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Zanna

11:10 AM

oh this answer is bad! askubuntu.com/questions/454576/…

edwinksl

lol which answer

Zanna

sorry, the accepted one!

edwinksl

omg

yeah

Zanna

at least it doesn't give 7 for o

edwinksl

lol i wonder how many came across this answer and did as written

Zanna

11:15 AM

:(

edwinksl

maybe should put a warning at the beginning of the post

Zanna

the author is active, hopefully he will respond to my comment

edwinksl

oh right jos

@Zanna ahhahahaahahaha reddit.com/r/linuxmasterrace/comments/5likgm/…

Zanna

11:37 AM

@edwinksl XD

off topic I think askubuntu.com/questions/867049/…

edwinksl

oh already closed

Zanna

ah thanks, I just wanted it to close quickly so I can delete vote before I lose all my votes in the LQP queue

edwinksl

we should let you have 40 CVs in the queues

Zanna

urgh I'd never get out of the house...

Fabby

11:55 AM

@Zanna upvote already. Let's see if one of the ods has something more intelligent to say than you! ;)

Zanna

haha we can take that as a given :)

thanks for the upvote :)

edwinksl

@Zanna that's good; rest of us get to slack :)

Zanna

lol on that note, I'm going for a walk without having even looked at the CV queue (but, obvs, I will do it later ;))

solsTiCe

12:17 PM

why is the post removed ?

the talk by @SmokeDetector

Journeyman Geek

Iirc if a post is cleared fast enough smokey will self delete

solsTiCe

@JourneymanGeek ok

Zanna

12:35 PM

Yeah, within the two-minute window when posts can be edited by non-mods

Zacharee1

1:06 PM

Smokey should be chat mod

@edwinksl lol, the voting arrows xD

jokerdino

1:24 PM

Nice hat @Zanna.

Zacharee1

1:40 PM

sigh askubuntu.com/questions/867092/…

HEY IF I USE CAPSLOCK PEOPLE WILL INSTANTLY THINK I'M MORE IMPORTANT THAN EVERYONE ELSE

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karel

bogus close voting as unclear on this question which continued even after I already posted a warning about it. When coupled as it is with malicious downvoting as it is this form of behavior is sad.

Zacharee1

@karel I voted unclear too, because I don't know what they've tried, if anything. Your comment came far after my CV, so it didn't continue after that.

@karel it is not malicious downvoting. I downvoted, because it literally shows no research effort whatsoever. Stop antagonizing

karel

I thought it was downvoted by the first person who close voted it who is one hundred times more antagonistic than I am, but please retract your unclear vote anyway because railroading clear questions closed as unclear is imperious.

Zacharee1

I don't think the question is clear though. It shows no research effort, and I don't know if they've tried anything yet.

karel

no research effort != unclear

Zacharee1

1:47 PM

I just also explained why I think it's unclear

Journeyman Geek

@karel it might not be malicious. Tim Post may have lost his keys meta.stackexchange.com/a/215397/135565

karel

When Ubuntu users see clear question frequently closed as unclear they will get the impression that Ask Ubuntu is reviewed by dictators. What's the point of having a Meta site if reviews if "I don't know much about this topic"=unclear and "I don't like the question even though the answer is objective"=primarily opinion based?

Journeyman Geek

also, reading the question I'm thinking he's meaning computer games... and there's only MDK 1 and 2 right?

Zacharee1

@karel will you please stop antagonizing me like that? I told you, I'm not doing this just for funsies; I think the question is unclear

karel

mdk3 is shown clearly in the second screenshot of my answer (as well as Bully). I also commented below the question to ask reviewers to look at the two screenshots which taskes less than a minute to do.

Zacharee1

1:55 PM

@karel your answer doesn't make the question any less unclear

user136984

@karel: This is a dictatorship. What are you talking about?

Zacharee1

because I still don't know if they've tried that yet

Zanna

@jokerdino <3 no idea what I did for this hat

karel

I'm not antagonizing you. You don't do this habitually even though you're baiting me now, partially in self-defense so I understand and forgive you for it. It's the other reviewer who makes me mad. He does this all the time and after talking to him personally twice I gave up. Having to use chat in this situation is a drag and I wouldn't do it if I had any other choice.

Journeyman Geek

IU?

@karel though, the question itself needs to be clear. I've had a few situations where I've seen an interesting question, and based on the information in the question, researched out an answer. The question is... terrible. Your answer is good.

and ugh

I'd want to have edits there reviewed

time to drag out the sock

Zanna

2:03 PM

I agree that the question cannot be that unclear if someone can give a clear answer to it (and therefore it is answerable). It is clear enough to someone who knows about the topic...

I always vote to leave open if the question has a good answer

Journeyman Geek

@karel @Zanna askubuntu.com/questions/867071/…

Zanna

And is voted unclear

Journeyman Geek

I try to improve the question if that's the case

Zanna

Having said that though, I have one accepted answer to a question closed as unclear that makes me laugh... I don't really mind it being closed as it is indeed unclearly phrased hahaha

@JourneymanGeek of course :) me too. I edit a lot

Journeyman Geek

(aibobot's my sock, for things like this)

karel

2:07 PM

Tagging the question with katoolin would be uncool under the circumstances, so I tagged it with kali-linux-tools instead because the OP already knew that.in my opinion.

Journeyman Geek

which is fine

I do think 1) linking to the tools 2) mentioning these tools are from kali improves the context here

and at the very least handles @muru's comment

Zacharee1

Catboard

Byte Commander

NAA askubuntu.com/a/860274/367990

Zanna

@Zacharee1 super kawaii

Zacharee1

yehs

katwaii

Zanna

2:17 PM

facepalm one of those days askubuntu.com/questions/867096/…

Zacharee1

ikr

just saw in review

ppl pls stahp chmodding ur rootz

cl-netbox

Good afternoon ... hello everybody ! :)

Thomas Ward

2:29 PM

grumbles something about the flags queue being five pages long this morning due to that

Byte Commander

Well, I offered to take the job last summer, but you and terdon had to take it - now you have to do it. :P

Thomas Ward

:P

Zacharee1

@ThomasWard I didn't flag any comments???

Thomas Ward

someone did, but you guys could've cleaned up your comments too

in any case, cleared now, anyone got an ibuprofen for my headache?

I woke up with a headache today

Zacharee1

what comments?

Thomas Ward

2:34 PM

and no it's not booze-induced

@Zacharee1 nuked comments >:D

Zacharee1

context?

oh is this that really badly written post?

Thomas Ward

about two pages of comments worth of "Was this spam?" "This seemed like it could've been spam" "What are yo uactually asking"... etc.

brb medicine time

and we're back

oooh the coffee's ready back in a bit again xD

Zanna

2:47 PM

@ThomasWard sorry about that...

Shoulda just custom-flagged the post

Zacharee1

why askubuntu.com/questions/779688/…

Zanna

@ByteCommander I don't think volunteering for a task should automatically and eternally remove your right to have a good moan about it

Zacharee1

3:04 PM

@Zacharee1 @ThomasWard nuke pls

pls

@ThomasWard you should also nuke some CVs

Kaz Wolfe

@Zacharee1 You should become a mod and deal with it yourself.

And you won't be allowed to sleep as long as there's a single question in the flag or close queue.

Zacharee1

@KazWolfe with you and @edwinksl I doubt that'll happen

@KazWolfe Joke's on you; I can't sleep anyway

Kaz Wolfe

I mean, no sleep. At all.

Can't have alcohol or coffee or anything either, nothing that impairs your judgement in the slightest.

Zacharee1

3:20 PM

sleep deprivation impairs judgement much more than intoxication or caffeine

Kaz Wolfe

And you get to deal with all the users spamming you to clear things.

Zacharee1

I'll just suspend everyone and be done with it

TheXed

Hello.

Kaz Wolfe

And then meta will complain about you.

jokerdino

@Zanna I heard lots of creative people don't know how they created any piece of magic <3

Zacharee1

3:21 PM

@KazWolfe I'll delete the posts and suspend them

Kaz Wolfe

@Zacharee1 Then they'll tread into MSE.

Where you have no power.

I'll DDoS SE

And screencapped.

lol

@jokerdino its true, we just guess...

@jokerdino that is why it is unique...we will never be able to recreate it again.

Kaz Wolfe

3:22 PM

@Zanna Deleting comments.

also, i'm right on the rose parade route.

this will be fun/annoying.

Zacharee1

wut

Kaz Wolfe

yaknow the big parade today?

Zacharee1

no

Kaz Wolfe

My employer has an office right on the route.

Thomas Ward

@Zacharee1 I lazy :)

actually i'm quite busy today

Zacharee1

3:29 PM

pls

Thomas Ward

lots of post-new-years crap to get done (i'm on chat via my phone)

Kaz Wolfe

go nuke your own close-votes.

there are only 61 in queue.

fix that using F12.

Journeyman Geek

@KazWolfe >_>

Zacharee1

@KazWolfe how do I do the queue if I've already done it?

show me your haxxor ways

Kaz Wolfe

select the queue cont, and set to 0.

Journeyman Geek

3:30 PM

@Zacharee1 the queue is never really empty...

Zacharee1

@JourneymanGeek wat

I reached my limit for today

Journeyman Geek

@Zacharee1 right now the queue on my site has a flag I'd rather not touch (since it involves a decision I made) , and where I commented hoping the user would do the right thing ;p

but you constantly get flags ;p

Zacharee1

??

Byte Commander

3:56 PM

Funny troll on Academia.SE metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/post/52074 (first sentence xD)

TheXed

@Zacharee1 I think I know what I did wrong...

Shutter speed was to fast...

Zanna

@jokerdino I heard the same :)

TheXed

@Zacharee1 should have been in shutter priority mode...

shutter speed at about 1/1000

or so...

Ask Ubuntu Meta

4:46 PM

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Q: Are edits like this OK?

We all reject edits that change the meaning of posts but I came across this one and it adds meaning to the post that was never given by the OP. Here is the original post and here is the edited version As you can see, nowhere did the OP mention katoolin or kali or anything to indica...

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Q: Bullying as a strategy to force close a question

This question - How to install bully and mdk3 on ubuntu 16.04 - has received at the time this was posted four downvotes as well as three close votes for being unclear, however there is nothing unclear about the question. I saw the train coming after the first close vote and posted a comment to fu...

discussion downvoting

Zacharee1

@ByteCommander lol

@TheXed would that generate noise?

TheXed

@Zacharee1 I think not letting the camera select the aperture freely did...

Zacharee1

hmm

TheXed

I don't know....I will have to try go out again if I get a chance...

it is raining today :-(

Zacharee1

@AskUbuntuMeta that is a huge overreaction

Byte Commander

5:08 PM

@TheXed first snow here at my place

Hizqeel

5:34 PM

Hi everyone :)

cl-netbox

@Hizqeel Hi Hizqeel ! :) Good evening ! :)

@Hizqeel How are you doing ? Everything fine ?

Hizqeel

@cl-netbox Good Evening :) I am Good All is well ... What about you?

cl-netbox

@Hizqeel Good to hear ! :) ... same here - Thank you ! :)

Hizqeel

:D

Zacharee1

6:17 PM

@Serg something for you askubuntu.com/questions/867166/…

Nathan Osman

Stupid Huffington Post.

Zacharee1

?

Seth

Let me fix that: Stupid media.

Zacharee1

isn't SE a medium?

Nathan Osman

Trump isn't even president yet and they're trying to impeach him.

I mean, I don't like the guy either but give the fellow a chance.

Zacharee1

6:21 PM

@NathanOsman why? He'll probably do that himself :p

Seth

@NathanOsman You can't impeach someone that hasn't committed a crime.

Nathan Osman

Not that I expected intelligence from HuffPo anyway...

RobotHumans

@NathanOsman - do you have any thoughts on the recent pyside incorporation in to qt main?

Nathan Osman

Wait what?

I didn't hear about this...

RobotHumans

I read somewhere that pyside was being adopted by nokia/trolltech as opposed to pyqt

Seth

6:24 PM

Well PyQt development was super slow.

Nathan Osman

Interesting.

Seth

Also, hi @RobotHumans! Long time no see :)

RobotHumans

@Seth I've been busy/angry. Elite had me ripping enough that I'm at a point where I want to do something else instead of play the game.

Seth

@RobotHumans ah, yep. I know the feeling.

RobotHumans

also, scooter shop screwed up my ride, so i'm having a desire to start a shop here so people don't have to go to the alternative... this part is just noise

@Seth really? I didn't know you played.

Nathan Osman

6:29 PM

Hey. Where'd the equalizer in Google Play Music go???

It's completely gone.

Seth

@RobotHumans not elite, but other games.

RobotHumans

@Seth eh, my ragey moment is related to the difficulty ramps that are built in to the game. so it's a built to crush you game. no points for skill just a time sink. saw some interesting things on G+ about a linux alternative recently. might enjoy that later. for now, i'm working on other things. i can only get so aggressive before playing a game becomes punishmnet instead of leisure time.

Nathan Osman

I'm starting to become very suspicious of updates now...

RobotHumans

@NathanOsman i see the EQ comment. did they really strip out a feature that critical? if so why?

Ask Ubuntu Meta

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Q: EasyPeasy is 'Formerly known as Ubuntu Eee, a project optimized for netbooks.' - Google

Is this really not the right place to ask questions about this Ubuntu distro? The UI says Ubuntu in the upper right corner. I just need some help getting YouTube to play, probably just an issue with the flash plugin which is being handled by VNC.

discussion

Nathan Osman

6:33 PM

@RobotHumans I know right?

Seth

@NathanOsman must have hired a GNOME dev.

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Nathan Osman

Lol.

RobotHumans

@Seth that made me smile a little

Hizqeel

During Exams ... :D

RobotHumans

exams are easy

Hizqeel

6:42 PM

very easy...

RobotHumans

sup pepe. long time no see.

Zacharee1

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Jacob Vlijm

6:57 PM

brilliant ^

RobotHumans

not going to call it brilliant, but pretty good.

Zacharee1

found the source willmcphail.com/projects

Zanna

@Zacharee1 oh god...

Zacharee1

lol

RobotHumans

Eh. Napping or toying with things your choice.

edwinksl

7:07 PM

@Zanna oooooooooops

@Zacharee1 wat

Zacharee1

me mod

Will McPhail

@WillMcPhail

@NewYorker cartoonist.

2.1k tweets, 2.3k followers, following 194 users

Zanna

@edwinksl I think that other commenter is leading them down a path of much trouble haha

Zacharee1

ZenFone AR

edwinksl

@Zacharee1 u mod? hue

Zacharee1

ikr

I can't really tell if Android modding is dying or not. Bigger brands are getting really locked down, but then there are new brands that are making good phones that are unlockable

edwinksl

7:12 PM

@Zanna we have a dupe target for this right?

Zanna

7:36 PM

@edwinksl idk... only the obvious ones shrug

TheXed

m.2 looks pretty amazing...

Fabby

@Zanna Do you dislike the canned system comment or my Yoda comment?

@terdon seems to dislike the Yoda comment.

Zanna

it's the yoda comment that I hate

Is this still unclear? I transcribed the useless video askubuntu.com/review/close/660466

edwinksl

7:51 PM

"I have already used PlayOnLinux and Wine to get Steam up"

why do people do crap like this

oh right, to play windows-only steam games

TheXed

Because they don't know, that if your goal is to play Windows only games on their crappy computers...their best option is to just use Windows...

edwinksl

yeah i agree

i would rather dual boot than deal with wine

Fabby

@Zanna voted to leave open

TheXed

@edwinksl but hey, you and I are one of the few smart ones...

Edity

i'm top 61%* overall

Fabby

7:54 PM

@Zanna "hate" is a pretty strong word which I never use, except for cats.

Is it that bad? I thought it was funny and light-hearted, but still firm.

Serg

@Fabby Cats are mystical beings who transcend our mortal world. And occasionally poop in shoes

Fabby

@TheXed Most users have no clue.

Serg

I am more of a cat person definitely. Especially since I was bitten when i was very young by my grandfather's dog

TheXed

@Fabby agreed, that is why people like me can maintain their jobs...lets keep it that way...

Fabby

@Serg :D I like mystical, magical unicorns much better than cats

TheXed

7:57 PM

Do not educate the end users!

Edity

im happy this morning

:D :D :D :D :D :D

Fabby

@TheXed That's what I'm here for: to teach them to fish, not to fish for them...

@Edity new hat?

Edity

nope

TheXed

@Fabby you are taking jobs away from people that could use them :-P

Edity

i've moved from top 10% this year to top 61% overall

Serg

7:59 PM

@TheXed Oh, I doubt it. Most people are "reluctant" to learn how to properly use their computers

TheXed

You know. Actually that brings up a good point @Serg. People need to understand that they can learn to use their computer properly without out needing to know how their computer properly works (the technical crap)

Zanna

@Fabby ok I guess I overuse the word hate, but I agree with terdon about it, personally

Fabby

Understood...

I really worked hard to get a light-hearted comment a bit different from the generic canned comment on the site...

I was once before asked to stop using it, but then someone else started using it so I restarted as well.

edwinksl

@Zanna voted to leave open

Zanna

@edwinksl ah good... hope someone can answer it :)

should I answer or no repro since they don't know what caused it? askubuntu.com/questions/867125/…

Fabby

8:08 PM

@Zanna answer...

Jacob Vlijm

@Zanna I think it is no repro, we don' t know what the issue was

He @Fabby, together we have a balanced answer :)

@Zanna on the other hand, your suggestion fixed it...

Fabby

@JacobVlijm Huh?

What are you talking about?

Zanna

@JacobVlijm @Fabby thinking about it, I don't want to answer because my solution is just a band aid...

Jacob Vlijm

@Fabby Zanna answer... / Zanna I think it is no repro, we don' t know what the issue was

Zanna

no repro, please (if we don't close it that question will remain forever unanswered as it has an answer and 3 upvotes)

Fabby

8:23 PM

:D

Jacob Vlijm

@Zanna I think it can be both ways, there are more answers to fix what we don' t understand, but looking at the question... No repro I'd say.

Zanna

hopefully reviewers will agree

Jacob Vlijm

...voted NR

Zanna

mv .bashrc{,.bak} && cp /etc/skel/.bashrc .bashrc is my automatic comment answer to every unclear question saying "something weird happens in a terminal" :S

edwinksl

why is PYTHONPATH set in .bashrc tsk tsk

Zanna

8:27 PM

hahaha :)

Zacharee1

6

edwinksl

friends don't let friends use IE

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Serg

it baffles me when organizations don't disable Internet Explorer. It's like , "Sure, we'll assume antivirus can save us instead of actually using more secure software in the first place "

Nathan Osman

Ads are getting worse. Now Twitter is showing ads before videos.

edwinksl

8:45 PM

unblockable i presume?

Nathan Osman

I can't remember now.

I have it in my mind that there was a skip button... but I can't exactly remember.

edwinksl

i suppose they are under pressure to make money

or rather, intense pressure

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