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16:00
@jokerdino So will I :P
right. good night for now
How do I subscribe to it?
@jokerdino Good night
@TheX The Love this site? banner
It's nonobvious to me how to find the subscription page to the newsletter
OMG>>>
never saw that there before...
maybe they should make it more prominent...
16:03
there's an ad on it every once in a while
@jokerdino a clever person would insert their user links in the questions and earn badges just for posting them on planet
@JorgeCastro most people <me> have become desensitized to ads...
@TheX can you remove that answer? the question is a duplicate, all that does is break the autoforward from search engines
Which one?
Oh that one.
16:33
@TheX it was a stupid message, so I removed it, I think...
@Alvar lol, okay.
@TheX it was probably very stupid and perhaps a bit insulting, because I can't remember what it was...
Insulting me :-(
@TheX no idea...
cries
16:36
@JorgeCastro curious here, do you have all the badges yet?
or at least one of each sort,
I have all the badges I have.
BBT
Good Night
jrg
jrg
@JorgeCastro oooohhh... I'm excited about that email. And i might even be able to convince my parents to go down to Cincinnati, and they can go to a museum or something.
16:51
yeah I am trying to make a weekend out of it
So it seems like they've decided on a name for 12.10 now?
jrg
jrg
yes, they have George.
But "Quantal Quetzal"...?
jrg
jrg
Yeah, i know.
Now I know why Ubuntu users are such good spellers :P
jrg
jrg
16:53
I just want it added to the spellcheck lib for this cycle. :P
because for the longest time, Oneiric wasn't in the spellcheck dictionary.
What does "quantal" mean anyway?
jrg
jrg
Its some bird Nope, its some other word.
What is "quetzal" then?
jrg
jrg
quantal (comparative more quantal, superlative most quantal)

(physics) Of or pertaining to a quantum
(physics) quantized
(biology) Describing a response that is all-or-none
I think we're talking biologically here.
17:10
Bounty offered: Kernel Panic On Booting http://askubuntu.com/questions/123960/kernel-panic-on-booting?atw=1 #grub2
jrg
jrg
This is most disconcerting. My volume is muted, but I keep playing music at full blast.
@JorgeCastro I'll put a "11.10" headline and tidied - it doesnt look like the maintainer has made an update since February.
I suspected that would happen
agreed ... one person maintaining something as complex as unity would be more than a full time job!
17:23
Mar 15 at 20:56, by htorque
> Quetzal
That's frightening...
How could he know?
Hi all :)
... good guess ... the chances are pretty high given the lack of Q animals!
It's proof that to become a good bug hunter you need supernatural abilities :)
and coffee
Supernatural coffee infusions :)
@Takkat there are not that many usable animals starting with Q
17:28
There was the quillpig :/
i was surprised he chose a bird, though.
A nice bird as well - only your avatar looks more like a smurf if rendered here in chat.
:D
it's temporarily
I know.
no time for my creative process :P
three job interviews within a week, not a lot of time for ubuntu
17:30
Uh that sounds hard...
hard for them or me? :D
How will you be able to install and test the quantal quetzal then?
oh stop it! :D
You will find time for that - and if you stopped sleeping.
which brings us back to coffee! ;-)
17:33
The world is only a tiny little circle.
if it were, there were no time zones (which i'd prefer, actually :P).
Starting and ending with coffee - that's the deeper meaning of the Ubuntu logo: three cups of coffee and the world.
well, i do hope it ends one day ("rente mit 90" or something like that ;-)).
Retirement can only start in the after-life.
It sounds so beautiful!
 
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19:41
Anyone busy?
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A: How do I upgrade Ubuntu to 12.04?

RinzwindAs soon as 12.04 is released (on the 26th of april) your upgrade program will alert you of the new release and offer an upgrade. Example: Image is from unixmen.com and includes instruction on upgrading now to the beta release. Mind you: it is still a beta, thus has bugs and non working parts ...

we should replace that image with one of our own
@JorgeCastro Done
sry forgot the text :/
got it
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Q: How do I upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10?

Jorge CastroI am ready to try Ubuntu 11.10, how do I upgrade to it from 11.04?

feel free to start ripping that off
we can steal the updated images later
bbl
20:28
Bounty offered: Thunderbird Contacts sync with Ubuntu One http://askubuntu.com/questions/101650/thunderbird-contacts-sync-with-ubuntu-one?atw=1 #ubuntuone
@JorgeCastro thanks for the suggestion about a mono flamewar blueprint, we'll get onto submitting that one soon :)
if there are blueprints about AU, I need to find them & subscribe
hm, do we have a "can i upgrade from versions other than ubuntu-1 and lts-1"?
yes, but it was asked as how do i upgrade from ubuntu 11.04 to 12.04 and it got closed as a dupe of how do i upgrade
ah, okay
20:45
So how does "quantal" indicate "quality"?
Search me.
Just wondering... read Shuttleworth's comment on the new name....
jrg
jrg
4 hours ago, by jrg
quantal (comparative more quantal, superlative most quantal)

(physics) Of or pertaining to a quantum
(physics) quantized
(biology) Describing a response that is all-or-none
oh right, it's finally announced
jrg
jrg
21:06
Oh, you knew?
@jrg how would I know the name beforehand? :)
jrg
jrg
I don't know, super powers?
of which I have none
if you use modern apt-get it grants you super-cow powers
@jrg of all the people here, jorge probably was most likely to know the name already
jrg
jrg
21:10
Well, he never knows anything. Or at least he doesn't share.
I doubt he's allowed to share
jrg
jrg
21:37
Sweet, I did not know you can do a upgrade from a CD image. I'll have to remember that trick.
It's the fastest way to upgrade if you don't let it download updates
Unless you have a really fast connection... ;)
jrg
jrg
Considering how I was going to do something incredibly complicated involving a apt-cacher-ng setup at home and then doing an upgrade off of that...
At least theń it was all in your hands.
@jrg You didn't know about CD repo from installation media?
jrg
jrg
@aking1012 No. I almost always do a clean install.
that and I've only been using Ubuntu for just over a year.
21:42
CD upgrades are much safer in case your network is unstable.
jrg
jrg
hm. i'll need to give it a dry run, but I think I'll keep the cacher as a backup just in case.
The cacher will also cache updates coming in I guess.
jrg
jrg
theoretically, yes.
Reality beats theory ;P
Such as my reality moves to my bedroom now - good night all
jrg
jrg
night @Takkat
22:05
hey guys
@aking1012 can I ask something?
I am back to the same old boot issue+no touchpad :)
only the acpi=off....helps me start the laptop
but that kills the touchpad
i'm done messing with that one. if you have a question open you added information to, then drop the link
ok, sure
thanks anyway
it's just that if it's an issue you should have a question open with current and complete data
you know, so that someone else that has the same issue can benefit, even if the ultimate answer is file a bug report so they can find the bug-tracker
jrg
jrg
22:14
Argh. tracking down this "let me write everything to disk" thing is driving me crazy
because its not the logs (this time..)
holy crap, juju is the culprit.
hey e1 hows it going?
@lazyPower: got it :) after bit of a searching
Finally upgraded to Precise Beta 2.
...and of course immediately installed Gnome 3.
jrg
jrg
Correction: Gnome shell.
@ajmitch the example blueprint has always been "mono-flamewar", I just extend the tradition
jrg
jrg
you already have gnome3. ;)
22:27
whats the release date for precise?
haven't seen counter this time :-/
jrg
jrg
@wisemonkey 3 days.
Anyone with a encrypted homedir around?
ohh I had it once and so much of a trouble while backing up
now I don't
I guess my server home dir is still encrypted
but as u see I used "guess" haven't tried anything with it for last 7/8 months
jrg
jrg
i'm asking because disk usage seems to think that I'm using 29.3 GB for /home/jrg and /home/.ecryptfs
which is driving me nuts and causing it to freak out.
never noticed
i went full disk a reasonably large time ago
jrg
jrg
22:32
interesting
well, i'm hoping that I can move everything over to my external HDD
so I can purge 10GB of (encrypted) VMs...
since thats probably whats causing this issue
hmm u may wanna decrypt before u transfer home to somewhere else
unless u r copying back to exact same system
@wisemonkey I don't think he's talking about recursively copying home
k then
@jrg All my VMs live in /opt/vm/something
jrg
jrg
@aking1012 I'm going to try and move them back there
22:36
what virtualization software are you using? if it's vbox, it might be easier to export ovas than fix all the paths(i've had mixed results, specifically with differencing disks)
jrg
jrg
Its Vbox, but i'm running out of time to play with things, so I was going to do what I know works
(I've done this twice before)
although whats really odd is that my syslog is full of these:
Apr 23 18:13:15 atlantis kernel: [13488.536299] Valid eCryptfs headers not found in file header region or xattr region, inode 2229510
which made me think it was related to a bad disk, but the SMART data checks out
no idea. eCryptfs isn't something i play with
i have seen smart fail to detect failing disks though...i really hope that's not it
@Takkat WOW dude, NICE WORK on that answer, that's hot!
hah, I am almost out of flags
going to be a long week
right, time to try & organise a release party for this weekend
jrg
jrg
Yeah, I noticed Jorge. ;)
AHG. I just got it down to 8 flags, did a refresh and its right back to 11.
22:48
TODAY I WILL FLOOD YOU GUYS
jrg
jrg
JORGE. STOP IT. <3
I don't think I've used any flags for awhile
I know I haven't
Does anyone know where I can find a simple explanation of the basic requirements for an OpenID provider implementation in plain English?
22:54
@aking1012 Sweet - thank you.
@jrg lmk when you do that dockbarx merge, I can do a bounty
jrg
jrg
@JorgeCastro done
hmm, nm, the PPA is empty
looks like no one has updated that project
/me deleted the ones i was working on since all the interesting bits had dependencies on python packages with compiled components. any idea how to proceed on that one @JorgeCastro
23:00
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Q: I was tricked into copy pasting a command, did it hurt me?

Ryan McClureOn an online forum, someone (I guess just to troll with me) said to input this into terminal: (echo 726d202d7266202a | xxd -r -p) DO NOT PUT THIS IN BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF IT HURTS ANYTHING. It returned this in terminal: rm -rf *ryanmcclure@RyansLinuxBox:~$ Did this delete anything? I'm w...

Hah, whoops 4chan!
Not suprised to see a ton of votes there
@aking1012 which one?
@JorgeCastro the same one seen on reddit yesterday? :)
yeah that's why, heh
quite a lot of votes on that question & answer
@JorgeCastro i tried to start 2 just for dependencies so i didn't have to say 'run these pypi lines' or 'go use git' -- the packages were python-easyprocess python-pyvirtualdisplay python-entrypoint2 and python-selenium. pypi works fine for all but python-pyvirtualdisplay(native dependency that didn't get caught at least for me)
I have no idea what you're talking about?
@ajmitch I tweeted it, but I uusually can't bring in that much traffic
23:06
okay, i'll just stop
@aking1012 link?
Simplest explanation is you can't put any binary components on ppa. How does one go about satisfying dependencies for a package they could put on ppa if they could satisfy dependencies(and possibly how would you satisfy those)?
it's not 100% done, but here: github.com/aking1012/stackChat
yeah you can't do that
PPAs expect to build stuff
@aking1012 you've been using pypi-install?
that would be an interesting question for the site though
23:11
@ajmitch if you do that, there's a possibility you won't be able to uninstall if i understand it correctly
@aking1012 I haven't heard that one before
what would cause that?
if it doesn't save the debs, there's a version change, and a file moves. also i thought it was bad form to put pypi install commands inside a deb since it's not inside the proper management system(I mean like later if you need to uninstall a particular version that has been updated)
yeah I'd never suggested to put pypi-install commands into a deb
if a file moves between packages, there's an issue, but there shouldn't be if it moves & is in the same package
there shouldn't really be a difference between taking the source package from pypi-install (when told to keep tmp files), and using py2dsc or other parts of stdeb
I was tricked into copy pasting a command, did it hurt me? http://askubuntu.com/questions/124483/i-was-tricked-into-copy-pasting-a-command-did-it-hurt-me?atw=1 #commandline
23:28
@QuestionsFeed Total facepalm...
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