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user19161

21:00

I have a NEC powermate p5050 desktop 2gb ram amd turion and nec versa s7100 1gb ram intel core 2 duo

TheX

a bit light on ram but shouldn't be two light...

user19161

I run the 32-bits which is supposedly faster since I don't have 4gb ram or do video editing.

jrg

so your specs are better than mine.

TheX

Not sure about the Turion...

user19161

Both are 64-bit processors.

TheX

21:03

what speed?

user19161

And I take very good care of them, they look brand new.

TheX

I have a intel core 2 duo btw

Roland Taylor

64bit OSs are faster regardless of how much RAM you have or if you do video editing.

TheX

@RolandTaylor that isn't always the case

user19161

@RolandTaylor Really? I show you this post.

TheX

21:03

it will only be faster if the software takes advantage of it.

Roland Taylor

If the software is 64bit as well, then it is faster.

user19161

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Q: Hardware to install 64-bit OS

If I search on Internet for minimum requirements to install a 64-bit operating system, Microsoft and allied forums recommend 4 GB RAM as the minimum criteria. On the other hand, when I look at Linux communities and say I have Dual Core Processor and 2 GB of RAM they say it's a 64-bit processor an...

TheX

@RolandTaylor there, that is better :-P

user19161

So after reading various posts on the internet I decided to stick to 32-bits.

TheX

although ubuntu makes it impossible to install 32bit software on a 64bit OS

Roland Taylor

21:05

@JasperLoy that post didn't prove me wrong :).

Octavian Damiean

@TheX Oh?

user19161

@RolandTaylor I like caleb's answer.

Roland Taylor

@JasperLoy Up till yesterday, Phoronix had an article on why you should go 64bit.

user19161

@RolandTaylor Show me.

Roland Taylor

I'll try to dig it up, gimme a sec

TheX

21:06

@OctavianDamiean you have never tried to isntall 32 bit deb on 64bit Ubuntu?

Octavian Damiean

@TheX I successfully did.

TheX

it will give you some error "32bit software not supported by this architecture" or something like that...

user19161

You just need to install the 32-bit libraries for it to work.

Octavian Damiean

Well not a deb.

Roland Taylor

@JasperLoy phoronix.com/…

Octavian Damiean

21:07

But software.

Roland Taylor

@TheX not anymore

TheX

@RolandTaylor really?

Roland Taylor

yep

On 12.04, it uses multiarch, so it will just install like nothing happened.

TheX

There you go again... showing off and making me feel retarded :P

user19161

@RolandTaylor Well hardware there is 4gb ram. :-)

jrg

21:09

@RolandTaylor heck, on 11.10 it uses multiarch.

Roland Taylor

@jrg oh yeah that's true too

user19161

You guys know that when you install acroread on 64-bit ubuntu it is installing the 32-bit version right?

TheX

In general, if you don't have more then 3.5 gbs of ram, then you don't need 64bit OS

Roland Taylor

@JasperLoy yes, but you don't need 4GB RAM to use a 64bit OS

jrg

and 11.04 started having 64 bit stuff.

user19161

21:11

@RolandTaylor I am just thinking for 2gb ram it might be faster with 32-bit.

Roland Taylor

And realistically, you should have more than 2GB of RAM if possible, unless your processor cannot support it.

It might, but only for a few operations.

user19161

But I tried both and there is no noticeable difference in speed.

TheX

@RolandTaylor clearly the more RAM the better off you are :P

Roland Taylor

@TheX I don't see why someone who can do better would choose not to, to be honest

@JasperLoy well, fair enough - but one parting shot - 64bit is more secure :)

TheX

@RolandTaylor I have a few ideas... like maybe they can't afford computer upgrades like you :-P

Roland Taylor

21:13

Ha! I won!

@TheX who said I could afford them ;)?

TheX

@RolandTaylor I mean not everyone has qaud core processors...

Roland Taylor

My system came with 4GB of RAM, and still has it...

TheX

and 18gbs of ram

Roland Taylor

@TheX D:! SHOW OFF

I see what you did there...

jrg

@TheX SHOW OFF D:

TheX

21:14

I only have 4 gbs of ram for the record

and a 1tb hard drive...

Roland Taylor

and a quad core processor...

and more than one desktop...

TheX

shhh :-P

Roland Taylor

XD

TheX

hey the other desktop is used for XBMC

Octavian Damiean

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Q: The future of meta.stackoverflow and meta.stackexchange

Historically this site, meta.stackoverflow, has been the place to ask questions about not just Stack Overflow, but the functioning of the entire Stack Exchange (2.0) network, including Area 51 and stackexchange.com. (Yes, there was a meta.stackexchange, but that dealt with the old legacy Stack E...

discussion meta

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YES!!

Roland Taylor

21:15

@TheX lol :D the rest of us have to use XBMC on our laptops :(

TheX

I mean really, who can afford to dedicate an entire desktop to XBMC...

XBMC does look nice on my tv...

Roland Taylor

D:

yeah, rub it in.

Jorge Castro

I do

Roland Taylor

rub

Jorge Castro

I have a Zotac for XBMC

it was like $300

Roland Taylor

21:17

@JorgeCastro joins in the rubbing

XD I love you guys :D

TheX

@JorgeCastro I actually can't afford it...

I am just as poor as the next guy...

Roland Taylor

I have not laughed this much in a long time

TheX

the extra desktop was free...

someone gave it to me, because it wasn't working... they rashly went out and bought a new one...

Roland Taylor

<--- takes note of @jrg's silence

TheX

all I had to do was replace the PSU, and add some ram I had laying around...

Roland Taylor

21:18

(he must be laughing at us mere humans, with our desktops...)

jrg

Oh heck yes we're going to get meta.SE

@RolandTaylor i'm not laughing.

Roland Taylor

@jrg I can feel it!

TheX

@jrg is a Vulcan... btw...

Roland Taylor

^tis true!

TheX

He will eventually destroy us...

jrg

21:20

I do not feel emotion. I simply "am".

Roland Taylor

He killed me once, but fortunately I had an extra life in my pocket.

George Edison

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A: The future of meta.stackoverflow and meta.stackexchange

This is excellent news and I've been waiting for this to happen for quite some time. However, I do see one huge problem that will need to be addressed in some way: Dead links. Google has indexed millions (well, hundreds of thousands anyway) of pages here on Meta that have been around for years....

Roland Taylor

Okay seriously, why don't they just flag "The Bridge"?

George Edison

Meta.SO is dying.

Oh... I see I am too late. Somebody beat me to it :P

TheX

He clearly does not care that he killed you and failed...

Roland Taylor

21:24

Oh, he didn't fail, the Vulcan death grip was highly effective :D

However, I'm not very good at remaining dead...

TheX

Yes but he failed to check your pocket for extra lifes...

jrg

@RolandTaylor Just wait until you see what happens in the serverfault room... thats not really friendly. :P

George Edison

Almost done backing up my old Ubuntu partition - then it's simply a matter of doing some partitioning >:)

jrg

no flags, but its not really friendly most of the time.

Roland Taylor

@TheX lololol

@jrg I guess sysadmins are all sailors ;)

TheX

21:31

@RolandTaylor got your house cleaned yet?

jrg

@RolandTaylor No, just professional IT people.

George Edison

I hope those aren't my last words :P

Roland Taylor

@jrg lol you missed the hidden meaning :P

@TheX did what I could lol. Not much to be done really.

George Edison

...and it's gone!

jrg

@GeorgeEdison Just don't do partition when half asleep, you'll be fine.

TheX

21:32

@RolandTaylor then your house must be cleaner then my pig sty... need to talk to the wife about that...

George Edison

@jrg I'm okay - it's just barely lunch time here.

jrg

@RolandTaylor I know what you're talking about.

Ok, good for you then.

George Edison

Part 2 - resizing an NTFS partition.

[Gulp]

jrg

stop wimpering and get it over with! :P

Roland Taylor

@TheX there is room in the basement. Btw I was thinking about getting a dog house...

Marco Ceppi

21:35

Cock the hammer, pull the trigger

George Edison

Okay - I'm hoping for the best. Restarting with the Live USB installer... stand by...

If I don't make it back, this is the link to the StackApplet 1.6 installer for Windows.

TheX

@RolandTaylor why a dog house? there are two rooms in the basement...

@GeorgeEdison StackApplet doesn't work on Windows 8 :-(

William

21:55

0.0

Its the worst

George Edison

@TheX Impossible - I just ran it on Windows 8 myself.

Does the installer work?

Do you get any error messages or anything?

I am running Firefox off the LiveCD right now... man that thing's fast!

Launches gparted...

William

I like stackalert better

George Edison

You won't when StackApplet is done - it already has more features :)

For example, you can mark items as read even though the API doesn't support that.

(StackApplet keeps track internally of what you've read.)

Done already...? That was fast. Thanks gparted!

Okay, gotta restart again guys. Hopefully everything is safe back in Windows land.

Roland Taylor

:D windows...

William

0.0

htorque

22:08

so, does stackapplet run on windows 8 yet?

:P

@GeorgeEdison did resizing ntfs work? i spend some hours shouting at my computer after trying to do that... :D

best thing: defrag with windows, chkdisk in windows, then resize with gparted and hope for the best (on success, again run chkdisk from windows).

George Edison

@htorque Yeah, defragmenting beforehand helps.

@htorque It should - I've been doing it.

Let me try installing it with the installer...

Wow... time is ticking... the API contest ends soon and I need StackApplet to work!!!

htorque

22:28

ah, time to use a nice batch of 24 close votes. >:)

George Edison

@TheX: I really need to know why it doesn't work.

htorque

boom, out of votes. amazing how rarely i disagree with close votes.

htorque

22:44

good night!

Bruno Pereira

@htorque gn!

Allan

I need help!!!!

jrg

23:22

@Allan still need help?

blech, windows failed, leaving me with a wonderful loading loop. I think I'll just shutdown, boot to my recovery CD and do the recovery dance, again. :\

daslinkard

What's up room?

Oli

Few changes to the Cleanup...
- Batch size (how many you get at once) is now 5, (was 10)
- Max-open is now 20, (was 30)
- Max-per-day is still 50
- And allocations expire after 3 days (was 7 days)

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daslinkard

23:46

When is the best time for the chat room?? Meaning, a lot of people on here chatting?

Bruno Pereira

randomly everyday, its just a quiet moment I think

daslinkard

It seems that way when I log in...typically where are the users from? I'm in the U.S. in Alabama...

Bruno Pereira

Netherlands

daslinkard

What time is it for you? 5:55pm here

Bruno Pereira

almost 1 in the morning

daslinkard

23:56

LOL...that could be my other problem....I'm logging in the afternoon for me....but all my other Linux peeps....are asleep

TheX

@GeorgeEdison let me try again on another computer

Oli

Yeah I don't know where everybody is.. It's usually a bit more busy around this time.

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George Edison

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@TheX Thank you. I also updated the installer, so if you could please be sure to download it again, that would be great.

TheX

I downloaded the link you sent before is that the one?

George Edison

23:59

This one: files.quickmediasolutions.com/stackapplet/…

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