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12:14 AM
@Serg It's good, mine is better! :P ;-)
@Seth It is... Starred!
 
12:29 AM
@Fabby welp, I'm just an amateur trying to run along side with the pros here :) my mind is quite blank (was very stressful day) and i'm going to bed soon, but i just wanted to say that . . .
nice answer !
 
1:02 AM
This is new.
 
jrg
1:26 AM
FB messenger?
So, I discovered that I need to learn a lot more about cryptography.
what did you discover this saturday?
 
That's the Messenger app on Android (SMS).
It usually opens the app when I tap a notification.
Now it just displays that overlay.
 
jrg
Cool.
 
I'm not sure it saves me any clicks (or "taps" I guess) and it doesn't display the context of the conversation.
So I really don't quite see the benefit... unless... I wonder if it would affect playback of videos since they would still be visible underneath.
In that case, it would be awesome.
 
jrg
1:57 AM
it's the "woo" factor.
BTW, if anyone is looking for a home server, I was informed to go to eBay and find Dell c6100's for $3-400(US). 2U, multi machine, Quad-core (or better), lots of RAM.
 
2:51 AM
I learned that fresh vinyl smells terrible.
 
3:18 AM
@jrg "home" and "server" don't belong in the same sentence :P
@Seth: did you see this?
 
@NathanOsman No I hadn't. That's really cool!
 
IKR.
 
I've always wanted an SEM (that is, since I knew what they were).
 
3:46 AM
@Seth He actually built an SEM from scratch.
There's another video of him demonstrating it on YouTube somewhere.
 
Whoa. Nice!
 
Ping Pong is fun :D
 
 
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4:54 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Nested quote blocks in body: FreeNX terminates session immediately after login by ED95 on askubuntu.com
 
 
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6:19 AM
@Serg :) Thanks!
 
6:55 AM
o/
 
7:06 AM
Thanks! :)
@NathanOsman: Thanks! IMHO Canonical should take M$'s strategy and develop these rules themselves...
 
7:25 AM
@NathanOsman ._.
(I've had home servers for years. Usually relatively low powered, cheap gear tho ;p)
 
@Fabby he old boy :)
 
Actually, kinda pondering upgrading to a low end core/pentium for my next one, since I'm pondering having a few more VMs including a storage server
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: Show JSON in QML without list by Jimmy Lejeune on askubuntu.com
 
7:48 AM
Blacklisted website?
 
@A.B.: askubuntu.com/questions/637956/… actually has a correct answer... The OP is asking for a link and is getting a link... (I voted to keep open)
@A.B. :-) Do you need editing some of your answers?
 
8:05 AM
@Fabby natural mistake to make, its the whole encounter suit thing. Granted, I'd play it safe and just call you Kosh ;p
 
8:24 AM
@JourneymanGeek :D
 
(man, I suspect a lot of people wouldn't have gotten that one ;p)
 
@Fabby upvoted
And comment removed
@Fabby and yes, I need the editing :)
Where is @Serg ?
 
8:42 AM
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Q: no able to install packages as wireshark

newuserSince a month, I can not download package of Ubuntu Software 14.10 This is really annoying. I try to type the command : sudo apt-get update but i have this result : Ign http://extras.ubuntu.com utopic InRelease Atteint http://extras.ubuntu.com utopic Release.gpg Err http://mirrors.compuscene.or...

 
@JourneymanGeek Right-click "Kosh" Search google: done! ;-)
@A.B. Reviewing queues, then reviewing yours!
 
9:25 AM
What's the best flag for this answer?
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A: How to use rsync via ssh with rsa key passphrases?

Vinzrsync -Pavp --rsh="ssh -i YOUR_KEY" DEST USER@REMOTE:SOURCE

 
9:58 AM
@A.B. Edited by Mighty God Muru: don't touch!
Reviewing your answers now
 
=)
I'am in CV
 
@A.B. tssk...
 
Arg, these and this o_O
 
@Muru is one of the few humans around here... Most of the 20+K rep users are robots... :P
 
LOL
 
10:01 AM
r.o.b.o.t.
 
Muru is a human? ^^
 
outch menship
 
FAIL
 
CAPTCHA
 
arch ncemsib?
ncernsib?
 
10:05 AM
:D :D :D
 
arch nemesis?
 
^that!
 
arch ncernsib
we need tesseract
 
some Captchas only read one of both words assuming a human should get at least one of both right.
 
hehe, only 128 close votes in this moment
 
10:07 AM
some Captchas always fail with what I type, independent of how often I try to load them again.
 
I'm too old for this captcha stuff
 
me too
the other week tried to sign up to our ePost service - epic fail. I decided they don't want me as a member.
 
Great decision =)
ePost, that's a german thing
 
Anybody else who always cancel their basket and shop elsewhere after we have to give in all our details again in case we missed to fill in only one of their many fields.
Which could also be a wrong Captcha.
<-- does not need to be bothered with Captachs when shopping
 
Can anyone test this in Trusty and Unity? askubuntu.com/a/638757/367165
especially
keySwitchApplication="switch-applications"
keySwitchApplicationBackward="switch-applications-backward"
for this:
gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.wm.keybindings
I need a smoke, common @Fabby =)
BRB
 
10:28 AM
@A.B. testing
gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.wm.keybindings switch-applications
['<Super>Tab', '<Alt>Tab']
gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.wm.keybindings switch-applications-backward
@as []
(but it Alt-shift-tab works...)
 
@A.B. here I am, buddy. Just woke up.
 
@Serg Sleepy-head!
(or back in Denver?)
 
:D
@Fabby nope, gonna be back on June 8th to Denver
can't wait
 
@Rinzwind: not much to upvote lately from you...
 
He was getting too close to Oli.
 
10:33 AM
this whole trip is very eye opening on some people's behavior. And I suspect once I come back, I'll be homeless
 
@terdon :D
@Serg Come back home next time?
or go back to Denver?
 
@Fabby I mean once I come back to Denver. That city is more closer to my heart than my actual hometown
 
Oh... So when you go back to Denver you will be sleeping under a bridge then?
What's happening? GF issues?
 
@Fabby hehe, family issues. I don't have a gf yet :/
 
I thought you were AT your family right now...
 
10:42 AM
@Serg, you world traveler
 
@NathanOsman: In NitroShare, using 2 Windows clients, when following a link to a non-existent directory (E.G. Example pictures) the transfer bails out and doesn't continue. Is this by design or a bug?
(doing Dir-by-dir now, which is boooring...)
Or should I raise a feature request?
 
@Fabby So, in Denver, it's me and my parents. My mother's mother (aka my grandmother) and father (aka grandfather) live in my hometown (called Marganets). So me and my mother came to the hometown to visit and also try to fix some stuff in the grandfather's house and take grandmother for examination cuz she's having trouble with her thyroid gland.
@Fabby yesterday her two classmates came over to see my mother and wanted to go drink coffee, but . . . .what coffee do you drink at 11 pm ? in my hometown, that has all sorts of people after dusk ?
 
@Serg Is it a diminutive of "water"? ;-)
 
@Fabby so everything resulted into a big family argument. Grandmother had to call emergency. Mother? Nothing, she still went to see her classmates. Who gives a damn about grandmother dying of high blood pressure when there's classmates ,right ? And no, it was really coffee. I had to walk with them to the nearest open shop , cuz . . . I'm not gonna just let my mother wander the streets with two idiots who appeared out of nowhere
At the end I took one of those two guys to the side, talked to the guy, like , this stuff aint right
 
I don't understand, why would you object to your mother seeing old friends? How is it any of your business even? Were you going to take your grandmother to the hospital at 11pm and that was cancelled for coffee?
 
10:50 AM
Now my mom is pissed, because " it's not pretty " and "making her loose face". Who gives a damn about 3 people telling you not to go and grandmother having sky-high blood pressure, right ?
@terdon I don't object to mother seeing her old friends. But not at night
@terdon not in an area full of drunk idiots
 
OK, I have no idea what the area is like. Still, that's your mother's choice to make isn't it? She's an adult after all. I'm sure you objected to her putting such limits on you. :)
Also, presumably the friends live there and are probably more familiar with the dangers than you are. If I'm not mistaken, you've been away for at least a few years.
If the issue is that there was a family medical emergency and she ignored that to have fun with her friends, that's completely different.
 
@terdon that's exactly why i am pissed. She's standing talking, while emergency truck is driving by over to my grandmother's house. She totally ignored it.
 
Woah.
OK, that's just weird.
 
smoke, brb
 
What is it with all you people having to leave for smokes? Are you all at work or something?
 
11:01 AM
lol , nope. We're just nicotine addicts
 
Yup!
 
o_O
 
sorry to bring up my drama here guys. I am just . . . still hyped from all that yesterday.
Nope,they're starting it again
 
I'm a nicotine addict as well, I just smoke right here in front of my keyboard.
 
i gotta leave house guys. Their talk is just unbearable
 
11:08 AM
In house? No way =)
 
@Serg Go, relax.
@A.B. Really? Do you live alone?
 
@terdon No, with my family
 
Ah. Well, I'm with my family at the moment too. However, I established years ago that my room is a smoke friendly zone. I don't smoke elsewhere in the house but my room is my business :)
 
11:27 AM
@terdon I dont't like the smell of cigarettes in the house.
 
And you call yourself a smoker.
:P
 
11:41 AM
@Fabby holidays :=)
 
@Rinzwind You're just scared that if you pass Oli, you will be bludgeoned to death by a giant O.
 
@A.B. They have an interesting ash-tray... or you can sit next to the intake of an air purifier... There are also smoker's candles, although I doubt they really work. Anyway, I have a friend who is overly sensitive to some smells, but she's a smoker. Empties the ash-tray in an outside trash can after every few cigarettes, because evidently that's the smell that actually bothers her.
That said, as a courtesy - I never even think of smoking in a non-smoker's car or house.
 
@terdon nope
I am gaming TESO so I -KNOW- how to bludgeon someone myself :=)
 
@terdon Are you sure they're both not sock-puppets, because John Skeet got bored on SO? I'm just kidding
 
11:58 AM
@hbdgaf That goes without saying! Of course not. But my house is a different matter.
@hbdgaf Nah, I think it's Gilles.
 
 
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1:13 PM
@Serg you awk I prefer perl it's very simple =)
 
@A.B. I still haven't learned perl, so relying on whatever I know, more or less :)
 
^^
I think, we need a python version =)
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Q: Grep beginning of line

user3069326I have a file with the following contents: (((jfojfojeojfow // hellow_rld (((jfojfojeojfow // hellow_rld How can I extract every how to extract every line that starts with a parenthesis?

 
<.< Jacob probably will post it soon :D
 
I think so =)
Somehow boring today.
@Serg Did you test my script?
 
1:34 PM
@A.B. the one with the Alt-Tab ?
 
Yes
 
Nope. I've read through it, and i saw you're using gsettings, but that same command didn't work for me outside the script. I'll install emacs in a second and test it, but i suspect the result is the same. Disabling Alt TAb only works for me in the CompizConfig settings manager
 
@Rinzwind Congrats! ;-)
 
I've thought of adding a C version to that grep question, but . . . I kinda forgot how to use pointers and read files in c -_-
 
Ok, thank you
he, a C version, nice =)
@Fabby why?
 
1:39 PM
He's on holidays...
 
smoke BRB
 
@terdon You've got an entire house... I've got a flat...
 
@Fabby At the moment, I got a room. I've moved back with my parents while my broken leg healed and until I find a new job. But I've never lived in a place where I couldn't smoke. That would be awful.
 
2:05 PM
._.
 
@kos good question, by the way
 
@terdon: most of singapore's non smoking
 
user136984
What is this guy asking?
 
user136984
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Q: Proble Picked up JAVA_TOOL_OPTIONS: -javaagent:/usr/share/java/jayatanaag.jar

Ibrahim AbbyHi i have error after installing jdk1.8.0_45 in ubuntu 15.04 "Picked up JAVA_TOOL_OPTIONS: -javaagent:/usr/share/java/jayatanaag.jar java version "1.8.0_45" Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0_45-b14) Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 25.45-b02, mixed mode)" please help me out...

 
My boss smokes, and it annoys the heck out of him that he needs to go out of the building to light up ;p
 
user136984
2:08 PM
He says that there is an error, but I don't see one...
 
@Serg, can I combine awk '/DHCPREQUEST/' | awk 'END {print}' into a single awk command?
awk '/DHCPREQUEST/; END{print}' doesn't work
 
sudo awk '/DHCPREQUEST/ { var=$0 } END{print var}' /var/log/syslog
Jun 21 17:08:25 anaconda dhclient: DHCPREQUEST of 192.168.43.209 on wlan1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 (xid=0x29c4eb3e)
Last instance of DHCPREQUEST will be stored into var, so that's what's gonna get printed
 
2:26 PM
sigh . . . networkmanager is funny. There's option for logging but it doesn't create a separate log file. what were the developers thinking ?
 
@Serg associated doesn't work for me o_O
 
@A.B. weird. can you do grep -i 'associated' /var/log/kern.log and grep 'wlan' /var/log/kern.log ?
-i flag for ignore case matching
 
I FOUND IT
/var/lib/NetworkManager/timestamps
 
@Serg ok?
7cab2c7d-1027-4d77-9f93-95453ef5ed00=1433968019
23ffc61c-8015-4a08-9a6b-1f727f640d83=1433968242
20ea48e5-bd11-4732-83c6-d25902d3daf3=1433969684
5fd9d23b-4d70-441f-947a-f56d0a52700e=1434033102
 
2:38 PM
@JourneymanGeek Good thing I don't live there then. You mean even in your own home?
 
no idea
 
@Serg grep -i 'associated' /var/log/kern.log shows nothing
 
I've heard that Singapore has some draconian laws but telling people what to do in the privacy of their own home seems a bit excessive.
 
Oh, you can smoke at home.
Just not within 50 meters of the building exit.
also, pretty damned heavy taxes
and the cigarettes must have a duty paid label.
and
yeah... pretty much ;p
not that I mind too much
as a non smoker ;p
 
Smoking people will need pretty big houses to stay away 50m from the entrances...
 
2:43 PM
;p
Nearly everyone lives in apartments
and the buildings are typically less than that far apart...
 
@A.B. those are epoch times for each particular access points showing last time each been connected !
 
@Serg Your command gives me Di 17. Mär 09:16:25 CET 2015, that can't be
 
What? You mean I can't smoke while leaning on the inside of my own door?
Please! I suppose that cars can drive within 50 meters of my house though, right? Grrr.
 
@A.B. hmm, sort command . . . it's probably sorting incorrectly
 
your sort is wrong
 
2:47 PM
lol
@terdon: They won't ban it, but they will make it a pain in the arse ;p
 
@A.B. how is this : date --date=@"$( awk -F'=' 'BEGIN {var=0}{if(var<$2) var=$2;} END{print var}' /var/lib/NetworkManager/timestamps )"
 
great
that works
master of awk =)
 
@Serg Shorter, if you care:
date -d @"$(awk -F'=' 'var<$2{var=$2;} END{print var}' /var/lib/NetworkManager/timestamps)"
 
@terdon I don't get this - kos and sebastian report their files contain only access points, no epoch timestamps
This whole switch-a-roo with network manager in 15.04 pisses me off , quite frankly
anyone with 14.04 can confirm my method ?
 
@Serg What question is this about?
 
3:00 PM
@serg and me need upvotes, because the +3 answer is wrong
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Q: How can I reliably check which is the last time an Ubuntu machine has been connected to the internet?

kosHow can I reliably check which is the last time an Ubuntu machine has been connected to the internet? In case this is not possible, a way to check the last time an Ubuntu machine has been connected to a network would be good enough.

 
@terdon ^
@terdon so I have this file /var/lib/NetworkManager/timestamps
contents are like this connection-id-in-hex=epoch-timestamp
I'm trying to extract latest connection
 
I doubt there will be a surefire way. What if you didn't connect via the GUI?
AFAIK NetworkManager is GUI only.
 
what about nmcli ? isn't it the same ?
 
kos
Discussing my question huh? :)
 
ohai :)
So, @kos are you using 14.04 ?
 
kos
3:06 PM
@A.B. Why do you think DHCPREQUEST is not reliable? I think a DHCP request is performed only each time a connection is being negotiated
@Serg o/ Nope, 15.04
 
@Serg That still goes through networkmanager though.
 
@kos when sebastian and you said you guys only see hex numbers there, my immediate response was that the file might be different , because 15.04's network manager is different
 
@kos how about grep "link up" /var/log/syslog?
Though that probably shows when you were connected to your network, I don't think there's any way of differentiating a LAN with no internet from one that's connected to WAN.
 
kos
@Serg So you have something different in there?
 
Also, @kos, does this need to be portable or Ubuntu only?
 
3:12 PM
@kos my file is exactly like i posted it in the answer. The thing is that 15.04 has nmcli commands different that nmcli in 14.04, so i kind of freaked out, maybe there's some other differences
 
kos
@terdon Yep I guess so. That's a shame. Doesn't Ubuntu always connect to Canonical's servers once online? I think I've read something like that in an answer
 
@kos Ewww, really?
 
kos
@Serg No idea!
@terdon Hmm I'd say Ubuntu only it's fine, I want to use this on my machine
 
@terdon yup, with the lenses/scopes they connect to canonical and that connects to amazon or whatever.
 
kos
@terdon I think so. Let me see if I can find that answer again
 
3:14 PM
@kos by the way check /var/lib/NetworkManager/seen-bssids if you want to also know which connection those hex numbers represent
 
kos
@Serg Oh that's cool!
 
@kos Ugh, never mind, just one more reason why I won't use Ubuntu.
 
kos
@terdon Oh you don't? Which distro are you on by the way?
 
scopes are easy to disable, then with netstat check if you have any outgoing connections to canonical servers or whatever
 
@kos At the moment, a hybrid of Mint Debian edition and Debian testing. I started with LMDE, then switched my repos to pure testing for a while and back to LMDE when they came out with their latest version.
I did use Ubuntu for a couple of years but that was ~6 years ago I guess.
 
kos
3:20 PM
@Serg Yeah I tought the answer would have been something about that. If you find an easy way to do that you have my acceptance :)
 
Any LibreOffice Impress experienced users?
 
kos
@terdon Ah I see. I tought about trying Debian- However for the use I have to make of my machine I don't think I'd see an improvement, and I don't like changes :)
Any good average-user reason to switch to Debian?
 
@kos Part of why I dislike Ubuntu is all the changes they make :)
 
You know whether I can expect my presentation to be displayed correctly with OpenOffice 2.2 when I set the ODF-version I save as to 1.0/1.1?
 
@kos Personally, I really dislike the direction Ubuntu is going in. They make too many changes to basic system stuff and like to force their users to behave in specific ways (see Unity menus/close buttons etc, for example).
Plus, I don't like the idea of a corporation being behind my OS but that's just me. Still, things like the spyware (amazon search 'feature") they include are scary.
 
3:24 PM
@terdon :) You're lucky! I had to give up smoking in my own place when I moved in with my current GF... But I got used to it as you can't smoke most places anyway...
 
@Fabby Mine smokes :)
We'll be keeping each other company in the hospital :)
 
@terdon :D
@ByteCommander should if you don't use any advanced features...
 
Would you like to save my ass for another presentation, please?
 
kos
@terdon Spyware, really? What is that about?
 
@Fabby You know how I add a text field to the master slide?
 
3:26 PM
@ByteCommander pdf always works, why not export it as that ?
 
If I do as I thought, the field belongs to the background of the normal slides and I can't edit it any more.
@Serg That's my last resort. If everything else fails, I have a pdf version with me.
 
kos
Plus I don't know anything about that other stuff, I'm too recent user to be aware of what's going on about that
 
So the text field should be fixed, but I need to edit the content of it in the normal slides.
 
I'm sure some people actually like it, but the idea of data from my machine being sent to corporate entities bothers me.
 
3:28 PM
@terdon: (off topic) Thanks for the help of some days ago. If do you need help about bash or Inkscape (my better known programs), don't doubt to ask me about.
 
@kos basically, the shopping suggestions when you search dash, is what the fuss is all about.
 
@Helio You're very welcome and I might take you up on that. I'm OK with bash but I do sometimes have inkscape issues:)
 
@ByteCommander I don't even know what you're asking... Private room?
 
skype?
No need for so many rooms...
 
(y)
 
3:29 PM
@Helio plus, I have a fondness for Canarios, I had many friends from the islands, including some house mates.
 
@terdon: From what island? Gran canaria?
 
kos
@terdon I like how the author addressed precisely me with "Just in case any of you have been living under a rock for the last few months" :D
 
@Helio Tenerife and GC
I lived in barna for 7 years and there are a lot of you guys there :)
 
@terdon: the granmother of my grandfather was born it Tenerife but now my family lives on GC and I and my fathers now we are living on "la peninsula"
 
Traitors! :P
 
3:34 PM
@terdon: My mother is from la peinsula ¿how can I say in English?
@terdon: A friend says: If your wife says you "jump of the balcony", buy a small home.
 
@Helio From the mainland.
 
@terdon: Ok.
 
Ohm and padres = parents fathers means you have more than one father.
 
@Helio peninsula is a perfect English word...
 
@terdon: Oops. :-/ I can't edit now. "Sólo" tengo dos padres. Y eso por el plural. Puesto que tengo un padre y una madre :-P
 
3:37 PM
@Fabby Yeah, but in Spain it's used to refer to the mainland as opposed to the islands.
 
@terdon: I've to go now. If do you need something, please ping me.
 
@Helio Me extrañaría si tuvieras mas.
No worries, we're all here to help each other anyway :)
 
kos
@terdon How many languages can you speak? :D
 
5
 
5?
 
3:40 PM
But I cheat. I was raised a bilingual and then lived in Spain and France. It's easy to pick up languages when you live there.
@A.B. English, Greek, Spanish, French and Catalan in order of fluency.
Well, the 1st two are equal, really.
 
5 languages, that's crazy o_O
 
kos
@terdon Well that's impressive
I can understand Spanish because it's pretty much close to Italian, and French also a bit, but of course I can't speak them.
 
Yeah, if you speak one or two Latin languages, you can get the rest. I can understand quite a bit of Italian and Portuguese for example.
@A.B. I got two for free, I only had to work for 3 :)
 
=)
impressive
 
I've got 3 . Native: russian/ukrainian. Learned: english and chinese. I took year of spanish in high school but forgot it all
 
kos
3:47 PM
@terdon Yeah they're similiar. I envy you a bit, I'd love to had been raised by two different native speakers, it comes so handy and you can easily make a work out of it.
 
I wanna tackle korean and vietnamese in future, but so far . . .nothing. I wanna pickup cantonese chinese the most cuz the girl i like speaks canto
 
Yes, it is probably the greatest gift my parents ever gave me. Especially since one of the two is English.
@Serg You speak Mandarin?
 
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Q: Booting encrypted disk kernel error: Cannot initialize device-mapper

CaballeroI have Ubuntu 15.04 with a default full disk encryption installed on my chromebook Pixel with linux-samus kernel patch and everything is working fine. I've just tried compiling a newer version of the kernel (4.1), but when I'm trying to boot it I'm getting an error where I would normally enter th...

 
@terdon yessir
 
Nice, I'd love to learn a non indo-european language.
 
kos
3:50 PM
@Serg Привет
 
@kos hello :)
@terdon mandarin is easy grammar-wise. Just takes time to learn vocab and getting used to tones. Otherwise the language aint that hard
 
kos
@Serg I started looking at some free online Russian courses recently. I'd like to learn Russian. Also am I wrong or the sentences construction is somehow more similiar to latin languages? (I mean the order of the words at least)
(more than English I mean)
 
@kos I think sentence structure is pretty close, but the thing is russian has crazy grammar. It's better to learn conversational part first. Then go into grammar and sentence structures.
Especially verbs. Russian has tons of ways how verbs change
russian run vs english run
 
OMG
 
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