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17:00
aaaaaaaand I'm done with work
adios
I'm supposed to study differential calculus at the moment
"A new generation of games, entertainent, and TV"
:O
could it be the next next next next gen? :O
:O
You might be right :O
Seriously. Alternate setting for a GTA2 styled game. :P
I've been thinking post-apoc and mutants. But not a lot of free roaming vehicles to steal then.
17:06
cyberpunk GTA
"Ultimate all in one home entertainment system"
GTA2 as in the top down game or do you mean a later 3d version of the GTA series?
"Xbox One"
Talk about confusing names
@BenjaminDangerJohnson Top-down one.
17:07
GTA 3 was optionally top-down too I've heard.
First impression - it looks huge
it's a pretty ugly console
pic please
@ToddersLegrande That's what she said...
omg pics
17:09
@William'MindWorX'Mariager yes it is.
user4704
dumbest
user4704
name
user4704
ever
@JoshPetrie RIGHT???
eh, it's better an XboX 720
17:09
And people thought "Wii U" would confuse people
user4704
I don't think it's better than Xbox 720.
but that is kind of what happens you brand a name
user4704
There already is a colliquial Xbox one.
user4704
It's the first damn Xbox.
canonical should sue them
17:10
I mean the first time it sounds cool, but then it usually gets shittier
@JoshPetrie Very true, that can cause some confusions
user4704
Apple tried the same thing with "new iPad" and it never stuck. Everybody called it the iPad 3.
Stuart Ashen ‏@ashens 3m
OH GOD: "ALL IN ONE", the phrase of the beast
Stuart Ashen ‏@ashens 2m
"Cloud powered"? Where do I get clouds to run it? I tried catching one in a net once but it didn't work out
Stuart Ashen ‏@ashens 3m
So you're calling the third Xbox "Xbox One"? Great work, retards!
haha, I love the guy
user4704
Yea, I don't understand the desire to have a centralized media hub device thing like that. I want a console to play console games.
I think the only console that had a cool name with a number in it was N64
Stuart Ashen ‏@ashens 22s
Great, the interface is still full of ads. Because I love that when I've paid for a Live subscription
17:11
@JoshPetrie it might just depend on the person. I use my Xbox as an entertainment device already
@ToddersLegrande It is a pretty convenient media device, I just hate the Xbox Live requirements for almost everything
wait, that is what a single console looks like?
I thought it was two next to each other
@AlexM. yeah
that is really bad looking
17:13
It's a BEAST\
it looks
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@ToddersLegrande I agree that that issue is very much a personal taste thing.
user4704
For me, one of my main arguments is that I have a PS3 and a 360 in my house. They both want to be The One device for all my media consumption, but of course they never could be.
hey guys
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So I just ignore those features, and any feature a product has that I know I will ignore is a negative for me. I prefer a lack of cruft.
17:14
ugly
And Skype is on the Xbox One
No surprise really
Skype! OMG Really!
user4704
Does this thing even play video games?
getting a bit off topic with the whole point of a gaming console
17:15
It's not about games anymore :p
somebody at Microsoft really likes squares
I understand linking other things together to make it similar, but I prefer simpler things
Thank god. Now I can track my fantasy basketball league on the new Xbox One. It's a dream come true!
@AlexM. heh, since like.. always? Windows 3.1?
17:17
Yeah this is way too complex for me
@JohnMcDonald I think it wasn't that obvious until WP7's tiles :D
you guys should thank Sony
if it weren't for them
I can't help but feel like they wouldn't fix the problems I want just because of all the other crap on the console
WP7 followed by Win8
Microsoft would be doing that "console does not run used games" thing
I could actually get over that
I don't really buy used games
I'm way too paranoid about whether or not they still work.
17:18
Sony basically waited for Microsoft to announce the used game thing, and then they announced that the new PS won't be banning used games
Microsoft soon came with another announcement saying they won't be doing it either
that's my favorite marketing technique
when the competition messes something up
be sure to show people you don't do the same thing
I can't wait to see the evolution of commericals with this
"WATCH FOX" Really loud.
they could have called it Microsoft Entertainment Cube
yeah I wonder if the content of what you are watching will mess with the voice commands
Microsoft is going to know about the porn you watch :O
I can imagine a commercial saying, "lock all channels but this one"
17:20
lmfao
@ToddersLegrande I'm cool with that :D
@ToddersLegrande As long as the trending section is accurate I'm good with that
user4704
hah, so it has a bluray drive
user4704
so now sony is making money off of the xbox. i'd call that a win for them
17:22
@JoshPetrie As funny as it is I don't know if MS had much of a choice :(
user4704
True.
yup, br is necessary for the thing to be an ALL IN ONE
I just caught a terrifying glimpse of the future now that I realize this new xbox will have the kinect camera, voice commands, and the ability to watch porn.
Over 40 design innovations on the controller!
Oh boy
but you know
the shape is kinda right
it is Xbox for a reason
styling hates me :(
17:25
@ToddersLegrande I'm sure they are minor things like the grip added to the thumb sticks
Still MS. Cannot forgive them for purposefully releasing buggy hardware so they could get to market first. The prevalence of the RROD phenomenon was inexcusable.
"Xbox One threads should all be moved here from /v/ they haven't mentioned videogames and it's almost half an hour in"
lolz
EA guy is talking about sports games / showing a video of athletes talking right now
it must be more than half an hour in
Yeah I turned off the stream
I'll check back in an hour to see if they mention games
it sounds like they are going to talk about the media center stuff for quite a while
user4704
17:37
sports games, huh
user4704
and they look horrid
user4704
that's a pretty unimpressive showing so far
the most impressive stuff in next gen shows to me is things like Geometry Wars 2 or Super Stardust HD.
hey guys, could someone explain to me how I can achieve lighting like in this game: youtube.com/watch?v=8xDJaViCBLc ?
or what it's called
It looks like there is just a directional light at the camera
and the background is set a good distance away from the platforms
that's my guess, but it requires you design the game in 3D not 2D
user4704
17:42
You could fake it by setting light intensity the highest at the center tile and doing a radial falloff
Promising 15 exlusives in the first year, 8 of which are brand new franchises. Interesting.
user4704
(but i only glanced at the video)
original titles will be a nice change
I'm tired of seeing Gears of War and Halo
ah okay. I thought it was 2d implemented, It's from the same guy who is making the game chroma. And i beleive that's fully 2d too.
Well that is my approach
I am sure you could do it in 2D as well
17:43
and i get the radial falloff thing, but then how does the shading work
user4704
shading of characters?
the shadow might even just be part of the texture
user4704
I didn't see if they were, but you could do the same thing
user4704
again, only glanced
user4704
still watching this xbox one trainwreck
user4704
17:44
oh look, halo
i Don't think the shading is part of the texture...
and josh what do you mean with "the same thing" ?
I thought halo 3 was supposed to be the last
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@user1103457 you can do the same 2D radial falloff to in-motion characters, if you were talking about that
wait, Halo tv series?
that is just kinda dumb
user4704
17:47
They are apparently really pushing "interactive TV"
but with the radial falloff, it sounds more like a lightmask to me, But that doesn't involve shadows right?
I don't know if Halo TV series is dumb...
yeah I'm not really on board with it
Maybe. It all depends :P
I'm sure it could work, but I like being given creative freedom over what the world is like
user4704
17:48
Yeah you could do all the "3D" math to project shadows against the background easily enough on your own, as well
I guess they can do it given all the books that have spawned off the franchise
but I'd rather they didn't
and just invest the money in a new game
okay, but i really am a noob to 3d stuff, so what kind of shading would that be? what is it called?
These people really want me play fantasy football
XBOX ONE
WHERE IS THE 720
EVERYTHING IS A LIE
I WAS SHAMMED.
Inb4 next version of Windows is Windows One
17:54
exclusively first?
that doesn't sound exclusive
I'm calling it: the XBOX One will be a flop :P
bold statement is italic
I'm sure it will be fine
bold statement is italic
just not as popular as they want it to be
Inb4 Jimmy
17:55
:(
user4704
lol at sony stock
Sony sucks...
Most of their days in the market are downers
It's like... what 21 bucks a share or something?
user4704
yes but look at their graph today :P
17:56
lol
haha
ROFL
Went from 79
to 60 cents
LMAO
investing would actually be pretty smart right now
I mean with the new consoles getting ready to launch
@BenjaminDangerJohnson I have SNE :3
user4704
dude, lean features
user4704
17:58
totally innovative
user4704
never seen that shit before in my LIFE
What is LEAN FEATURES
Explain.
And fish that move out of the way. WHAT. mind blown
they're features that are lean
hurray, dogs, parkour, fish ai. Just what I always wanted
17:58
I dont...
impossible
at least it looks pretty nice
Time to unveil my new game console.
user4704
Who really wants their shooters to be "emotionally engaging" anyway? I just want to shoot stuff.
You all know it's the next big thing
Sometimes I just want to cry while I kill others. Maybe its a guy thing.
17:59
I like how they call character customization innovative to online multiplayer
@BenjaminDangerJohnson Lies
RPG and.. MMO's.
I'd love to see a realistic war FPS
you know, one that really simulates war
Mostly RPG's
I'm pretty sure I customized my characters way back in Diablo 2
and makes you not want to play it anymore
18:00
@BenjaminDangerJohnson Which was offline
granted it was on Dialup
Online + Offline
I'm not going to lie, the game looks pretty good, but I am super bothered about how innovative they claim it is
The only major improvement I see is in graphics
18:04
DirectX 90
That being said, no matter how much they lie about the innovations, if they show a Left 4 Dead 3 I am totally in
And its over
user4704
Well that brightened up my day. Hilarious!
Yeah I'm pretty sure they only way I would get that console is if they release Left 4 Dead 3 on it.
Also I guess it would depend on developer support
L4D3 with... who? the same characters?
Maybe 8 players :D
(no.. that takes the fun factor away)
18:08
It doesn't matter who the characters are
they story isn't really about them
YES IT DOES
They are just kind of there for comic relife
Fan_Boy_Mode[ON]
@BenjaminDangerJohnson I agree with that
To me it's more about seeing how a group is trying to handle an impossible situation
@BenjaminDangerJohnson That's with most Zombie Horror Games
18:09
as far as I am concerned they all die at the end
@BenjaminDangerJohnson xD
and any of the next games are about another group
like the Walking Dead
Man that game made me cry :-(
the only game
I guess they could find remnants of the others if you wanted to link it together, but I am totally fine with them just dissapearing.
@CodeAssassin Haven't played it since it is made by TellTale, but I heard it was actually pretty good
@BenjaminDangerJohnson You should play it
all 5 episodes
18:11
Yeah I'm going to torrent it eventually
right now I am playing Patrician 4
so maybe after that
I find L4D boring. No danger. Low on health, no zombies. High on health, lots of zombies. My first game was on XBox 360 L4D2. Played hardest unlocked when you first boot. Died first time because I didn't know how to get into the car I had just fuelled, and there's an event where an impossible number of zombies appear to force you into the car.
Quit, never went back.
ah, I really enjoy it for the team work required
@BenjaminDangerJohnson same
Although I met this one player
honestly I am a huge fan of any game that requires you to work effectively with a team
18:15
who could take on the whole pack of zombies
BY HIMSELF
Never got caught by smokers
like Team Fortress 2
never got charged
@BenjaminDangerJohnson YUS
@CodeAssassin Yeah there are some people who are crazy good, but that is usually not what you will find in random match making
@BenjaminDangerJohnson Best Strategy for me:
If low on health
get in a corner
switch to meele. Start swinging.
@AlexM. how is QT going?
okay I guess
I need to math atm
18:18
didn't they put in a cool down timer to prevent that?
@AlexM. That is silly, no one uses math in real programming
well, tell that to my college
Phone Number please.
:P
one sec
+40 264 405300, int. 5240
or +40 264 405327 for the dean
18:20
are you applying to his school or something?
what?
@BenjaminDangerJohnson LOL
well, tell that to my college
just seems weird to ask for the phone number
Phone Number please.
:P
You don't get the joke :-(
WHY DOESNT ANYONE GET MY JOKES
18:21
cries
the number was for @BenjaminDangerJohnson to tell the college
your comedy is invalid here
about his opinion
on math
ah, I suppose I could do that, but as a programmer I am pretty lazy
/excuses
18:23
is that an excuse?
no, it's a closing tag for yours
anyway
can't bypass the test
so cya later
after a week working with xetex I guess it's safe to say "people only use latex, since they don't know a better alternative. not because it's something really good"
I honestly have no idea what latex is
it looks like some sort of text formatting thing?
it's a means of typesetting stuff, with heavy support for mathematics
TeX is the original tool
LaTeX is supposed to be easier
pronounced "Tech" and "Lay-Tech"
kind of like html, but for rigorous typesetting
18:31
oh, weird, I thought it was pronounced like the material
I would have thought so too, but I've been exposed to it a lot in grad school
I guess it is to avoid the connotation with latex allergies
hehehe
@almo the mathematics support is really good, but everything else is just pure rubbish.
any excel wizzes here?
18:43
not really a wiz but I used to manage doing what I wanted to do
well I'll ask :)
I have a column of numbers
next to that are three columns with properties that I mark with a "*" or not.
I'd like the sum of the numbers in the first column, excluding any that have a * in column 1
or column 2, or whatever.
I feel like an if in a forumula could do it somehow, but I'm not really sure
or do I have to go to VBA for this
VBA not a problem for me, just would like to avoid it if I can
bah, math isn't working
it's only ~5% of the final grade anyway
I've yet to try LaTeX
I guess I would have used an extra column, with this formula: if(contains(a1,"*") or contains(a2,"*") ;a3;0)
all that I know about it is that it's been invented by Donald Knuth
and was more or less his response to the fact that there were no good enough formatting languages for him to write his stuff
oh right Gajoo
18:48
and sum up that extra comlumn
literate programming is also dependent on LaTeX
that makes sense thanks
@Almo I'm pretty sure the syntax is buggy, it's only a psudo code
yup I get the idea though
@AlexM. the problem as simple as "MS Office is too easy to use"
18:50
I don't think there was any serious MS Office back then
since the basic features are easy to use, no one even tries to use expert tools (which give almost same power as the latex)
@AlexM. well I'm talking about those who still prefer to use latex over office
there were no good formatting tools when he released LaTeX
ooh, alright
though it's a lot easier to write a LaTeX parser to embed LaTeX stuff in a web page
than it is to write a .doc parser
LOL, I love their cloud icons (look at top left word app)
@AlexM. office can directly produce .html files.
alrighty, I get the point
it's not like LaTeX is incredibly popular
while Knuth's literate programming was a great concept, it never really met any huge popularity, mainly because it became a burden for the programmer
I haven't used it, but I have heard descriptions of how it can be used, and it kicks ass in its sphere of usefulness. Again that is mainly because of my contact with real scientific paper publication.
18:54
LaTeX didn't ease the job that much
@AlexM. but it is, and that's my problem. every thinks it's cool to write stuff in latex, while it's not :(
I've yet to see someone push LaTeX down my throat (I don't mathematics)
have to brag about my fellow team member who was willing to start 3D learning modeling just so he can help with the game :D
he's doing a better job every time he gets a new task
user4704
LaTeX is fun.
user4704
I did a lot of my math homework using it.
@JoshPetrie it's like saying assembly is fun, when you have C# in hand :|
18:57
hey, assembly really is fun
I used to love mathematica for homework, I wish I had it in highschool.
oh yeah, we're forced to attend this practical exam for differential calculus in Maple
why they didn't use Sage is beyond me
Sage is free, open source, and completely in Python, which the students were taught one semester before

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