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kos

4:00 PM

(by the way the command substitution isn't really needed, you could do just ./a.out <<<$'\04')

Seth

@Serg seeing as I closed it..

kos

:(

@Serg I liked your answer better before the edit... EOF is not a character, is a macro constant:

/* End of file character.
   Some things throughout the library rely on this being -1.  */
#ifndef EOF
# define EOF (-1)
#endif

When something returns -1, that is interpreted as EOF. Basically getchar()'s return value in the while loop is constantly compared against -1. Once getchar() returns -1 that's because no character has been read (and the underlying read(), which returns the number of characters read from the stream, returned 0).

Serg

4:28 PM

@kos it was definitely shorter, but I needed to make an answer clear and supported with sources. It still explains the same idea . . .In fact, I may want to add that exerpt from the stdio.h ,too

Serg

4:48 PM

What's sad is that the answers calling Ctrl + D EOF character are ALL OVER THE INTERWEBS ! I'm so pissed . . . perpetuation of LIES ! LIES I SAY !

Zacharee1

Did Mitch just join to post that picture, then leave?

Serg

<.< also, I may have gone full Hamlet just now

@Zacharee1 looks like so

Zacharee1

How'd you go full Hamlet?

Mateo

@AbhishekBhatia delete it? the script basically just moved it into a folder where the system can find it

Serg

@Zacharee1 did you just see my rage comment over there ?

I was being overly dramatic

Zacharee1

4:50 PM

@Serg oh, well that's normal for you, so I didn't notice :p

Also, I feel like my head is going to explode and I'm really tired, so..

SINUS ISSUES FTW

:(

Serg

@Zacharee1 ah, those fun feeling when you want to just chop your own head off because it just feels so inflated it's going to explode . . . Not miss that in any way, but i had it a bit in the morning . . .because I went to a friend's wedding last night

Zacharee1

@Serg because you went to a wedding?

Serg

@Zacharee1 well . . .because [ WentToWedding == True ] && [ WentToBedLate == True ]

See what I did there ?

Zacharee1

ah lol

yes I see it

What language is that? It looks like Python and C fused

Serg

@Zacharee1 bash . . .It's two tests [ . . .] with logical &&

I actually ment to do this :

if [ WentToWedding == True ] && [ WentToBedLate == True ]

Zacharee1

4:56 PM

Ahhh

Serg

then

That's a mess, try again

Zacharee1

:p

bash needs then?

Serg

if [ WentToWedding == True ] && [ WentToBedLate == True ]; then headache="True"; fi

Also . . .

Zacharee1

Oh right, fi

Serg

Zacharee1

4:57 PM

fi

garo

Serg

Haha, fi . . . garoo

I might start doing something like that

kos

@Serg I actually misread the first phrase in your new paragraph, sorry about that... thought you wrote "Sometimes it can be proved that EOF is a character with a code like this" :P

My answer was no better by the way, I tried to clarify it a bit.

Serg

@kos It's one of those things that are currious and unclear, and nobody really teaches that ,but they need extensive reading,too. And it's perpetuated over and over

OK . .. enough of all this C stuff . . . I need to read my python book . . .

kos

Yeah... it's a common misconception.

cl-netbox

@Serg : the one you got from me ? :)

Serg

5:07 PM

@cl-netbox no actually :) I'm retaking this CS2 class, and they do everything in java, but my professor this semester is a cool guy who decided to teach it all in python :)

edward torvalds

5:19 PM

@Serg I am sorry, I was out

@Serg about printing EOF you will definitely get error because it is defined to be integer in stdio.h library

@Serg we are thinking it in wrong way, I think EOF is not a integer (-1) it is a unique character. we use -1 so that any function encounters it, it returns -1

@kos what do you think about my statement (just before this) ?

kos

1 hour ago, by kos

/* End of file character.
   Some things throughout the library rely on this being -1.  */
#ifndef EOF
# define EOF (-1)
#endif

^^ EOF is a macro constant, i.e. in GNU C that is -1

edward torvalds

@kos NOOOOOOO

@kos functions use -1 to deal with it easily

@kos EOF actually is character that comes 4th in ascii chart

kos

@edwardtorvalds That is EOT, as @Serg pointed out in his answer.

Seth

@edwardtorvalds that's EOT, as in Serg's answer.

jinx

kos

EOF is not a character, is more of a concept if you know what I mean.

edward torvalds

5:26 PM

@Seth @kos see the 4th character in the ascii chart asciitable.com/index/asciifull.gif

Seth

@edwardtorvalds EOT, yes ;)

EOT != EOF.

edward torvalds

really?

kos

^^

Seth

really.

@Serg explains it all in his answer :)

edward torvalds

@kos @Seth see the 3rd character

it is EOF

Zacharee1

5:27 PM

@HeatherBrown How do I make my form clear text after the submit button is pressed?

Seth

@edwardtorvalds that's ETX

kos

@edwardtorvalds ETX != EOF. :)

edward torvalds

it say End of text

Seth

yeah, end of text. EOF is "end of file".

edward torvalds

@Seth so do you see, it is 3rd character in ascii which is totally different than -1.

Functions use -1 to deal with it

Seth

5:29 PM

I see ETX defined as the 3rd character, not EOF.

edward torvalds

because that is end of text/file

Serg

skolodya@ubuntu:$ echo $'\03' | cat -A
^C$

Hmm, that's interesting

Seth

@edwardtorvalds now you're stretching it.

edward torvalds

:(

Seth

It doesn't say file, it says text.

they're close, but not the same.

@Serg That is interesting.

kos

5:31 PM

@edwardtorvalds EOF is a condition where the last read didn't return anything (as explained well in some Stack Overflow post I read; there may be some catches in blindly following this definition, but more or less it should be alright). I could call reading a string "hello" as SCH (STDIN contained "hello") ;)

Serg

As many keyboards and computer terminals once directly generated ASCII code, the choice of control-C overlapped with the ASCII end-of-text character. This character has a numerical value of three, as "C" is the third letter of the alphabet. It was chosen to cause an interrupt as it is otherwise unlikely to be part of a program's interactive interface.

kos

Not sure if that's clear.

Seth

I think the confusion arises (and perhaps I am wrong) because EOF isn't actually a thing it is an idea that the language implements. Unlike ETX and EOT.

GNU C decided to use -1 to mean EOF.

In other news the question and answers are really really good.. trying to find a way to make it on-topic lol.

edward torvalds

I think it is ANSI C that decided it to be -1

Seth

Maybe it was :)

kos

5:35 PM

@Seth That's actually accurate, I think that's where the confusion arises from.

Serg

@Seth it's not only GNU C , I think. I doubt they would avoid compatability with older versions of C

Seth

@Serg oh yes I'm sure. I was just going off the source snippet kos linked :)

Zacharee1

I think they have the wrong abbreviation:

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Q: No headphones sound in Ubuntu 14.04 LTE after a fresh install (dualboot)

I installed Ubuntu and promptly lost headphones sound both in Windows 7 (on a SSD) and Ubuntu (on a HDD). I resolved the issue in Windows by just selecting the headphones option in the Sound Blaster control panel, but in Ubuntu the problem still persists. I tried reinstalling Alsamixer but to no ...

We have 14.04 LTE, and 4G LTS :p

Mitch

3

kos

@Serg Probably not, but other libraries may return other negative numbers: gnu.org/software/libc/manual/html_node/EOF-and-Errors.html

Zacharee1

5:37 PM

@Mitch are you a bot today?

Mitch

I sure feel like one

Seth

Why fragmented is the wrong word for Linux.

good, short, read --^

@Mitch lol I have a bad habit of that. Does that mean I'm a girl too? :p

edward torvalds

@Seth @kos @Seth so when I press Ctrl + D, it sends -1 to getch() function?

Zacharee1

WHY SO SLOW

SLOW INTERNET

WHY SO SLOW

AGHHH

What is going on!?!?!

edward torvalds

@Zacharee1 maybe because you are typing too fast

Zacharee1

5:41 PM

@edwardtorvalds ◔_◔

Serg

@edwardtorvalds no, it sends EOT character. When a program sees EOT character it goes, "oh . . .well, there's no readable character, so getch() will return -1. Now while loop test is -1 == -1, so test is false . . .I'll quit "

kos

> Upon receiving that character from the terminal emulator, the terminal driver submits the current content of the line, so that the application doing the read on it will receive it as is (and it won't include a trailing LF or CR character).

Character here is referred to an "eof control character", not sure why: unix.stackexchange.com/a/110248/114435

Zacharee1

I guess it's Comcast

Hey, sent 1st try

kos

Ah yes, because they're actually referring to \04 (EOT), which CTRL+D sends.

Zacharee1

This is rediculous

Serg

5:44 PM

That's what I'm talking about : Ctrl + D is ascii EOT !!! But everybody says it's EOF which is not true !!! Even freakin stty -a says eof = ^D

kos

@edwardtorvalds And upon receiving an empty line read() returns 0. getchar(), which relies on read(), returns EOF (-1) upon a return value of 0 from read().

edward torvalds

@Serg @Seth should read this

Zacharee1

Serg Serg

:p

Serg

Meow meow . . . dont ask me why i did that . . .

i just like meowing

Seth

@edwardtorvalds I have read that, he's right. But EOT is not the same as EOF and @Serg isn't saying that either :)

Zacharee1

5:46 PM

lol

Compromise and say EOL

kos

@edwardtorvalds It's probably mentioned somewhere as EOF because there used to be an EOF character (plot twist).

Seth

@Zacharee1 at that point we should just go for LOL

Zacharee1

I think

(funnily enough that's the letter directly between F and T)

Seth

xD

Zacharee1

@Seth yes: LOL

edward torvalds

5:49 PM

what I am wondering is if Ctrl + C have got 3rd character in ascii chart, why didnt EOF got any character in that chart?

@Serg what do you think?

Serg

@edwardtorvalds That's because EOF is not a character. It's an integer. It's defined as -1 inside stdio.h. There is no real EOF character. But there is EOT , which is ascii value number 4

If you do hexdump of any text file , at the end you won't see any ^D char

kos

@edwardtorvalds And who would want EOF in the ASCII table? Such an unlikeable guy. XD

Serg

DIR:/xieerqi
skolodya@ubuntu:$ echo "Hello world " > helloworld.txt

DIR:/xieerqi
skolodya@ubuntu:$ hexdump -c helloworld.txt
0000000   H   e   l   l   o       w   o   r   l   d      \n
000000d

edward torvalds

me, I like it?

@Serg why do you get ^D in hex dump, shouldnt you get -1 ?

Serg

@edwardtorvalds because hexdump shows characters in the carret notation and backslash notations

edward torvalds

5:54 PM

ok

Mitch

@Seth NOT at all. I do the same sometimes.

kos

Guys you're mixing some stuff. One thing is they keystroke the terminal receives, one thing is how the terminal interacts with the running program upon the keystroke and yet another thing is how the program will react upon whatever the terminal did. EOF is a notion that exists in first place at the source code's level, and then is used at higher levels for extension, but really there's not necessarily always a correlation of some sort.It's all up to the implementation of the program/terminal/OS.

On the second statment: that's why those CTRL keystrokes can be rebound via stty.

Seth

@Mitch xD

in other news, this makes me sick:

Two factor sucks, so... why not just point a webcam at your token? https://www.shodan.io/host/198.2.49.105 via @djvc1993 https://t.co/lMY5nhYNBL

Tweeted by internetofshit on January 25, 2016 at 12:04 PM

Zacharee1

misleading title:

0

Q: DHCP IP address changes automatically

My Dell precision M4800, running Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, periodically changes its IP address. It looks like the DHCP lease expires and for some reason it gets a new IP adress instead of renewing the old lease. Possibly relevant output from syslog: Jan 25 12:14:19 pc-1838 NetworkManager[1360]: <info> ...

networking dhcp dhclient

@Seth lol

Seth

@Zacharee1 LOL

Serg

6:03 PM

@seth I don't get your link :)

I mean . . .what's all that about ?

Seth

@Serg someone pointed an IP cam at their two-factor token, but didn't secure the cam at all. Someone dragging the internet found the stream.

Serg

And . . .why would anyone point an ip cam on something private ?

I'm confuzzd

kos

@Serg That's the point... it's kinda crazy. XD

Please does someone know which duplicate is this one to be closed against? I'm not able to find one: askubuntu.com/questions/725521/…

Though maybe "can't access" = they are getting errors and they're not reporting them.

terdon

6:27 PM

@Seth What is that anyway? A home router with two factor security? How does that work?

Seth

@terdon no, that's the token for their work account.

(or something similar).

user136984

6:50 PM

Any ideas anyone on this by the way? @A.B. maybe? :)

Serg

Coding question, VTC

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Q: Disabling text fields with jQuery

I don't know why this code doesn't disable the "baddr" classes after the "billingAddress" id has been checked. $(document).ready(function() { $("#billingAddress").click(function() { if ($("#billingAddress").attr("checked") == "checked") { ...

mouse javascript

Byte Commander

@Tim Huh? Where did you get that screenshot? Photoshopped? meta.askubuntu.com/q/14982/367990

And hi to all others! o/

Ask Ubuntu Meta

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discussion feature-request close-reasons

Byte Commander

7:07 PM

@Tim and you missed an "on": Please visit our off-topic compass to find out on which partner site in the Stack Exchange network you should ask [I think here misses something as well?].

Close goats (too broad): askubuntu.com/q/725543/367990

SmokeDetector

7:27 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: You might expect Derma ProMedics to be rare by Woodrozw on askubuntu.com

Zacharee1

7:58 PM

@Seth would it be right to ask you to refer this person to the help docs to tell them how to properly answer a question? They've been using the same structure in almost every answer, and their suggestions don't seem to be the most helpful: askubuntu.com/a/725564/274320

Seth

sigh

I'll add it to the list.

Zacharee1

List?

Byte Commander

@Zacharee1 Chat burning down? Nice user icon! ;)

Seth

@Zacharee1 list of things I need to do today :p

Serg

I think I may have been inspiration for that icon

Seth

8:04 PM

the sigh was for something else..

Zacharee1

@ByteCommander joke for @Fabby I made a while ago :p

@Serg do you also say only ping you if the room is on fire?

@Seth ah thanks

Byte Commander

@Seth I already assumed you have a personal ask ubuntu equivalent to Santa's naughty list. :D

Zacharee1

Serg

@Zacharee1 I did, couple times @Fabby's bad influence is rubbing off on me

Zacharee1

Comma splice in the SE app

kos

8:05 PM

@Zacharee1 I wonder how they're not banned from answering questions yet... they have tons of answers with a negative score.

Zacharee1

@Serg lol

@kos exactly

Whew you guys are making me type fast

And on my phone!

And now it's silent...

Serg

@Zacharee1 silent ? Did you hear that the bird is the word ?

FAMILY GUY | Bird is the Word! | FOX BROADCASTING

►

Zacharee1

No ooooooooooo

Serg

I am proudly the 1% of population who haven't heard that Adele song . . . ^_^

Zacharee1

Lol

Serg

8:16 PM

So . . . one of my codes on U&L got edited . . . and the edit comment says prompt is just cruft...

Zacharee1

You're one of ~72,000,000 people

Serg

What the heck does cruft mean ?

Zacharee1

> Cruft is jargon for anything that is left over, redundant and getting in the way. It is used particularly for superseded and unused technical and electronic hardware and useless, superfluous or dysfunctional elements in computer software.

So pretty fitting

Serg

O_o Daym, such a technical jargon

ARGV !!! Virtual Box no wanna play with new kernel

Zacharee1

}×}

Lol

)8)

Corresponding keys on mobile layout

Serg

8:19 PM

It's almost 1:45 but my python reading still not done . . .but i did post one python code in U&L so yay for that

And AWK

And whole bunch of small C code on that EOF question

Zacharee1

What timezone is that?

Serg

That's MST, I'm in the Mile High City

Zacharee1

Wouldn't it be 1:25?

Or?

Serg

@Zacharee1 1:21 on my clock . What I mean is that it's soon time to clock out of my shift in the labs . . .

Zacharee1

Ah

Serg

8:21 PM

I come at 7:30 AM here, and work till 1:45 on mondays

Zacharee1

Yikes

What do you do?

OK I need to rest now

Serg

My job title is "Lab Technician" but technically I'm "That dude who can help me print 2 pages per page or play around with the VGA cable"

Byte Commander

xD

~~Would you mind if I call you "printer and cable dude" from now on? :D~~

Joke!

Serg

@ByteCommander I do not mind at all :)

Now, if you'd say "cable guy" it would constantly remind me of Jim Carrey's movie, which I've not seen yet

Byte Commander

Me neither. Not even heard about it TBH.

The link you given for trying using live CD did not solve problem. Instead it made my grub loader fail. Now i need again to make a fresh install. Your help was useless and it cost my OS and reinstallation of softwares, packages and TIME. — Vi_Hari 5 hours ago

Serg

8:31 PM

ouch

Byte Commander

^ Yes, it was a pleasure to help you for me as well. :P

!d!0t.

blade19899

Cortana is gonna scan you emails to 'help you with your agenda'. Yep: Cortana Gets Better at Helping You Manage Your Busy Schedule | Windows Experience Blog

Serg

Ah . . . That's kind of useful, but at the same time,maaaaaybe, just maybe is a tiny invasion of privacy . . . not like they couldn't keylog email passwords anyway

Byte Commander

@blade19899 Cool, I always wanted a female computer voice that knows more about my friends than myself. :P

@Serg tiny??? That is just ""=$/"=(/)"&§"%&"%$/"$=(/$")&$")/$""=")$(/ to stay politically correct.

blade19899

@ByteCommander xD

Zacharee1

9:08 PM

@ByteCommander sometimes it seems that people forget we have absolutely no obligation to actually help them.

@Serg it's an OK movie. He's not so great as an antagonist

@ByteCommander:

> Vi_Hari You seem to forget that the only reason you're being helped is because we decided it would be a good use of our time. We don't get paid if you walk away satisfied, and we don't get fired if you don't. We help you people out from the goodness of our hearts. If you can't be respectful of us, there's nothing preventing us from telling you to rm -rf / and ruining everything you have. Please have more respect for those who are trying to aid you in your time of need.

Hello?

Tim

@ByteCommander No, web inspector

Zacharee1

9:24 PM

@Tim kinda personal, but when's your birthday?

cl-netbox

Goodbye :) See you tomorrow ... :)

Zacharee1

@cl-netbox bye!

cl-netbox

@Zacharee1 Bye ! :)

@Fabby : Hello and goodbye ! :)

Fabby

@cl-netbox :D

user136984

@cl-netbox: Bye! :)

Tim

9:43 PM

@Zacharee1 September 1998

Zacharee1

So you're a little over one year older than I am :p

Serg

9:56 PM

July 1990

Zacharee1

25?

Serg

yessir

So I'm off work now, gonna chillax a little, then do homeworkz . . .If anyone has scripting questions, give me a ping or something :D

user136984

I have a slight problem...

user136984

It seems Pandas have taken over my computer...

Serg

@ParanoidPanda haven't they always had control over it ? :D

or are you being slightly . . .paranoid ?:D

user136984

10:05 PM

Maybe, but now they're angry and I don't know how to calm them! :D

Serg

@ParanoidPanda bamboo is always the answer

user136984

I know, that's what they said they want, but I don't know how to give it to them...

Fabby

@ParanoidPanda 1. Take bamboo pole

2. smack them on the head.

3. GOTO 2

Serg

Infinite while loop

Also @Fabby don't you know GOTO statement is pretty much obsolete ?

user136984

Ah, who knows, maybe that will be good for this situation! But I think they're going to be too blind to even see the bamboo! :D

Fabby

10:08 PM

@LiveWireBT: enjoy the bounty!

user136984

And by the way, I'm not joking, Pandas really are taking over my computer...

Fabby

@ParanoidPanda 1. go to a terminal session

Serg

@ParanoidPanda well, how so ? You have panda_trojan.exe multiplying on your computer ? did it join forces with rabbit.exe ?

user136984

The CPU is going crazy and I have one incredibly big file now...

Fabby

2. sudo shutdown -h now

3. unplug all power cables and batteries

4. take 500L vat of sulphuric acid

Serg

10:10 PM

@ParanoidPanda which file ? also try lsof | grep filename and kill the process related to it

user136984

@Serg: I ran yes Panda > IWantBamboo and left it for a few minutes... :D

Fabby

5. throw computer inside

Any problem is always solveable

Serg

@Fabby O_o that's a good way to remove malware, you know ?

Fabby

and if that doesn't work, the next solution will involve dynamite

@Serg :D It is!

user136984

So now I have a file which is a few GB in size and growing with the word "Panda" being printed on every line...

Serg

10:12 PM

@ParanoidPanda kill -SIGKILL $( pgrep yes)

user136984

@Serg: Everything is really slow and Terminal keeps on crashing when I open it... So does everything else!

user136984

My computer is becoming unusable!

Serg

@ParanoidPanda TTY ,too ?

user136984

All CPU cores are at 100% and the RAM is crazy too now... TTYs don't want to load...

Serg

@ParanoidPanda Hold ALT+SYSRQ together and press one by one R, E, S, U, B. You'll reboot and everything will be nice and dandy

user136984

10:14 PM

SYSRQ?

user136984

Is that a key?

user136984

Or just the letters?

user136984

Oh! It is! I just had some Chocolate Cake on the keys there so I couldn't see it... :D

Serg

@ParanoidPanda That's a key. Usually on the same location as PRTSC

user136984

@Serg: Yep, nothing seems to be happening, do I press Fn too because it seems to need that?

Serg

10:16 PM

@ParanoidPanda Um . . . shouldn't need too . . .

Well, if everything else fails,powering out will solve the problem

user136984

Well, it's the colour of the Fn key...

user136984

Not exactly, I kind of may have made it go in rc.local...

user136984

Wait, no, that was something else! :D

user136984

Phew, no, I thought I accidentally put that in there rather than something else which looked similar but luckily not! Though I am edging towards getting my system to kill the process... :D

user136984

@Serg: What exactly does the SysRQ key do anyway?

Serg

10:22 PM

@ParanoidPanda it's a system request key (obviously from sys and rq parts). You can send various codes to the OS with specific combos

Magic SysRq key

The magic SysRq key is a key combination understood by the Linux kernel, which allows the user to perform various low-level commands regardless of the system's state. It is often used to recover from freezes, or to reboot a computer without corrupting the filesystem. Its effect is similar to the computer's hardware reset button (or power switch) but with many more options and much more control. This key combination provides access to powerful features for software development and disaster recovery. In this sense, it can be considered a form of escape sequence. Principal among the offered commands...

user136984

Ah... Well, it's a good thing to know about! :)

user136984

I am slightly managing to use my computer now, as I seem to have been able to delete the file and get it writing to a new file... :D

kos

@ParanoidPanda Should be alt gr+r sist

Ah right, in an English layout you should have SysRq... I have it with the equivalent of Prt Scr

Bash scripting is on-topic on Stack Overflow, right?

Serg

10:38 PM

@kos there's plenty bash questions there so yeah

kos

@Serg Alright, then this one should be closed: askubuntu.com/q/725596/380067

user136984

@Serg: Oh! It worked!!! Thanks so much! :D

Mateo

@blade19899 google does that allready puts stuff on the calander

user136984

@Serg: Though I had to do "REISUB"...

Fabby

This is actually a very good idea:

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Q: Modify close reason banner and create an "Off-Topic Compass" site on Meta?

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hbdgaf

10:50 PM

o/ @Fabby et al

Fabby

\o

hbdgaf

+1 to the wiki/banner

New computer has arrived XD. Time to see if it will play Dying Light. There's a Linux version on Steam, but people have been complaining about woefully inadequate framerates on native. I think it will be interesting to bench it on both sides of the house on the same hardware.

user136984

@Serg: I posted a question on it so could you post that SysRq thing as an answer? :)

Fabby

@hbdgaf Woohoo! What are the specs???

BFM???

Serg

@ParanoidPanda sure

hbdgaf

10:56 PM

@Fabby tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/… - wasn't a fan of the APU, but it has 3 pcie 16x slots

Serg

Eh . . .virtualbox is a little whiny baby. You were working just fine in 4.1 kernel ! What happened with 4.4 ?

user136984

@Serg: Here, I think I might calm down the title a little though... :D

hbdgaf

@Serg Did you recompile the extensions?

Fabby

@hbdgaf Decent machine. I still like high GHz...

good for single-threaded apps!

hbdgaf

It's mostly for gaming. And since most games only use one or two cores anyway - it seemed like a good base to build on

Serg

11:02 PM

@hbdgaf it should be done with dkms automatically, but dkms threw an error . . .and there should be a log file . . .

let me find it

this answer is "trusty" and "precise" (pun intended) ;-) – Elder Geek 9 mins ago

@ElderGeek I like your "xienial" comment ;) – Serg 6 mins ago

See , this is the type of stuff that is fun ! But if I try to explain that to my parents or friends, they won't get it ! Sigh . . .being a geeky type is lonely sometimes

hbdgaf

If anyone needs a laugh, my morning this morning was a total comedy of errors:
First, the ignition keyway was frozen shut. Applied lighter.
Water goes into the keyway and refreezes. Heats key.
Ignition turns. Too cold, oil too thick. Kickstarts.
Half way to work, POPPING noise and... no brakes. Now has to coast to a stop.
Gets to work. Key frozen inside keyway.
Shakes head, leaves it there, and clocks in.

Serg

That sounds more like an action movie script than a comedy O.O

hbdgaf

@Serg There was no gunfire... although there might have been if it was within my power when people were cutting me off while I had no brakes...

Serg

skolodya@ubuntu:$ cat /var/log/vbox-install.log
Uninstalling modules from DKMS
Attempting to install using DKMS

Creating symlink /var/lib/dkms/vboxhost/5.0.14/source ->
                 /usr/src/vboxhost-5.0.14

DKMS: add completed.
Failed to install using DKMS, attempting to install without
Makefile:185: *** Error: unable to find the sources of your current Linux kernel. Specify KERN_DIR=<directory> and run Make again.  Stop.

hbdgaf

@Serg you're missing kernel-headers

Serg

11:15 PM

@hbdgaf Mkay . . .I thoguht I've installed linux-headers-4.4 . . . -generic.deb

hbdgaf

@Serg Sometimes it doesn't symlink where build tools expect them - see kali/bt never did

some build tools expect them in linux/headers or something instead of linux/version/headers if memory serves

Free upgrade - came with an optical drive and keyboard/mouse. Now to see if the insides are as advertised.

Serg

Please install the linux-headers-4.4.0-040400-lowlatency package

Ok . . .i'll try that . . .

hbdgaf

Is your kernel lowlatency?

Serg

generic

Fabby

You don't need a TV!

youli e inside a soap!!!

hbdgaf

11:21 PM

@Fabby If I had known my morning was going to go that way, I would just have rolled over.

Serg

I think Fabby is broken , we need to reboot him

hbdgaf

^^ you're inside a soap opera is what he meant

Fabby

Fabby needs worse then a reboot: He needs a sbutdown!

good night all!

Serg

Sleep well, Mr. Vorlon !

run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/header_postinst.d/dkms 4.4.0-040400-lowlatency /boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-040400-lowlatency
Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 4.4.0-040400-lowlatency (x86_64)
Consult /var/lib/dkms/vboxhost/5.0.14/build/make.log for more information.
Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 4.4.0-040400-lowlatency (x86_64)
Consult /var/lib/dkms/virtualbox/4.3.34/build/make.log for more information.

Well carp !

hbdgaf

You said you're running generic, but it's trying to compile and link against lowlatency. There's your problem.

Serg

11:28 PM

So i shouldn't install lowlatency headers ?

or remove generic ?

hbdgaf

I don't know WHY it's doing what it's doing, so, I don't think it's good to advise on next steps. I'm just telling you what I see.

Serg

Mkay . . .

user136984

@Fabby: Goodnight! :)

user136984

How come Shumway doesn't seem to work everywhere that has a Flash player?

Serg

Mkai . . . .i'm gonna get rid of 4.4 for now . . .

user136984

11:44 PM

Well, Pandas have definitely taken over my day! :D

user136984

Goodnight for now though! :)

hbdgaf

Boo.. you have to run on Windows to get in the Steam Greenlight program. Evidently linux is still second class.

'''.
What systems must my game run on?
To remain in Steam Greenlight and qualify for distribution via Steam, your game must at least run on a Windows PC. You can also be developing for any other platform you like, but we are only able to support PC, Mac and Linux releases at this time.
'''
[Reference](http://steamcommunity.com/workshop/about/?appid=765&section=faq)

Serg

71,623

questions with no upvoted or accepted answers

With 71,623 / 10 users, it's 7,162 questions per user, pretty much . . . and if we answer 1 per 15 minutes, that's

skolodya@ubuntu:$ wcalc 7162*0.25
 = 1790.5

hours

Which is skolodya@ubuntu:$ wcalc 1790/24
= 74.5833

days

So . . . if there were no questions comming in, 10 users could clear the whole unanswered set in about 4 months

Zacharee1

Only four? :p

Serg

@Zacharee1 <.< that doesn't include need for sleep and lunch breaks . . .so probably 6 months is more accurate

Zacharee1

11:53 PM

Well that's a deal breaker for me, sorry

:p

Ugh I have to much homework to do :/

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Serg

O.O Zacharee1.exe has encountered IO error

Zacharee1

Lol

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