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Stephane Hockenhull

00:34

Got a case of RTFM ....

Sie

00:50

Where?

Stephane Hockenhull

The "C++ include guard not working." question

Sie

01:07

The Mattbat999

01:37

@BlueBug but you know, when your budget for a game is like mine ($0), you gotta make that stuff OR settle with less than best graphics :P

@BlueBug looks kinda funny, but cool!

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Shaun Wild

09:16

Might give unity another shot now I actually have the money to buy assets

user92578

09:37

CubeMap(const CubeMap& other){
	std::abort();
	// NO FUCKING AROUND ALRIGHT?!?!
}

user92578

hahahahaha

user92578

from this question

nwp

That person has some misunderstandings about C++.

Also some anger issues apparently.

user92578

yup

user92578

"can't pass arrays to functions"

user92578

09:43

tbh 6 properly named parameters would be my choice

nwp

I stopped reading after the isnull thing.

"If you would use C++ arrays instead of C arrays you could pass them to functions just fine."

user92578

bool isnull = true; //By default, it is null.

user92578

lol wtf

user92578

he is trying to prevent the constructor from being called again?

user92578

wait is reinstantiating a thing?

Shaun Wild

09:46

bool

bool test

Sorry just experimenting hehe

I canny remember codeblocks

user92578

multiple lines show a button that says "fixed font"

Shaun Wild

Oh ye, I remember

I'm confusing Markdown

William Mariager

10:41

C++ is bad in the wrong hands. :P

nwp

11:06

@Tyyppi_77 Not the way he thinks. Placement new exists.

But the if (!isnull) can never trigger because the constructor always sets isnull to true.

user92578

yup

nwp

@WilliamMariager There are not many things that are good in the wrong hands.

William Mariager

Well, some things lends themselves very much to abuse. Like C/C++ preprocessor macros.

nwp

Apparently the term "coroutine" is not dead.

user92578

huh?

nwp

11:23

I thought "coroutine" along with "subroutine" and some other terms all disappeared in favor of "function", but it appears not so.

user92578

Coroutines are a Unity technique

user92578

They run on a separate thread and allow for some easy "blocking" implementations

Kevin van der Velden

@Tyyppi_77 they're not specifically a unity technique, they're general

user92578

I.e. you can like ask it to wait 5 seconds before continuing execution

Kevin van der Velden

And have specific definitions =p

nwp

11:24

Ah, right, they did want to add that to C++ too.

Kevin van der Velden

Which are not the same as functions

nwp

I remember some fighting about stackless vs stackful coroutines now. Never mind, I was just confused.

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Sie

12:45

@ShaunWild Have you played with GoDot much at all? I like it but the only thing I'm not fan of is the way they handle prefabs. Basically, you use scenes as a kind of prefab.

user92578

That actually seems very clever

user92578

Really cool that you can just easily make a part of a scene its own thing that can be replicated

Sie

Ya. It's supposed to be somewhat cleaner in a sense.

user92578

Also AFAIK Unity still can't nest prefabs, and with a scene tree system you definitely can

Sie

What do you mean by nesting?

user92578

12:52

An element having children

Almo

15:08

yeah prefabs can't have prefabs in them

they want to fix that, but apparently is some kind of weird fucking nightmare

Pikalek

I'm not familiar with prefabs, but abstractly, anytime you let a data structure of any kind collect itself, you open the door to a bunch of edge cases.

That's how it starts. Next thing you know, you're coding in LISP & muttering things about monads.

Almo

hahaha

Pikalek

15:38

@DᴀʀᴛʜVᴀᴅᴇʀ yo - do you have any strong opinions about the recent crop of laptop / tablet hybrid in terms of Wacom tablet replacement / substitutes?

DᴀʀᴛʜVᴀᴅᴇʀ

@Pikalek last Wacom I purchased was a Cintiq and I use it with my iMac on it's secondary thunderbolt port. I did notice some newer models were coming out but I couldn't justify dropping almost 2 grand on something I dont need to replace.

Pikalek

I've never owned a drawing tablet, but I used the stuff at Uni back in the day (circa 00). I'm at best, an art dabbler. Right now, I'm possibly in the market for a laptop & noticed a few items that are trying to be both a laptop & a wacom level device. But sometimes that means doing neither well...

On the plus side, it would be less gear to lug around & might open some options in terms of what I can do away from home. On the down side, they seem extra expensive & I can't return or sell the drawing tablet parts if they're not stand alone.

I was just wondering what folks in the graphics design world might think of them in general.

DᴀʀᴛʜVᴀᴅᴇʀ

it does take some time getting used to. If you're looking for one I'd get a smaller version that isnt a monitor and use it to replace part of your mouse skills. Best Buy has a good entry level one and that's the Wacom - Intuos Bluetooth Creative Pen Tablet (Small) - Black.

you still end up using your mouse but I find if you can learn to just use the pen it will help the transition to a screen

Pikalek

15:57

I was weighing the merits of something like the Dell XPS 15 2-in-1 against Cintiq Pro 13 or 16.

Which level Cintiq do you use?

DᴀʀᴛʜVᴀᴅᴇʀ

if I recall it's the 12wx

Pikalek

Has the size or color gamut ever been a barrier for you?

DᴀʀᴛʜVᴀᴅᴇʀ

no never had an issue but I used x-rite

Pikalek

Good to know. Thanks for your input!

DᴀʀᴛʜVᴀᴅᴇʀ

16:12

anytime

Pikalek

@DᴀʀᴛʜVᴀᴅᴇʀ And, if I may suggest sir, maybe relocate those thermal vents closer to one of those shooty things.

DᴀʀᴛʜVᴀᴅᴇʀ

@Pikalek huh?

Pikalek

@DᴀʀᴛʜVᴀᴅᴇʀ place the starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Thermal_exhaust_port inside the dish for the starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Superlaser/Legends

DᴀʀᴛʜVᴀᴅᴇʀ

ha ha, totally flew into the exhaust port and I missed it

Pikalek

lol

DMGregory

16:35

@Almo Nested prefabs are apparently coming, at long last, in version 2018.3 :D

@Pikalek On the drawing tablet / laptop front, I've gotten a lot of mileage out of my Surface.

The NTrig digitizer is not as well supported as Wacom stuff (I sometimes have to juggle drivers/settings a bit to convince some software to read the pen pressure), and the eraser is awful, but the combination of an i7 laptop in a tablet form factor I can draw on has been pretty amazing. I rarely use another device outside of my office.

The Mattbat999

16:51

Hello!

Hello?

Almo

@DMGregory wow

Sie

17:55

Been playing with GoDot a little bit. I actually like how the script editor is built-in to the editor.