Game Development

Gajoo

21:00

so does it mean TheGreateMagic is not working?

Code Assassin

Cheap Trickz yes

Gajoo

can you debug it? check what happens when the code gets inside that while?

Code Assassin

OpenCell Count

was 1

debugging

Gajoo

also check if the surroundingNodes are created currectly?

Code Assassin

lol

it doesn't even go into the while

lolzy

while (currentNode == targetNode)
{

Gajoo

21:03

it should be != :D

Code Assassin

herpderp

Infinite Loop!

Alex M.

@Gajoo has mad dijkstra skillz

Code Assassin

debugging

Gajoo

@AlexM. yeah like writing a code that doesn't work :(

Alex M.

you actually bother looking through a lot of code to see what's wrong when the code isn't yours

you have mad universal skillz

Gajoo

21:06

@AlexM. well as you saw, I got tired of it and implement my own version. salvaging only types and initializers :D

Code Assassin

I'm betting the problem is it stays the same currentNode happens again and again

like what happened in my version

Gajoo

@CodeAssassin it shouldn't, I'm removing the currentNode from openList

John McDonald

@CodeAssassin Interesting... does it work as you type, or more like how Office 2007 "worked" where it would sync local changes every 5 mins?

Alex M.

A Windows based standalone application with following functionalities:

1) QR Code scanning with computer's webcam.
2) Displaying camera's view in main screen.
3) Working also with local files (stored QR codes) when no internet connection available.
4) Displaying detailed info associated with QR code.

Gajoo

though you might need to add neighbor.Visited = true; around line 105

Alex M.

21:09

am I missing something?

there's no need for an active internet connection in any of the cases

Code Assassin

current Node is ALWAYS

at position 1,1

:|

this algorithm is teh shiz

ToddersLegrande

@AlexM. the data has to come from somewhere? I imagine its the internet.

Alex M.

what data?

Gajoo

@CodeAssassin so openCells.remove(currentNode) is not working?

Code Assassin

it would appear so...

Gajoo

21:11

well that's the problem with C#, not mine :D

Code Assassin

wait a minute...

No

When are you setting a currentNode to something?

Alex M.

@CodeAssassin while (!AtDestination) { PickRandomPath(); }

Code Assassin

@AlexM. genius

:_: LOL MUST IMPLEMENT DIJSKTRAS

then that one :P

Alex M.

I'll call it...

Gajoo

Node currentNode = openCells.Min(x => x.Distance);

Code Assassin

21:12

Aha

Alex M.

Blind Man's Graph Traveling Algorithm For Time Challenged Programmers

Code Assassin

yet this is out of the while loop =]

therefore it always the value of 1,1

and will never change.

Gajoo

@CodeAssassin also the last line of the loop

Code Assassin

neighbor.Item1.Distance = currentNode.Distance + neighbor.Item2;

this?

Alex M.

this kinda relates to the problem I have with break;-ing out of loops

Gajoo

21:13

 117:          if (openCells.Size() == 0)
 118:              throw new Excepetion("There is no route to Target Node");
 119:          currentNode = openCells.Min(x => x.Distance);

Alex M.

while (condition) { ... } vs while (true) { if (condition) break; }

Code Assassin

that is not in the while loop

check your braces

if I am not mistaken

Alex M.

the first is like saying "Drive the car until you get home."

Gajoo

@CodeAssassin my bad :(

Code Assassin

^_____^b

Gajoo

21:14

put it inside then

Alex M.

the 2nd is like saying "Drive the car TO INFINITYYYYYYYY unless you get home. Then stop."

Gajoo

@AlexM. can't I drive it beyond infinity?

Alex M.

no, then you'd stop being Gajoo

Code Assassin

Infinity is not a number

Alex M.

you'd overflow to oojaG

Code Assassin

21:15

^

with random chars at the end

Alex M.

and segmentation fault the world

Code Assassin

@Gajoo there is no path to target

Gajoo

@AlexM. I don't mind :D

Code Assassin

SEGFAULT ftw

Oh my

@Gajoo this is why Dijkstra's is impossible.

Gajoo

@CodeAssassin impossible?

Code Assassin

21:16

@Gajoo it was never meant to be implemented for arrays

@Gajoo I am obviously stressing out :_:

Alex M.

we've been dijkstra-ing for the past two hours with no success

we're such noobs lol :(

Code Assassin

@AlexM. 4+ days

Gajoo

check private void CreateSurroundingNodes(), and see if that function is working as it should?

Alex M.

we should just join my vodka addict colleague and consider CS a backup plan

ToddersLegrande

@CodeAssassin challenge accepted

Send me your solution over dropbox :P

Alex M.

21:17

a savior!

Code Assassin

no a leech

Gajoo

@ToddersLegrande lol, if I wanted to debug it, I would have just opened a VS instance :|

Code Assassin

he steels ppls sourcecodes

Alex M.

Sir @ToddersLegrande tell us your name so we may write it down on the Giant Paper of Gods +4.

Code Assassin

@AlexM. don't trust him11111!1111

ToddersLegrande

21:18

lol

Gajoo

but you can start where @CodeAssassin started, with codepaste.net/k5n8dm

Alex M.

@CodeAssassin Silence, novice. Get back to your Fire Arrow practice.

Fire Arrow +5 that is.

ToddersLegrande

@Gajoo I was looking to get rid of the boilerplate XNA code for drawing and whatnot too which isn't in that class... like dummytexture

Gajoo

@ToddersLegrande you can always remove that draw function, it's obviously doing nothing :D

Alex M.

CodeAssassin goes back to practice.

ToddersLegrande

21:19

And his map/array

Need a path to find afterall

Alex M.

ToddersLegrande kills everyone

NOOOOOO! THE NOVICE WAS RIGHT!!!

ToddersLegrande

The solution is just the easiest way to get all of that without me having to waste time putting the pieces together

Alex M.

You will not get away with this @ToddersLegrande

this... is... chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/19/game-development!!!!!!!!

Code Assassin

ToddersLegrande

@AlexM. you've lost your mind

Code Assassin

21:20

:P

Alex M.

ahaha, there's a reward

ToddersLegrande

Oh no. Now everyone knows my last initial! :O

Alex M.

it will overflow to 0 :(

Code Assassin

NOoooooooooooo

STOP THAT MAN.

And bring me back my source!11!11!

ToddersLegrande

And some people who don't know me from the tylerrrr07 days know my first name :O

Alex M.

21:21

yeah, bring the man's crap.

Code Assassin

O:

ToddersLegrande

The worst part is I don't even have the source yet D:

Alex M.

that you stole

Code Assassin

@AlexM. rofl

John McDonald

heh, I just noticed that the starred xbox link isn't down, it's that xbox knows I'm in Canada and instead of forwarding me to xbox.com/en-CA/hub/, it throws a big "Unavailable" at me instead

how dumb is that?

Alex M.

21:22

same for me

Romanians must never know of Xbox One

Gajoo

@ToddersLegrande you mean I should know your first name?

Alex M.

it is a state secret

Code Assassin

You too Gajoo

John McDonald

ToddersLegrande

@Gajoo it's.... Tyler.......

Alex M.

21:22

hey @CodeAssassin

Gajoo

@ToddersLegrande I always thought it was some other nickname :D

ToddersLegrande

lol nah. It's a real name

John McDonald

Like wow

Code Assassin

It has a history. However that history is secret.

Alex M.

wanna start a quest for finding @ToddersLegrande family name?

Code Assassin

21:23

We should all change our names to CodeLegrande

Alex Legrande

Alex M.

we'll hire a haxxor

Code Assassin

^

ToddersLegrande

I think there are at least 3 people (one not present) in chat that know my last name...

Alex M.

who will open up Visual Basic

and write a GUI in it

to track his IP

ToddersLegrande

lol

Alex M.

21:23

heard that @ToddersLegrande ?

Code Assassin

CSIMiami worthy!

Alex M.

we know someone who knows VB!

ToddersLegrande

I'm busting a gut over here lololol

2

Code Assassin

They'll make a whole episode on how we cracked teh case.

Alex M.

@CodeAssassin that

ToddersLegrande

21:24

So does this mean you aren't giving me the source? D:

Code Assassin

I'll give you the source lol - I'm just having fun

ToddersLegrande

:D

It was a good time, I will admit.

Alex M.

I made a QListView!

how cool is that?

Code Assassin

2/10

ToddersLegrande

And now you love Qt?

Best thing since HTML5 maybe?

Alex M.

21:25

nah, it came paired with C++

ToddersLegrande

My Windows XP VM is very upset that I don't have antivirus sofwtare installed...

Alex M.

might study it later on, when I'm done exercising Lisp and Prolog

unless I give Gambas a try

so yeah

it's not a favorite

ToddersLegrande

BREAKING: Actual gameplay shot of Call of Duty: Ghosts. Do not miss! http://i.imgur.com/18LTjdY.jpg

Tweeted by georgeb3dr on May 21, 2013 at 8:20 PM

Code Assassin

ROFL

Dogs of War

Alex M.

first thing I do after getting back home with my desktop: play multiplayer FPS

I'll start with CS 1.6 until I fix my GPU

then, I go back to MW2 and 3

Gajoo

21:29

and I still don't have any server to run my proxy server :| how sad is that?

Code Assassin

@Gajoo points accusatory finger at @ToddersLegrande

Gajoo

@CodeAssassin not really

Alex M.

leaves the room

silently

Code Assassin

really.

Alex M.

what, at lest I tried.

@Gajoo

look, I think I know a solution

here's the plan

you take a knife, and kill your president.

Gajoo

21:31

@AlexM. you can always try again :D

Code Assassin

brb guis

Gajoo

@AlexM. he's going to be changed in less than a month, there is no point in killing him

Alex M.

kill the next one then!

when something goes bad, always kill the president

ToddersLegrande

@AlexM. recently started playing Bioshock Infinite and now I realize I need a new GPU. This 2-3ish year old card just isn't cutting it for them new fangled games

Turned it down on Medium quality and 1600x900 res and I still get a little stutter :(

Gajoo

@AlexM. I still prefer you to retry :D

Alex M.

21:33

@ToddersLegrande I just want to play something more than GTA San Andreas on lowest possible settings

@Gajoo no no, my plan is better

kill. the. president.

one sec, there's someone at the door.

HOLY SHIT IT'S THE FBIALHKFAFJK;AHNFLKAJFHNALFJKHNAFLAFA

Gajoo

and that's how we terminate those who want to kill our president

Code Assassin

need food

Alex M.

me too

Gajoo

@AlexM. I thought we already killed you :(

not me, but the agents...

Alex M.

it wasn't you

it was the FBI

Gajoo

21:41

@AlexM. the agents in disguise :D

Alex M.

yeah, they wanted romanians to blame the US for my assassination

ToddersLegrande

You know what I hate about twitter? Their image service, when you click a link, LOOKS like a light box but is really a separate page. I always end up closing the tab or something instead of going back.

Like everything about the page screams "lightbox" or "popup" to me

So I close it when I'm done

Code Assassin

sounds like

Flawless Design Syndrome

Alex M.

you know what I hate about oDesk?

Code Assassin

no

Alex M.

21:46

whenever I get an interview, two things happen

1) I get a new message notification

2) I get a new interview notification

you can't really have any without the other

however, if you open up the messages, just the message notif goes away

if you open up the interviews, just the interview notif goes away

ToddersLegrande

@CodeAssassin I can has code plox? :P

Alex M.

so I end up going to two pages showing me the same thing

just so I can get rid of them notifications

also the text box on indiedb screwed things badly last time

it parsed [blablablabla] just like [b]

I have no idea how that website is written

I don't even know if it uses jQuery

Code Assassin

@ToddersLegrande busy... but I will

Please...

*wait :P

ToddersLegrande

I CANTTTT

Code Assassin

;_;

okay fine

Alex M.

21:49

you will have to, while @CodeAssassin basks in your suffering

ToddersLegrande

lol

I was joking

about the can't part

mostly just the T

Alex M.

oh, no suffering for @CodeAssassin then

this is from indiedb <script type="text/javascript" src="http://static.indiedb.com/external/min/index.php?g=jquery&3"></script>

really, how can you use jQuery on your website, and still screw it up so badly?

ToddersLegrande

I don't follow

Alex M.

don't you know jQuery is great and does all things?

there's a method called .makeThisSiteSuckLess()

indiedb obviously didn't use it

ToddersLegrande

Ah... I read too much into your statement

I thought you meant they screwed up jQuery or something

Gajoo

21:52

@CodeAssassin so you are still struggling?

ToddersLegrande

but really... they screwed up the site

Alex M.

nope, just their website

I kinda laughed back then though

I just pasted raw text and it came out bolded

it's just plain bad

Code Assassin

@Gajoo indeed

Alex M.

btw, any fans?

Gajoo

@CodeAssassin not me,

Code Assassin

21:53

@Gajoo yes u

Alex M.

no fans, okay :(

you guys should totally play it, and see what a German RPG looks like

mobygames.com/game/windows/gothic

hardest combat system to get used to

but the most satisfying

Gajoo

@AlexM. lol filtered :D

Alex M.

it's Gothic by Piranha Bytes

ToddersLegrande

@AlexM. The most satisfying control system once you've gotten used to it is QWOP.

Alex M.

I love that game, and marked my childhood

ToddersLegrande

21:57

And that's only because you are a boss if you can get used to it

Alex M.

in fact, if it weren't for its open source nature (except for the engine itself), I would've probably not liked programming now

making a MOD for it consists in editing the actual code

but it's neatly organized, and you can add new characters + dialogues + quests easily

@ToddersLegrande you can't get used to QWOP :D

ToddersLegrande

So then you agree. :P

If you got used to QWOP's controls you would be SOOOOOOOOOOOO satisfied :D

Alex M.

should I say it has the most satisfying character development too?

armors are so rare and important that when you get a new one it's like a huge achievement

you always see NPCs around you that are better equipped than you

and there's no way for you to get there unless you work really hard

they also define your ranks in guilds, so this makes them even more important

finally, the game is very punishing for everyone, but especially for beginners

even the first enemy you meet can kill you in two hits

which fits the story and the surrounding world

Gothic 1 & 2 were never friendly with the player

Gothic 3 changed a bit, to be more mainstream

they're an amazing experience really

it's the only game that made me want to kill NPCs to get revenge for the trouble they caused me

John McDonald

But buggy

Alex M.

the third?

John McDonald

22:03

#3 was especially bad for bugs

Alex M.

definitely was at release, almost unplayable

but with the latest community patch is great

John McDonald

yeah...

Alex M.

Gothic 1 at 1.08 is perfectly playable

John McDonald

@AlexM. I should probably install that, if I ever install the game again

Alex M.

been playing it since I was in 6th grade

no bugs whatsoever

get it on GoG.com, it's already patched

John McDonald

22:05

Well... if I already own the box, I'm not exactly going to re-buy the game

Alex M.

ah, okay then

have I mentioned it has a living world that actually looks like one?

John McDonald

heh, probably the last game I bought in a box

Alex M.

Skyrim is a piece of crap from this aspect

actually, Bethesda never really managed to achieve that

Morrowind was Gothic 1's main competition

then there is the cast of important characters, that show up throughout the whole series

the characters kind of define the games really

and the awesome voice acting

which fit the characters really well

I first saw it at a colleague in primary school

he showed me how he killed everyone in the colony

and said he felt awesome now that he was able to kill everyone

lol

/memories

Alex M.

22:23

am I the only one here who likes canned beans? :D

especially with meat

I like homemade more but it's been a while since I had the chance to eat some :(

I should make some when I get home

got an actual oven there

Code Assassin

@AlexM. too much canned ham

Alex M.

canned ham is okay-ish

ToddersLegrande

22:45

BOOOOOOOOOOM

Code Assassin

@ToddersLegrande yay :D

We all know what this means for you gajoo...

You are now wanted

prepares to make wanted poster for gajoo

Gajoo

@CodeAssassin why?

Code Assassin

@Gajoo for disturbing the peace and giving out false information

Gajoo

@ToddersLegrande so you wrote your won version?

or tried debugging mine?

Code Assassin

Sir you are under arrest. You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will and can be used against you.

Gajoo

22:50

@CodeAssassin I'm outa here

(┛ò__ó)┛彡┻━┻

Code Assassin

Fleeing is a crime.

You cannot hide from the po po.

We are everywhere.

Gajoo

@CodeAssassin what about sleeping?

Code Assassin

@Gajoo .... No. I guess you are in the clear. As you were.

ToddersLegrande

@Gajoo I didn't work with yours

Gajoo

@ToddersLegrande I guess I've got to debug mine then , to prove my innocence :D

Code Assassin

22:54

@Gajoo That won't be needed sir. Touching any evidence before the trial is prohibited. You can call your attorney if you would like.

Gajoo

well, it can wait till tomorrow, good night tell then.

Code Assassin

Yes it can.

Goodnight.

The jury will be the Game Dev Chat room and I will be Supreme Judge

Alex M.

@ToddersLegrande 's screenshot reminded me of a book on game AI I read

where Bresenham's line algorithm was used to make the path from point A to point B look smoother

and avoid "fake" movement

like going in a straight line until you're three blocks away from the target, then suddenly turn towards it

instead of going straight to it

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