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Takkat

18:01

@user320 do you have issues now?

user320

yep, Kernal Panic

Takkat

ouch.

user320

yeah

Takkat

Did it remove any packages before installing cinnamon and nemo?

user320

nope, just ran those commands like the instructions said

so, any ideas on how to undo that mess ^

Takkat

18:04

It usually says soandso many ... packages to install ... soandso many packages to delete or something like that.

If it removed standard packages we may have to reinstall these. Otherwise just purge cinnamon and nemo again.

user320

I am a noob. What commands should I run to fix this?

This would be the 5th time I have to reinstall Ubuntu

Takkat

sudo apt-get purge cinnamon nemo will remove those packages. But watch out for other dependencies it may also want to remove.

Or try with ppa-purge - this will also remove the ppa and reset to defaults.

sudo ppa-purge ppa:gwendal-lebihan-dev/cinnamon-stable

user320

for the last command I get an error sudo: ppa-purge: command not found

Takkat

sudo apt-get install ppa-purge

its not installed by default.

user320

yep, thanks

Takkat

18:13

A noob matures to an Ubuntero by fixing his mistakes.

user320

So I am going to try the last command first

Takkat

No guarantee it will work, as still other packages may have been removed. I have absolutely no experience with dependencies of Cinnamon.

But I like Wrigleys Cinnamon

user320

cinnamon is bad

its unstable

Would the last command be enough or should I also run the others?

Takkat

Dunno really. It should remove everything you had installed, but I cant tell because I never tried it out.

user320

well I am gonna restart brb

Takkat

18:17

But you can still purge an application after the ppa it came from was removed.

user320

18:32

I think it worked, never ever go anywhere near cinnamon

Takkat

Some prefer it to Nautilus. But its a matter of personal taste I guess.

you should blame the ppa rather than Cinnamon. Installing from ppa always is more or less risky.

user320

18:55

Cinnamon is also a DE

its the default for mint

Takkat

there also seem to be people who prefer Mint.

user320

its all good in its own right.

Takkat

<-- loves variety and choice

user320

but stability is always on top of the list

Braiam

19:11

@Takkat did you read my message some days ago?

Rinzwind

Some people should be forced to stay on windows :P

Braiam

@Rinzwind don't be that cruel... :/

Takkat

@Braiam yeah I was busy then... I don't think mouse-wheel and mouse are really synonyms. They may adress very different issues - with similar solutions though ;)

Braiam

wait, what problem that has to do something about the mouse whell don't have to do with the mouse itself :P

Takkat

@Rinzwind If Windows was the same it was then it would not be worse today.

Braiam

19:14

also, 16 out 29 questions has already the mouse tag... :/

Takkat

@Braiam it can mean e.g. mouse-wheel emulation on a keyboard or touchpad e.g.

Rinzwind

trackballs have a mousewheel and are not a mouse >:-D

Takkat

I like to have a lot of tags (but only if they make any sense)

Braiam

@Rinzwind who knows the difference between a trackball and a mouse :P I had a friend that he had a "mouse" that actually was a trackball... but he didn't knew the name

@Takkat yeah, but in this specific case... all of them are talking about mouse

Rinzwind

I do! You do! So that makes 2.

Braiam

19:17

@Rinzwind you want to impose the minority to the majority??? it what millennia you live?

:P

no seriously @Takkat check the questions ;)

Rinzwind

@Braiam I live in a world where all need to do what I want them to :+

Mateo

some might be talking about the scroll-wheel mistakenly?

Takkat

@Braiam I didn't check the question but if they are not related to the wheel we may retag them. We cann discuss mouse-scroll as a synonym for mouse-wheel however.

Mateo

and scrolling

Takkat

@Mateo this tag could still be created ;)

Mateo

19:23

which has wiki: Issues with scrollbars, mouse scrollwheels, and touchpad gestures used for scrolling

Takkat

it may be only me but I still don't get what is bad about having many tags. They are relevant for Google searches.

All questions should be tagged to burst with all tags available (except version tags).

Braiam

@Mateo there is the scrolling tag already

Mateo

I first had "scroll"

Seth

@Takkat about this askubuntu.com/a/358665/44179

Doesn't ppa-purge automatically remove installed packages from that PPA?

I.E. this step sudo apt-get purge cinnamon nemo isn't needed?

Takkat

It should but honestly I havent tried it. It may have not purged in this case - we had a discussion above.

Braiam

19:29

I think that ppa-purge don't remove the package if they available in the repos and just downgrade them

Takkat

Could it be that it is because there is also a cinnamon package in our repos?

jinx @Braiam ;)

Seth

@Takkat Is there? :O

@Braiam That might be it.

Got this from the man:

       This script provides a bash shell script capable of automatically down‐
       grading all packages in a given PPA back to the ubuntu versions.

       You  have  to  run it using root privileges because of the package man‐
       ager.

Braiam

 apt-cache search cinnamon
cinnamon - Innovative and comfortable desktop
cinnamon-common - Innovative and comfortable desktop (Common data files)

@Seth I didn't even read the man... I swear!

Takkat

packages.ubuntu.com/cinnamon from raring+

Seth

Interesting.

Mateo

19:32

hm, fogger dosn't work with right click spell check...

Braiam

@Mateo yeah... we noticed.... :P

Mateo

It is quite a nice program, do you know of any starting docs on programing with the api for it to add notifications?

Braiam

libnofify?

Mateo

I think they built a lot into the program just to be used in scripts, some kind of javascript api? anyway, got to the point of being over my head

►

that demo looks cool

oh, he is hosting it on the net. owaislone.org/docs/fogger

now maybe I can hack something together!

Nathan Osman

Hi everyone.

Don't forget about the big game today.

user320

19:48

And what would the be ^

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Q: Script to delete text files

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0

Q: How to check whether certain port is opened or block on any other servers from a dev box?

I am trying to connect to one of our staging Cassandra servers on port 9042 and 9160 here in our company from a dev box.. Through the code, I am not able to connect to it... The program gets hanged at my SELECT query.. So I am wondering is there any way to figure out from my dev box whether thes...

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Nathan Osman

12

Q: Anyone interested in a regularly scheduled, multiplayer game of 0 A.D.?

First Game Scheduled for Oct. 13, 2013 at 5PM EDT [click to view in other timezones] I am pleased to announce that we will be having our first game this weekend. The game will start at the time scheduled above, so be sure to show up early to make sure you get to play. We will be...

discussion community fun

user320

starts in 1 hour?

Nathan Osman

Correct.

user320

Is the latest version avaiable through the software center?

Nathan Osman

19:59

I don't think so but let me check.

Mateo

backports?

Nathan Osman

Nope - you'll need this PPA:

ppa:wfg/0ad

user320

Is that the command I need to run to get the neweset version?

Mateo

nope

Nathan Osman

Nope - here are the commands:

sudo apt-add-repository ppa:wfg/0ad
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install 0ad

:11660818 You beat me to it :)

Mateo

20:03

hmmmm

user320

brb

Mateo

it there an echo in here?

Nathan Osman

:P

user320

Will this run smooth?

i7 2700k @ 3.4gh up to 4.2GHz,---Nvidia gtx 580 1.5gb vram,----12gb RAM?

Mateo

woah, probally

user320

20:06

its not that good

Mateo

not as good as mine :(

user320

whats yours?

Nathan Osman

That will be fine.

Mateo

Intel® Core™2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz × 4

Nathan Osman

I can run 0 A.D. on a five-year-old Core 2 Duo @ 1.6 GHz with 3 GB of RAM.

My main machine is a quad-core AMD A8 @ 3.6 GHz with 8 GB of RAM.

user320

20:10

what grpahic settings and whatt fps

Nathan Osman

...and that one has integrated video.

user320

for your bad one

Nathan Osman

The old one had a 256 MB Nvidia GeForce.

user320

my lpatop has core 2 dou @ 2.2ghz, nvidia gt240m 1 gb, 4 gb ram

Nathan Osman

My new one has an integrated AMD Radeon GPU.

@user320 That will work just fine.

Mateo

20:14

4G ram, and a 1G Radeon 4thoundsand something (Cedar [Radeon HD 5000/6000/7350/8350 Series]
)

user320

How do I minimize the game?, it overrun all of my commands for that.

Nathan Osman

Alt+Enter will switch to windowed mode.

user320

pbrd.co/1fvef9h

can anyone beat that? ;)

Nathan Osman

I have two monitors as well :)

One is 23" widescreen and the other is 17" 4:3.

Mateo

I have a PPC setting next to me... but no way to extend to that.

user320

20:21

I have no idea how to play this game btw

but i got 40 min to learn

Nathan Osman

You'll have fun learning.

Mateo

it looks exactly like another game I used to play a while back, at first look ;)

user320

runs smooth on my laptop

right now I have 20 people hitting one big rock

Mateo

trees for buildings, food for people, houses for more people, that kind of thing right?

Nathan Osman

Right.

But on a much larger scale.

user320

20:29

btw will we play against each other?

Mateo

the all of a sudden we will be making pyramids and launching rocks at each other?

Nathan Osman

There are eight teams split into two factions.

So four players on each side.

@Mateo Cannons and catapults!

Mateo

how far up the time scale does it go?

Nathan Osman

Actually, we won't have cannons.

user320

my exelent leader ship skills pbrd.co/1fvfNAe

Nathan Osman

20:31

Gunpowder wasn't discovered yet.

@Mateo It all takes place at... 0 A.D. :)

Mateo

ah, makes sense

user320

If I kill the sheep and chicken will new ones spawn in?

Nathan Osman

No, but you can build a farm to make more.

user320

what do i click on to build new stuff

Nathan Osman

A worker.

Mateo

20:37

make a person build, lower right corner

Nathan Osman

There will be a list of things they can build on the right.

Mateo

one of the ones without weapons

Nathan Osman

Once you're done practising, the game lobby is up if you want to connect.

user320

Hmm will you guys kill me

Nathan Osman

Not if you join our side :)

user320

20:45

How do i do that?

Nathan Osman

Join soon and you'll be assigned to our side.

John

Hello!

There space for a total newb?

user320

yes

Nathan Osman

Sure!

John

:D

user320

20:49

1 more on our team

home.quickmediasolutions.com

that the ip to connect to ^

Nathan Osman

Yes.

Radu Rădeanu

askubuntu.com/users/99886/tomkat?tab=reputation

Serial upvoting?

Lucio

Hi!

user320

Hello

0AD?

Nathan Osman

@Lucio Last call for 0 A.D.

We are starting in a moment.

Interested?

user320

21:00

we got 5/8 people

Lucio

thanks but no :)

Nathan Osman

Okay, no problem.

user320

^ :(

Lucio

Do I have to install something?

user320

yeah

Lucio

21:01

Or is a web browser game?

Nathan Osman

Yes, 0 A.D.

Lucio

oh

user320

1.2 gb i think

Lucio

lol

user320

sudo apt-add-repository ppa:wfg/0ad
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install 0ad

Lucio

21:01

What internet connection MIN speed?

user320

that how you install it

Nathan Osman

It's too late now.

Lucio

yep

Does somebody knows how to run a command from terminal using Tor?

Seth

21:13

Oh, is the game going on?

@NathanOsman still around or no?

I guess no

Braiam

@Lucio what?

Lucio

I want to run a command line tool

Seth

@RaduRădeanu Looks like it. The system should auto correct it soon.

Braiam

aha?

Lucio

But with privacy

Using the power of Tor :)

Braiam

21:28

can anyone reply to this comment I'm a little edgy :/

@Lucio you want a ssh session over tor?

Lucio

That is not specially my case

torify <command>

I found it :)

@Braiam thanks anyway!

@Braiam I flag as dupe

user320

my game just chrashed guys

Nathan Osman

Start it again.

I think you can reconnect.

John

I hope so

user320

let me go to my desktop this time

Seth

21:37

Still room for one more?

user320

my laptop is starting to melt

@seth yes

Nathan Osman

@Seth: Afraid not.

user320

kick one of the ai

Nathan Osman

I don't think you can join a game in progress.

Seth

OK then

Nathan Osman

21:38

I would if I could.

user320

can't reconnect

Nathan Osman

What happens if you try?

user320

GAME has already started.

its okay I will play sinegle player

Nathan Osman

Sorry about that.

user320

its fine, not your fault

Nathan Osman

22:05

That was... weird.

John

Er...

Nathan Osman

Mine just froze and ended.

John

Same

Mateo

aw

John

Right after yours

Nathan Osman

22:05

Sorry, everyone.

Maybe this wasn't such a good idea.

John

Not your fault

Mateo

the server went down

it was fun

Nathan Osman

Maybe what we really need is a dedicated server :P

John

Actually....

Gaming.SE has one

We don't use it much, these days, as far as I know

Nathan Osman

Might be worth bringing up.

John

22:06

I believe @MarcoCeppi set it up, and can still make users.

Is there a bug in 0 A.D with allied LoS?

At one hour in, (10 minutes ago), they looked about like this:

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Q: Why does a manual mount set different file ownership?

I've been using the terminal for almost everything: in fact, I often don't even log in through the interface, I use the tty1 and go to the web with text-browsers. So, the external drive doesn't auto-mount, and I use sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/JMCF125_DE to mount it. It works, but listing shows the...

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John

Nathan Osman

That was me.

John

That was actually what you looked like?

Braiam

nice, like AoE

Nathan Osman

22:09

Nope, so must have been a bug.

John

That's what I thought

It worried me, because I couldn't tell what y'all were doing

Or how far behind I was :3

Mateo

I had a base going up in the right, was going to be good

John

I was trading with you until my ships mysteriously started sinking

Mateo

the whales might have been attacking? I kept throwing spears at them.

Nathan Osman

I was being attacked by my brother :(

John

22:11

:3

So, are there still people in the game?

Were those end-game stats correct? >.>

Nathan Osman

Yes, that was the end of the game, sadly.

The stats were correct.

Mateo

anyone have a pic?

Nathan Osman

Afraid not.

Mateo

I saw Nathan at the top

John

No, didn't think about it

user320

22:12

I could host next time

I got SSD!!!

John

Mine showed me ahead by >1000 points, which I thought had to be a bug >.>

Nathan Osman

@user320 Me too - what I really don't have is a fast Internet connection.

It's reliable... but not fast.

John

I noticed substantial stuttering

Nathan Osman

Could be related.

user320

where do you live?

what continent

what planet

Seth

22:33

@John How did you get 0 A.D. in windows mode?

Nathan Osman

Alt+Enter.

John

Actually I didn't do anything, it did it itself

Seth

Ahh. Great. I don't like fullscreen much.

John

Which made navigation annoying, but wasd worked

Seth

Ah that's funny.

Mateo

22:35

click on the map where you want focus

user320

Note to self: if ur gonna have multi screne make it an odd number

John

@Mateo I did that too, but forgetting and trying to scroll was annoying

user320

how do i have an entrance in a wood wall?

Nathan Osman

I think click on it and then build a door.

user320

can the enemy open it? like I can?

Braiam

22:49

mmm... why 0ad ask for tex libraries... mmm

aptitude why 0ad tex-common
[sudo] password for braiam:
p   0ad             Depends 0ad-data-common (<= 0.0.13-1)
p   0ad-data-common Depends tex-gyre
p   tex-gyre        Depends tex-common (>= 3)

user320

I do not think that this game is multi threaded

Nathan Osman

It's not.

user320

ugh, that sucks massive

is it in the plans?

Nathan Osman

No idea.

user320

are there any commercial games like this for ubuntu

Nathan Osman

23:09

Probably.

Mateo

23:24

what the:

3

Nathan Osman

It must have really won some awards.

Mateo

nothing like gaming the system

Braiam

@Mateo BOO, red star, only available in appstore :(

Mateo

yeah... it is like putting a ad in there with a "not for sale" sign

user320

whats the point of marketing your product if you are going to sell it

Mateo

23:39

hm, it is kind of funny seeing browser games linked in the software center...

Seth

23:58

@John I have a lot of stuttering if there's any substantial amount of water on the map.

JohnMerlino

I'm really impressed by LibreOffice. I use it on Ubuntu and I have a 900 page document and it's very responsive. Compare that to open office on a mac, which always freezes and hangs especially during auto save.

Seth

I bet. Office isn't necessarily... fast.

I never do much word processing though.

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