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Edity

12:00 AM

I cant feel my fingers when I'm translating

but I hate it

it hurts like hell

woah

Zacharee1

back to translating

edwinksl

AU minions best minions :P

Zacharee1

@NathanOsman so when it says "Transfer with %1 failed/succeeded" does that mean to, from or both

Nathan Osman

Where is that?

Let me try to find it...

Zacharee1

It's part of Application

Nathan Osman

12:08 AM

@Zacharee1 Okay, so that message is shown with "%1" replaced with the name of the other device. It is used for both transfers to and from.

Zacharee1

OK

I'll use con and hope that preposition translates :p

srsly

> Some versions of Gnome do not support AppIndicators. This prevents NitroShare from displaying an indicator in the notification area. Please ensure you have this extension installed before continuing:<br><br><a href='%1'>%1</a>'

Nathan Osman

You can leave that one if you want :P

Zacharee1

I'll try

Edity

@NathanOsman IM DONE IM DONE

Nathan Osman

\o/

Zacharee1

12:16 AM

I did that translation. That was fun

Nathan Osman

I imagine :)

Zacharee1

This is gonna be hard

:p

Edity

@NathanOsman what do i do now

Zacharee1

There's an ellipsis text?

Edity

@NathanOsman What do i do now?!?

Nathan Osman

12:20 AM

Did you save it?

Edity

yes

en.ts

Nathan Osman

Whatever file you saved, email it to me.

Zacharee1

you want to save it as kr.ts

Edity

ok

Zacharee1

or whatever Korean is

Nathan Osman

12:20 AM

Isn't it "ko.ts"?

Zacharee1

dunno

Edity

it is kr.ts

@NathanOsman email?

Zacharee1

It's KO

Nathan Osman

List of ISO 639-1 codes

ISO 639 is a standardized nomenclature used to classify languages. Each language is assigned a two-letter (639-1) and three-letter (639-2 and 639-3), lowercase abbreviation, amended in later versions of the nomenclature. The system is highly useful for linguists and ethnographers to categorize the languages spoken on a regional basis, and to compute analysis in the field of lexicostatistics. ISO 639 has five code lists. == Partial ISO 639 table == This table lists all of: ISO 639-1: two-letter codes, one per language or ISO 639 macrolanguage And some of: ISO 639-2/T: three-letter codes, for the...

It says "ko" in there.

@Edity Sure. [email protected]

But it doesn't matter. I'll rename it accordingly.

Don't worry about it.

Edity

scent!

sent pun ^

@NathanOsman happy editing

Nathan Osman

12:27 AM

Thanks!

I really appreciate the effort.

Edity

:D

Nathan Osman

Do you have an email address or website you'd like your name to link to?

Edity

nope

Nathan Osman

Okay, I'll get this published ASAP.

Edity

just link my AskUbuntu user

Nathan Osman

12:29 AM

Your profile on Ask Ubuntu?

Sure.

Edity

I want the new version

I'm so desprate :D

welp time to reboot

Thomas W.

yawns loudly

Nathan Osman

@Edity Yup, I'm just getting it in.

Edity

ok

Thomas W.

why is my loud yawning worthy of the star wall...

Edity

12:40 AM

@ThomasW. looks like you need to have a cup of ubuntu mate

Thomas W.

COFFEE

MUST HAVE

HAD NONE

GIVE

Serg

What would be worthy of a star is a method for reading dbus props via python

Edity

:O

Thomas W.

oh wait there's some coffee...

Edity

Thomas W.

12:41 AM

@Serg I thought you had written something for that

@Edity Want. Don't have money. Just spent money on Amazon Prime Day

Edity

O_o

Remember the 1cent amazon glitch?

Serg

@ThomasW. that's for methods . . . I am trying to write a script for sogou input method, which uses something known as fcitx and that sucker doesn't have gsettings , only dbus interface. I found the list of currently active items , but it's a pain in she lower portion of the body to process it in bash, ergo I need to do it in python.

So i have something that calls dbus methods. . . . but now i need something that reads properties

edwinksl

that went over my head, but i can safely conclude you need some beer before proceeding

Thomas W.

ah

IanC

good night folks

Edity

12:47 AM

@IanC Sweet dreams.

IanC

I meant good evening lol

I forget good night is like a farewell and good evening is a greeting

they are the same phrase in my language

Edity

:P

edwinksl

greetings and salutations ianc

IanC

so how are you guys doing today?

edwinksl

the usual, making sure year of linux desktop comes sooner than later

Edity

12:51 AM

well

IanC

@Nathan Osman, I've been suggested review on my question, how can I accept the review that was made? Do I have to edit it or can I click somewhere to just accept what was suggested?

Nathan Osman

I don't think you have enough rep. to accept an edit suggestion.

IanC

oh, I thought the author of the question had to accept it

so other people will accept it and it will be reviewed by itself?

Edity

@NathanOsman update out yet? ;]

Nathan Osman

Not yet. I'm still trying to figure out how Qt looks up locale information.

Edity

12:55 AM

doc.qt.io/qt-4.8/qlocale.html

Serg

Got it !

IanC

guys, is there any cons in creating a backup partition before a fresh distro install, and after installing (and recovering files to the actual distro partition) merging both partitions?

Nathan Osman

Aha. Found it.

Edity

;D

Serg

@IanC none

IanC

1:06 AM

@Serg, Thanks! I still don't know much about partitioning (got to read more about it), thought it could lead to a fragmentated disk or something

Serg

@NathanOsman docker question askubuntu.com/q/797934/295286

IanC

@Serg, I'm thinking about getting 2 distros on dual boot running here, and getting a fresh ubuntu install (I'm still with the one that came with the notebook)

Serg

@IanC two distros will probably conflicting grub . I would suggest you stick with onliy one distro, and use another in VM

Partitioning doesn't give fragmentation. Fragmentation AFAIK is windows NTFS thingy

TheXed

Everyone get their prime day shopping in?

Serg

i haven't even started yet

IanC

1:16 AM

@Serg, didn't know that could happen. I only tried dual boot once several years ago when I still used the "OS who must not be named"

Serg

I had this issue with Linux Mint and Fedora dual boot. Whichever was installed last controlled the grub, but i spend more time in other one.

edwinksl

@NathanOsman github.com/rreusser/the-old-github-font

IanC

@Serg, maybe I'll just try using virtual machines them. When you use it, where does it mount the "/" tree?

then*

Edity

I am waiting for updates from @NathanOsman

edwinksl

@Edity you are korean?

Serg

1:21 AM

@IanC you mean where virtual box mounts / of the virtual machine ?

Edity

yep

TheXed

I am picking up a 64gb micro SD card for 15 bucks...

Thomas W.

those Amazon Prime day discounts are amazing aren't they

TheXed

@ThomasW. Considering a Kindle Fire for 33ish...

edwinksl

@Edity annyeonghaseyo

Thomas W.

1:22 AM

I want to, but I need a pure Android tablet

can't have any proprietary crud

Edity

@edwinksl hello?

TheXed

@ThomasW. I don't mind the kindle fire...but I only use it for reading and watching netflix in bed...

Serg

@IanC the way virtualbox works, is that you create virtual hard drive for your OS , can be any size. In reality that's like a file in your home folder

TheXed

I have other devices that I use on a more regular basis to actually get stuff done...

Serg

$ ls /home/xieerqi/VirtualBox\ VMs/CentOS/
CentOS.vbox  CentOS.vbox-prev  CentOS.vhd  Logs/

That file basically is isolated from your host (real ) machine

Thomas W.

1:24 AM

heheh

TheXed

But honestly 33 dollars for a decent tablet...by a known company can hardly beat it...

Serg

If you want share files between them, you can add shared folder in the settings , but you will need to install VirtualBox guest additions , as well as add your self to a sf_vbox group ( i think that's the name, not sure) so that you can use that folder without root permissions

IanC

@Serg, cool, so if you use another distro on this VM, it will mount the distro's "/" tree on that file? Any alterations you do on configurations of that distro, new packages you install or source you compile, they will all stay inside this file?

Nathan Osman

@Edity I'm just making some formatting corrections

Serg

@IanC yes, exactly right. Changes made on that OS stay inside the file

OK , bbl , shower time

Edity

1:26 AM

okay

IanC

@Serg, thanks man! see you later

TheXed

Oh that is even a better deal 3- for 90

Nathan Osman

@Edity you've got the same string for "transfer has failed" and "transfer has succeeded"

Edity

oh

soz

Nathan Osman

"%1 전송 실패" in both cases.

Edity

1:29 AM

ok

v

전송 성공 (replace) @NathanOsman

Thomas W.

korean?

Nathan Osman

Okay, thanks.

Edity

yes @ThomasW.

Thomas W.

that's what I thought

Edity

:P

Edity

1:49 AM

@NathanOsman update released yet?

Nathan Osman

Still working on it.

Edity

D:

Nathan Osman

You put a space between all the "%" and "1" so I have to remove the spaces.

Edity

Oh

sorry

Serg

Shaven and clean Serg is back

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

1:57 AM

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Q: Black screen when updating to ubuntu 16.04?

After I type in sudo start unity into my Chromebook, it runs the code and then there is a black screen, and nothing happens. It stays there until I shutdown my Chromebook Acer Chromebook 15 2 GB Ram 64 Bit

ubuntu

Edity

:D

Nathan Osman

@Edity it's pushed.

Edity

:D

Yay!

Nathan Osman

github.com/nitroshare/nitroshare-desktop/commit/…

Serg

Keep on pushing that git, push it guuuuuud

Edity

2:07 AM

so do I have to install nitroshare again?

Nathan Osman

On Windows?

Edity

yes

Nathan Osman

32 or 64-bit?

Edity

64

Nathan Osman

Grab it from here: ci.nitroshare.net/job/nitroshare-win64-msvc2013/…

Edity

2:09 AM

thx

@NathanOsman Nitroshare idea: licence the app as now WIndows blocked it

Nathan Osman

Huh?

Edity

Smartscreen

it said as "virus"

Nathan Osman

Did it really say virus?

Or did it just warn that the app was untrusted.

Edity

warned

Nathan Osman

Yeah, Windows does that.

There's no way around that other than me buying a code-signing certificate.

And even then, I'm not 100% sure if it disappears.

Edity

2:14 AM

oh

Thomas W.

it probably won't disappear

it'll probably prompt "Do oyu want to install this third party app?" like the Win7-Win10 UAC screens show

Nathan Osman

What about an EV cert?

Edity

ooh

Thomas W.

@NathanOsman site cert vs. code signing cert

not the same

not in Microsoft's mind anyways

Edity

@NathanOsman optional- get me to translate installation text

Nathan Osman

2:19 AM

@ThomasW. I know they aren't the same.

But there are two tiers of code signing certificates as well.

Edity

WERE FAMOUS!

Nathan Osman

@ThomasW. here's an example: digicert.com/code-signing

They show a table with the differences.

The key difference being: "Instant Reputation with Microsoft Smartscreen Filter"

Thomas W.

yeah you'd need the EV code-signing

which requires you to prove an organization exists driving it I think

and hardware-token 2FA

Nathan Osman

What a pain.

I'm not even a company. I'm just a person.

All of that being said... I rarely get complaints about the installers being unsigned.

Edity

that's a problem

Zacharee1

2:24 AM

so much translation

Edity

wish there were edity inc

@Zacharee1 your'e doing great!

Nathan Osman

Obviously I had to sign the OS X bundles. The OS won't even let you install unsigned applications unless you disable GateKeeper.

Thomas W.

NitroShare, LLC. :P

Non-profit that drives the NitroShare project.

Nathan Osman

More like LLC.

Edity

stick with the mit licence

Thomas W.

2:25 AM

we're not talking about licensing, lol

Edity

lol

Nathan Osman

@Zacharee1 send a ping when you're done please.

I'll be around but this tab won't have focus.

Zacharee1

I'll see if I can finish

Nathan Osman

Let me know when you know.

edwinksl

@Edity congrats github.com/nitroshare/nitroshare-desktop/commit/…

Edity

2:34 AM

thx

Translated by:
Edity (Korean)

edwinksl

pretty fresh rant from our dear linus lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1607.1/00627.html

Edity

raNITROSHAREnt

Serg

If the networking people cannot handle the pure awesomeness that is a
balanced and symmetric traditional multi-line C style comments, then
instead of the disgusting unbalanced crap that you guys use now,
please just go all the way to the C++ mode.

3

Lovely

Thomas W.

lol?

Edity

@edwinksl he probably is butthurt from the NETWORK OVERLOAD

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

2:37 AM

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Q: configuring pppoe in Ubuntu 14.04

I have taken a broadband connection from G Broadband. I haven't opted for a router as I wanted the connection just for my laptop. So I am now connecting via lan cable. The G Broadband guy could not configure my Ubuntu machine to pppoe he knew only to do in windows machines. I went through lot of ...

ubuntu networkmanager network-interface pppd

Serg

@edwinksl honestly , I also think that's BS. kernel and network modules have different commenting style, and what is the difference ? Extra line. Just. One. Line.

Zacharee1

28 translations to go

CodeX

/* I * see*/

Serg

The preferred style for long (multi-line) comments is:

	/*
	 * This is the preferred style for multi-line
	 * comments in the Linux kernel source code.
	 * Please use it consistently.
	 *
	 * Description:  A column of asterisks on the left side,
	 * with beginning and ending almost-blank lines.
	 */

For files in net/ and drivers/net/ the preferred style for long (multi-line)
comments is a little different.

	/* The preferred comment style for files in net/ and drivers/net
	 * looks like this.

kernel.org/doc/Documentation/CodingStyle

edwinksl

just. one. line. indeed.

IanC

2:43 AM

@Serg, may I ask you something else about VM? Was just curious how networks worked in it. Is there a way to connect the VM as a separate machine (with one network interface) or it will be connected as the host that is outside VM?

Nathan Osman

/*
* can we please adopt this style? */

Serg

/*
* No
*/

CodeX

//cool

#twitter

Serg

""" This style in python kind of pisses me off , since I have no idea how it works . Sometimes indent works, sometimes doesn't """

edwinksl

let's see how nathan writes comments in his code...

Jossie Calderon

2:48 AM

@Serg it always works

use single quotes.

'''this is commented out forever'''

'''this
is
commented
noob'''

Serg

@JossieCalderon i know ,but i had bunch of issues if i wanted to add multiline comment line that between methods or something. I don't use it a lot

Have a translation task ! yey , after smoke will have to tackle that bad boy , due in an hour

Nathan Osman

@edwinksl Depends on the language.

And how far back you go too... I wrote some pretty twisted code when I first started out.

edwinksl

everyone has skeletons in the closet

i can't bear to read the code i wrote back then

it is pure trash

Edity

24 secs ago, by edwinksl

everyone has skeletons in the closet

execpt me

edwinksl

are you sure

Edity

2:54 AM

i am a pencil

of course

Serg

I want to go back and re-write some of my C code I wrote for the class

Zacharee1

@NathanOsman OK. I did the translations (probably readable to someone who knows Spanish; we'll see). Now what do I do to save them?

Nathan Osman

If it's easiest, just email the file to me.

I can take it from there.

Zacharee1

the ts?

Nathan Osman

Yes.

Zacharee1

3:00 AM

where be your email

edwinksl

copy paste fail askubuntu.com/questions/797981/…

was copied from stackoverflow.com/questions/38338769/…

Zacharee1

lol nice

edwinksl

-1 down vote favorite

it is actually -2 now

Zacharee1

CVed as EOL here because 15.04

Nathan Osman

@Zacharee1 [email protected]

Zacharee1

3:04 AM

thx

Nathan Osman

@Zacharee1 got it. Thanks so much. How much of your info do you want in the credits? Full name and email? First name and email? Something else...?

Zacharee1

the first is fine

wonder how much mail I'll get saying, "Your Spanish is terrible." ;p

edwinksl

still beats no translation :P

Zacharee1

true

If Lucio ever comes back, he'll probably be a good choice for revision if he's willing

edwinksl

terdon speaks spanish too, can ask him later

Zacharee1

3:14 AM

I think he speaks about as much as I do, doesn't he?

4 years or something?

edwinksl

can't remember, something like that

but he was in spain so probably he got to use it more often than you did :P

Serg

that a$$hole dog broken off more fence. And the neighbors kid says "There's little hole in the fence

un freakin believable

Nathan Osman

Time to buy an airsoft gun? :D

Serg

@NathanOsman well , I had to stop her by spraying water. Buuuut whatever authorities we involve they'll have plenty of evidence there

edwinksl

one day the dog will be in your room

Edity

3:23 AM

and who knows will happen...

find out next time on dogga ball z

Nathan Osman

@Zacharee1 looks good ---^

Zacharee1

yay

Nathan Osman

Ready for release!

edwinksl

where is the korean one

Nathan Osman

You want a screenshot of that?

edwinksl

3:28 AM

yeah just curious

Nathan Osman

edwinksl

sick

Edity

:D

i hear there is a minimal spam on here

smoky isn't that active

Serg

3:46 AM

Anyong haseyo !!!

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: Trying to understanding startup procedure of monit

I am just starting to learn monit. On its man page I found this: The behavior of Monit is controlled by command-line options and a run control file, ~/.monitrc, the syntax of which we describe in a later section. Command-line options override .monitrc declarations. And when I created my...

linux ubuntu monit

Edity

안녕하세요!

is it me or do i like watching super mario galaxy deaths

edwinksl

i vote the former

Edity

TONS of Super Mario Galaxy Deaths!

►

edwinksl

4:01 AM

" I am trying to load XP but the floppy is not recognized and the USB ports are dead."

floppy...

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4:25 AM

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Severus Tux

Hello everyone :D

edwinksl

what up tux

Serg

hello

Severus Tux

:)

@ParanoidPanda Hi :) Have a look here : askubuntu.com/q/797993/497359 , I know this is a dupe of one of your questions, I cant find it.

Nathan Osman

4:56 AM

Whoah.

In the last one year, SpamAssassin has filtered over 10,000 emails from my inbox.

IanC

is it just me or this guys is probably going to mess up his computer? askubuntu.com/questions/797310/…

I mean, he wanted to run things as a root, despite all the warnings about how this is not recommended, than he claimed he found the answer to his question

when I went to read it, it actually just showed how to use sudo without a password

Nathan Osman

Yup.

IanC

he doesn't seems to know a lot what he is doing

Nathan Osman

He knows what he wants to do :D

edwinksl

my impression is if you want to run as root but you don't know how, you are probably not ready to run as root

2

Nathan Osman

4:59 AM

Good advice.

IanC

that was what I thought too! @edwinksl

man, I readed more than 300 pages about linux bash in less than a week

I'm getting overflowed with information :O

edwinksl

so you are ready to write some bash scripts to help users ;D

IanC

I still didn't get to shell scripts, they are on the last chapter, but I'm getting close!!

in a few pages I get to compilation and then shell scripts :)

well guys, gotta go get some rest, wake up in 6h

good night!

Edity

@NathanOsman i want to change the language :a

Nathan Osman

Change the language?

Edity

5:14 AM

on Nitroshare

haw do i do it

Nathan Osman

That's not a NitroShare thing. That's an operating system thing.

On Linux, you can use "LANGUAGE=ko nitroshare" when starting the application.

Edity

oh

ok

Nathan Osman

I'm not sure what you have to do on Windows.

Edity

installer changes?

Nathan Osman

You want to translate the installer?

I think it already has translations.

I would just need to enable them.

Edity

5:20 AM

Yes please

and boo hoo :(

Nathan Osman

I can do that for the next release.

Edity

:D

we should have like a nitroshare talking room

edwinksl

pretty sure NS has a gitter already...

Edity

oh

but in stack

i cant create chat rooms

Nathan Osman

@edwinksl I'm pretty sure it does too (if only because I created it myself).

edwinksl

5:28 AM

right from the horse's mouth

Nathan Osman

@Edity gitter.im/nitroshare/…

Try that.

Edity

ah.

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