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also this at the bottom " If you're running into errors, please try to keep in mind that Canonical's Livepatch Service only supports 64-bit versions of the Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) operating system running the long-term supported Linux 4.4 kernel."

TheXed

Oh...

That would probably be my problem then...

Mateo

1:57 AM

worth a shot

I should totally set that up on the tv computers at church

TheXed

You have computers running Ubuntu in the wild?

o.O

Mateo

two of them are running risevision digital sinage at our local church

I made them do auto updates, and had the program auto start

TheXed

That looks kind of cool actually...

Mateo

risevision.com

TheXed

does that work with Chromebooks and Chromecast?

Mateo

2:00 AM

well...

not sure on the status on that right now

they had apps for those at one point I think

TheXed

I was just curious because the school was looking into doing something similar, but I have never been able to get google signs or whatever they call it to work right...

By the way if Chicago burns down tonight I am running away...

Mateo

they actually sell nuc's pre setup with ubuntu as well on their site

store.risevision.com/product/203/intel-nuc-celeron-linux

if you don't feel like making it a "project" ;)

Zacharee1

peeps

yall should cv

TheXed

CV?

Mateo

close vote?

Zacharee1

2:06 AM

yehs

TheXed

Oh they are cheap...Not as cheap as a Chromecast...

but cheaper then I expected...

Mateo

the cool thing, is you can get any old computer and slap it on there

TheXed

I can't mount a full size desktop to a the back of a flat screen tv :-P

Mateo

there were some slim resell ones that had vesa mount that reall cheap

TheXed

Oh they make their money off the templates...

Mateo

2:15 AM

it's easy to make your own

they also sell the cloud storage

TheXed

Yeah I see that...

Mateo

but you can link local, or from another site

TheXed

Yup I se ethat too

thi sis too mcuch work right now...

Mateo

I had been doing a raspi slide show, but sometimes they want movies, or both, or putting in text on they fly - so this is working better, not good enough to completely hand over though...

I need to try screenly sometime

TheXed

Yeah I don't know what the best answer is other then going with a commercial option...

Mateo

2:27 AM

If you want to roll your own server, I tried this one once: concerto-signage.org/why-concerto

Nathan Osman

3:28 AM

Oops.

(Those kinds of people drive me nuts.)

TheXed

yup

Nathan Osman

So apparently my laptop can go roughly 100 hours on standby.

Do not ask me how I found this out.

TheXed

What laptop do you have, and where can I get one?

Seth

3:48 AM

Nathan Osman

5:31 AM

Meanwhile in America:

Happening Now: Democrat supporters carry "Kill Trump" signs at post election anti-democracy rally in SF.… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/796574631171788800

Tweeted by LukieSulz on November 10, 2016 at 4:46 AM

Zanna

6:18 AM

@Zacharee1 I hope I was right in duping this to your Q&A askubuntu.com/questions/847667/… - you wanna update to include 16.10?

Nathan Osman

6:28 AM

This is sure quiet for a Wednesday night.

Kaz Wolfe

6:46 AM

@NathanOsman I see a penguin... and a video camera...

Zanna

7:04 AM

grub-emu is a thing? askubuntu.com/questions/847672/…

terdon

10:14 AM

@NathanOsman Ugh, that's awful. Although the tweeter there is using an interesting phrasing: "democrat supporters carry. . . I see one person carrying a sign, not "democrat supporters".

3

Zanna

11:49 AM

@Zanna maybe this is topic for meta — userDepth 1 hour ago

Anyone got a meta post for that to hand?

Mark Yisri

I notice that SmokeDetector shows up more often now?

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Q: Should we have Meta posts where people can vote for Development codenames?

I was reading this today, it is where people can suggest code names for upcoming Ubuntu versions. Do you think we should take part by taking suggestions here? I am sure the devs would see it and it could be a fun little feature every 6 months or so but would it have any value to the community? ...

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Zanna

12:13 PM

@MarkYisri lot of spam today? and false positives are not super rare

Mark Yisri

12:32 PM

ubuntubuzz.com/2015/06/…

@Zanna as for grub-emu:

gansub

@Serg hello there

terdon

12:49 PM

@Zanna Yeah, it's like grub, but with more existential angst.

Mark Yisri

poor kid

Donald Trump's son

Arronical

I'm not sure poor is the correct word. Probably incredibly rich.

Zanna

@terdon lol yeah I looked it up in the end, but thanks for that, I'm glad I asked

@Arronical indeed

terdon

Still a poor kid. Must be hell in so many ways to be the child of someone in the spotlight. Even worse when that someone is both detested and adored, probably.

Not to mention that the poor little bugger has probably inherited his papa's hair.

Arronical

Yeah there's definitely a psychological cost to it. Still it's fairly likely he'll be able to afford a good therapist!

I can't believe it's real hair!

It must also be fairly unusual to be 10 with a 70 year old father.

Zanna

1:05 PM

similar to Boris' hair, no?

Arronical

There's something a bit more coiffed and whipped like a meringue to Donald's. Boris' is just out of control.

terdon

@Arronical That's exactly what it says on the bottle!

Zanna

USians are generally more groomed than us I think

terdon

As a half USian myself, I beg you not to take Trump as a representative example.

Zanna

haha I am thinking purely of hair, but, sorry, quite right, I will refrain

terdon

1:16 PM

Yeah, like, my Dad is bald!

And doesn't try to hide it by transplanting his chest hair. Unlike some president elects I shall not name.

Zacharee1

LG V20 Teardown - Screen repair, Battery Swap, Charging port fix

►

look how easy it is to take the V20 apart

Zanna

@terdon cringe

TheXed

1:50 PM

Got my headphones on...going to my happy place...

Zanna

:)

arda

hiya @KazWolfe

Arronical

Probably want to blitz this ASAP askubuntu.com/questions/847819/…

arda

in Root Access, 3 mins ago, by arda

> arda@bromachine:~$ sudo apt-get autoremove
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
linux-headers-4.4.0-31 linux-headers-4.4.0-31-generic
linux-image-4.4.0-31-generic linux-image-extra-4.4.0-31-generic
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 4 to remove and 24 not upgraded.
After this operation, 295 MB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
(Reading database ... 273405 files and directories currently installed.)

while I'm here, I think I just managed to destroy my ubuntu install. Is this expected (I think I updated my kernel but I can't remember much that happened yesterday)?

the message is longer, you can see it here: gist.github.com/ardaozkal/c21e53ce9f32e31b4f1b3c39fb2dea15

Benny

2:09 PM

try sudo apt-get install -f

sudo apt install linux-headers-4.4.0-31-generic

terdon

I don't think so.

Benny

sorry

dont install this linux-headers-4.4.0-31-generic

terdon

It looks like you've installed kernel 4.4.0-47 and removed 4.4.0-31. It also looks like you're currently running 4.4.0-31 so the system complains about the stuff you've removed. I'm guessing that if you reboot into the new kernel everything will be fine.

@Benny I don't think that would break anything, I just think it's not necessary.

arda

Probably, yeah. Thanks.

Anwar

evening ...

first here after trump :)

jokerdino

2:17 PM

How is your day so far?

Mark Yisri

@Anwar Donald J. Trump for president! "We will Make America Great Again!"

Anwar

Good....mostly.

@jokerdino thanks for asking. How were you?

@MarkYisri let's see...

Zanna

@Anwar evening! good to see you :)

Anwar

@Zanna good afternoon! Same here :)

why do they do this? askubuntu.com/questions/846675/…

this seems to be a bug. OP submitted the bug report here

TheXed

The intenret is boring today...seems to be a good day to read a book.

Zanna

2:26 PM

@Anwar do you think there could be a workaround?

Anwar

I tried. But I didn't get any clue. The editor is still in development and lots of core things are being fixed between releases. That's what I learned

Zanna

maybe it should be closed then and reopened when there is a workaround? I wonder what's the best things to do...

Anwar

idk. leave it for a while may be. I favorited it. Hope I won't forget

jokerdino

@Anwar Good, thank you.

Zanna

@Anwar It's a good idea to favourite questions to try answering later. I would definitely adopt your good habit, if I thought there were any question I could answer that someone else couldn't easily answer... I only answer questions by seeing them first haha

Anwar

2:42 PM

@Zanna idk how good that idea is. I started using that in this period only. It can be pain and sometimes you will feel that you're trying to answer something no one bother about.

Zanna

@Anwar Yeah I can see that, but I think it helps people a lot in the long term, and the overall glory of the site too.

Anwar

No one would disagree on that i think

Rinzwind

@MarkYisri so it sucked before today?

Zanna

@Anwar then it is a good thing, and thank you for doing the often quite thankless work of answering neglected questions

Anwar

@Zanna you're welcome :) It's not fully thankless i see

Zanna

2:55 PM

@Anwar not entirely :)

Zacharee1

guys I'm so sick

It's Thursday and I haven't been to school all week

Rinzwind

I spent 2 days in bed :=)

Anwar

@Rinzwind good :)

@Zacharee1 Hope you'll get well soon :)

Zacharee1

wat

Zanna

@Zacharee1 :( get well soon

Zacharee1

2:57 PM

I sure hope I will

exams are next week

Zanna

O.O

Anwar

@Zacharee1 try reading at bed

Zacharee1

wtf is this askubuntu.com/questions/847785/how-create-apk-in-comand-line

Thomas Ward

@Zacharee1 Something ithat belongs on the Android site, but if and only if the quality was increased lol

Zacharee1

@ThomasWard I'm not sure there's even a quality to be increased

arda

3:39 PM

> i like write in lefpad and compile in terminal

someone introduce this man to sublime/vscode

Rinzwind

wtf rt.com/viral/366164-man-grows-ear-arm

" Man grows ear on arm in breakthrough surgery"

in case you do not want to click >:)

Nathan Osman

@arda or heck, even gedit.

@Zacharee1 did you see the summary of my sickness this week?

Maybe you have what I had.

I hope not though.

Arronical

3:58 PM

@Zanna I deleted comments on my question here at your suggestion askubuntu.com/questions/847752/…

Zacharee1

@NathanOsman no, not flu. I just almost never get sick, so when I do get sick, it's worse than it would normally be.

Nathan Osman

I hear ya.

Zanna

@Arronical haha thanks, it was Serg's comments that I felt were maybe not quite on topic, but I forgot all about it myself, clean now :)

I see it is in HNQs... but the tr solution is the only one getting love, as it's the simplest I guess :)

Arronical

I found all of them educational, accepted that one as I hadn't considered using tr. It does have the drawback of not being as easily extensible as yours, I could check multiple partitions with sed, whereas that tr command would concatenate the result without spaces.

TheXed

4:13 PM

Speaking of education, if you ever have kids or are a parent, don't be a stupid parent and call and debate about whether your child broke their Chromebook screen or not.

Zanna

@Arronical oh yes, I noticed that I didn't get a newline but didn't try checking multiple partitions... I think you accepted the best one, I'm just suprised that answer got twice as many votes as the others :)

Arronical

@Zanna I do see a tendency to upvote whatever's popular, especially if the other answers seem more complex. Thanks goodness the same isn't true in politics ;)

Zanna

lol ^_^

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4:41 PM

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Q: Best practices when an OP edits the answered question creating an entirely new 1?

This question was triggered by Why do some files appear twice in Unity Dash? After receiving an answer that was clearly correct, The OP drastically edited the original question creating in effect an entirely new question. This seems counter-intuitive to me as the end result makes it difficult if...

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Anwar

5:15 PM

Budgie Desktop became Official Ubuntu flavor

Nathan Osman

Yup, we heard. (Check the starwall)

Zacharee1

oh right

I need to install that

brb

Anwar

Just seen it. Was showing only 2 previously

But I can't star that one!!

Zacharee1

wat

TheXed

@Anwar you don't need to start anything. I am the star...

Zacharee1

5:22 PM

I wonder if I should upgrade to 16.10...

Anwar

5:34 PM

peek didn't work for me

peek?

gif recorder

wat

new app. just tried.

ok

5:39 PM

what new app do you recommend checking?

Zacharee1

whoa

apt has a progress bar now o_O

@Anwar idk what you're talking about :p

Anwar

@Zacharee1 I was looking for exiting new app for desktop to try and play :)

Zacharee1

Budgie DE

TheXed

@Zacharee1 I saw that but I just assumed that iti was always there...

Anwar

@Zacharee1 Thanks. I tested budgie. Pretty nice. but it was a few months ago

TheXed

5:42 PM

I love budgie...

Anwar

is it available via PPA? let me re-check it

Zacharee1

it's available somewhere

Anwar

It's funny that when I place the unity launcher at bottom, the auto-hide settings still says left

Zacharee1

here launchpad.net/~budgie-remix/+archive/ubuntu/ppa

TheXed

@Anwar you should file a bug.

Anwar

5:47 PM

@TheXed against which package?

Zacharee1

all of them :p

this new apt progress bar is really nice

I wonder if we'll ever get side-by-side installs

or at least queues

Anwar

I don't think we'll get side by side. because under the hood it's still dpkg

Zacharee1

yeah...

but a queueing system would still be nice

Anwar

but software center had queue at times. idk if it's still there

Zacharee1

well I mean apt

terminal side

Anwar

5:50 PM

hmm...never heard. but sounds good feature.

Nathan Osman

6:07 PM

@Zacharee1 that's not new.

It's been there for years.

You probably got apt and apt-get mixed up.

Zacharee1

I've used apt before and never seen it

Nathan Osman

In an interactive TTY?

Because it should have been there.

Zacharee1

in a terminal window, yes

Nathan Osman

Sounds like a bug if you can reproduce it.

Byte Commander

Hi there.

@Anwar new icon?

Anwar

6:17 PM

@ByteCommander do you have any suggestion? I love icons generally...

Currently testing orangechelo

and victory

Byte Commander

Better something else than this, because zoomed out it looks like codepoints.net/U+1F4A9 IMHO...

Zacharee1

eyy

Pulseaudio EQ gave me back my speakers on my laptop

default EQ is terrible

modified the headphone preset and it's much better

Anwar

wow! Victory is nice!

Zacharee1

icon pack?

Anwar

yes

github.com/newhoa/victory-icon-theme

It's light and looks good.

Kaz Wolfe

6:26 PM

...

java reflection. wai u no work

Byte Commander

Good question. Next question.

Kaz Wolfe

how do i fix

Byte Commander

23 secs ago, by Byte Commander

Good question. Next question.

Kaz Wolfe

can you help me fix?

Zacharee1

plax

Byte Commander

6:28 PM

23 secs ago, by Byte Commander

Good question. Next question.

;-)

Zacharee1

lol

Byte Commander

It's Java, so probably all you need is an annotation somewhere.

Kaz Wolfe

NO.

Zacharee1

;;;;;;;

Byte Commander

For me that always helped so far.

Kaz Wolfe

6:28 PM

I'm scared to post on SO because they'll say "just use an annotation, your structure is dumb"

Byte Commander

Just that it takes a while to find out which one of those thousands is the right one and where to put it.

Zacharee1

what if it is

@fossfreedom are there plans for autohiding panels on Budgie?

Byte Commander

Also, isn't reflection one of the things one should try to avoid wherever possible?

It's surely powerful, but probably fragile...

Kaz Wolfe

6:41 PM

@ByteCommander i'd rather use reflection than do this...

    // There HAS to be an easier way to register all of these commands.
    new CommandABan();
    new CommandKickall();
    new CommandStop();
    new CommandTag();
    new CommandTempban();
    new CommandUnban();
    new CommandServerInfo();
    new CommandWho();
    new CommandLock();
    new CommandSetrank();
    new CommandWhitelist();
    new CommandKick();
    new CommandTeleport();
    new CommandTeleportPosition();
    new CommandMute();
    new CommandUnmute();
    new CommandSelect();

Byte Commander

Dafuque.

Kaz Wolfe

yep

reflection works here.

Byte Commander

Use Python for Christ's sake.

Zacharee1

@ByteCommander for Minecraft plugins? kk

Byte Commander

Use Jython then.

Kaz Wolfe

6:43 PM

No.

Zacharee1

wat

Byte Commander

Python running on the Java JVM.

Kaz Wolfe

Don't think the Bukkit API likes that.

Byte Commander

v(°_°)v

So how does your reflection look like instead then?

Zacharee1

@Seth you're a rabbit?

@Seth have you seen this phonearena.com/news/…

Byte Commander

6:59 PM

This is actually kind of amazing... youtube.com/watch?v=FqJdzYY_Fas

user136984

@NathanOsman People are only happy with democracy when it is their side that wins.

Byte Commander

wise words...

Byte Commander

7:14 PM

@Zacharee1 You might like this youtube.com/watch?v=X__oo9HptN0

Zacharee1

@ByteCommander yeah

there was a map I played that had a Want You Gone noteblock version at the end

Byte Commander

Also watch the original video of Marble Machine.

That's an amazing device.

Zacharee1

closest I could find

Portal 2 End: Want You Gone - Minecraft Note Blocks

►

Titanium - Minecraft Noteblock Song

►

Byte Commander

@Zacharee1 better Titanium cover: youtube.com/watch?v=thyYYbaNsvo

(note: metal, not minecraft)

These yellow smiley contact lenses look creepy youtube.com/watch?v=jABgNScL1To

Zacharee1

7:31 PM

O_O

Spotify has a Linux app!

arda

@Zacharee1 Yes, and it's pretty good

they actually stopped updating it in the past, but it actually got an update a few days ago

Byte Commander

Never had Spotify. I'm occasionally using Deezer instead.

Seth

@Zacharee1 what's up doc?

@Zacharee1 Now that is something I would buy.

Zacharee1

@Seth I found your G+ :p

@Seth ikr. It seems like a really good phone

Seth

@Zacharee1 oh that is what you mean. haha.

Zacharee1

7:39 PM

lol

why is the Realtek site so ugly?

left-align + small width

Seth

because realtek

Zacharee1

I'm gonna try installing their codec

maybe my audio will get better

Seth

they have a codec?

Zacharee1

yep

Kaz Wolfe

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Q: Java Reflection with Child Classes

I'm attempting to use Reflections (as provided by org.reflections) to handle some heavy lifting, and so I don't need to manually create an instance for every class in a very long list. However, Reflections isn't targeting the classes in the way I'd expect, which is causing some issue. My current...