@mrSuperEvening well sorry about that. Mobile is a you-know-what

yawns

someone owes me coffee

I think it's @NathanOsman who owes me coffee lol

@ThomasWard you're boring on coffee. Go vodka

@Zacharee1 can't right now.

give coffee.

sudo apt send cawfee

Maybe you guys can negotiate like Coffee + Baileys Irish Cream.

thinks

mmmm, no just coffee thanks

I'm having coffee right meow

@NathanOsman Trump just said he wants to boost Nukes a few hours after Putin said he wanted boost nukes... I think they were reading our posts this morning!

@WinEunuuchs2Unix we done goofed

look at dem numbars

a few more and I'll be 1337 AF

@Serg *accidentally purges five answers*

whoopsies.

tsk tsk

@NathanOsman mr. meme bot, we need your halp

@ThomasWard how's your neck to day ?

a lot better :)

Wat.

Who flew the Nathan flag?

@NathanOsman itz meme time >:)

Someone hath called and I hath answered.

@NathanOsman two calls came forth

one for coffee

and one for meme bot

I shall deliver the caffeine.

@ThomasWard Now, whatever you do, don't turn your head sharply to the left to look at that evil thing behind you

/trolling

@Serg There's no evil behind me, that's just the pentagram where I summon the Dark Ones to this world.

the true evil is emerging from that portal behind you

O_o

@NathanOsman E:NOTENOUGHCOFFEE

that's one helluva cup

This graph is accurate:

@NathanOsman Not accurate enough

what is that red thing

never heard of it

the "Oxygen" thing needs reduced by 50%

the "Nutritious Diet" needs to go away

adequate sleep can stay

and the parts that were just removed, "Souls of the Damned (for Nourishment)"

All that coffee is bad for you... that's why I drink beer and smoke cigarettes :p

@edwinksl That's one of the thing that often returns error 404

Sleep. What a fascinating idea. I should try it sometime.

@WinEunuuchs2Unix take it step further, drink coffee mixed with beer and smoke at the same time . . . .wait, that's what I do almost every day O_o

@Seth Linux fish puns? (Took me a few minutes but here you go):

My solution is lots of cofee < 12pm, lots of beer after > 4pm... in between get your oxegen.

@chaskes I think you meant @Serg but those are really good nonetheless! :D

Wow @chaskes you are the pun King... I feel like a fish out of water compared to you!

"sleep" is to "programmer" what "usability" is to "gnome desktop".

Oops. I said it.

@chaskes not bad, not bad at all ^_^b

@NathanOsman harsh

I've said worse :D

@edwinksl but true

Thanks all. :)

I thought Unity was a fork of Gnome Desktop... No?

@WinEunuuchs2Unix well it uses GNOME components...

but I personally wouldn't call it a fork, even if that's its official description

@Zacharee1 yes I couldn't help notice the gnome sessions underneath the hood

@WinEunuuchs2Unix it's a Compiz plugin.

@NathanOsman Budgie is GNOME (for now) and it works great

@NathanOsman Yes I couldn't help notice the CCSM jazz whatever it's called.

Yeah, it's gotten marginally better over the years.

and I noticed the udev, and the systemd and the lightdm and the greeter and the...

Ah, GNU/Linux.

... anyway Ubuntu 17.04 is coming out in 7 days...so I'll see the Unity 8 stuff and snap stuff and...

@WinEunuuchs2Unix think of it this way: Unity is a jacket that compiz wears , and it looks far better on compiz than GNOME does ;)

...and I'll have lots of new bugs!!!!

@WinEunuuchs2Unix Is Unity 8 actually coming?

@Zacharee1 According to what I read yesterday you'll have two sign on's, one for unity regulary one for unity 8

hmm

@WinEunuuchs2Unix no, the first beta is coming.

didn't they claim the same thing with 16.04?

@NathanOsman No first ALPHA is coming.

First pre-alpha!

Oh?

....Alpha 1 in 7 days... Alpha 2 later... then Beta 1.

Whatever it is, the final thing isn't until April.

maybe we'll even have 17.06 :D

... but won't it be fun to be the first guy on the bug train?

like 4.06 and 6.06

@WinEunuuchs2Unix just install 10 DEs. You'll get your bugs then

@WinEunuuchs2Unix woo woo — all aboard the bug train.

@Zacharee1 heck, just install two.

wow someone tossed a flashbang into the discord room xD

@NathanOsman it must be 10. No more, no less

I have enough problems with one DE and 5 different tools that suspend/resume.

Zach's 10 commandments are really 10 DE's

I was trying to reference Monty Python ;P

wouldn't it be 10 is right out?

watil, 11 is right out I think

@chaskes well I think that comparison is in there

but idk

can't watch rn

@Zacharee1 The Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch?

C'mon, I dare someone to install 10 DE's.

Doooo eeeeet.

@ThomasWard oui monssieur

@NathanOsman buy me a $1200 hypervisor and we'll discuss.

'cause that's where it'll run :P

@NathanOsman I think I already have..

possibly

@ThomasWard AWS dude.

@Zacharee1 real ones?

@Zacharee1 5 is right out.

@NathanOsman Not enough. I need somewhere to dump 50 VMs

@chaskes so that would be 12 in my case

yeah, that would work.

@ThomasWard how on earth do you have 50 VMs O_o ?

Unity, Unity 8, GNOME, MATE, LXDE, XFCE, Budgie, Kylin, GNOME Flashback, I know there's one here

and why ?

teh lolz

@Serg I have over 20...

When you need to reproduce bugs, you invariably end up with lots of VMs.

i have only 10 so far

actually no, 9

@Serg Lots of infrastructure

VM harder :D

I'm slowly moving to Docker for testing.

Then I don't need to go through installation.

I feel bad, though, I haven't been using a few of them in a while

Arch and FreeBSD for example

I had a bare metal Arch install.

Then I broke it.

^^ If I had a nickel...

I'd have fifteen cents

Lol.

I'd like to install Arch and Ubuntu 17.04 on my last partition on sda... have to be extended of course with say 16 logical parttions?

LVM is what you need.

I need LVM?... no thanks bad experience with mdadm and EnhanceIO and Intel RST.

I gotta come up with some project for Arch. Otherwise, it's no fun just have it sitting around

Arch isn't really all that special. Except things get updated faster.

You could set up voice recognition "Computer... ARCH"

Arch isn't Debian, I can tell you that much.

Debian is pretty large... Is it like #2 in the Linuxverse?

Yeah, it was a lot more involved. Ubuntu installation is just a breathe compared to Arch. And it took me forever and ever to figure out how to enable keyboard or touchpad or whatever it was in GUI

Why all of a sudden all images on YouTube look low-res for me ?

@Serg click on that little gear and change from 144p to 1080p

@WinEunuuchs2Unix not the video, the actual YouTube logo and bell button for notifications

ok, back to normal

I can't understand why Airbus (an EU company) needs approval from USA to sell 10 billion worth of planes to Iran.

Export controls on (US) tech used in the plane.

@chaskes well those export controls would disappear overnight if Iran started talking to Russia or China on buying their planes for 10 billion instead :D

Funny how Russia can fly astronauts to space station but they can't build a jumbo jet airliner

Wow that only took 10 seconds.

<<< After four months found out why LAMP is capitalized and more importantly what each letter stands for... hint it's not a shiny thing on your night table.

Well, the car is supposed to fold into a briefcase, and I have a couple of other notes I can't make here, but for anyone old enough, this is pretty cool:

hi

Hey how was dinner

Did you have fish and chips :p

@WinEunuuchs2Unix evil, 'cause I consumed fifty souls.

muahahahaha

Well those 50 VM users will just call you up tomorrow asking you to restore their profiles.

they're not the VM users

meh... it's only 50 you have a long way to catch up with ME wars.

My father showed me on craigslist Burroughs Calculator just now. It's amazing how 100 years ago we basically had huge boxes for calculators, while today I've a calculator that does calculus and fits in my pocket . . . daaaaaam,says a beaver

vimeo.com/34664087

^^ huh, didn't box but is Apollo 13 slide rule scene

Oh, the logarithmic slideruler ?

yep

I've never used one of those, i only heard of it

me neither

my gosh . . . computing has really stepped far quite a lot . . .

@Serg There were no calculators 100 years ago.. unless you mean an Abacus. Calculators were invented around 1974 by Texas Instruments.

@WinEunuuchs2Unix see this:

Pascal's mechanical calculator , 1700s

I would put that on par with an Abacus on wheels :D

Until what, the 70's?, computers weren't just waiting for input with stored programs ready to act on the input. Everything, program and data, had to be custom programmed. So they couldn't just use the mainframe.

And this is what I was talking about earlier, Burrough's mechanical calculator

And how convenient, it's form 1800s

xnumber.com/xnumber/mechanical3.htm

They also had cash registers before calculators too.

Also mechanical. Think cash registers.

But of course cash registers had more limited functions

The point is that for as long as humans existed, they were trying to invent computing devices

Computers are just another step in that direction

Right, the switch from analog/mechanical to digital/electronic was huge, but was not the invention of the calculator. Btw, through WW2 "calculator" was the job title of the person pushing the slide rules or adding machines, not the name of a device. There's a good scene in Surely You're Joking Mr Feynman describing a room full of calculators (people, mostly women) forming in effect a larger mechanical device itself since the problem was solved assembly line style.

5,000 years ago in Iraq they recorded debts and assets on clay tablets and invented what we now call double entry accounting. The counting game has been going on for a long time and our computers do it very well even if we use most of the power for music and videos.

Hehe, the trick is that those videos and music use calculations too. TCP has algorithms that predict whether your network is congested or not, and scales down or up the amount of packets transmitted

So, those youtube videos are still calculations . . . we just don't see them happening

Excellent point

Not to mention all the calculations in 3D gaming that let you turn and move in a virtual world... rendered onto HD display

that too

What's with the .mx site in the link in this answer? Is that legit? askubuntu.com/a/863720/117123 Roll over the 'download it here' @seth

@chaskes well that doesnt sound right

why downloading crom from an other spot as google it self

Exactly. but maybe the user was redirected there by google and it's a legit site? just not sure

google.com/chrome

sec

┌─[✗]─[04:09:11]─[michael@NEXUS-ONE]
└──> ~ $ whois www.google.com.mx

Cadena_Invalida/Invalid_String

&PARAMETROS VALIDOS:

 &NombreObjeto    Busca en la base de datos de NIC Mexico el objeto solicitado.
 &=NombreDominio  Verifica la disponibilidad de un nombre de dominio.
 &?               Muestra este mensaje.

&NOTA:
 &Si se busca informacion sobre un dominio este debe pertenecer al ccTLD .mx
┌─[04:09:18]─[michael@NEXUS-ONE]
└──> ~ $ ping -c3 google.com.mx
ping: unknown host
┌─[✗]─[04:09:43]─[michael@NEXUS-ONE]

dont think thats some kind of google network

sounds fishy for sure

@Videonauth it's a legitimate site

@Serg how you know that ?

call me paranoid but i wouldnt download there

Because I'm on it right now

mhmmmm

Also this:

google.com.mx is on the list

You might check your DNS settings , because your ping probably resolved to old IP that is down

$ ping -c 4 google.com.mx
PING google.com.mx (216.58.217.3) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from den03s09-in-f3.1e100.net (216.58.217.3): icmp_seq=1 ttl=56 time=40.3 ms
64 bytes from den03s09-in-f3.1e100.net (216.58.217.3): icmp_seq=2 ttl=56 time=40.0 ms
64 bytes from den03s09-in-f3.1e100.net (216.58.217.3): icmp_seq=3 ttl=56 time=40.5 ms
64 bytes from den03s09-in-f3.1e100.net (216.58.217.3): icmp_seq=4 ttl=56 time=46.3 ms

--- google.com.mx ping statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 4 received, 0% packet loss, time 3004ms

@serg Thanks. That's what I assumed was going on, but thanks for confirming

ok then either they have a very big netowrk range or something is off

┌─[✗]─[04:17:40]─[michael@NEXUS-ONE]
└──> ~ $ ping -c 3 google.com.mx
PING google.com.mx (172.217.16.195): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 172.217.16.195: icmp_seq=0 ttl=54 time=16,718 ms
64 bytes from 172.217.16.195: icmp_seq=1 ttl=54 time=21,513 ms
64 bytes from 172.217.16.195: icmp_seq=2 ttl=54 time=16,965 ms
--- google.com.mx ping statistics ---
3 packets transmitted, 3 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 16,718/18,399/21,513/2,204 ms

but yes whois returns for both IP google as owner and tech contact

@Videonauth Nah, I think it has to do with location. The IP that responds in your case is google's servers in france. In my case it's Denver's servers

( and I know it's France because I did reverse DNS lookup just now )

my locale is en_US.UTF-8

Correction - not locale as in language, location as in your IPs geolocation

ah ok :)) that makes more sense

yes i guess google directs you thorugh its own network and for load balancing serving the side from a location which is closer to me, for performance reasons/load balancing

yep

If you really want to have fun, do whois google.com

you will see stuff like this:

well how did you do the reverse dns lookup?

viw browser ?

@Videonauth I have a script for that. One second, I'll paste

#!/bin/bash
export LC_ALL=C
for item
do
 domain=$(dig @8.8.8.8  -x "$item" +noall +authority +answer)
 if [ -n "$domain"  ] ;
 then
     echo "$domain"
 else
     echo "$item" result is NULL
 fi
done

basically, dig -x is all you need

Or in python, you can do something like this

$ python -c 'import socket,sys; print socket.gethostbyaddr(sys.argv[1])'  4.2.2.2
('b.resolvers.Level3.net', [], ['4.2.2.2'])

but that will probably use your system DNS, I don't know how to make it look up at specific DNS server

nice noted that

I feel like audits are just getting worse askubuntu.com/review/close/656915

yeah audit of a non existant question is worse :p

well guess i cant see it

@Zacharee1 y u fail audit

@Zanna aren't you supposed to be taking a train

@NathanOsman If you are not already aware of him, you would also enjoy the works of Peter Schikele. schickele.com

Oh?

serious but very humorous musicologist and composer. had a radio show for many years. unfortunately, because of royalties, it's difficult to hear the original show.

@edwinksl supposed to be still sleeping I reckon

@NathanOsman For a start, see books.google.com/…

^--- true

me_irl

@Zanna you could sleep on the train anyway

omg, truest thing ever

Me every time: "I know I made this code work, but I bloody don't remember how and have no idea what this or that function does"

fact: its gets weirder and weirde the longe the code exists, i just checked a bashs cript i made 8 months ago for something and felt exactly like that

@edwinksl haha but I'll end up at the last stop if I do that

@Zanna but you know you will end up at last stop even if you are awake, so may as well sleep

@chaskes Yeah, that's Google's mexico domain.

(only just learned this by Googling)

@Seth Thx for checking. After I pinged Serg straightened us out on what was going on. Wasn't sure it a never-mind ping would be more annoying, but proably should have

HHHHhhhhhhhHHHHmmmmmMMMMMMMmmmmm . . .. .

@Zacharee1 always read the comments. First one "too many questions in a single post!" wait, wut? There was only one. Check revision history. Oh.

@chaskes no worries.

@Zanna danke for granting hat

@edwinksl haha you know me well

@edwinksl how did that happen?

you are the 5th to cast reopen vote on a question i edited

Aha :D

I hit back and saw I cast the 5th :) nice edit...

Why am I reviewing at 4am?

who doesn't?

@Zanna withdrawal perhaps?

lol

obligatory

^^ i never delved deeper as LFS

@Zanna love the detective hat :P

i wonder i not got a single hat in two days

but i guess im not that active as i supposed to be for hats

I've not gone too deep, just playing with /proc and such

@Videonauth I got unbanned in about an hour thanks to gracious mods :) been reviewing all this time

:p

@NathanOsman haha thanks! Idk how I got it

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title: freesoftwareskeys.com/download-tubemate-for-desktop-and-enjoy-youtube-videos/ by user634033 on askubuntu.com

@edwinksl lol

weird they put links to youtube amte on a linux site since it is for android ....

Please tell me you guys remember this

@edwinksl uh . . . totally appropriate site to post to . . .

lol

:D

yeah but i can feel the pain of this girl, since im a male and im actually happy we had about 30% girls in MINT coursesworldwide this year, for the girls its rather hard to go through without being asked constantly by hormone driven nerds :)

Good luck with that...

hahaha

......

>.>

It's too settle

@Zanna i knoweth , it's furry settle

Lol

OK, I'm gonna go back to youtube before I break into derp

If I ever get a tattoo, this will be it

lol there is only an arrow missing pointin to the head

anyone of you guys familiar with sound devices on ubuntu? im struggling actually to get the audio from my tv reciever which ends up in line-in to VLC

Umm you want audio out from your TV to go to your PC mic jack?

well i have no tv im watching tv over a vido grabber card which has no audio

No idea what you're saying

so im unsing line-in for the audio and well I got the input stream on VLC working for /dev/video1 which is my reciever

but i cant find which of the audio devices is carrying line-in

look into pactl or something like that. it's command-line utility for pulse audio. You should be able to switch input sink. Used it once but by now don't remember jack . . . .no pun intended

if i get into the audio settings its just saying line-in but no clue how this resolves to /dev/snd/xxxxx

what does ls /sys/class/drm/ reveal? Any likely candidates?

in windows this was in fact pretty easy to set up but well, it wouldn't be fund if its easy ya know

┌─[06:32:31]─[michael@NEXUS-ONE]
└──> snd $ ll /sys/class/drm/
total 0
drwxr-xr-x.  2 root root    0 Dez 23 06:32 ./
drwxr-xr-x. 70 root root    0 Dez 19 17:34 ../
lrwxrwxrwx.  1 root root    0 Dez 23 06:32 card0 -> ../../devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:01.0/0000:01:00.0/drm/card0/
lrwxrwxrwx.  1 root root    0 Dez 23 06:32 card1 -> ../../devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1e.0/0000:06:01.0/0000:07:00.0/drm/card1/
lrwxrwxrwx.  1 root root    0 Dez 23 06:32 renderD128 -> ../../devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:01.0/0000:01:00.0/drm/renderD128/

but aren't this my GPU cards and their corresponding HDMI audio ?

My VGA cards also show up there with their audio too... thought your "video grabber" might be there

┌─[06:32:44]─[michael@NEXUS-ONE]
└──> snd $ aplay -l
**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: AD1988B Analog [AD1988B Analog]
  Subdevices: 0/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 1: AD1988B Digital [AD1988B Digital]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 2: AD1988B Alt Analog [AD1988B Alt Analog]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]

tried as well to use alsamixer to find informations but well lol

i guess i really have to try over all possible /dev/snd device handlers

What's the make and model of your "video grabber"?

uuuuhhhhhh something cheap, but the video grabber isnt the problem, the video feed i get to show up, but im processing the audion over the oonboard audio card

which is

Chip: Analog Devices AD1988B

You mean the video grabber doesn't have built in audio?

he has but theres the audio of my webcam ending :)

which works fine btw

what's the webcam have to do with your having no TV and using videograbber? Sounds like you're watching yourself instead of Game of Thrones...LOL

video grabber audio signal comes from webcam (couldnt get skype work with the line in)

sound card line in is comming from tv reciever

and webcam video comes from the cam itself

So the TV receiver has COAX out which goes to COAX in on your Video Grabber which is installed on your PC motherboard bus?

usb video grabber

ohhh... USB like WinTV thingy

this here is giving me a headache

this is the advances VLC capture device dialog

you think you have a headache?.... you know what you are talking about... my headache is mucho grande

i found out that i get the tv capture video on /dev/video1 so thats sorted but watching tv stream without sound reminds me of the early 1900 yeas where film without sound was a thing :))

i guess i have to have a try in vlc's own forum about that, i wonder why they did it this way, in windows you could simply choose the device via a drop down list

and the onboard audio card being a 7.1 isn't much if a help in this case

neither are the ubuntu sound settings

Well for less than 10 bucks you can get a USB TV tuner with Remote Control: ebay.com/itm/…

the computer sees the signal

this is one of the few unsolved mysteries on my machine the second is how to get the display of my graphics tablet working which is connected to my second video card (both are nvidias)

thats the only i have to whine about using linux instead of windows

:))

guess that might even make two great and genuine questions, just have to refine it what i actually already have tried etc