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12:50 AM
Does 32-bit PAE with more than 4GB RAM improve speed? http://t.co/QGHL3JE #compatibility
 
1:27 AM
Lol. FlackBot is an owner of the Sandbox room :P
 
1:51 AM
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Q: Cron job not executing

Eric WilsonI'm trying to use cron for the first time, and I'm stuck. I'm using Ubuntu 10.10, and the following is my /etc/crontab file. The only modification that I've made is appending the last line. I've verified that cron is running, and the other jobs here run, but the last one does not. # /etc/cront...

 
2:29 AM
@MarcoCeppi: Do you have a minute?
 
2:59 AM
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Q: Looking for open-source fashion design software for Ubuntu

ATMathewI don't know anything about fashion design, but I've been getting into streetwear and want to try and make some t-shirt and hat designs. Now, I can obviously design in Inkscape, but I was wondering if there was any specific fashion design software available for Ubuntu.

Now I've seen (almost) everything?
 
3:40 AM
@RolandTaylor There's an app for that.™
 
3:54 AM
Can you answer this? Blank screen when installing on an Acer Aspire 4750Z http://t.co/D3VflJ9 #installation
 
Fun fact of the day: there's a 'yes' command. Yes, try running it in a terminal. What does it do? Why, it prints the letter 'y' followed by a line break continuously, of course!
What would you ever use it for? Well, suppose there's a command that asks 'continue (y=yes,n=no)' for a bunch of files and you don't want to sit there and push 'y' for every single file.
You simply pipe the output of the 'yes' command into the input of the other command and presto! - it answers 'y' instead of asking you for the input.
 
 
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5:12 AM
Cool tool: ipinfo.info/netrenderer/index.php <--- Preview your websites in IE without using Windows!
 
 
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6:41 AM
morning!
ubuntu membership survey → ubuntuone.com/7JTEZG0YScFj9mliRJPcCI
 
morning!
 
hi
hehe, it seems sabdfl was at one point asked to renew his ubuntu membership :D:D
 
How to copy data from other vim? http://t.co/ptnUDzK #vim
 
6:56 AM
one to go
don't you want to suggest six tag edits? :D:D
 
7:34 AM
Well, night all.
 
Goodbye!
 
@MarcoCeppi: Looking forward to Ondina tomorrow morning :)
 
@GeorgeEdison good night
 
 
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9:18 AM
Should this question be deleted and re-written for another stackexchange site? The more I dig into the answer on my own, the more I realize this isn't an ubuntu issue and I'm not sure what the typical protocol is when this happens.

http://askubuntu.com/questions/60233/when-i-try-to-add-repositories-why-are-ubuntus-keyservers-timing-out
 
9:59 AM
Set wireless automatically to connect my network http://t.co/pxLisXw #wireless
 
10:15 AM
bbiab
 
10:58 AM
Hello all
 
jrg
@trench It's on-topic - it deals with Ubuntu repositories.
 
Wait What gives @MarcoCeppi its 6th a already!
@jrg Heya
 
jrg
@Amithkk relax, it's 7AM here. Marco probably is getting food.
;)
As must I now. BRB.
 
P**p I have no domain :(
 
jrg
11:25 AM
@Amithkk for use with Ondina?
 
@jrg Yes
 
jrg
That's easily solved. You have two options - I can give you a subdomain off of jamesrgifford.com (don't think you want that, but whatever) or you can register a .tk domain - dot.tk/en/index.html?lang=en
 
@jrg Already have one
 
jrg
@Amithkk then you're set.
 
AAAANND I forgot what ir was
 
jrg
11:27 AM
You'll need to follow his docs on setting up DNS, after that you'll be golden.
Well that's... not cool.
 
Remembered
@jrg WHere??
 
jrg
@Amithkk If it isn't in the docs (which is entirely possible) then pop on jabber whenever and I'll help you. :)
 
*beeps on entry*
*explodes*
good morning to you all
 
jrg
Good morning @TheEvilOne.
 
mornings != good
:P
i should learn PHP
got any resources i should start with?
 
11:40 AM
@TheEvilOne Heya
 
@TheEvilOne Jump right in
 
@MarcoCeppi Good Morning, Ondina?
 
Holas all
 
@Amithkk Sometime today the first batch will go out.
 
jrg
can't wait is excited
 
11:43 AM
excitrd
 
@jrg Thanks for the response but it's really not about repositories at all anymore. It's turned into a DNS issue. But still Ubuntu related, given I'm on Ubuntu.
 
Do i have a Hovercard?
 
@Amithkk No, you need at least 1,000 rep for a hovercard
 
Thinking about rephrasing it and dropping it in... I don't know... serverfault or superuser. Would that be wrong to do? (still pretty new to the stackexchange etiquette)
 
ME NO GUSTA :(
 
11:52 AM
I'd like a hoverboard.
 
@trench Make one DIY Style
Like i did
...
And fell from it
 
I plan on it.
In the future.
 
@trench If the question subject has changed drastically, it might be worth just creating a new question.
If you're not getting good feedback on a question - maybe because of it's subject matter, and you feel it could do better on U&L, SF, SU, etc just flag it for migration and we'll move the question over - that way there isn't a double post.
 
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Q: Is it possible to get an HP Media remote to work with Ubuntu?

Roland TaylorI have two HP remotes, one is a huge remote for the TV tuner and media centre, and the other is a tiny remote for just controlling a media centre. Is it possible to get them to work with Ubuntu (11.04) using LIRC? I know at least one of them is recognized, as I can use one of the buttons to turn...

Hmm...?
 
Thanks @marco -- I wasn't aware I could flag it for migration.
 
jrg
12:07 PM
@trench You're welcome - If you think it'd get a better response then you might want to flag it for migration (as Marco said).
 
1:00 PM
Can you answer this? How to remotely lock out users from logging in temporarily http://t.co/ADMCi4j #remoteaccess
 
'morning everyone
 
g'day
 
hello :)
 
o/ @KaustubhP
havent seen you in a while
 
hello @lazyPower! Ya, been busy!
how have you been :) ?
 
1:27 PM
Same, just wrapped up another set of finals and pushed a prototype live at work. Ironing out the remaining bugs and implementing the remaining feature sets now.
 
heya KaustubhP :)
and lp!
 
hi @Rinzwind :)
@lazyPower wow, you must have taken a minute to think what to type, 'eh? :)
 
No, I'm at work. Split attention
 
1:42 PM
haha, ok. i am wanting to go off work, and hence divided attention. between reddit, AU, FB, and basecamp :p
chalo, I am off work. g'night @lazyPower @Rinzwind :)
Yabbbba Dabbbba DOooooo!
 
G'night @KaustubhP
 
@KaustubhP cya
 
2:00 PM
@MarcoCeppi: Happy 6th!
When is the ribbon cutting?
2 hours ago, by The Evil One
i should learn PHP
Er... maybe not a good idea :P
 
@GeorgeEdison Sometime later today
 
@StefanoPalazzo the APi should be done by this friday
since he has to give a class on it for app developer week
 
@MarcoCeppi Who is in the first batch? :)
 
jrg
OK, I can't be the only person who thinks "SWAG IS HERE" every single time the blasted doorbell rings?
 
@GeorgeEdison about five people. A very small batch to make sure all the sign up systems work. Tomorrow will probably be around 10-15 people
and then 10-15 people every day after that until the list has been exhausted
 
2:18 PM
hi all
 
Hey, nice to see you!
 
morning and afternoon everyone :)
 
@StefanoPalazzo I started with Django last week.
 
nice!
love the clean markup :)
 
I love web programming with Python!
It's so much easier and Django does such a nice job of organizing everything.
 
2:20 PM
@GeorgeEdison a small tip: you can replace <div id="header"> with <header> (and header { display: block; }),
and <footer>, <nav>, <menu>, ...
 
@StefanoPalazzo Will that work with pre-HTML5 browsers, though?
(Like IE7, 8?)
 
I don't know about IE
I know if you put display: block or whatever in the css, it'll work with old versions of Firefox
use one of those screenshot sites. you should be fine with IE >= 8 I suppose
 
It should just degrade to a div in older browsers
 
Wait, IE works?
5
 
*yawns*
 
you can also just remove <body> and </body>, they are implicit between </head> and </html>
@MarcoCeppi huh this is cool
oi! the header text is real text, awesome George
 
Adobe Browserlab works well on design testing
 
@GeorgeEdison html5 tags work in all browsers. Pre IE8 need activating with a little JavaScript code.google.com/p/html5shiv
 
@Greg Modernizr works well on that front too, and even ropes a few problematic elements into submission.
 
@StefanoPalazzo I've never heard such a thing ... you can miss out <body></body> all together? In all browsers?
 
2:28 PM
again, don't ask me about IE. but yes <body> isn't strictly required by the spec
 
@Greg Ah, I see.
 
@StefanoPalazzo even in strict mode?
 
there's no such thing in html5
 
@StefanoPalazzo As soon as the site is live, I'll add you as a 'staff' user.
 
i had no idea.... thats an interesting blibbet of knowledge
 
2:29 PM
That will give you access to the admin interface.
 
jrg
According to the spec, all you really need is <!doctype>, <head> and <html>
 
oh noes, apple has invented android, not google!
:D:D:D
 
do you need <head>?
I've only ever omitted the head-element in html-email (I guess browsers require a <title> and <meta charset=> at least)
 
jrg
Wait, did I say that wrong? I meant all you need are doctype, head and html tags for html5.

Then again, they might have changed the spec in the past 4 months since I read it.
 
2:33 PM
cool, no I just didn't know that you needed the head element
 
jrg
Pretty sure - I've been known to read specs wrong though, so I could be very, very wrong.
 
waiting for a mail form marco! :(
 
jrg
Relax - he'll send it sometime in the next week.
 
@jrg A few days ago I implemented sha2, by reading the spec
bloody thing was in pdf format, and when I copied a list of hex numbers they were pasted in the wrong order
 
jrg
Wow.
 
2:36 PM
I spend at least three hours trying to find the "bug"
 
jrg
Not cool.
 
re-inventing binary arithmetic at one point, just to be sure the universe wasn't playing tricks on me
 
@jrg next weeek?!?!?!? noooooooooooo
 
it wasn't an RFC. they're awesome. always well written and in a simple format
 
apple invented binary arithmetic.
and RFC.
 
2:37 PM
I'm sure they did :)
 
:D
 
whooot lols
 
Woot! my lowest answer on the 1st page is 9 upvotes \
o/
 
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Q: gparted tool confuising - alternatives?

Michael Durrantwhat is a good partition good tool for ubuntu 10 ? I haven't been able to find one that is easy. $ is ok if necessary for ease of use.

i doubt there's any tool that's easier to use than gparted :-o
 
wtf gparted confusing!?!? For what it does I think it is very very easy :X
I know oneA!
fdisk O
lol
 
2:40 PM
yeah, it comes without all that confusing gui :P
 
Ninja'd
 
lol
 
it actually is - once you killed a couple of partitions. :P
 
@MarcoCeppi have you been starting sending invites? (then I know I'm far down the lsit :P)
 
Not yet, we'll announce when the first batch goes out later today
Sometime between now and 23:59 EDT
 
2:42 PM
@MarcoCeppi aha...
@MarcoCeppi hehe :)
 
be careful, invitations probably were invented by apple
>:D
 
I heard Bill Gates was patented and invented by Apple
 
@MarcoCeppi I am 6 hours before you in time, so I can expect a invite tomorrow if I am in the first batch....
 
most definitely
 
@MarcoCeppi this is out of control
the ironi is too far gone now! :P
I can't connect to my minecraft server! :(
 
2:44 PM
huh. my ISP announced I'm going to get a /48 late this year
(an IPv6 /48 that is)
that's 140,737,488,355,328 ip addresses :)
3
 
@StefanoPalazzo LOL
that's too many! ;)
 
it's crazy, 48 bits out of 128 to each of their customers. there's really no reason to give them more than, say, a million, is there?
like a /24
 
I don't think there's a real reason to give more than a /8
 
not if tcp-enabled nanobots aren't coming soon
 
umm... the whole isp only has a /48... they must be mistaken
 
2:48 PM
Yay... trillions of IP addresses for everyone!
 
unless they mean to say you are getting a private natted /48
 
well, let's think about it
 
Now my net-connected fridge, oven, toaster, and waffle iron can each have their own separate external IP address.
 
how many /48s are there?
1,208,925,819,614,629,174,706,175
I guess that's enough for every isp times their customers. maybe it's not a mistake
 
We'll run out soon enough. I'm sure - just like IPv4 - we'll squander them as quick as we can get them
 
2:50 PM
ah, finally an easy way to manipulate ip-based votings :D
 
@MarcoCeppi can you imagine though how could it would be if everyone on the internet had a real IP address?
 
there aren't that manny... like IPv4, they are broken into different blocks reserved for different things
for instance, there's a whole range just for ip4 compatability addresses
 
Can anyone answer this tweet?
Ubuntu is so slick in the latest beta.But a massive drawback is the 1990s style interface to OpenOffice - how long until that is overhauled?
 
there's no openoffice in oneiric :P
 
@htorque needs renaming to libre
what's the difference between open and libre?
 
2:52 PM
overhauled in what way? I can't stand the retarded new ribbon interface in recent releases of MS Office
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@htorque and that being The Ultimate Overhaul ;-)
 
@psusi I don't mean OO should look like MS Office ... I hate that ribbon too
 
you have to love it every time MS violates their own user interface guidelines
 
@psusi but I really think OO/LO has a really dated user interface...
 
there we are:
> The obsolete RFC 3177 recommended the assignment of a /48 to end consumer sites. This was replaced by RFC 6177, which "recommends giving home sites significantly more than a single /64, but does not recommend that every home site be given a /48 either." /56s are specifically considered.
 
2:54 PM
 
not sure what that means
 
is that so ugly?
 
I think that's pretty ugly yeah :\
it doesn't "quite" look like it should (like Gnome!)
 
I can't believe that with how sexy ubuntu is now, there is no sexy productivity/office suite.
 
2:56 PM
use latex :P
 
↑ libreoffice
 
sweet ride :P
 
@htorque Where'd the system monitor applet come from?
 
@GeorgeEdison indicator-multiload
 
was the IETF smoking crack when they wrote that?
 
2:58 PM
ha! day #28 with 200 rep \o/
 
even if every single gadget and thingamajig has its own IP address, your average home couldn't have more than 1000 addresses used, let alone millions
 
and it is still early >:)
 
@psusi I guess the idea is to not give anybody an excuse to deploy NAT
 
I would think that a /16 would be more than enough to do that
 
also, maybe you can spell dirty words with your IPv6 addresses :)
 
3:00 PM
like a few orders of magnitude more than enough
 
what office suite do Apple Macs run?
 
by default?
none
 
right, fe80:0:0:0:202:b3ff:babe:face
you only need a /32 for that (:
 
@psusi shouldn't that be "ought to be enough for anybody"? ;)
 
famous quotes that were never uttered for $100 alex ;)
 
3:07 PM
yeah i bet there are tons :)
 
Yes! we get a second day of Freddie Mercury rock out on Google
 
even if I gave 10 addresses to every single electronic gadget I own, and in the future, I end up having 10 times as many gadgets, I still wouldn't get close to using a /16
even if there were 5 people in my household all doing that
I wonder when my ISP will wake up and deploy IPv6... probably never since the morons still refuse to enable SSL on their mail server
 
@MarcoCeppi oh, in that case:
 
why would you restrict it though if you don't have to?
just make Ip addresses the abundant commodity they should be
 
3:10 PM
I keep telling them they are putting their customers at risk of having their banking information stolen from their email every time they check it from a public wifi hotspot, but they don't seem to care
@StefanoPalazzo, there's a difference between abundant, and rediculous
65,536 addresses for a home is abundant.... billions is redonculous
 
@psusi you have a silly amount of UUIDs in your namespace as well
and you can choose any namespace you like
 
the whole point of UUIDs is that they are universally unique, and since they are randomly generated, they have to be large
we're talking about addresses that must be allocated here
 
right, what I mean is this: why not?
bits are cheap
 
using 48 when 16 is more than enough seems a waste of 28 bits ;)
 
@TheEvilOne what office suites do most people use on a mac?
 
3:13 PM
@psusi 56 according to the newer spec :)
@htorque totally excellent
 
that's just absurd... I mean really... one house with more addresses than there are grains of sand in the earth?
 
@psusi Well... look on the bright side... when we colonize Mars, we'll be glad we have extra IP addresses to use there.
 
hah the ending is hilarious
 
we won't have any left giving them out at that rate...
 
(Though connections from here to Mars will be a little latent.)
 
3:15 PM
not if they figure out how to communicate using entangled particles
 
remember this is the number of available /48 blocks:
26 mins ago, by Stefano Palazzo
1,208,925,819,614,629,174,706,175
sure, some of them are reserved but how much of a dent does that make with such a large number
if you can't pronounce it, it's enough :)
 
if they give a /48 to every home, then your ISP is going to need like a /64... hrm... I guess that does still leave a lot of /64s
one hexillion? ;)
 
large numbers are very deceptive
they don't get much smaller if you start throwing denominators at them
 
things should be very interesting once they figure out how to communicate using entangled particles... just think... no more latency
 
If I remember right, that's completely impossible :-(
 
3:18 PM
why?
 
it would violate all sorts of laws
 
it does... that's why they are so strange
 
as homer simpson said, "in this house, we obey the laws of thermodynamics!"
 
two particles that seem to exchange information faster than the speed of light.. it's goofy, but they exist... they just need to employ them for telecommunications
well, that and rejigger the laws of physics to explain how it's possible
 
@Greg its between iWork and Microsoft Office for Mac
@Greg for paid full office suites
 
3:23 PM
@psusi I think it's because it's impossible to control the behaviour of the entangled particles
this way, entanglement doesn't violate causality (doesn't allow faster-than-light communication)
 
http://askubuntu.com/questions/60267/skype-doesnt-find-my-audio-input-in-11-04
is this clear enough? so it wont be a dupe of my own question? :)
 
@Alvar seems fine. maybe explain this a in a bit more detail: "I can't adjust one channel I have to change both"
not sure why that matters, or what it means exactly
 
ok
I will show them/u with a screenshot brb
 
you can also remove the "11.04" from the question title
the most used tag will show up first in the title of a google search result
 
@StefanoPalazzo I want to be clear that it's not 10.04
 
3:30 PM
so it's "11.04 - Skype doesn't find my audio input in 11.04"
 
@StefanoPalazzo, if that were the case, then how would they even know they were entangled?
you have to be able to change one and see that the other also changes immediately to know they are entangled
 
gaming.se has titles like "How can I make an extremely bright light?" and "What is gold good for?" :)
 
@StefanoPalazzo fixed...
@StefanoPalazzo true.. but it's still kind of the same title at the last one......
 
@psusi you can just measure both of them and observe that they're doing the same thing
no need to control one of them to prove entanglement
 
I love this LibreOffice UI
user image
5
 
3:40 PM
@StefanoPalazzo, two particles do the same thing all the time... to prove entanglement you'd have to change one to see if the other is the same by happenstance, or because they are entangled
 
jrg
@Greg I love that. OK, how do I get it?
 
@jrg unfortunately its just a mockup... but that was amost a year ago
 
jrg
@Greg ... :(
Oh well.
 
@psusi I'm not sure about this. maybe you can have particles such that you know their behaviour in advance
 
Today I just realised that Ubuntu doesn't really have a good office suite that fits in as well as other applications do
was on the hunt for a better office suite
 
3:42 PM
@Greg I really like Gnumeric (abiword not so much)
 
playing with Ondinas Captcha :)
 
@StefanoPalazzo I'll check it out
 
jrg
Abiword is good if you're just looking for a text-editor thingy.
 
these two (plus a few more appplications) are sometimes referred to as "gnome office"
 
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