Hasn't hit 16.04 yet so no comment :(

dessert

@Seth oh, so like the enterprise self-destruction :)

i like it

Seth

haha, kinda like that :)

dessert

7:14 PM

do you also have a little key for that?

is there a countdown? =)

Videonauth

@Seth then you missed updates ... 16.04 has it already since the 16th

Seth

hm, I'll check.

Videonauth

Seth

oh yep, there's a firefox update there.

Videonauth

just confirmed in my 16.04 VM : which was last updates on the 16th

IanC

7:18 PM

@Videonauth crap, I don't have many addons so I hadn't realized that until you mentioned it now

both of them are out of the GUI

dessert

Guys: meet Vivaldi.

vivaldi.com

Seth

ooh, well. Initial impression is I like it.

@dessert Tried it multiple times.

Videonauth

@IanC yep the ones i used are password-exporter and saved password editor

dessert

i went from firefox to chromium and still wasn't satisfied, but vivaldi – it's unbelievable.

but maybe not for everyone.

Seth

I just found it too slow. And it used tons of RAM.

Chromium is at least fast when it uses tons of RAM.

IanC

7:25 PM

@Videonauth I used the session-manager (or saver, not sure) and another one that was supposed to update a page in a timeout interval, which I was using to test new CSS layouts on a webpage

Videonauth

yep other two i really miss still in the new firefox is noscript and flashgot

both are not yet updated for 57

and fireFTP is dead, wont get updates because there as well the api does not support it anymore and the author decided to not maintain it anymore for firefox

now i have to find an FTP programm to use

dessert

vivaldi comes with a session manager as well as a tab suspend feature – no need to fiddle with too much addons ;P

IanC

@Videonauth even noscript doesn't work now? I thought only the GUI elements were broken, like you can't interact with the add-on but it would still be functioning on the background

and cant you use the linux netkit ftp client?

Videonauth

oh there are many clients i could use, still i liked to fireFTP add on because i always have my browser open and having ftp inside a tab was simply nice

IanC

I'm thinking if I downgrade my firefox, but so far I'vent missed the addons so much

session-manager was useful though

@dessert I think I heard of vivaldi, but never used it

well, gotta start getting ready for work

see yall later!

Videonauth

7:40 PM

askubuntu.com/q/978144/522934 no onebox

Seth

@Videonauth Opinionated jerk. Seems to fit the bill.

Videonauth

yep well can you remove my message, the hotbox does not have to stay here

Seth

fixed. I can remove it if you really want.

Videonauth

thanks thats enough

sad the edit grace period is very short

i had a hard time not commenting on that question :) to not feed the troll

Kaz Wolfe

yo @Seth, i have more things re everyone's favorite user

might be irrelevant, but eh.

dessert

7:56 PM

i'm too new to AU to experience a mod election, where can I read about how it works? reading askubuntu.com/election it seems there was no election this year – why?

Kaz Wolfe

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A: When are the 2017 elections?

Moderator elections are not scheduled events. Instead, they are brought up as the need arises, namely when more moderators are considered "needed." As you can see from the elections list, there was no scheduled election for 2015, because no new moderators were needed. To be more exact, moderator...

Seth

@KazWolfe k

Videonauth

i think that post was mentioned in one of todays meta questions too

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: coil whine on kubuntu when idle

My pc has Kubuntu 17.04 and windows 10 setup with dual boot. When i boot to kubuntu as soon as the login screen shows i hear high pitch coil whine sound from my pc. I disabled all the power states on my bios (i know it can cause it). It didn't help. whenever theres a little load on the cpu the...

linux ubuntu cpu power-management kubuntu

Kaz Wolfe

/usr/local/bin/wut

dessert

8:09 PM

@KazWolfe thanks!

Kaz Wolfe

@dessert np

i'd hazard a guess that the next elections will be june 2018 unless something weird happens.

Byte Commander

@KazWolfe probably tried to edit, accidentally deleted everything, panicked, submitted, re-edited to ask for forgiveness that he screwed up

Kaz Wolfe

or we don't experience much growth compared to now. our current mods seem to be doing okay handling the flag queues (though i can't see how many there are)

Byte Commander

@Fabby Did you know the area enclosed by this curve is exactly PI?

dessert

@KazWolfe most important thing i learned from your answer is that mods don't get replaced – how many mods does AU have currently?

Kaz Wolfe

8:21 PM

@dessert Currently twelve.

Mods can voluntarily step down if they want, or they can be forcibly removed if things go really wrong.

Seth

@KazWolfe well that is odd

@KazWolfe Honestly we need more people to answer regularly than we do moderators.

Kaz Wolfe

I would tend to agree.

I still think we have the worst answer rate of any question on SE

oh, not anymore. sweet!

we're still only at 67% though...

Seth

10th from the bottom.. still pretty bad :(

67% is an uptick I think though

Videonauth

many of the very old unanswered could be weeded out tbh

many cant pe reproduced even at this time

dessert

@Seth copy that, but if a question is not properly tagged it is hard to find

dessert

9:06 PM

a question with an answer which didn't get accepted still counts as unanswered, am i right there?

Seth

no. If there's an answer with one upvote it counts as answered

dessert

ok, that's something.

Videonauth

same with closed / duplicate questions, they as well not count in the unanswered stack

and answering an old question and getting at least two upvotes on your answer will give nice badges :)

askubuntu.com/help/badges/62/revival?userid=522934 ...

dessert

oh, really nice!

now that's incentive :)

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: Cannot login to Elementary OS

Newly installed elementary os in legacy mode, After upgrading and Tweaking in desktop, I rebooted laptop it greeted me with this screen, it does not detecting entering input my password and even I entered correct password it again reloads to login screen. Cannot login to the ui please help.... ...

ubuntu gnu-screen login-manager

dessert

9:19 PM

@Videonauth btw, i really like to learn that there are so many german fellows around here – congrats on being the latest discovery!

Videonauth

oh i thought this way apparent knowledge by now :)

dessert

well, I'm a newbie…

btw, did we find out whether the comment-means-audit-failed thing is a bug? I'd really like to hear a mod's opinion…

7

Q: Adding a comment = audit failed?

I just failed my first audit on this question. I got the question in first post review where it was displayed without any comment, I began writing a comment suggesting to add a screenshot to clearify and draw attention. After that I wanted to upvote and move on, but instead I already failed the ...

discussion bug audits

Kaz Wolfe

An SE employee was pinged about it

They'll respond eventually (read: once it's next on their backlog)

dessert

@Videonauth your advice on that however helped a lot plus taught me the verb “to fret” ;)

Videonauth

:)

dessert

9:28 PM

@KazWolfe because of the “bug” tag i suppose? ok, thanks!

Seth

@dessert I'd imagine it's a bug, but, of course, I can't say for sure.

IMO they shouldn't let you finish writing a comment before telling you it's an audit. That's a massive waste of time, as one commenter noted.

Try reproducing it.

Videonauth

@dessert i know its not very common used but still i like it

Seth

@KazWolfe Oh?

dessert

@Seth I will, thank you!

Kaz Wolfe

@Seth bug

also...

> comments disabled on deleted / locked posts / reviews

Seth

9:30 PM

@KazWolfe some anyway. Depends on what queue you're in.

Kaz Wolfe

something is definitely not documented/done well here

Seth

for sure.

Videonauth

today i failed an audit too, for a valid but deleted answer

happens

dessert

how many audits do you have to fail to suffer consequences?

Videonauth

not sure

but its more than two :)

Kaz Wolfe

9:44 PM

i don't think it's a set count

Videonauth

never thought about what algorithm is behind it and such but i know that i was able to review on after two on a day

Kaz Wolfe

i think it scales on how good you are at reviewing

Videonauth

i also think its a percentage

Kaz Wolfe

so more reviews = more failed audits needed

Videonauth

and well the consequences are not final anyways, i think 3 days review ban it is

Kaz Wolfe

9:47 PM

i think if you fail enough you'll be permaban'd

or at least long enough for it to be effectively permanent

dessert

a percentage would make sense

@KazWolfe banned from reviewing or banned from AU?

Videonauth

@dessert banned from review

al i can say i failed a fair share of audits but on the other side i have a steward badge in almost all review ques that are available to me

the only one where i have yet to get badges is the reopen que

Charles Green

10:25 PM

@KazWolfe I wrote an answer I'm not really happy with - would you care to review https://askubuntu.com/a/978056/283721

Kaz Wolfe

sure, gimme a moment

i'd recommend you just keep one solution (ideally, reinstall the correct libc6)

it shouldn't break anything, but yaknow

otherwise, looks ok. +1

Charles Green

It might break whatever it was the OP installed that required libc6...

It just feels unsatisfying not having a positive "This will make your system all better" type of answer.

Kaz Wolfe

i'd say op shouldn't play with versions unless they know what they're doing

there are some situations we get in where there's no good option, sadly.

Charles Green

Not so much just the version, but apparently they used a Debian package of some kind. They don't wan't to fess up what it was, and I'd need to try a dpkg reverse depends to start searching...

Seth

@dessert it's a rolling ratio

Videonauth

10:36 PM

@Seth care to elaborate?

eli5 please :D

Seth

well, it takes some other things into account too, but the gist of it is x number of failed audits in the last y reviews

Videonauth

o.k. so lets say i reviewed all que's on a day which would make 100 reviews and i fail lets say 4 this would make a 4% failure rate .... mhmm makes sense

Ask Ubuntu Meta

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Q: Should a post be flagged as spam if an author is clearly *not affiliated* with the promotion?

While I was going through the review queues today, I came across this answer: My original reaction was to flag it as spam, but then I reread the description under the spam flag: spam Exists only to promote a product or service, does not disclose the author's affiliation. This answer ...

discussion flagging spam-handling

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