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Q: Do high-level programming languages have more vulnerabilities or security risks than low-level languages?

12:12 AM

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Do high-level programming languages have more vulnerabilities or security risks than low-level programming languages and if so, why? Image source: http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/bam/live/content/znmb87h/large

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Q: Comply with data protection requirements without giving away too much?

I'm a contractor for a few companies. I build and host their systems on servers I rent from a popular international host. I store the system code on a popular, internationally hosted version control system. There are a mix of authentication techniques at various points, most of them near-best pra...

audit compliance

12:48 AM

anyone watching the opening ceremony?

@Seth Nope!

not interested in olympics :(

damn, it took me more time upgrading yesterday than installing the whole distro

@Seth is it live on youtube ?

3h and something -.-

1:00 AM

yeah, it usually how it is , takes forever

I'll think twice before formating my notebook now haha

askubuntu.com/a/70231/295286 Crap answer , basically

Aaron Hall

@Serg close it as a dupe of the linked question.

already on it

Aaron Hall

Any emacs or orgmode users here?

1:05 AM

imma go wash some dishes . . . bbl

Aaron Hall

bbl backatcha.

@Serg I wish

You have to use a VPN and then watch it from Canada :P

(if you don't have NBC)

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Q: Can't SSH into localhost

So I've been trying for the past two hours to SSH into my own computer via localhost. But it says "Permission Denied (public key)". I am running Ubuntu 14 LTS on VirtualBox. Here're my current settings: My /home/username directory has the ".ssh" folder with the files "known_hosts", "initialkey...

linux ubuntu ssh openssh

Not sure if this is a good idea what do you guys think. should I scrap it is it a dupe?

no comments. :(

1:20 AM

@HenryWHHackv2.0 reproposals are fine

@ƎpᴉʇʎXD No the idea.

now that is a problem

suggestion: twitch.SE?

@ƎpᴉʇʎXD Amm I like the name Ask Twitch better.

k

1:39 AM

I hate when I leave a room and accidentlly came back in the same room.

i ate a few hours ago. Why am i feeling hungry again ?

i feel weird today . . . low on energy

@Serg Do you exercise? It can do wonders for both mental and physical health.

@Serg Are you sure you don't have parasite Worms living in you and stealing your nutrients? :O

@Seth actually , i don't. I have gym subscription, but i haven't been there for months. Now that I'm trying to change around a few things, i plan on going there regularly. Especially do more swimming, as i love the pool amd steam room there

1:54 AM

My turtle is faster than WordPress.

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@HenryWHHackv2.0 that's a possibility, but low one

Announcing more @PayPal winners on my story!! So many funny snaps 😂 #paypalit #spon https://t.co/2GlK929vag

Tweeted by Shonduras on August 6, 2016 at 1:16 AM

@Serg do it :D

the update to talking tom is weird.....i cannot close bathroom door when he's on the toilet but once i stop, he shut it himself

O.o What the F....eline....

and . . . .i can change the toilet seat into basketball hoop . . . .wow, this app got weird

2:09 AM

@Serg Ok just be careful we love you and care about you Serg! LOL :)

This tablet is so great

I'll be alright. I'm slowly figuring out my life , that's all.

wat

@Zacharee1 so why exactly that tablet is so great ?

it's so fast

and light

2:15 AM

It cooks bacon for him.

if only

this thing actually runs pretty cool

So there's this:

O_O

That reminds me of this:

lol

its an ipad

who cares

2:16 AM

There's an app for everything.

are people really stupid enough to cut stuff on an ipad ? cutting veggies on hundreds of dollars worth of electronics ?

don't answer that . . . .i wanna keep my faith in humanity

@Serg Ye— oh, don't answer. Okay.

If there are people stupid enough to vote for Donald Trump, then I don't think cutting tomatoes on an iPad is too much of a stretch.

@Serg not worth hundreds of dollars, bought for hundreds :p

@Serg Answer: Fruit Ninja in real life/super 3D.

le facepalm

I'd rather climb mount Everest in VR

if i had VR of course

2:24 AM

this tablet battery is too good

for now at least

@Serg Get Google Cardboard. It's like $20 or so.

@Zacharee1 how do you like your new tablet

take a guess

8/8

10/10

(Mine was better >:D)

2:30 AM

1 > 1 confirmed

:)

Math has changed since I grew up.

:D

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is there a SE chat app for android?

Nope. But they have improved the mobile page a bit.

2:33 AM

i prefer the mobile page over the app

@NathanOsman math has changed, people nowadays just use Wolfram Alpha . . . .

I'll take a look at it, have only used app so far

@NathanOsman wolframalpha.com/input/?i=10%2F10+%3E+8%2F8

@IanC there used to be . . . .i had one . . . . or was it just stackoverflow app ?

Soooo . . . .turns out my gf loves "Thousand Island" dressing . . . I've been adding it to pretty much everything for the last few days

what is thousand island?

2:35 AM

@Serg literally aiwujiwu

C codes starting to get more complex on the tutorial pages, now we are talking :D

@IanC a salad dressing.

Great scott. My laptop is belching out heat through it's fans like its sitting in the very belly of a Balrog.

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ooooh, I was thinking about dress, didn't know dressing was like some "sauce" lol

No idea why

2:37 AM

@RPiAwesomeness I love your expressive way of saying "my laptop is overheating"

@Serg I try my best to provide humor to the most boring of situations

sometimes I'm typing or doing something and my screen seems to flash a tiny millisecond, should I be worried or start looking up the GFX drivers?

I mean, it's almost unnoticeable

@RPiAwesomeness your cooling paste probably dried out and you need to pop it open and add some of that paste to CPU and maybe GPU as well. Had to do that on my old Toshiba laptop. Since I've done that - no overheating.

@Serg Interesting. I mean, I just got it recently (past 3 months or so) from a refurbish place.

I'll let it sit overnight and see if it chills out a bit. If not, thermal paste it is

@RPiAwesomeness did you see where I scorched a cable in my laptop the other day?

2:40 AM

@NathanOsman Indeed I did >.<

Something must have shorted.

Also, the plastic that was supporting the monitor hinge on the right broke.

:(

I mean, it still works but I'm worried if I pull too hard that something more serious will break.

@RPiAwesomeness also check processes - maybe something is eating up your CPU and RAM

@Serg I did do that. htop shows nothing out of the ordinary

@Serg but even at peak CPU usage, it shouldn't get that hot.

MUUUUUUST concentrate.

My rule of thumb is as long as it doesn't go over 80 degrees Celsius , it's alright. If it's over that constantly , then it's some bad juju

2:46 AM

Hrm...that HP thing is pretty high for a single process

Fans just turned down a tad, but still loud

I can't seem to pkill it

@RPiAwesomeness is that a printer driver ?

I think so

Took going as root to kill the thing

Also , holly-shiz - you have octa-core CPU

And just because we're sharing htop screenshots . .. here

@Serg Yeah, it's a 2nd gen i7

2:53 AM

You poor dual-core pleb

xD

I can say that because I lived on a dual core for all of my time using computers up until the last 1-1 1/2 yrs

Alas, I haven't found a decent quad-core replacement for my laptop

I know the pain

ThinkPads bro. ThinkPads.

I love my W520. Got a great deal on it, and other than the meh battery life, which I kinda expected since it's several years old at this point, it's been near perfect.

And the keyboard.

perhaps one day I'll give ThinkPads a go :)

My old Toshiba Satellite L455D had nice keyboard, but this new one C55 has keyboard that is just . . . flat . . . it's not exactly the most comfy

Just so long as you actually get the right kind of ThinkPad keyboard. They're about as close to mechanical keys as you can get on a laptop.

The feedback from them is just soooo nice after coming from whatever my Satellite A105 had.

Going back to that it just feels mushy

I now want to get a mechanical blue keyboard for my desktop even more

but the noise that it makes though

3:00 AM

When my laptop is used with external VGA monitor on the desk , I use this emachines keyboard I found at Goodwill for like 5$ . . . feels quite comfy . . . not sure if it's mechanical or what

@edwinksl That's part of the fun xD

I only use my desktop during the day anyways. Any night stuff I do I'm on my laptop

imagine using it at work :D

but it does send my force from hitting keys back to the table so , it sounds like the table constantly is vibrating . . . .

Most of my stuff has been on my laptop recently actually because the screen is better than my desktop's and so is the keyboard xD

But, granted, I'm using a free LCD and keyboard. Both of which are probably from the 90s.

Maybe not the monitor, that's somewhat newer. Maybe 2004-5.

Chromium, you silly ~~censored~~ , why you work with my display script now ?

you weren't working two hours ago ?

3:08 AM

chromium?

cloudready ?

THE OLYMPICS HAS STARTED! WHICH TEAM DO YOU SUPPORT!

<.>

Wait. Nope.

The OP discovered the root folder and is scared about it. LOL! :D

THAT'S the country I support.

3:11 AM

I would support some team, IF I COULD WATCH BROADCAST SOMEWHERE

lol

im watching it through DUKE

@Serg use a Canadian proxy/VPN and watch from the Canadian Broadcast Corporation's website ;)

(cbc.ca)

man, when I feel bad that I don't know as much as I want about linux, I'll easy my mind thinking I could be scared my hostname is 'localhost' or scared with my 'root' folder not being accessable

@IanC I had a friend tell me yesterday he set up a minecraft server, but he couldn't get it working. "It says my IP is 127.0.0.1 but when I try to connect from another computer it doesn't work"

3:14 AM

I'll try proxy as the last resort, but maybe there has to be something non-proxy-able

@Seth LOL

@Serg not for free..

and i don't brain well, because i have no idea how to say things anymore

unless NBC broadcasts in your area and you have a TV antenna.

@IanC it was an interesting conversation xD

by the way, can I ask maybe a stupid question?

3:15 AM

sure

on the file '/etc/hosts' the loopback ip for "localhost" is different from the ip for "HOSTNAME", even though both point to the loopback interface (127.0.1.1 and 127.0.0.1)

is there a reason for that?

I would assume it is because two hosts cannot have the same IP address, but I am not 100% certain.

makes sense

and how does this loopback ip influences sudo? I mean, heard you can break sudo if you change your hostname on /etc/hostname without changing it on /etc/hosts. Does sudo uses the loopback interface? I got kind of curious as why he would need equal names on both :p

mysteries of the kernel functionalities

wow, just figure out how to bold text here :o

I forgot the reason for that one :p

Am I allowed to go on a nice long rant about how I absolutely loathe WordPress?

3:28 AM

sure, you're the boss here :)

(call me stupid, but until recently I thought wordpress was just for blogs)

IOC prohibits media from using YouTube.

in JavaScript on Stack Overflow Chat, 31 secs ago, by Nathan Osman

And animated GIFs for that matter.

one of my weakness (that I'll still work on) is websites programming, apache, mysql, php, .asp, etc

I would highly recommend giving Python a shot instead of PHP.

someone wasted his time to invent a rule to prohibit olympics gifs? (and probably got paid for bringing it up!)

@NathanOsman, thought php was more spreaded on websites applications, but learning python would be good for other things besides websites :)

PHP does not scale well and it encourages a lot of bad practices.

Most modern web applications are written in Python or Ruby.

3:38 AM

I wanted to start learning Ruby this summer

instead, I'm actually capitilizing on python lately

I need to finish my TCP/IP suite book first, along with that C tutorial, before diving into anything else

but web programming is on my "to-do" list

@IanC what's that book about TCP/IP ?

@Serg it's called "TCP/IP Illustrated Volume 1 - The Protocols. by W. Richard Stevens"

I think it's not the most up to date, but I think it's a good idea to get a solid knowledge on older protocols before jumping to IPv6 for example

@NathanOsman Now imagine what the world will be like post TPP.

oh yes, i know that one

3:47 AM

@Seth ugh.

WORDPRESS. ASDHGJDGNLENGALKNGEA

Seriously.

adds wordpress to list of dev "swearwords"

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I'm liking it! Getting a solid idea about networking, still digesting some concepts though

@NathanOsman here is a kitten for you

:D

i guess i'll invest into that book from my next paycheck . . . IF I'm gonna have next paycheck that is

3:49 AM

@Seth @NathanOsman A friend of mine thought this would make a good George video. Somehow..

I just don't understand why this menu disappears when I switch from the parent theme to the child theme.

networks with multiple subnet masks still confuses me a bit for example, routing can get complicated in more complex set ups, but I'm getting a much better idea than I had before @Serg

@IanC I see what you did there :P

xD

in other random web news:

I googled 'corgi shorts' instead of 'cargo shorts' and it turned out fantastically https://t.co/auMrWycVw9

Tweeted by DannyPage on August 5, 2016 at 7:29 PM

i don't even

@Seth, what did I do here? :O

3:51 AM

@IanC "... multiple subnet masks still confuses me a bit..."

LOL

I didn't even notice it hahaha

Googled "corgi shorts" . . . .found picture of dogs wearing shorts and an asian girl in in shorts with corgi . . . #approved

I'm just going to leave this here again, because it's awesome, and then go to bed.

Must get some sleep. I'll be up at 0400 and I won't get back home until 0130. Fun times.

classic

git sleep now !

doing

4:02 AM

man, I saw that video today

OK, my wireless mouse is acting weird, it falls asleep too fast

I probably shouldn't have smacked it against the table when i was mad a few days ago . . .

maybe not the best idea haha

I'm mad enough to smack something right now.

Send it over here.

@NathanOsman add a punching bag to your Amazon wishlist and I'll ship it

Q: Cannot connect to 5GHz network

4:17 AM

I can't wait to read this source code months from now. There are likely to be some funny comments in the source code.

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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I am having trouble connecting to a 5 GHz wireless network. I am using a TP-Link TL-WDN4800 network adapter and the output of iwlist wlan1 freq shows that there are several channels in the 5GHz range. I'm able to see the 5GHz network in the list of available networks but an unable to connect to i...

ubuntu wifi network-interface

i am sort of convinced that my gf and her friends are secretly communicating

whenever i don't talk to my gf for couple days, and then message one of her friends to chat for a bit, she appears

maybe coincidence, but it happened several times

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, link following arrow in body, pattern-matching website in body: engineering and simplicity by joelfritsche on askubuntu.com …

well, it wouldn't surprise me much a friend of hers would say he/she is talking to you

I mean, idk, she could be kind of thinking you were avoiding her or something

4:36 AM

i hope to think she wouldn't think that. i rarely avoid people

my curiousity is fried

I'dn't get so worried then

if I'dn't is even a word

she lives in china?

CodeX

hmm conspiracy

damn, almost 2am

going to get some rest, good night!!

4:52 AM

night ian\

Goodnight.

Hey! I fixed it!

WordPress is stupid but hooray anyway!

\ o/ wooo, good job Nathan

5:07 AM

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A: Why does find print a leading './' if no paths are given?

5:19 AM

Very nice answer

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The reason why you see this is because the developer of GNU find chose to provide a "reasonable" behavior for find when no path is given. In contrast, POSIX doesn't state that the parameter is optional: The find utility shall recursively descend the directory hierarchy from each file specifi...

Also, it references a change log from 1990

I was born that year

5:31 AM

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6:07 AM

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today i basically deleted my local copy of a repo and re-cloned it because i was too lazy to change its remote url

@edwinksl why not just git pull to get the stuff from there ?

the repo changed its name, so the remote url changed too

git pull is not the solution

ah, i see

so how does one change a remote url... let's see

i see

too lazy xD

6:14 AM

$ git remote -v
origin	github.com/SergKolo/lks-indicator.git (fetch)
origin	github.com/SergKolo/lks-indicator.git (push)

git remote set-url [--push] <name> <newurl> [<oldurl>]

yup set-url

I really should invest some time into learning all these fancy git commands . . . .might come handy

but set-url happens so rarely xD

pretty sure i knew it when i first learned it but i never used it after

90% of the time I only use and reuse thse: clone , add, commit , pull . Briefly played with different branches ,too . . . .mmm, git checkout that was

no git status? lol

i would say git status, git add -p and git commit like 90% of the time

6:24 AM

nope, never use git status, probably because mostly i work alone and not many people open pull requests for me

my dog just lay down on my headphones . . . .how am i supposed to get em out without disturbing this cuddling cuteness ?

have you seen jacob's meta post yet?

i am pretty sure no one can change his opinion

i plan to give up

about what ? reputation thingy ?

downvote thingy

aha, found it. reading

at this point, he has called a lot of us idiots

which i don't think is nice

i am done arguing though

6:37 AM

To be perfectly honest , I agree with Jacob - downvoting questions from new users ( with less than 50 reputation ) is unwelcoming and pointless. It's like , you call customer service and they're like: "GTFO n00b, you could have googled this, and don't come calling us without properly spelling stuff on the phone"

Close the question, comment, move on

that is your prerogative of course

downvoters are justified in downvoting too if the question meets the criteria for being downvoted

CodeX

yup there should be a more gentle way in my opinion ..down votes obviously wont make the person asking question feel better .. the same reason why facebook doesn't have a dislike button

Certainly justified, if they meet the criteria. I have nothing against downvoting as a vehicle of communication that the post is not top-quality

But they're poor vehicle of communication

I agree with him too, I think I'm the only person who upvoted the post...

Hence should be used with comments

6:42 AM

I downvote bad questions

downvote comes with a popup that says you should consider adding a comment for users with < 2k rep i think

but note that adding a comment is optional, although it is nice to do so

But sometimes I think people forget how it feels to be really clueless and embarrassed...

That said , there's also double standard on the site. Some questions that can be easily googled and totally not related to the site , and should have been closed and downvoted. Yet because they "seem to fit" the requirements, they're still here.

i am clueless on a daily basis

Yeah, I think people upvote super simple questions they know how to answer

6:45 AM

Mostly , yes

me too, I'm monumentally clueless all the time

^5 :)

Personally , I upvote questions that make me go "Ugh , this would be really useful, but i don't know how to do it myself. Maybe people who know will notice this once it's voted more"

yeah me too

same here

i upvote a lot

you can check the stats ;)

Q: Where are the MATE Panel settings located?

6:47 AM

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I was playing around with the MATE Tweak tool and suddenly a stupid option removed all my panel applets and replaced with a default layout - that thing doesn't even confirm the destructive action first! However, I do have a backup of my home folder in the old PC... What should I copy over to get...

panel mate mint

but downvotes have their place

people probably take upvotes and downvotes way too personally

I totally take downvotes personally, which is why I agree with the post I think... I know they are totally impersonal, but knowing that does not help me

Q: New PC with no OS, how to create dual boot partitions for different installs of linux

there will always be trolls who downvote for no good reason

you probably have to just filter those out in your mind

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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I have an empty Dell Latitude 2100 laptop (with no CD drive) what I want to partition the 160GB drive to Ubuntu Desktop on a 100GB partition, and Ubuntu Server on a 50GB partition. Why? My Mac is dying and I urgently need a "desktop" environment to keep coding on a project until I can afford a ...

ubuntu system-installation dual-boot

yeah... I actually think the people bothering to read meta are not the people casting gratuitous downvotes on new users' muddled questions

but shrug fortunately, voting is anonymous :)

6:55 AM

@Zanna you should probably write something in support of jacob so he doesn't feel that alone :D

@edwinksl People take everything personally when they're not familiar with the way things work. Consider anybody's first day on a job. Managers and bosses being mad at one for not knowing anything is common. And naturally people will take it as "Holly, shiz, this place is horrible and everybody is so mean". Yes, downvotes have their place, and yes - they shouldn't be taken personally. But I see where Jacob's position.

I don't think I have anything coherent to write... maybe I'll throw in a comment

I'll think about it today while I'm making quesdillas and gumbo and raspberry cheesecake, and if I can write an answer I will... but I like Stefano's answer and agree with him too

did I miss any peachy questions/answers while I was asleep?

better go get started on this massive catering job : /

Anwar Shah

8:20 AM

@ByteCommander I thought it would be duplicating answers when it is not required.

9:22 AM

ubunntu

@ƎpᴉʇʎXD That's me :)

you are the bunny

♦ Easter Chaos

XKCD's and rm -rf / are here. Although this chatroom feels a b...

people think they can run commands :P

Also @Serg, your answer on Meta contains some spelling/grammatical errors but I can't edit it.

EDIT IS PENDING

O god

I can't see that on my phone :( @ƎpᴉʇʎXD

9:32 AM

:(

@grooveplex \/

i know what your'e gonna say, "EWW WINDOWS"

I prefer windows, but kinda Linux too.

@ƎpᴉʇʎXD No I'm not

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I prefer to use Ubuntu but I sometimes use Windows, too

@SmokeDetector shed weight

Problem solved.

THE FRUIT GAMES!!

user136984

Any Tox users around? What's happening with the core repositories? I can't access them...

9:41 AM

TOX IS BEING HACKED.....jk

@ParanoidPanda you mean the tox chat or something else?

heh, doodle games is fun

user136984

Yes, that, I can't access their repo.

private?

error code?

user136984

Err:9 pkg.tox.chat/debian nightly InRelease
  Failed to connect to pkg.tox.chat port 443: Connection refused

iternet?

user136984

No, all other connects are fine... Look, I'm talking to you! :D

user136984

9:45 AM

Do you think I should contact them?

Sure.

I'm playing the doodle games.

user136984

What's that?

Google Doodle.

Playable on mobiles.

[g.co/fruit] @ParanoidPanda

user136984

Ok, well, I'm not interested in games anyway, got better things to do. :)

user136984

And my mobile probably wouldn't play that. :P

9:52 AM

?

user136984

I think it's probably too basic for that, though it does have internet, but that's rather expensive with my contract...

O_o

user136984

Well, I don't need a phone that can connect to the internet, that's not its purpose (that's why I have my computer). I just need it to be able to send and receive texts and calls on a cheap rate. Though this rate has a very expensive internet! :D

@ƎpᴉʇʎXD really weird. Seems their 80/443 ports don't connect anymore but I can ping it just fine!

:D

RIP 15.10

9:57 AM

I have no idea what's going on