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12:45 AM

Why isn't vim reading my global configuration file? http://t.co/heBaeLb #vim

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Jacob

@George you still around?

George Edison

@Jacob Sure am.

Jacob

@George do you think we could do an iOS chat app? I am decent with Xcode,but you arethe best person with JS hacking I've seen.

George Edison

@Jacob Yeah... but I would have nothing to test it with.

What type of app did you have in mind.

Jacob

Umm I'd do a native one for the iPad... Doing a split table view with the rooms on the left and the chat itself on the right

Oops @george

George Edison

12:54 AM

Keep in mind that this chat doesn't have an API.

...so we'd essentially be doing some reverse engineering to top it all off.

Jacob

@George but..but you're the king of reverse engineering JS

George Edison

@Jacob Thank you... but it's hard enough when I have the hardware on hand.

...it's even harder without it.

Could you describe this application (as far as architecture goes) a little bit more?

Jacob

@George if you're not interested, that's fine.. You don't have an iPod?

George Edison

@Jacob I don't have any iOS device :(

It's not really that I'm not interested... but that I just don't have the enormous amount of time that it would require to reverse-engineer everything.

Roland Taylor

@Jacob are you on Google+?

Jacob

1:01 AM

@Roland yep, I only have to remember what the login I made was..

Roland Taylor

lol

I was thinking to add you, if you don't mind.

Oh btw, we need to transfer some old data if you still have it (for the blog)

Jacob

@George working on any projects now?

Roland Taylor

(not now ofc)

Jacob

@Roland whatbtype of data?

George Edison

@Jacob Yup, JS Studio.

Roland Taylor

1:03 AM

Our old images, a few posts, etc.

George Edison

@Jacob 154.5.1.72:8001

Jacob

@George want to put that on my server? I promise it will be up more :)

George Edison

@Jacob It's okay, actually, Marco is starting a new hosting company on the 6th...

...and we're part of the private beta / testing / whatever.

So I'll probably use that to test it out.

Jacob

@George like FOSS. Hosting?

George Edison

@Jacob Just general hosting.

ondinahosting.com

Jacob

1:08 AM

Oh.

I'd love to help,but I already have a full time job

(offer)

Ugh this mobile interface is strange

Good luck to him on that

George Edison

@Jacob What mobile interface?

Jacob

@George for SE chat.

Roland Taylor

1:44 AM

Yay! Got my yearling badge :D!

Roland Taylor

1:58 AM

it's quiet here...

time to bring out the marching band...

George Edison

3:23 AM

Yeah, it is quiet here.

Roland Taylor

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3:49 AM

How to search the contents in a directory from terminal while you're in the middle of writing a co... http://t.co/8ZouCDH #commandline

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Rinzwind

6:37 AM

morning!

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6:51 AM

looking for script / tool for moving files and subfolders to directory by year http://t.co/m8Er57i #files

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George Edison

Night all.

FlackBot

Goodbye!

Rinzwind

Night!

:P

htorque

8:36 AM

\o/ 46th bug reported. 4 to go then i'm satisfied with my "work" on oneiric. :D

hello all! :)

FlackBot

Hey, nice to see you!

htorque

@FlackBot with "all" i meant all but you. :)

FlackBot

Someday I will be able to intelligently reply to that command. This isn't that day.

htorque

9:00 AM

so much for "you don't need 16gb ram":

$ free -m
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:         15928      15074        853          0       8512       5113

if you don't care about write speeds, this is basically better (and cheaper) than any SSD :D

htorque

9:16 AM

bug #47 - getting close :>

Rinzwind

Heya htorque! :)

htorque

'lo :)

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9:55 AM

Can you answer this? Allow/Deny a user from binding a range of ports http://t.co/wuUIVpV #networking

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Amith kk

10:52 AM

Hello all

FlackBot

Hey, nice to see you!

Amith kk

sigh Just what i need... a chroot with attitude

@FlackBot Kill Jackob

FlackBot

try_to_understand(what_you_said) == FALSE

jrg

12:06 PM

Wow, I need to spend more time in the GUI (occasionally). Nautilus 3 is pretty slick.

Amith kk

@jrg :D

By any chance do you have an Arduino

Rinzwind

12:43 PM

@Takkat are you deleting your own old posts?

Stefano Palazzo

holy cow

google.com

click the play-button -> ROCK

Marco Ceppi

huh, I don't see a play button

Stefano Palazzo

it's Don't stop me now with a really cool animation

Marco Ceppi

Yeah, I just see an american flag

Rinzwind

queen \o/

Stefano Palazzo

12:54 PM

is queen not popular in america? :(

Marco Ceppi

Well, not as much anymore I guess, but Queen is still pretty popular IMO.

I'm a big fan of Queen

Stefano Palazzo

maybe you'll get it a bit later

Marco Ceppi

I just went to google.co.uk

Stefano Palazzo

they're probably trying to prevent the whole of the economy grinding to a halt, because everyone is rocking out instead of working :)

Marco Ceppi

It's labor day here, no on is working :)

Stefano Palazzo

12:57 PM

oops

Marco Ceppi

Well, there aren't many people working

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Which programs use the new "Online Accounts" http://t.co/J27x4Fy #settings

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Marco Ceppi

I can't stop watching it!

Stefano Palazzo

I love how they've taken the lyrics literally (he's kicking a stop–sign)

Rinzwind

@MarcoCeppi maybe the google-dude(tte) that was suppose to update your google version has a day off too >:D

htorque

1:31 PM

greetings!

htorque

1:45 PM

meh, my google foo is taking a break..

how can you add the encoding to a python file?

i tried # -*- coding: utf8 -*-

no luck

"print" complains: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\xdf' ...

Stefano Palazzo

@htorque just put this at the very top of the file:

#coding: utf8

@htorque also, if you're going to have a sharp S put it in a unicode string

>>> "soße"
'so\xc3\x9fe'
>>> "soße".decode("utf8")
u'so\xdfe'
>>> "soße".decode("utf8").encode("utf8")
'so\xc3\x9fe'

htorque

@StefanoPalazzo no luck

Stefano Palazzo

@htorque oh I see, print complains

htorque

u'\xdf' should be utf, no?

i remember i had that problem once and i fixed it by adding that coding header

Stefano Palazzo

from what I can tell, python is trying to interpret ISO8859-15 as utf8

the coding header is if you want to use unicode characters in your source code

htorque

1:53 PM

ah, so it's the other way round "cpSOMETHING"

Stefano Palazzo

you're just having an encoding error

htorque

oh

Stefano Palazzo

this is why we need python3 :(

@htorque where does this character come from?

user input?

htorque

no, i got no soße here. no sane programmer would use special chars in his code :D

from launchpad

Stefano Palazzo

@htorque print the exact string you get from LP using print repr(bla),

htorque

1:55 PM

paste.ubuntu.com/682586

wheeee

i THINK it's the "°" or "(c)" sign

gotta find out which bug title contains it

Stefano Palazzo

print "%s %s" % (task.status, unicode(task.title, 'utf8', 'replace'))

@htorque this'll try to encode the string in utf8, and replace any broken characters with the unicode replacement character, rather than raising an exception

>>> print unicode("sda\xdf", "utf8", "replace")
sda�

htorque

ha, i guess it's this: "New Bug #791967 in Ubuntu Font Family: "Ubuntu Mono: German capital ß (ẞ) too wide""

yes it is

funny thing: print to console works

redirect to file fails

Stefano Palazzo

@htorque that's because the file is opened in binary mode

htorque

i want to punch the guy that invented encoding

Stefano Palazzo

if you want to write text to a file, open it like this: open("file.txt", "u") and open("file.txt", "uw")

htorque

2:01 PM

i just did "./bug.py > bug.txt"

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "get_bug_status.py", line 12, in <module>
    print "%s %s" % (task.status, unicode(task.title, 'utf8', 'replace'))
TypeError: decoding Unicode is not supported

Stefano Palazzo

huh, then maybe task.title is unicode already

oh it is indeed

htorque

i'll just copy the output from the console... no time to play around with this crap :D

Stefano Palazzo

you can do this then: task.title.encode('utf8', 'replace')

should work

htorque

nope :D

Stefano Palazzo

huh

htorque

2:06 PM

UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position 64: ordinal not in range(128)

Stefano Palazzo

okay in that case, blame launchpadlib :)

htorque

would be unfair!

Roland Taylor

hi all

Stefano Palazzo

that's clearly a bug, they say they're returning unicode but they aren't sanitising user-input

htorque

i just don't blame me, that's enough :D

@RolandTaylor hi

Stefano Palazzo

2:07 PM

you've no idea of the scale of the problem :) Python 3 completely changed the way strings work because of this

Roland Taylor

why didn't FlackBot say hi?

htorque

@FlackBot you there?

FlackBot

I'm afraid I don't know how to answer that command yet.

htorque

@RolandTaylor in that case: he doesn't like you. :P

Roland Taylor

haha

Stefano Palazzo

2:11 PM

small tip @htorque

Instead of bug_numbers = [int(x) for x in data.split(" ")], write bug_numbers = (int(x) for x in data.split(" "))

if you make a habit of it, your programs will run faster

the second one is a "generator expression", which is like an iterator. it only evaluates each item as you request it, not all at once (lazy evaluation)

htorque

oops

i actually used the wrong, ah well...

thanks anyways! :)

great, next problem: how do i deal with bugs with multiple tasks... i just wanted a list of bugs i reported and how their states are. kinda difficult to tell if there is one task "fix released", one "Unknown", and a third "Invalid". :D

cool, only 5 of my ~350 bug reports got a "Won't Fix" :D

two "Opinion"

Stefano Palazzo

you could order them by importance

i.e. "fix released" in nautilus beats "won't fix" in unity

Alvar

@rolandTaylor that g+ message was kind of strange and out of context... cool

Roland Taylor

@Alvar it was related to the blue thingy I posted :D

I knew (or at least figured) it would annoy you lol

(same thing as the one in my gravatar btw)

Alvar

@RolandTaylor no that one didn't annoy me! ;) I just hate when I get 5 posts with a big picture so it covers my whole feed! :)

Stefano Palazzo

2:24 PM

wait

@RolandTaylor you drew these?

Roland Taylor

si senor

todos

Stefano Palazzo

oh my word

Roland Taylor

@Alvar LOL

Stefano Palazzo

I don't mind if you spam my feed. they are fantastic!

Roland Taylor

XD ty!

Alvar

2:25 PM

@RolandTaylor they are kind of cool actually.

Roland Taylor

I'm trying to get feedback on em, cause they are visualizations of the creatures in my novel

Stefano Palazzo

kind of cool? I assumed you got them from old books and things. that's some talent you have

very impressive indeed

Roland Taylor

and btw - on an ubuntu related note - GIMP + Pinta help a lot with cleaning up scanned art work :D

@StefanoPalazzo thanks :D

I'm touched :D

Alvar

@RolandTaylor novel?! that's even cooler than Ondina! ;)

Roland Taylor

yesh

btw we should move this to the room I created for writers on ubuntu lol

@Alvar :O!

Alvar

2:27 PM

@RolandTaylor haha

Roland Taylor

hides from the angry mob

Alvar

a webhost is too mainstream to be considered cool! ;)

Roland Taylor

lol nah

Alvar

if we were on a wirters site thne a webhost would be the coolest thing ever.

Roland Taylor

for web developers Ondina is awesomesauce

2

Stefano Palazzo

2:30 PM

I need a name for a software project

can you help? :)

Roland Taylor

LOL I love/hate when people suggest an edit that asks a question inside someone else's answer :P

Stefano Palazzo

plus.google.com/113077604937145555820/posts/XLaX24EiiYi?hl=en

Marco Ceppi

Papi

Roland Taylor

aye

Stefano Palazzo

that's nice!

but very probably taken :\

> PAPI aims to provide the tool designer and application engineer with a consistent interface and methodology for use of the performance counter hardware found ...

Roland Taylor

2:31 PM

(that always reminds me of an old Jay-Z song)

Marco Ceppi

Sapi?

Roland Taylor

aye papi

XD

Alvar

yeah I really like Ondina, if it delivers and gets as good as it hopes (and me) it will be better than any other I've seen...

Marco Ceppi

Papi (Palazzo API)

Stefano Palazzo

sapi is the microsoft speech api :\

Alvar

2:32 PM

@StefanoPalazzo Papi!!!

Roland Taylor

what hasn't microsoft grabbed already :(?

Marco Ceppi

Hum, could take the ruby naming scheme: YAAPI

Alvar

@RolandTaylor Apple.

Stefano Palazzo

I assume [a-z]api is completely taken

Roland Taylor

@Alvar LOL

Alvar

2:33 PM

@StefanoPalazzo Crapi

Roland Taylor

They took the bite

Stefano Palazzo

lol

there is one called "FRAPI" (puts the rest back in restful...)

Roland Taylor

@jrizzle sup

jrg

@StefanoPalazzo Yes. Here's my basic naming scheme: babynamegenie.com/baby-name-generator

Jorge Castro

hey @htorque

Marco Ceppi

2:36 PM

What if you just dropped the api all together, and called it Lemar or something like that

jrg

Well, that's until I release. Then, I pick a fictional planet name from some sci-fi universe.

htorque

@JorgeCastro hi

Stefano Palazzo

I like that idea

Jorge Castro

@htorque what package brings in all of GNOME 3 and the session? gnome-session?

Stefano Palazzo

probably good to avoid things like Py* and *API

htorque

2:38 PM

good question... i think so, yes

Stefano Palazzo

I'll call it Geoff ;)

Marco Ceppi

Python_Palazzo_API ?

4

jrg

I like Geoff. No idea what he/it does, but I like it. ;)

Stefano Palazzo

:)

I like "Polly". but not got any google-juice left :(

(as in: 'ello polly parrot! and also "polling the api")

Roland Taylor

@JorgeCastro GNOME-Shell pulls in that stuff too I think

Jorge Castro

2:46 PM

yeah I am trying to find the one package that brings everything in

htorque

gnome-session definitely pulls in unity and unity-2d

Jorge Castro

yeah, just fixed that

I think it's gnome-shell

Roland Taylor

it seems to be GNOME session

Jorge Castro

that seems to pull in the right bits

Roland Taylor

but yes, GNOME-Shell does it right

htorque

2:48 PM

can you have all three installed in parallel?

Roland Taylor

I do

htorque

sweet (for those that care about gnome-shell >:D)

Jorge Castro

how do I run lightdm in like window mode so I can screen the session?

Roland Taylor

I can't stay on GNOME-Shell for too long for personal reasons :>, but it works just fine

Jorge Castro

I mean take the screenshot of lightdm

Roland Taylor

2:50 PM

try xnest

Jorge Castro

@RolandTaylor did gnome-shell kick your dog or something?

3

Roland Taylor

@JorgeCastro and, skinned my cat (alive!)

lol it's jus not all that... usable. It feels unfinished.

Jorge Castro

bummer, I gotta take off, if someone wants to add the screenies to the updated gnome3 answer it would be <3

Roland Taylor

*just

hi @Rinz and @Geor

Rinzwind

heya

George Edison

2:58 PM

@RolandTaylor Hello..

Roland Taylor

I can't wait till that bug in indicators is fixed :(

stackapplet still won't work because of it

George Edison

:(

Takkat

3:12 PM

@Rinzwind yeah, started reading them made me instantly click on delete ;)

Hi all

FlackBot

Hey, nice to see you!

Roland Taylor

3:32 PM

hi

Takkat

I like the blue look :)

Roland Taylor

ty ^^

It's a dinosaur :)

Takkat

but also hope and optimism

Roland Taylor

yep :D

Takkat

I thought dinos were all green or brown...

Roland Taylor

3:35 PM

lawl

no

some were black

Takkat

My daughter showed me a pink one...

Roland Taylor

According to people who claim to see living ones in Africa, they might have some fancy colours too

Takkat

In case they really are related to birds they must have been quite colorful!

htorque

even pink!

Roland Taylor

and some Pterosaurs might be bioluminescent :D

Takkat

3:36 PM

:D :D :D

Roland Taylor

@htorque LOL

jrg

Hello... here for a little bit.

Takkat

Hi @jrg

jrg

Hello @Takkat.

How're things?

Roland Taylor

@jrg oh hai

Takkat

3:43 PM

Things are great - Summer ended \o/

htorque

summer started?

jrg

Summer ended for me last week Takkat. :P

@RolandTaylor waves

Takkat

End of summer = looong winter nights coding.... ;)

jrg

Ok, back to biology. Thanks for confiming the existence of people who can speak english and not Animalia Mammalia Chordate Carnivore (For those that don't speak Latin/Whatever-the-heck-that-is, that's "Tiger"). :P

@Takkat That sounds like so much fun! :D

Roland Taylor

@jrg felis...?

Takkat

3:45 PM

I love evenings and nights - they will get longer and longer now...

htorque

mmmmmh, i can't wait to play with the black snow in the city

Roland Taylor

(I forgot if tigers are felis something or some other genus)

@htorque black... snow?

htorque

yeah, at 6 pm it's gotta be dark

@RolandTaylor yeah, european cities are dirty

Takkat

@htorque "watch out where the huskies go and don't you eat that yellow snow"... who remembers?

Roland Taylor

ahh

htorque

3:46 PM

dirt + snow = crap

:D

Roland Taylor

btw, anyone know if pinta is dead?

hasn't been updated since April :(

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4:02 PM

Unable to start on a HP pavilion dv6-3049tx http://t.co/6gMj1ri #kernel

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Rinzwind

4:52 PM

lol @Takkat someone flagged you after you deleted those posts >:D

@htorque snow is always \o/ with or w/o dirt :=D

Takkat

@Rinzwind hope flag was bad qualtity post....

Rinzwind

nope >:D

it was "user is suspicious" >:D

so I agreed \o/

Takkat

oh I didn't know I am ;)

Rinzwind

:D

Takkat

bbl food time

Rinzwind

4:55 PM

me 2!

htorque

5:48 PM

ditto!

slow day again?

Rinzwind

very1

Roland Taylor

>

htorque

0

A: Can't add medibuntu to the software center

I'm not sure what I did to fix it because I have been installing a lot of stuff maybe it's the restart I did but it fixed the problem.

hmmm

that basically makes the whole question not useful

Takkat

6:06 PM

useless.

wohoo, one left :)

done

:-)

lol

I was the other one ;)

Takkat

hope we are not known as the suspicious harsh guys

htorque

6:14 PM

i just opened a wishlist bug report on bugzilla.gnome.org

i probably just wasted five minutes of my life

:D

Takkat

But you can still see this bug in 10 years from now :P

It's like scratching your name on stone somewhere

htorque

hey, talking about 100% safe storage

>:D

Takkat

Well, yes.

htorque

from now on i'll upload important data to a wishlist bug report at gnome

;P

Takkat

lol

htorque

6:18 PM

it's even completely secure - no one will every look at it :D

Takkat

you need no encryption \o/

1

Q: Anybody know how to get the eyedropper tool to work in the GIMP when running Ubuntu 11.04 in Virtual Machine from 7?

Sorry this is so long. If you don't care why I need to run GIMP inside a virtual machine when I could just run it in Windows, or just want to take my word for it when I say that I have no other choice, you can scroll down to the section labeled "The Problem". Introduction I might be the only pe...

another one to close - they solved it

htorque

> Sorry this is so long.

Sorry this is too long.

Takkat

it is.

htorque

why not make it an answer and ask the guy to accept it?

you'd even get an upvote from me :D

Takkat

Still too localized in the first place. It'll get deleted and with it my rep...

htorque

6:23 PM

right, i always forget that closed questions get deleted after some time

@RolandTaylor i finally accepted your answer with some modification

2

A: How do I clean up my dconf database?

Currently this does not seem possible.

yay :D

@htorque minor... ;)

rofl

now i'm back to 100% accept rate :P

nooo, i'm not

hey, @RolandTaylor you can answer the same here:

2

Q: Is it possible to search through http://irclogs.ubuntu.com?

Is there a web front-end for http://irclogs.ubuntu.com that allows me to search through all the IRC chat logs? I tried to google for site:irclogs.ubuntu.com +search-term but that doesn't seem to work reliably. I'm not looking for a solution that fetches any of those files. :-)