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jrg
12:00 AM
Until Ruby and Python came along, Perl was the defacto sysadminny scripting language, for those times when bash was just too simple.
 
Right - I used it for my load-monitoring script that displayed resource usage in an AppIndicator.
It definitely wins hands down for text processing.
Ease of use... not so much.
 
jrg
yup.
 
12:20 AM
Stupid Mingw-w32 - keeps getting stuck on the linking stage.
 
12:46 AM
I love how Qt Creator integrates with Bazaar.
Just one more thing to make it awesome I guess.
 
 
2 hours later…
2:32 AM
@jrg I think the point was more SO should be everything non-OS and SU should be everything OS, but yes it was essentially that way as far as my interpretation
 
Bounty offered: Why is my background image always disappearing when I log in? http://askubuntu.com/questions/139959/why-is-my-background-image-always-disappearing-when-i-log-in?atw=1 #background
 
2:47 AM
I just accidentally tripped and my hand reached out to grab something - which happened to be the power button on the remote for my PC :P
Thankfully the power button is set to put the computer to sleep.
(Although I thought I had it set to hibernate, but anyway.)
 
@GeorgeEdison I think hibernate was removed from 12.04 actually...
 
I'm in Windows at the moment.
 
(Sorry, I probably should have mentioned that somewhere.)
 
@GeorgeEdison I suppose it's better than tripping over the power cable
 
2:55 AM
That's the one (and only one) advantage that Macs have.
 
I don't follow...they have flat power cables like old console cables or something?
 
I'd appreciate other eyes here, in case I'm misunderstanding something: askubuntu.com/questions/142611/…
 
@lazyPower That was not my decision.
 
Roland is insisting that you cannot sell computers with Ubuntu pre-installed without paying some fee to Canonical.
As I understand it, the only issue is trademarks... if you insist on marketing your computers by using the Ubuntu trademark, you need to get Canonical's permission.
 
@aking1012 No, they have magnetic power adapters.
If you yank on the cable, it just pops off.
 
3:01 AM
@GeorgeEdison okay that makes sense
 
@GeorgeEdison it's also a babe magnet. Don't forget that.
 
@ChanHoSuh That is my understanding. The more ethical concern part of the thing is that you shouldn't be touting 'Ubuntu Inside' without permission (it would be seen as endorsement). I don't see how for a small shop selling the bare metal and providing the service of installing Ubuntu is in any way in violation of any of those terms.
but IANAL
 
@ChanHoSuh Wow... I seriously have never heard that expression before and Googled it... and wished I didn't :P
 
I imagine everyone typing their legal thoughts onto the great Internetz as wearing a shirt proclaiming in big, bold letters: IANAL.
 
Random rant of the day:
> WHY DID THE AUTHORS OF THE GPL DOUBLE-SPACE THE TEXT???!?!
 
3:05 AM
@GeorgeEdison you mean me or aking1012?
 
@ChanHoSuh About what?
 
I think it was a headspace and timing thing on not seeing your GPL comment before hitting enter
 
Oh. Scratches head.
 
the expression you wish you hadn't Googled... :-) Did you really Google "babe magnet"?
 
3:07 AM
I wondered if you googled "IANAL".
 
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No, I know what that expands to.
 
Lol.
 
I don't have to Google to know that I am not a lawyer.
 
Hm, the Google search wasn't that bad.
 
3:10 AM
Just in case you don't know how to get to Google.
:)
 
It'd be funny if it weren't so true...
 
@GeorgeEdison You mean linespacing? If so, sometimes legal documents are double-spaced so that changes can be penned in and initialed without re-printing the whole document. Perhaps slightly outdated for the GPL (who uses printed GPLs?) but....
 
You know what one of the most popular searches on AOL was? Google
 
Sorry for cluttering up the room, guys.
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3:11 AM
@GeorgeEdison There was a joke at a conference where someone said, so you open Bing and search for Google. Follow the first link, and then...
 
@aking1012 Ah.
 
Why the first link?
Can you be so certain Bing will find Google so easily?
 
It was a joke, but it tends to hold
 
Seems legit.
 
Even Google's first response for yahoo finance is actually yahoo finance. I would think that not pinning something like that in your engine would belie a weakness in the engine
 
3:15 AM
@UbuntuQuestionsonUL Who did that?
 
@jokerdino Maybe he truly does regret disturbing us.
 
It is funny though.
 
I seem to remember google be sued sometime in the last to years for antics with searches for Google Chrome. It wasn't the actual results, but that they but a sponsored link to it (like the normal sponsored links displayed first) above the results.
 
How could they be sued over that?
 
Unfair competition apparently. Sounds bogus to me, but I think they settled rather than fight it.
 
3:18 AM
 
I'm not surprised they would be sued over that.... I think large companies are constantly getting sued.
 
I think someone paid for a funny search term. See the image
If you just enter trial, it doesn't return the second one
 
When I use Firefox and search Google, I've had stuff asking me to try Google Chrome appear. I do find it annoying and kinda contrary to the image they've built up in the earlier years of the company.
 
@ChanHoSuh Doesn't happen for me, but I see how you could find it more than a little irritating
 
It's not a popup, but some kind of button toward the side, I think.
 
3:22 AM
It's an ad from Google.
 
Ah, if I google browser I see it. I think it's related to the using G+ +1 metrics in search result/ad rankings(which they were def sued over)
 
It's not an ad exactly... I think you might need to be signed into your Google account.
 
I am...
 
I took a screenshot... I went to the google homepage using Firefox while logged into Google. Hadn't searched for anything.
 
Oh, well that might have something to do with it. I can agree with that approach since you haven't searched yet. If they were tainting search results that would be different, but saying you can't tout your product on your product page seems silly
 
3:25 AM
I do get that here. o.O
But, I do consider it an ad... oh well
you can click on that x button. It goes off
 
Well, I don't find anything wrong with that approach, but I do feel like their sensibilities have altered.
 
Sounds like a job for greasemonkey
 
They're being more aggressive nowadays. Perhaps sensing a possible demise.
 
I doubt that last bit, but I take your point
 
I think it sets a cookie or something to remember you checked the 'x'. It usually doesn't appear. I must have reset something in Firefox.
 
3:27 AM
I could use some help over here - superuser.com/q/428591/104400
i am not understanding the OP's comment.
 
I doubt it too, but I don't think Google does. Any company that doesn't fear losing their place on the top is liable to run into a nasty surprise or two on their way down.
 
@jokerdino he's saying he doesn't have dash to search in gnome-classic
@ChanHoSuh Valid point. Letting fear dictate your actions is another sure way for downfall in what I think was a visionary company though. If all you worry about is consequences, then there's no more vision
 
@aking1012 I don't think that is the case but I don't know what he means either.
 
It's a case of the OP not knowing exactly what to say, so they say something that's not really relevant to a solution. Just my opinion.
 
Hmm I see where you are getting.
 
3:35 AM
Is that a Unity screenshot, @jokerdino?
 
@jokerdino I agree, I think the OP for somereason thinks that gnome should automatically remap the keyboard shortcut when the alternative is changed, and want your help fixing this "bug"
 
Do you know where that's stored in dconf-editor? That would make the whole thing a moot point
 
@ChanHoSuh Most probably. I use oxygen on KDE and adwaita on gnome-shell. ambiance on Unity, etc.
@adempewolff oh, i need to go hunting for it then.
 
I think the OP thinks what @adempewolff just said, and for some reason doing what he did with update-alternatives works in some other DE but not Gnome classic.
 
ah, gnome classic. I don't use that.
 
3:37 AM
Probably right in that some DE probably uses ctl-alt-t to mean xterm from update-alternatives and classic has it mapped to gnome-terminal
 
I guess it would make sense if not for the fact that there are all these conflicting ways to set defaults.
 
i don't think i can help anymore. if one of you eventually manage to find that, please do help him out. thanks.
mainly because I don't want to log out and log in to look for the fix.
 
every time i read the question it starts to read a little more like a complaint (any time i hear "works in X not in Y" i start feeling that way), so i'm going to let that one go too
 
We should construct the most annoying question ever.
I already know it would have "but works in Windows" in it
 
the windows spread perhaps. clicking on the icon should minimize it !!!!!1111
 
3:45 AM
lol, I forget who brought that up
 
Mahesh :-)
and a million others.
 
so ok, here's a start, just describe some strange workflow that's not gonna make sense to anyone
 
@ChanHoSuh you'ld have to touch on hybrid graphics, hibernate, hdmi audio with open drivers on AMD/ATI, works on windows, and works in some non-unity DE...maybe toss in a little processor utilization and GPU overheating. then somehow find a way to make it not a bug
 
something about minimizing windows... and then end it with "like in Windows"
 
do mention how Ubuntu is too mainstream and orange.
and hint on moving over to Arch and never looking back on Unity.
you can also mention about Mark climbing Mt Everest.
 
3:48 AM
@jokerdino /me is kind of against Unity in general for the hardware demands, but I see what they're trying to do. I'm getting less vocal on it
 
@aking1012 I have started to use other DE as well. To get a better idea of everything.
hi @RolandTaylor
 
I like it, @aking, except that once you start bringing in hardware like that, it will scare people off
yes, bring up the orange, end with like 3 more questions, one of which is "And why is there orange everywhere?? It's ugly!!"
 
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A: Can I legally build and sell desktops with Ubuntu pre-installed?

Jacob Johan EdwardsIt depends. Ubuntu is free software (beyond some redistributable binary blobs), but if you're using it for commercial purposes there are trademark restrictions. The Legal Fine Print Permission from us is necessary to use any of the Trademarks under any circumstances other than those specific...

@jokerdino hi!
I'm only on for a short time
Trying to deal with this issue of the trademark/selling/marketing confusion - causing me no end of stress.
 
@ChanHoSuh I like the idea, but I think -- for me -- linux was about "will run on anything". Ubuntu took this and ran with it making it easy. Then once it had a large component of market share did the Unity thing(crushing old computers). Still, I take your point.
 
@RolandTaylor You can sell Ubuntu as a product. But if you are going to manufacture devices with it, you should be consulting Canonical.
I have seen people selling Ubuntu CD, etc
 
3:54 AM
@RolandTaylor I just vtc the other one as dupe. If it needs to be addressed, I think it should be done on this one
 
@jokerdino it's rather confusing if you ask me - because why do we need to "consult" Canonical if all we are doing is installing Ubuntu on prebuilt computers (from like say Clevo or something) and charging for the computer and the service of setting it up?
 
@RolandTaylor because Canonical owns Ubuntu trademark?
 
Because you do know that "consulting" Canonical means shelling out money that we don't have right?
IMHO it's a pile of crap.
 
@RolandTaylor consulting as in, ask them how you should go about doing it. None of us really know because we are not into it.
 
If a small business owner is going to provide a service and be transparent, but can't afford to pay for some fandangle agreement - I think this is a case of suffocation of the small business owner.
 
3:57 AM
Are we really talking about making a CentOS respin of Ubuntu or what? <-- I hope that makes sense to ANYONE other than me
 
i don't know. i'll let it pass.
 
In any case - I need to get some rest on this issue - so I'm going back offline.
 
@aking1012 he wants to put Ubuntu in desktops and make money out of it.
you know. like the Dell Sputnik project. etc.
 
Roland, that's the question/answer I pointed you toward. Do you have questions about it?
 
@jokerdino I was referring to the removal of the branding to make the whole thing a moot point
 
3:59 AM
@aking1012 hmm that has both advantages and disadvantages. I can only see the lack of that brand value will affect pretty strongly.
it's a tricky issue and luckily, i have no interest in selling Ubuntu desktops.
 
I always thought it was funny Chrome and Chromium were so similarly named.
 
Also allows the rise of another brand...like just works linux
 
i am more than happy to distribute Ubuntu cd's for free if anyone's interested in using it.
 
Me too, but you come back to the installation service...which is just a sneaky way to try and get around the endorsement requirement
 
you'll notice that some of the "OEM"s here help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuPre-installed are pretty small scale
 
4:01 AM
Typically to protect your trademark, you have to be pretty aggressive about it... so I wonder why Google went with "Chromium" for their open source version name.
 
So that they didn't get called iceweasel
 
hehe
 
@adempewolff that's a valid point
 
Oh, sorry, are we discussing now the value of branding Linux?
 
well, i note that i no longer am interested in trashtalking anyone. be it Ubuntu, canonical, gnome, debian. et al
 
4:05 AM
Microsoft?
 
@ChanHoSuh I think we're discussing the value of de-branding linux
 
@ChanHoSuh except for may be MS, apple, oracle and sun.
and other patent trolls.
 
SCO <--
 
But you see, jokerdino, and I've said this before, nowadays Microsoft is like the grumpy, formerly villainous, old man living down the street from you. In the late 90s, Microsoft really was seen as the evil empire.
ah, SCO, whatever did happen with that
 
no idea...i stopped paying attention
 
4:08 AM
@jokerdino, speaking of trashtalking Debian (or Ubuntu?), let me show you something I showed aking earlier
 
that site is blocked here.
 
lol i c
 
Your request was denied because of its content categorization: "Adult/Mature Content;Reference"
but I do know what is written down there.
 
@ChanHoSuh I found that to be hilarious, but there is value in simplicity of configuration and having to tweak
 
speak of censorship.
 
4:10 AM
@aking1012 yes definitely, and occasionally I feel pangs of temptation toward installing Arch
 
I can't make a decision between Arch and Gentoo for my VM. Gentoo seems to support more architectures
I like freebsd, but the lack of opencl support is painful
 
@jokerdino Does Singapore just use DNS filtering or IP and packet filtering too?
 
@adempewolff it's not the country. just my school network.
but, i don't know what the school does. they block every other port other than http and https
 
how do I post images in chat?
 
click on the upload button or just post the image url if it is elsewhere on the internet
 
4:22 AM
 
@jokerdino try these settings to use Google DNS
they might get you around the filtering if it is just DNS filtering
few countries are crazy enough to spend as much money as China implementing a more comprehensive filtering regime
so they just use simple DNS filtering
 
@adempewolff where is that setting hiding? can't seem to find in KDE
 
very meta, aking
 
i already answered one of his questions on meta
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Q: How do I invite a low rep user into chat?

aking1012It comes up in chat sometimes, so I figured I'ld post a question and answer on the thing.

 
@jokerdino I've never used KDE, but edit your network connections and look for a place where you can change your IPv4 settings from "Automatic (DCHP)" to "Automatic (DCHP) addresses only" and then the "DNS Servers:" field should pop up
@aking1012 hehe, thanks. I'm kind of hopeless when it comes to chat. I had already entered text so the upload box was greyed out, didn't realize you couldn't upload an image with text already in the box...
 
4:28 AM
ah, such a pain, I'm trying to rescue data from a dying external
 
@adempewolff seem to have found it. so, what do i put in there?
 
@adempewolff that would be a nice feature, but it's not supported at the moment
 
the google DNS servers, 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4
@aking1012 understandably, it would would require adding an extra field into the database
 
@adempewolff funnily, i can't enter the dot
 
@adempewolff it's funny that they use 8.8.x.x instead of 4.4.x.x as google being double the standard govt servers ;)
@adempewolff extra field, maybe not. they support markdown on the site. it's possible to support markdown in chat. it's just not implemented
 
4:31 AM
@jokerdino are you sure? that field is for IP addresses exclusively (well maybe "localhost" in some cases) so it should certainly except dots.
 
ah, i have been diggin in ipv6//
ah, it seems to be still blocked.
 
@jokerdino The block is likely IP-based.
So changing DNS servers probably isn't going to do anything.
 
yeah, it really didn't
 
You'll need to either use a proxy or tunnel through SSH over port 80.
Or the HTTPS port (443 IIRC).
 
yes
 
4:35 AM
@GeorgeEdison it was way too complicated. i tried it but gave up.
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Q: Is it possible to SSH through port 80?

jokerdinoI am behind a network firewall that doesn't let me ssh through the default port. Because of that, I can't push any bzr branches to my repository. I would like to know if it is possible to somehow proxy the ssh through port 80 so I can push the branches. I heard that corkscrew lets you do that bu...

 
You're safe using port 443 - since a smart firewall will know that data traveling over port 443 is encrypted.
 
You could try proxychains
 
Tor network FTW.
 
I've never found Tor practical
 
@adempewolff The US Navy thinks it is
 
4:40 AM
I could just use whatever I am using. It lets me do most of the things.
and in the unlikely case that I am caught bypassing the filter, who knows what would happen to me.
 
In China, it's incredible slow (almost all of the public relays are IP blocked), and I feel guilty using it for watching youtube videos, etc. when some people need to bandwidth for documenting human rights abuses etc.
 
In your case I find your perspective to be valid
 
I do think I might need to upgrade my current solution (classic socks5 ssh tunnel) soon, as it looks like some Chinese ISPs are starting to use deep packet filtering to scan for and throttle ssh tunnels.
I've been looking at this github.com/brl/obfuscated-openssh
 
5:35 AM
Bounty offered: Is is possible to render ONLY Compiz with Unity3D using llvmpipe? http://askubuntu.com/questions/139167/is-is-possible-to-render-only-compiz-with-unity3d-using-llvmpipe?atw=1 #driver
 
Hello,
 
Hello @Mitch
 
Hi @Mitch - in your profile I think you meant trial basis as opposed to trail basis
 
;-)
 
I did not know that we are taking points off for grammar, spelling mistakes :) . When I do a edit, I do it just to better relay the question. I do most of my ask Ubuntu at work wile doing 50 other things, like in-house support, and phone support, so mistakes are bound to happen :) . Just thought that I put my 2 cents in :)
 
5:41 AM
I don't downvote for that type of thing. I just edit to correct it
 
Same here, but .....
 
no one is taking your reputation points etc. if we usually see grammar/ spelling mistakes, we are just going to rectify it.
 
by the way I fixed trial
:)
 
6:11 AM
brb
 
0
Q: Feature request: linkify Launchpad project links

David PlanellaI've just pasted a link to the code of a Launchpad project to an answer, and I noticed it remained as plain text. It would be nice if Launchpad shortcuts could be linkified automatically to point to the project's URL. E.g. when I write lp:qreator it is recognized as a Launchpad project and gets ...

 
@jokerdino Serverfault mods wouldn't migrate my post, so I just copy-pasted it to Super User... keeping my fingers crossed for some good answers. superuser.com/questions/429570/…
 
6:27 AM
let's hope you do get your answer..
 
 
1 hour later…
7:32 AM
whats the difference b/w Red Hat and Ubuntu?
 
Different company's products.
IIRC One is Debian based and the other is Fedora based.
If you look it up, you should get a million results on this topic.
 
@jokerdino Ya.. I know.. but too many cooks spoil the broth.. and hence I'd be left all the more confused..
But if its just then companies that are different.. then why does Red Hat have so much hype? There are even RHCE courses that have a lot of value..
 
Established presence in the space - been around for a loooooong time
 
Red Hat has been in the business for much longer than Ubuntu
I vaguely recall hearing about Red Hat and GNU when I was in Primary 6.
 
Red Hat is enterprise-oriented
 
7:37 AM
but Red Hat aint free then?
 
That was the first time I knew there was something called Linux.
 
@ChanHoSuh enterprise oriented.. nice way to put it
 
@ShyamK it's main product is not. But it has a community spin off
 
Redhat sponsores the Fedora Project - the community edition of RedHats distributions. RHEL is not free - it contains some in house redhat magic.
 
They sell their binaries to large organizations with $$, that's why the hype you may have heard
 
7:39 AM
@ChanHoSuh guess so
So would you recommend a shift from Ubuntu to Red Hat?
if possible. :D
 
I think it is really a personal preference.
Red Hat has been a strong supporter of open source projects and contributes heavily to upstream / GNOME stuff.
that is my opinion anyway
 
@jokerdino why can't you just say a 'yes' or 'no' ?
 
@ShyamK you shoudl watch Revolution OS - its a fairly dated movie but gives you a solid recourse of the history of the Linux Kernel / OS / FSF movement - vodpod.com/watch/46377-revolution-os-1hr-25-mins
err
 
sorry ChanHoSuh - misping.
 
7:42 AM
Mint still beats Ubuntu :"(
 
When you say "shift from Ubuntu to Red Hat"... you mean for personal use?
 
yes..
 
@ShyamK because it's not a yes/no question, if you need an enterprise solution use red hat, if you don't use fedora or ubuntu based on your personal preferences
 
personal use
 
But why would I want to switch to something where I have to pay them?
 
7:42 AM
@ShyamK then you absolutely shouldn't buy RHEL
@ShyamK if you want, make a Fedora liveCD and see if you like it
 
oh.. okay.. its just that I have heard big things about it.. and was wondering what it was.. to try it out if possible
 
Okay so maybe you mean switch from Ubunto to Fedora... who knows, as other people said: Personal preference :-)
 
I've used Fedora and Ubuntu, and both have features I like. I generally lean towards Ubuntu as Fedora is a little more "cutting edge" in their release cycle which with my hardware has led to some annoying bugs and regressions
 
@adempewolff okay.. I shall do that
 
I think for my computer though, it's unlikely Fedora will run as well. So I don't have much choice.
 
7:44 AM
I also like the Ubuntu community more (not that the Fedora community isn't great as well)
 
Guess I'll give Fedora a shot. :) Cheers to a new venture (some what)
 
In my opinion, the biggest difference in day to day use between Fedora and Ubuntu is that own uses the yum package manager and one uses apt
 
Good point about the bugs/regressions. I've thought about wiping out Ubuntu and replacing with Debian for that reason :-D
 
remember, we can't support your fedora adventures on the site or in chat.
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@ChanHoSuh you and me both :P
 
7:47 AM
@adempewolff scoring a point eh?
 
@jokerdino nah, just pointing out that distro preferences aren't only about hardware and software
 
I know I can't be chatting with you all if I use Fedora.
 
Yeah, probably we would chain-ban you
 
@adempewolff just joking. :)
Not that. But because only proprietary wifi drivers work with my chip.
9
Q: Ubuntu Vs Fedora

Ant'sI would like to know the difference between these two Operating system. I know both are open source. But apart from it, what makes Ubuntu special and what makes Fedora special? It will be really great if the answer mentions the disadvantage in each OS. Thanks in advance.

 
@jokerdino :(
 
7:50 AM
Fedora is evilly blue.
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@jokerdino It doesn't take much extra effort to install such drivers under Fedora
 
@adempewolff No, I am using it as a lame excuse to prevent myself from using it.
 
in fact in earlier Ubuntus (maybe 9.04/9.10 and before) it took the same amount of wifi configuring in Fedora as it did in Ubuntu
since then the ubuntu installer and jockey became a lot smarter...
 
@jokerdino, evilly blue is still better than garish purple
so I'm not proposing this as a deal-breaker, but the Fedora wallpapers are nicer than Ubuntu ones :-p
 
alright. moving on..
where do I find the link for the newsletter?
I am writing up the monthly update for Ask ubuntu to be published on the planet..
 
7:56 AM
I actually haven't used Fedora in awhile. I assume it uses Gnome 3 now.
 
yes it does.
James hate the Fedora's (GNOME's?) design.
Time to download Fedora ISO.
 
Remember we were discussing how we could contrive to make a weird, annoying question? askubuntu.com/questions/142943/…
 
uh oh. the download link is blocked.
yeah read it earlier. it seemed funny.
 
@jokerdino wait, as in by your school?
 
yes.
i think they are blocking all software download links. I couldn't download Quantal ISO as well.
disregard that, i am not desperate to try out Fedora.
 
8:03 AM
@ChanHoSuh I noticed this last night and commented how I wished I could have a screencast of the sentient mouse "homing in on clickable targets and clicking on them, wreaking havoc"
 
re: monthly update, how many questions do you want to be listed? 3 or 5?
and which are they?
pick from here - askubuntu.com/?tab=month
 
8:26 AM
Great answer: Is it legal to sell computers with Ubuntu installed http://askubuntu.com/questions/142611/is-it-legal-to-sell-computers-with-ubuntu-installed/142620?atw=1#142620 #installation
 
12.04 freezes up alot.. and twice I had my mouse pointer freeze up.. I am using a laptop and hence not using a mouse. Just the touch pad. Any ideas why? Why the mouse gets stuck? Why the desktop gets stuck? And why there is an update yet?
 
@ShyamK sorry, I can't really help you with that question. There are a million reasons why your mouse pointer freezes, ranging from the actual touchpad being buggy, your computer freezing because the CPU/memory/whatever is being used at 100%, to software freezing.
you can check your log files to see if there are any hints there
 
i usually just suspend and resume. that frees up the mouse pointer.
 
8:51 AM
I've noticed the synaptics driver seems to have a lot of issues in Ubuntu.
I was using another driver which was more stable, but it didn't have all the features I wanted. Pretty happy now with the current version... but I will watch any further updates with suspicion.
 
9:12 AM
Hello guys
 
Can you recommend a reliable hosting company for video website?
 
@Achu no idea. i never tried hosting
 
Ok Thanks :)
 
Thanks. But I don't think the touchpad is buggy.. works just fine in WIndows...
100% usage freezes up the system.. hmm okay.. any idea what will be logged in the log file on such an occurence? Anything specific?
@jokerdino okay.. but I dint know any command to suspend the lap.. Never used a lap before.. :(
 
9:28 AM
@ShyamK /var/log/Xorg.0.log
 
@ShyamK there is an option to suspend in the systems menu.
anyone knows how to list all the i386 apps installed ?
 
just look for anything suspicious looking that has time-codes corresponding with when you have trouble
should be able to do it in synaptic
select the architecture filter
 
@adempewolff oh okay.. time.. aah totally forgot about that factor :)
 
select i386
then sort by "installed version" (silly trick) to have the installed ones move to the top
 
ah, ok. installing synaptic.
 
9:33 AM
I'm sure there's a quicker terminal solution, I just don't know it
 
@jokerdino but my mouse ain't working? Are you saying I use Alt ?
 
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A: Command-line equivalences of some tasks in Synaptic

enzotib Check a package's dependencies / dependent packages. (This can be done in Synaptic by viewing the properties of a package): apt-cache depend 'package-name' apt-cache rdepend 'package-name' Browse available packages apt-cache pkgnames apt-cache search '.*' apt-cache show 'package-name' Search...

@ShyamK alt-f10 and move around.
 
@jokerdino or use the new HUD, tap alt quickly then type suspend and click device>suspend
 
that might work too. i don't use HUD too often.
 
@adempewolff thats what I thought too.. But this Alt+F10 ? what is this?
doesn't seem to work on 11.10
 
9:37 AM
11.10? just try f10
 
@jokerdino Pressing F10 is like the Alt key in windows.. Brings down the menu..
hmm.. nice
 
@Sathya hi
 
@Achu don't flag for migration of Ubuntu questions to Ask Ubuntu, they are on-topic for Super User & rest assured, all flags will be declined unless the OP asks for migration.
@jokerdino hi
 
oooh. i wouldn't do that.
 
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Q: When should questions be moved to AskDifferent/AskUbuntu/...?

Oliver SalzburgI read this question, which helped, but where is the line? Just because a question is about an Apple product, doesn't mean it is off-topic (not at all actually) just because another (more specific) site exists for that kind of question. Then again, a question that would be more at home on anothe...

 
10:05 AM
@Sathya Ok, i didn't know that. i will never do that again. Thanks for informing me that :)
 
10:21 AM
@Achu thank you.
 
11:20 AM
Can you answer this? How to fix what CCSM does to Unity 3D? http://askubuntu.com/questions/141478/how-to-fix-what-ccsm-does-to-unity-3d?atw=1 #unity
 
Hello all
 
hi @AmithKK
 
askubuntu.com/questions/143236/multiple-internet-problems - anyone got a better title? i am in the middle of editing it and the title is a blocker
 
I think intermittent wireless speed problems is probably most correct
 
@jokerdino "Many websites don't load properly, gives untrusted connection warning"
 
11:32 AM
Cannot connect via wireless to campus network but can connect via ethernet and can connect via wireless to router at home. <-- intermittent wireless problem
Some websites won't load (eg. Hotmail), some will load without formatting (eg. Facebook) and some will load fine (eg. Ask Ubuntu). <--probably slow loading and not getting the formatting/js file before timeout
Sites requiring a password (eg. Twitter / Facebook) will bring up an Untrusted connection warning. <-- added ssl makes the connection too slow and getting the credentials times out
 
@Sathya thanks, edited.
@aking1012 may be.
he seems to blame Ubuntu for his Internet problems though. at least that's what I can sense.
 
yeah. it screams wireless driver issue to me, but that's how i think the problems relate
 
I see an app developer doing a survey on Ask Ubuntu
 
survey?
 
opinion poll? i don't know what you want to call it - askubuntu.com/questions/143239/…
 
11:42 AM
i think there's too much opinion allowed in that one. i like the If I decided today to start earning a living doing software development for Linux, where would one begin? part, but the rest is too subjective
 
@aking1012 There used to be a nasty bug with broadcom chipsets connecting to WPA2 Enterprise networks, although it went away for me with a kernel update a year or two ago...
 
just two more close votes. that was quite fast.
 
@jokerdino I was thinking of commenting as much myself
 
@jokerdino i voted. i just also expressed the part i liked
 
@aking1012 yes i noted that. but I don't feel it should be really here. I don't think it even has to do with Ubuntu.
 
11:46 AM
fair enough. it probably belongs on ubuntu forums as a discussion on where the demand is for apps in ubuntu app-store and how one gets started in that arena
 
yeah. it is a good topic and all. but i just don't see it fit in here.
 
if the fellow opened a discussion on the forums, i wouldn't be opposed to dumping that link in the question during close
 
@aking1012 i don't mind that either.
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Q: How can I stop my cursor from going berserk?

Chuck SmallWhen I upgraded to Ubuntu 12.4 on my HP 32-bit Pavilion, from time to time my cursor goes berserk. Completely beyond my control, it zaps all over my workspace, homing in on clickable targets and clicking on them, wreaking havoc, opening and closing and activating at random. In addition to the p...

we might have dupes here.
 
@jokerdino could be, I'm kind of inclined to think that both are hardware problems though
 
more than likely.
 
11:59 AM
of course, just because they are hardware problems doesn't mean there can't be a software solution.... I just don't feel like remotely walking someone through testing and configuring Xorg.conf when they really should just buy a new mouse
 

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