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Nathan Osman

12:00 AM

@Seth I am expanding it soon. I'm about halfway through making the changes necessary to do that.

Seth

cool.

KGIII

@NathanOsman The "Smart RSS" extension, linked earlier, is awesome. I've installed it and played with it - I've got it configured to pull down some "smart people answers" (you're obviously on the list) and, so far, it has been a very nice feature. It reminds me, a great deal, of the old RSS functionality that was built into Opera. It's seemingly pretty light, that's a good thing.

Oops... Sorry.

Seth

hehe :D

Nathan Osman

@KGIII Oh cool.

KGIII

LOL I have no idea how that happened. I didn't mean to ping you. Sorry if it confused you. :D

It means I won't eat up your API key counts. :D I like it - thanks for finding the RSS feeds. I knew about the question feed but not the user answer/activity feeds. I filled it right up with a bunch of smart folks.

(You made the list too, Seth.)

Nathan Osman

12:33 AM

Sweet - new design over on GitHub:

Zacharee1

@KGIII you see my answer?

KGIII

No. You didn't link me to it. ;-)

Zacharee1

RSS? :p

KGIII

LOL I'd not looked. I can do that now! Nice - lemme see if it has come through.

Zacharee1

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A: Script to empty trash

A nice way to execute scripts by double clicking them is to make a .desktop file, which is essentially a shortcut. Aside from scripts, it can execute pretty much any executable, including .jar. Here's how to make one: Create a file and name it <program name>.desktop Open it with GEdit and paste...

KGIII

12:40 AM

Yeah - I've got it on my screen. I don't have it set to notify me - I have to check it manually. I don't want it bugging me so I never set it up to give me notifications.

@Zacharee1 I can't tell, from their comments. Is it actually working?

Zacharee1

No, not yet. I just went into Ubuntu and am now trying it out

KGIII

@NathanOsman ^^

kos

@Zacharee1 You don't need sudo to empty the trash, ~/.local/share is owned by the user (and ~/.local/share/Trash also)

Zacharee1

Hmm. Ok

@kos Hey, it works now!

I had the sudo because that's what they had.

kos

@Zacharee1 \o/

Yeah, that was unuseful

Nathan Osman

12:49 AM

@KGIII That looks great.

KGIII

I thought you might like it. It's like the old Opera RSS reader. Want a link to the extension? Actually, here it is: addons.opera.com/en/extensions/details/smart-rss/?display=en @NathanOsman

Zacharee1

@KGIII heh. Sorry about the spam lol

KGIII

LOL It's all good. It's not your fault - though you two did have quite a chat in the comments section. ;-)

Zacharee1

:p

KGIII

They just had, umm, a lot of questions.

Nathan Osman

12:51 AM

Why is the source code for the Raspberry Pi kernel 600 MB???

Neil

@NathanOsman is that big ?

Nathan Osman

I was expecting about 50 MB.

Chan-Ho Suh

lol

KGIII

Source is often huge. :/

Wait, that's just the kernel?

Nathan Osman

Yup.

KGIII

12:53 AM

LOL Okay, that is huge.

Chan-Ho Suh

is it heavily commented? ;-)

Nathan Osman

I must have done something wrong somewhere along the line.

KGIII

Is it the 4.4 RC2 that just dropped?

Nathan Osman

Hmm... I checked out this repo so whatever the default branch for that is.

Zacharee1

@NathanOsman lol

KGIII

12:57 AM

is looking

Nathan Osman

I'm going to try checking it out again.

KGIII

Oh, I gave you a "preemptive vote" @Zacharee1 so don't let me down. I'm trusting you to get it right while I'm away later. ;-)

Zacharee1

@KGIII oh, it's solved

KGIII

Ah - good. I didn't want to look silly, after all.

Nathan Osman

With LZMA compression, I still get a 605 MB archive.

KGIII

1:00 AM

When you pull, are you pulling the whole source for everything?

Nathan Osman

Just "--depth 1".

KGIII

And it looks like it's a full distro's worth and not just the kernel.

Nathan Osman

And I removed the ".git" directory before compression.

KGIII

Ah no, it's the kernel but lots of extra stuff in it. I don't have a clue what's in it. :)

Zacharee1

@KGIII added to my answer to say it's solved.

KGIII

1:01 AM

Maybe you should ask @RPiAwesomeness for insight? They seem to know a metric butt-ton about the RPi.

Nathan Osman

root@rpi:~/linux# du -d 1
36	./usr
1168	./block
308	./virt
2344	./security
6180	./firmware
3144	./scripts
6908	./kernel
3048	./mm
37432	./fs
192	./init
2876	./crypto
396	./samples
134648	./arch
32340	./include
3396	./lib
349204	./drivers
29688	./sound
9232	./tools
30812	./Documentation
240	./ipc
26272	./net
680392	.

KGIII

A butt-ton is an official standard unit. nods

Zacharee1

yep

KGIII

That's insanely huge @NathanOsman. I have no idea why.

Nathan Osman

/drivers is 349204 KB...

Zacharee1

1:03 AM

I have an idea. We should all keep our various spelling mistakes and such in our messages if they've already been sent, unless it's a serious discussion about an Ubutu issue.

KGIII

There's no way you should need all that for a Pi.

Zacharee1

It's a virus

dun dun dun

Nathan Osman

@Zacharee1 George had a tendency to correct people who spelled "color" with a "u".

:P

KGIII

I just use spell check @Zacharee1. It usually catches anything I'd have missed.

Zacharee1

How ignorant :p

@KGIII but don't. Just send with the typos

It'll be fun ;p

KGIII

1:04 AM

I don't know if my brain will let me. :/

Zacharee1

haha

Just do it and see what happens

KGIII

I have to watch a movie with the missus in a little while. :D

i can haz movey tiem pl0x?

Zacharee1

If you catch the error before you send (without actually reviewing) you can fix it

@KGIII ok

Your wish is granted @KGIII

KGIII

lulz to sea if i kan misspel wordz will be intrestung.

Zacharee1

spodermen lenguege

aim bed et dis

KGIII

1:05 AM

Yeah, that kind of hurts my head.

The thing is, I'm an atrocious speller. Without spell check, I'd look even more mentally handicapped.

However, I've been using spell check for a very long time so I've since learned to spell a great deal better than I used to.

Also, I found a laptop that I may be ordering - I've cut the price down a bit to make it more reasonable. Anyone have any experience with Titan? I have a friend who just got this model and he's gushing about it and, frankly, I'm inclined to think he's right. Here's a link: titancomputers.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=X4K

You can configure it a bunch of different ways. I'd go with the 3 TB of SSD model, the 17', but I can skimp on graphics though I'd get all the RAM, and would probably skip the BR drive.

I'd go with the RAID 0 of course.

Zacharee1

Lol, 17'

KGIII

I'm compensating. I need a big laptop. :(

Zacharee1

' = foot

If you can carry 9lbs around with you, though, I recommend it

KGIII

Actually, I prefer a big laptop. :D

Zacharee1

17 foot laptop, eh?

KGIII

1:12 AM

I don't mind the weight. It goes in a messenger bag anyhow.

D'oh! I'll leave it in the spirit of spelling mistakes! :D

:p

That'd be a big lap.

yes, yes it would

I'm not that big. :/ I'd need a bunch of me to use that.

Err... I'm 5' 11" and 170 lbs. I think that'd dwarf me.

Zacharee1

lol

KGIII

1:15 AM

I'm not a very big guy.

Zacharee1

BRB, need to go back to Windows

KGIII

You have no shame, no shame at all. :P

ō_ô

;-)

ಠ_ಠ

1:26 AM

Hmm... I saw someone's avatar that reminded me of you're emoticon. Lemme see if I can find it while She Who Must Be Obeyed finds us a movie.

Zacharee1

ಠ_ಠ -- your

KGIII

Louis Matthijssen, Netherlands

3.7k 1 12 34

There you go - spelling error included. :D

Zacharee1

:p

I see the resemblance

KGIII

I was doing good until you mentioned spelling. :D

'Tis all your fault.

Zacharee1

That's why I'm here :p

KGIII

1:29 AM

Well, you have a purpose in life. :D

Zacharee1

ಠ_ಠ

KGIII

Their avatar made me think of you. LOL I was going through the users to find the ID numbers for those that I wanted to add to my RSS feeds.

Zacharee1

^~^

I think

KGIII

I'll just have to agree.

Zacharee1

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KGIII

1:31 AM

Anyhow, it is movie time. I'll sneak back when it's dull.

Zacharee1

bye bye

KGIII

That was kind of neat as it faded from green to black.

Zacharee1

Yes, it was

KGIII

LOL See ya in a few.

It's Seven Years in Tibet, a good flick - I've seen it before.

kos

Sorry @Zacharee1, I made another small edit. My previous comment was a bit misleading.

Zacharee1

1:33 AM

You forgot the . before local, and it's perfectly fine

ai welcom teh editz

Journeyman Geek

Considers modeditting the errors in the previous statement

Zacharee1

nuuu

pls

wai wud u do dat

:p

Journeyman Geek

Cause bad spelling is hard for me to read ;p

Amusingly cause I'm dyslexic

Zacharee1

The whole point is the bad spelling. It's spoderman

kos

Woops, indeed, sorry about that

Zacharee1

1:37 AM

I fixed it, dinne ye worry

dis fur u @JourneymanGeek

TFW you're the only one here with @NathanOsman's script

RPi Awesomeness

@NathanOsman lol, that pinged me :D

Zacharee1

Wow, that worked well :p

And me.

Ohai @Zacharee1 :)

hey

1:43 AM

oh, just remembered im on my desktop, didn't install it on here - installed on the laptop

Zacharee1

@Mateo ō_ô

Nathan Osman

<--- is compiling a kernel ATM

Zacharee1

@NathanOsman oh, many fun

such ingenious

RPi Awesomeness

@NathanOsman I might have to do something like that soon :P

Zacharee1

very program

RPi Awesomeness

1:44 AM

Accursed Wacom tablet won't work

Nathan Osman

For the Pi?

RPi Awesomeness

No, for my laptop/desktop

Nathan Osman

Oh.

PyRulez

Did you try turning it on and off again?

Nathan Osman

Buuuuuut if you ever need to compile one for the Pi, I haz a script: gist.github.com/nathan-osman/ed7beb20d10602aa2900

Zacharee1

1:46 AM

@PyRulez ಠ_ಠ

Mateo

there we go ;)

Zacharee1

@NathanOsman I'm so glad you showed me ಠ_ಠ

2

Mateo

@RPiAwesomeness i bet the pen is broke from what you said last time

RPi Awesomeness

@Mateo No, it works fine on my mom's Windows laptop

Mateo

should move mouse on hover, click on touching

Zacharee1

1:48 AM

@Neil o/

Mateo

@RPiAwesomeness aw, oh well

Nathan Osman

drivers/built-in.o: In function `mmc_fixup_device':
:(.text+0x7bf6c): undefined reference to `mmc_debug'

Nice.

Zacharee1

Whoo, 78 more words to write for my essay

(ugh)

You wouldn't think 750 words would be hard, but I cannot write long statements

Nathan Osman

I feel like that XKCD comic. First I try to run a Go application. Then I discover Go 1.5.1 isn't available. Then I try to build the package using Raspbian in qemu. Then I realize the Debian Jessie image doesn't work with kernel-qemu. Then I try to compile my own kernel.

Zacharee1

And then you realize you don't have a computer

Nathan Osman

1:52 AM

Yup.

Zacharee1

:p

Nathan Osman

Aha.

40% of OpenBSD installs lead to shark attacks. It's their only standing security issue.

2

Zacharee1

I know the feeling

Think I can make my conclusion 78 words?

Many sad

(It says no root strategy available)

Mateo

@NathanOsman I did something like that to a pi once, got on a tangent of installing a new chromium package, then forcing a upgrade of libc6...

Nathan Osman

I can see where this is going...

The moment you do something to libc6, the game's over :P

RPi Awesomeness

2:01 AM

Yeesh. Why is this so complicated. Wacom, can we please have decent Linux support :(

Mateo

it clearly had some kind of "Are you sure you want to do this?" message...

Argh.

noice

It won't boot with the Debian Jessie image.

Zacharee1

2:05 AM

I don't know what you're talking about, but I send my condolences :p

Nathan Osman

I'm trying to boot a kernel/disk image with qemu.

...and failing.

Neil

@Zacharee1 @NathanOsman o/

Nathan Osman

Seems like SELinux is the root cause here.

@Neil o/

Neil

2:21 AM

Zacharee1

^ true

KGIII

3:02 AM

Ho hum... We went with football instead of a movie. We started the movie but we gave up. Neither of us really likes football or anything but it's something to do. :D It is halftime.

Nathan Osman

Nothing wrong with football :P

ARGH. This kernel doesn't have cgroups support.

KGIII

The Texans are doing good on this drive but they're still down by 3. The Bengals are ahead. 6 to 3.

Serg

3:41 AM

I'm back yo !

KGIII

Texans are in the lead. TD.

Nathan Osman

Lol... my brother is actually listening to that game on the radio.

KGIII

It's been an interesting game, so far. I was expecting the Bengals to do a lot more than they have but Houston has had a good defensive game so far. Texas is ahead, still. :/ (Commercial break.)

KGIII

4:14 AM

It is not looking good for Cincinnati. They're down by four but they've got possession. I think the missus knows the rules more than I do.

Seth

IMO Cincinnati is overrated.

but they'll probably win.

KGIII

If they win then they'll be one of the three teams that remain undefeated. So, there's that. They're just now seeming to come from behind.

Nathan Osman

So far so good with this kernel. It boots now. Can't see the root FS but I'm recompiling with PCI/SCSI support this time around to hopefully fix that.

KGIII

Are you having to compile all of that code @NathanOsman?

Nathan Osman

@KGIII From that repo earlier? No.

I grabbed the source from kernel.org.

KGIII

4:21 AM

Oh, good. LOL That was absurdly large.

Nathan Osman

Ball recovered by the Texans.

KGIII

It's going to go to review.

I am guessing.

Yup, it is going upstairs.

Seth

Nathan Osman

My brain is slow... I don't get it.

KGIII

Game over. Texas won.

Seth

4:26 AM

@NathanOsman It must not be true because they always complain when they are asked to do something.

Nathan Osman

Ah.

Seth

@KGIII I'm trying not to care about football buuuut.. finally?

KGIII

Yup. The Bengals are no longer undefeated. :-)

Texas just needs to take a knee a couple of times and it is over. I turned it off.

On that note, I am off to sleep for a little while - I hope. If not then I shall be back.

G'night. I'm going AFK for a bit.

Nathan Osman

Goodnight.

Seth

night!

Nathan Osman

4:30 AM

VFS: Cannot open root device "sda2" or unknown-block(8,2): error -19
Please append a correct "root=" boot option; here are the available partitions:
0100            4096 ram0  (driver?)
...
0800         4224000 sda  driver: sd
  0801           57344 sda1 ba2edfb9-01
  0802         4162560 sda2 ba2edfb9-02
1f00           65536 mtdblock0  (driver?)
Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(8,2)

B-b-b-but it clearly exists!

Serg

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A: Will the new Ubuntu finally have a menu that is workable?

Frankly, I do not understand why would Ubuntu need to cater to the Windows users needs. You don't see Apple doing that, do you ? Windows and Ubuntu are different systems, hence will have different behavior and different organization. I understand people may be spoiled beings, but when you switch ...

Freaking windows n00bs, coming and criticising my Ubuntu ! Take your start menu BS somewhere else !

Unity dash WERKS ! it's imperfect but it werks so much better than Windows 8. It's a torment every time I have to work on my friend's Windows 8 laptop

There . . . now that I've let some steam out . . . .I need cookies and tea

Nathan Osman

I probably needed to compile in ATA support.

Neil

@Serg Windows Noobs

KGIII

Heh... I left a comment while the missus grabs a shower. ;-)

Serg

@Neil yup, exactly @KGIII saw that , and I 100% agree with what you said.

KGIII

4:42 AM

"I want something different but I want it to be exactly the same!" sighs

Nathan Osman

Argh. Still doesn't work.

Hrm. This kernel was compiled without support for ext3 or ext4.

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Nathan Osman

I wonder if that could be the problem...

Eureka!

Neil

Whos SmokeDete ?

KGIII

@Serg I just noticed that that user thinks Mac's are based on Linux. :/

Nathan Osman

4:52 AM

@Neil It's a special bot that checks for spam on the website.

It posts a message here when it sees some.

Then we can go and flag it.

Neil

@NathanOsman oh thats handy.

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Q: Ubuntu Studio Top Panel

Is there a way to change the location of the top panel? I want to put it on the botton of the screen (like the old Windows was). Can I do it? How? Greetings & Blessings from Chile! Juan

panel

Nathan Osman

Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! exitcode=0x00000004

CPU: 0 PID: 1 Comm: init Not tainted 4.3.0 #9

Here we go again...

Neil

@NathanOsman What are you trying to to.

Serg

@KGIII Em . . . .Macs are still Unix-like systems, so they're Linux's cousin . . . .To be more historically accurate , Mac's are BSD, Linux is Minix . . .. and I've no idea what Minix is based on

KGIII

Oh, I know. I left them a nice reply.

Mac's are based on NeXTSTEP and BSD, NeXTSTEP is based on Mach.

Minix is based on cloning AT&T's UNIX directly as I recall - it doesn't really have a lineage except to be a POSIX compliant system.

I think Mach might have been an attempt to clone HP UX but I'm not sure.

Nathan Osman

5:07 AM

@Neil Compile a kernel for qemu.

KGIII

And I guess we could probably insert OPENSTEP after NeXTSTEP and say that OS X is based on that, really. :/ That and some BSD kernel layers and some user stuff.

Neil

5:25 AM

@Ravan o/

Ravan

@Neil Hi

Serg

5:37 AM

18K , ladies and gentlemen . . . Only 2k left to hit 20k

Nathan Osman

\o/

(And I have another idea for getting this kernel to boot init!)

Serg

@NathanOsman How's qemu different from virtualbox by the way ?

A.B.

Morning all! :)

@Serg well done my friend

Nathan Osman

@Serg IIRC, VirtualBox is partly based on qemu. However, VirtualBox provides a nice interface for managing machines - qemu does not. And VirtualBox doesn't emulate CPU architectures, it only virtualizes them.

Therefore, you can't run ARM VMs in VirtualBox.

But you can with qemu.

Serg

@A.B. morning and thanks ! ^_^

A.B.

5:42 AM

Isn't emulate=hardware and simulate=software @NathanOsman

Serg

@NathanOsman I see, so qemu is better if you need to deal with lower-level , hardware level stuff

Nathan Osman

VirtualBox has optimized some of the virtualization code for x86/x86_64 though so things tend to run faster there.

@A.B. Something like that.

A.B.

Morning @Neil @Ravan

Ravan

morning =)

I am very late today :(

Heavy rains here

No power from morning

Serg

@Ravan good morning ! It's 10:49 pm here, and snowing

A.B.

5:49 AM

Snow?

Ravan

then, Evening =) @Serg

here 11:20AM

:)

A.B.

Meh. Already answered askubuntu.com/q/699007/367165

6:50am

Serg

@A.B. Yup ^_^ Me and hemayl posted at the same time

A.B.

All upgoated :)

@Serg and the xterm thing is also good answered

Serg

@A.B. Thanks . . . I feel like there has to be another way, a 3rd way . . . I just cannot think of one

A.B.

5:56 AM

Sure, you could say terminal=false and run xterm via exec and -c

Oh. Murus comment, I see.

I hate swipe keyboards in chat

Serg

you on mobile ?

A.B.

Yes

And I should read before talking. You've used xterm in your answer :\

@Serg you mean, there is a third way?

Serg

Hehe, I know how it is. My Blu 4.0 has smaller screen than what I'm used to, so I constantly make mistakes. Cannot wait till I finally find a nano-sim card for my new Oneplus Two . . .

Yes, I think there should be a third way . . . but I cannot think of one . . .

A.B.

I also have to buy a new one. Again a Google thing?

Currently I have a Nexus 4

With CM 12.1

Serg

@A.B. Oneplus Two is chinese actually, I was going to buy Meizu , because . . . Ubuntu phone is also Meizu and they look stylish . . .but my friend had a special offer on Oneplus Two, so I was like . . sure , I'll get it

A.B.

6:02 AM

:)

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A.B.

@Serg have you seen this? askubuntu.com/q/698859/367165 sounds like another 32-bit answer. But not funny.

Like, the door is closed, let me in.

Serg

Yeah, I've seen it.Best thing I'd suggest to OP is contact amazon and ask them to log in to the server locally

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A.B.

@Serg right. Amazon would be happy :)

What's about a serial console?

Serg

6:14 AM

@A.B. serial console ? Isn't that the same ? They'd need to come over to the server racks and connect to the server, right ?

A.B.

I have no idea. I had a root server and after disabling the network, I could use a serial console. @Serg

Serg

Light just flickered in my room , second time today . . . oO

here is in India

@A.B. Hello

@Neil o/ :)

6:22 AM

3rd flicker, and 4th

scarry

Ravan

OMG

my state is also listed, o_O

Neil

@Ravan listed

Ravan

"the vulnerable areas in the country are Maharashtra, Andhra Pradesh, Telangana"

@Serg If it is poosible to create bootable usb using dd Is there any more advantage of using other GUI applications?

like Unet, WinUsb

Serg

@Ravan well, it's more convenient. That's all I can think of . . .

A.B.

@SmokeDetector askubuntu.com/q/699026/367165

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6:34 AM

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Byte Commander

o/

Ravan

\o/

A.B.

Morning @ByteCommander :)

Byte Commander

If I could earn 15 more votes on this answer, I could get the second golden REVERSAL badge on AU ever! :-)

A.B.

Already upvoted :\

Ravan

6:45 AM

VTC [askubuntu.com/questions/698793/…

Byte Commander

Nah, thanks anyway. I don't have high expectations, but it could be possible. The Q already has the necessary -5, now I just need +20...

edward torvalds

what could be the reason why many of my applications are going unresponsive all of sudden?

A.B.

@ByteCommander I'm hunting the legendary badge.

Byte Commander

@A.B. :O

You would be the first one earning that.

Serg

What badge ?

Byte Commander

6:53 AM

In only 10 months!

Nathan Osman

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Q: Why can't the kernel run init?

I've downloaded the Raspbian image on this page. I'm trying to compile a kernel that can be used to boot the image within qemu. I downloaded the Linux kernel source from kernel.org and ran: make versatile_defconfig make menuconfig I then added the following features to the kernel: PCI suppo...